Sweet, we know it exists. I'd be nice if HTC told us when to expect it. Any idea?
They won't officially say when, until they are ready to deliver it, except in very general terms like 3Q 2112 2012...
Edit** Might be 100 years...
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They won't officially say when, until they are ready to deliver it, except in very general terms like 3Q 2112...
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Damn 100 years from now :/
it'll most likely make it's debut in quad-core phones around sep/oct+ and if it comes to the rezound(may not though) it won't happen until 2013.
I say we'll see Sense 4.0 officially the same time we see ICS officially, which is probably late spring, early summer.
I don't know if we are getting sense 4.0, that might only be reserved for s4 processors and tegra 3
I'm living on a yellow submarine
I forsee Sense 3.6 ontop of 4.0.1. HTC's response " Got One X?"
Don't we have a 4.0.3 leak already?
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Don't we have a 4.0.3 leak already?
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Yeah we do. Just saying it would be pretty funny if HTC did that lololol. 3.6 ontop of 4.0.1. If that happens we know the T in HTC stands for troll.
Why is it on HTC's website that the one x has a dual s4 processor 1.5 GHz and not a tegra 3
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because, in america, it's being released as a dual 1.5 instead of the quad..don't ask me why lol
Cause Tegra 3 isn't LTE compatible.
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because, in america, it's being released as a dual 1.5 instead of the quad..don't ask me why lol
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Saw that a little while ago. That's only going to accelerate the bad attitude towards HTC that's been building lately. So much for their flagship phones in 2012 promise, huh?
That's good for my psyche though. My jealousy meter pegged at 0 once I heard that. Not to mention ATT (I've had no real issues with them, but I've always worked out in the sticks where only E is available).
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Saw that a little while ago. That's only going to accelerate the bad attitude towards HTC that's been building lately. So much for their flagship phones in 2012 promise, huh?
That's good for my psyche though. My jealousy meter pegged at 0 once I heard that. Not to mention ATT (I've had no real issues with them, but I've always worked out in the sticks where only E is available).
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Not HTC's fault that Nvidia couldn't deliver LTE compatibility. If you're going to bash on HTC.. Why not get a different brand of phone? That's the wonders of Android! Choices! TBH we won't even need quadcore on our devices.. It's a huge unecessary hardware bump used to cover up crappy coding that Google still hasn't fixed. It's just the nature of the beast know as Android. The dualcore coming up in the one X blows away our dualcore in benches. But for everyday performance probably no difference. I'm going to just post this http://www.anandtech.com/show/5559/...mance-preview-msm8960-adreno-225-benchmarks/2 so your jealousy meter will go back up .
im not too bright when it comes to understanding processors...
so the American version of the one x has a Qualcomm's S4 Krait processor (dual core 2x) but the global version has a Tegra 3 processor (quad core 4x)?
how much of a difference is between the two?
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im not too bright when it comes to understanding processors...
so the American version of the one x has a Qualcomm's S4 Krait processor (dual core 2x) but the global version has a Tegra 3 processor (quad core 4x)?
how much of a difference is between the two?
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For everyday usage you won't notice a damn difference between the two. At this point I feel that all dual core phones are unecessary. There's just nothing in the market that really challenges the current devices on the market. All I can really see is use quadcore bench, flex epeen at smartphone benches = win? If you're talking about performance differences don't even sweat. I'm sure there will be better 3D performance on the s4 and tegra 3, but original point, nothing on the market to challenge our hardware. If you're talking about physical architecural differences in each processor, check out the wikis for each perspective processor.
honestly, i don't even care. those new phones, from the start, i KNEW were going to be for ATT or Tmo..look at the design, it's just like HTC's stuff on those carriers anyway..verizon's HTC stuff looks much different.
either way, i'm not upset in having the rezound, because honestly, it's perfect. i highly doubt any of that stuff is that much of a big step up from the rezound, so i'm def not feeling any buyers remorse lol
True that. We have the best hardware. Still....I had a rezound....took it back. Got a gnex...then ditched it for a rezound. I think this is the perfect phone. Its sturdy, and has what I want. Beats, great camera, and it has good radios...
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im not too bright when it comes to understanding processors...
so the American version of the one x has a Qualcomm's S4 Krait processor (dual core 2x) but the global version has a Tegra 3 processor (quad core 4x)?
how much of a difference is between the two?
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I think i read something on either Phandroid or AndroidCentral when the S4 was announced that it actually out-benched the Tegra. If nothing else, it was close.
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I think i read something on either Phandroid or AndroidCentral when the S4 was announced that it actually out-benched the Tegra. If nothing else, it was close.
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Hence the link that Zets just linked a few posts up. The S4 chip (which I was initially hoping the Rezound was going to be released with) is pretty bad ass and is some competition with that Quad from Invidia. I am just wondering what the power consumption would be like with the Nvidia (Quad plus one) and the Dual of the S4 chip. Curious how this will play out...
All in all, just as others have stated, these newer phones have a marginal increase in horsepower compared to the Rezound and that's pretty much it besides being released with Sense 4.0. I'll sit back and enjoy my Rez for a bit longer than I expected and happy to do so.
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So us AT&T guys and gals what will you do with your beloved SGS2 when the SGS3 arrives? I mean we are hearing 12 Mpx camera and quad core with possible 4.5 inch screen
well well, MWC is the announcement like I stated earlier.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/28/quad-core-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-to-be-unveiled-at-mwc-2012/
When is the SGS3 being released? My guess is not for quite a while since the GS2 is so popular with all the carriers. For me it doesn't matter as this phone is more than fast enough. And I judge fast by experiencing no lag when opening apps.
A multi core processor, like those in a desktop, really only make a difference in apps that can utilize all cores. I may be wrong but I'm guessing it might be a bit before most apps will.
Besides the SGS2 screen is about as big as I would go on a phone display. 4.5" is getting closer to a small tablet. Also for me, I rarely use the phone's camera for pictures that matter so it doesn't matter much for me.
Sorry, that was one downer of a post. I must still be bitter after my Broncos loss yesterday.
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From an xda/dev community perspective i don't think it'll be affected to much. Look at the GSII predecessor, I9000/captivate. Those forums are still going strong with plenty of devs. The captivate already has Ics running pretty smoothly with CM9 alpha! By the time the GSIII comes out, our phones will have some amazing roms with little to no issues(we already have a few).
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I had an iPhone 3g from January 2008 until September 2011. Now I have this phone. Going back to my 3g gave me a very slow experience.
If I can use another phone, and come back to the SGSII and if feels slow, then I'll upgrade.
In other words, ill be here awhile B)
looks like SGS3 is coming Q1 of 2012
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looks like SGS3 is coming Q1 of 2012
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Source please?
Assuming my SGS2 is still running fine I won't do anything when the next one comes out. If it ain't broke don't fix it . I was on an iPhone 3g before this, main reason I upgraded was because my iPhone was so laggy I could barely use it. (well that and I was sick of iOS)
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Source please?
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Every year in February the Galaxy S is released and usually US version arrives in August /Sept
The SGSIII will be so revolutionary and desirable that upon its release it will immediately render all its predecessors inoperable.
I hate these speculative threads.
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The SGSIII will be so revolutionary and desirable that upon its release it will immediately render all its predecessors inoperable.
I hate these speculative threads.
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No way are they gonna release sgs3 q1 2012. I read somewhere, can't remember where, that the a15 processor they are releasing with the sgs3 won't even be ready till q3 2012, which means it'll probably be around the end of summer 2012.
From what i can make out of the screen shot it says it has 2gb RAM, 12 mp camera, 2 ghz exynos 5250, and a 4.6 in HD Super AMOLED + display... I may marry this damn phone.
heres a lil teaser... lol http://www.techradar.com/images/zoom/samsung-galaxy-s3-1033039/index1 and heres a piece on the Exynos that'll be in the gs3... http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-to-be-powered-by-2ghz-dual-core-chip-1044595 WAIT!! HOLD THE PHONES!!! QUAD CORE BABY!!! (which would make sense considering HTC already announced a wuad core device) http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...alaxy-s3-to-be-quad-core-mind-blower--1042710
Sales of the GS2 are doing to well to warrant a release of a new model in February especially with the recent release of the skyrocket. The only speculation I've seen from any site is second half of next year. I doubt it will have quad core as well as they have much faster dual core up their sleeves. i think quad core is going to be overkill until they can milk the dual core architecture
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Sales of the GS2 are doing to well to warrant a release of a new model in February especially with the recent release of the skyrocket. The only speculation I've seen from any site is second half of next year. I doubt it will have quad core as well as they have much faster dual core up their sleeves. i think quad core is going to be overkill until they can milk the dual core architecture
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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Exactly! Also if you follow the release of the galaxy line its always Feb internationally and august summer
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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Besides we have to realize by February the gs2 will be a year old international version
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htc is releasing a phone jaunary/february 2012, the HTC Ville, which will be quad core, theres no way samsung is gonna allow their flagship to go out spec'd, a dual core qualcomm to an exynos is one thing, BUT, if samsung does go dual core, i dont care how fast their dual core exynos is, it wont be faster then a quad core processor. Period. and they already have the exynos 4412 which is quad core. heres an article on it, unlike a lot of xda members, I research and dont just talk out of my opinionated ass. http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-rumored-to-use-quad-core-exynos-4412-34170/
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A few mistakes i think. Correct me if im wrong
1. The HTC Edge is the phone think youre refering to as the ville is reported to be a dual core. I have not seen anything suggesting that the Edge will come out sooner than End Q1/ Early Q2 which is why i jumped on the GS2
2. I thought the GS2 was initially released in April not February.
3. Im not familiar with android and its apps coding but ive have indeed done searching to see if it could actually take advantage of quad core. I found little info but what i did find suggested it that it currently doesnt really stress dual core phone enough to suggest much of an improvement jumping to quad core. Developers could probably shed light on this and i would love their feed back. Ive been meaning to make a thread on this.
4. You are right a quad core will beat a dual core but only in an enviornment that would take advantage of 4 threads. If these android device are not going to really use the 2 extra threads then mhz and cache are going tdo be the things to improve on. I dont want quad corw if its going drain the **** out of my battery for minimal peformance gains.
Samsung is claiming that thier 2ghz 5250 is twice as fast as their 1.5ghz dual A9 core offerings which sounds like more power than these phone are going to use. Unless these higher res screen are ggoing to make that big of an impact and thats really gpu side performance .
OP, you left out 2 crucial details- for one, how much will it run us/will ATT get in AND will they butcher it (like Skyrocket came to be) or not? I honestly feel we struck insane luck w/ GS2 being left mostly untouched and I don't forsee this happening again anytime soon.
well from what i have been told all Galaxy S phones will be left almost untouched from SGS2 forward. The agreement seems to be as long as its galaxy S it stays almost untouched. The captivate previous and skyrocket are variants not SGS therefore the mostly at&t differentiation. The SGS3 will follow like the SGS2, ps the Galaxy Nexus is coming to AT&T in February http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/google/android/galaxy-nexus-coming-to-att-in-february/
Well hopefully they will figure out to get Exynos to work with the LTE chipsets.
im thinking that will be a definite, a matter of short time really
I might have to wait to see this in person :
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/27/samsu...-1-5ghz-quad-core-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
June? If so any regret?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516924
[RUMOR] and source is BGR....a serious RAG of a blog.
Of course there will be bigger better phones coming out around every corner. I think we all understood quad-core phones were coming soon.....but most of us got The Note for it's screen size.
Regrets, NO
FULL DISCLOSURE: I hate BGR
I stopped reading at "BGR".
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I might have to wait to see this in person :
http://www.bgr.com/2012/02/27/samsu...-1-5ghz-quad-core-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/
June? If so any regret?
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No regrets for following reasons:
I was NOT gonna hang on to my old Cappy for another 5 months when the old girl had barely been chugging along since the fall.
I will believe the hype around quad-core processors when I see it in action. Hard to believe that performance will so outpace dual-core processors by enough for the casual user (me) to notice, and I'm also nearly certain that the first quad-core devices will be battery chompers.
-Ryan
Love my Note, regrets = NO.
but's it's battle for my wife S3 or IP5
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[RUMOR] and source is BGR....a serious RAG of a blog.
Of course there will be bigger better phones coming out around every corner. I think we all understood quad-core phones were coming soon.....but most of us got The Note for it's screen size.
Regrets, NO
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Yeah me too I read it at http://techcrunch.com/2012/02/27/th...d-1-5ghz-4-8-inch-1080p-display-ceramic-case/ which cited BGR.. still (its own quad didn't surprise me) but 1080p!
Still curious about its battery & speaker/s (hopefully more impressive than the Note's speaker). Would it have been so hard for Samsung to launch the Note with ICS in February? Does the Nexus have some kind of phone ICS exclusivity until March as some Samsung rep suggested to me at the Note launch..?
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No regrets for following reasons:
I was NOT gonna hang on to my old Cappy for another 5 months when the old girl had barely been chugging along since the fall.
I will believe the hype around quad-core processors when I see it in action. Hard to believe that performance will so outpace dual-core processors by enough for the casual user (me) to notice, and I'm also nearly certain that the first quad-core devices will be battery chompers.
-Ryan
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The quad core battery efficiency is God-like, actually. All quad cores are going to have an "idle core" like Tegra 3 has to rely on when sleeping/under light load. My experience with transformer prime is that quad cores give sick performance and WONDERFUL battery life. I imagine this is why all of these new superphones announced at MWC today that are using he new Krait S4's (dual core but 28nm process makes it very efficient) and Tegra 3 processors have 1800 maH batteries or less. We'll see but I expect battery life to be sick on these phones, based on my experience with Tegra 3 thus far.
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Everyone knows iBGR is not a reliable source..
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While I have no faith in the reliability of these two sources and as a result don't pay much mind to anything that they and other such sites write, I still find reading the comments section of articles like those very much entertaining.
For example,
Person 1: What will be the marketing price?
Person 2: Most coments sayng its fake :O
Person 1: Even I think so .. It dont even have single button ..
What Apple cant even do
Uh. Galaxy Nexus? Hmmm. Some of those iSheep never cease to amaze me with their ignorance.
Another common topic:
"um. doesn't ceramic shatter ridiculously easily?"
"Won't it shatter if you drop it?"
"Ceramic = Heavy as hell? no?"
Granted, they are stating it in a question form, showing they truly don't know **** about ceramics and their wide array of characteristics. At least there are some other comment posters that know about ceramics and will hopefully quell the blind ignorance. It just amuses me when people spew about a product and bash it about something that they are completely wrong about. People need t do more research.
Lastly, I love when people bash a phone over it's size. That's just blatant bias in the most obvious form.
"I don't see the value in making the screen 4.8" (what happened to normal sized phones?)"
4.8" may not be normal to some, but it is perfectly normal to somebody with large hands such as myself. In fact, using an iPhone is cumbersome to me, so their normal sized phone is in fact "not normal" to me. I hate when people state their own opinions and biases as fact. I will see my note as a big middle finger to all people who care about my phone's size. It's my phone, piss off and worry about your own life. I already have people shocked with the size of my Infuse, and I just laugh saying it's the best phone I've ever used by far, mostly due to the size. However, that is not true for everybody, and I let them know that I like the size of such phones because my hands are huge.
How can you state something like the "phone is too big"? It should be, "this phone is too big for me." See what I did there? removing bias makes your statements so much less controversial and fanboy hate-inducing. Most of these people fail to realize that nobody really gives a flying fack about some other random person's opinion on the internet. Or at least they shoudn't, but sadly (or maybe more entertainingly) people get dragged into arguments on tech blogs all due to the fact that they cannot recognize bias and opinion, and cannot distinguish between those and fact. I can't believe these tech sites get away with so much heavy bias and still continue to rack up the views. Granted, I contributed a view, but an unbiased one at that.
I don't have any problem with people commenting on these sites with their opinions about a device, but they should leave it at that, an opinion, and not try to state it as fact. Overall, I am proud of Android users in the way that they tend to be the more calm, collect, and unbiased commenters compared to a lot of iSheep. Both sides have their radicals, but I think the Apple slaves tip the scales with crazy. Haha. Provides good entertainment to say the least. =]
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The quad core battery efficiency is God-like, actually. All quad cores are going to have an "idle core" like Tegra 3 has to rely on when sleeping/under light load. My experience with transformer prime is that quad cores give sick performance and WONDERFUL battery life. I imagine this is why all of these new superphones announced at MWC today that are using he new Krait S4's (dual core but 28nm process makes it very efficient) and Tegra 3 processors have 1800 maH batteries or less. We'll see but I expect battery life to be sick on these phones, based on my experience with Tegra 3 thus far.
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I'm glad someone with TF201 experience spoke up, I still want to see a TF700 series with its 1080p display+improved GPS-wireless.
In all the coverage at MWC of quad core phones with these smallish batteries, I'm still surprised there aren't more inquiries into battery life specs..especially with LTE.
BTW, why didn't AT&T include a LTE off switch for the I717?
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BTW, why didn't AT&T include a LTE off switch for
the I717?
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They never did for any phone, not even a 3G off switch for 3G phones. Easier to push you into the data overage and charge you more $$$.
BTW, current Tegra 3 phones are not compatible with LTE radio. So, if and when GS3 comes to AT&T, it may not be Tegra 3. It has already been confirmed that HTC's new One X for AT&T will be Snapdragon S4 dual-core instead of Tegra 3.
However, according to the reports, Tegra 3 compatible LTE radio chip will be available 2 months down the road. So, that could be why GS3 is delayed.
Hope AT&T doesn't do what they did with the HTC One X and turn that quad core into a dual core snap dragon for the LTE radio
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They never did for any phone, not even a 3G off switch for 3G phones. Easier to push you into the data overage and charge you more $$$.
BTW, current Tegra 3 phones are not compatible with LTE radio. So, if and when GS3 comes to AT&T, it may not be Tegra 3. It has already been confirmed that HTC's new One X for AT&T will be Snapdragon S4 dual-core instead of Tegra 3.
However, according to the reports, Tegra 3 compatible LTE radio chip will be available 2 months down the road. So, that could be why GS3 is delayed.
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No LTE switch hacks?
"1.5GHz quad-core Samsung Exynos processor" unlike current Tegra 3 is supposed to be LTE compatible.
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"1.5GHz quad-core Samsung Exynos processor" unlike current Tegra 3 is supposed to be LTE compatible.
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It's the other way around. Currently most LTE smartphones use Qualcomm radio chip which supports HSPA+ and LTE. But current chip requires Qualcomm CPU. There is a new chip from Qualcomm out soon that supports CMDA, HSPA+ and LTE and will drop the Qualcomm CPU requirement. That will be the chip used in iPhone5.
So, unless Samsung packs its own LTE radio chip AND AT&T is willing to accept Samsung's LTE radio, it's not going to work.
Price
what will be the price of this phone??
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Hope AT&T doesn't do what they did with the HTC One X and turn that quad core into a dual core snap dragon for the LTE radio
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The Qualcomm dual core beats the nvidia quad core in benchmarks.
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That actually is one of the rumors going around the web...it may have the quad and compatible lte radio.
Looks like the one x did drop its rumored quadcore as well.
As you have seen me post befor..."sammy" told me on the 11th that the s3 will have the next gen snapdragon 1.5 dual core because of heat/battery consumption
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It's the other way around. Currently most LTE smartphones use Qualcomm radio chip which supports HSPA+ and LTE. But current chip requires Qualcomm CPU. There is a new chip from Qualcomm out soon that supports CMDA, HSPA+ and LTE and will drop the Qualcomm CPU requirement. That will be the chip used in iPhone5.
So, unless Samsung packs its own LTE radio chip AND AT&T is willing to accept Samsung's LTE radio, it's not going to work.
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That actually is one of the rumors going around the web...it may have the quad and compatible lte radio.
Looks like the one x did drop its rumored quadcore as well.
As you have seen me post befor..."sammy" told me on the 11th that the s3 will have the next gen snapdragon 1.5 dual core because of heat/battery consumption
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That's the rumor, also I wouldn't be surprised to see the following as its rear camera sensor:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/samsung-8mp-backside-illuminated-zsl/
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That's the rumor, also I wouldn't be surprised to see the following as its rear camera sensor:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/27/samsung-8mp-backside-illuminated-zsl/
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better camera sensors are great but would be nice to see optics upgraded and talked about more. Megapixles and sensors are important but optics are what makes great pics.
http://briefmobile.com/lg-ls970-eclipse-coming-with-1-5-ghz-quad-core-krait-cpu
1.5GHz Krait 28nm S4 quad-core, APQ8064 chipset, Adreno 320, 2GB RAM, 13MP rear cam, 4Q release on Sprint...
Demoed in February: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5590/qualcomm-shows-off-quad-core-krait-apq8064-at-15-ghz-
Fap fap fap?
Also, SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
Looks promising, hopefully it will live up to the hype
Eh.. User experience is better on HTC IMO.
I'll hit that if its dev friendly and ASOP. Anyone have experiences with LG devices. I really don't see them around.
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My buddy has an Optimus G2X on T-Mobile that has full support for MIUI ICS and CM9, so I figure dev support should be there... Maybe?
Impressive....most impressive.
I wonder how good the camera will be. Dang, I had my heart set on the Evo LTE....now I am doubting that.
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http://briefmobile.com/lg-ls970-eclipse-coming-with-1-5-ghz-quad-core-krait-cpu
1.5GHz Krait 28nm S4 quad-core, APQ8064 chipset, Adreno 320, 2GB RAM, 13MP rear cam, 4Q release on Sprint...
Demoed in February: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5590/qualcomm-shows-off-quad-core-krait-apq8064-at-15-ghz-
Fap fap fap?
Also, SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
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Well you have about 8-10 months to get your money ready till its released.
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Impressive....most impressive.
I wonder how good the camera will be. Dang, I had my heart set on the Evo LTE....now I am doubting that.
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Nope I'm still set on the evo lte
I'd almost be excited, if it weren't LG.
Kudos to LG
I guess they've had enough of HTC & Samsung dumping spec sheets all over them.
Although I'm still getting the EVO LTE, I think LG has something to be proud of here.
With all the debate about HTC vs. Samsung support for the dev community, wouldn't it be awesome if LG popped up as like a dark horse, fully supported and encouraged development on their hardware and shocked everybody?
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While the specs look beast, I'm not so sure about the LG user experience and update schedule.
I think I'm going to wait for the next HTC flagship with the quad core A15 krait and adreno 320 gpu. While the one x/evo lte is nice, its not worth signing another two year contract for. My 3D is damn fast how it is and will only get faster as mikeys development continues on his ics rom.
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How will the screen compare to One X? Im not too worried about the processor or ram. My 3D does everything fine.. i dont play games or anything like that.
I've owned an LG optimus s (loved it) and my fiance had the LG revolution (worst phone ever). the difference? the optimus had sprints ui spring ID and it ran well. the revolution? that had LG's flavor and ran like the crap. The revo has way more hardware specs than the optimus, but you wouldn't have guessed it...
The thing both phones had in common... slow update schedule... er, almost nonexistent. So, I wouldn't hold my breath for LG... if this phone is this high on the hardware and is an experience like the revolution... it'll actually perform like the phones of this previous fall (excluding benchmarks - i'm talking personal user experience).
My only gripe with LG is the dismal update schedule.
Their Optimus 3D only recently recieved the Gingerbread update... Talk about late to the table.
"He did reconfirm the 4th quarter release schedule for the device"
Okay.. so it's going to release with a quad core Krait and 2GB of RAM closer to the end of the year, when that will probably be a standard in all high end phones.
Just wait for whatever HTC or Samsung have.
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http://briefmobile.com/lg-ls970-eclipse-coming-with-1-5-ghz-quad-core-krait-cpu
1.5GHz Krait 28nm S4 quad-core, APQ8064 chipset, Adreno 320, 2GB RAM, 13MP rear cam, 4Q release on Sprint...
Demoed in February: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5590/qualcomm-shows-off-quad-core-krait-apq8064-at-15-ghz-
Fap fap fap?
Also, SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
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wow I can't believe they actually are doing this....pairing the APQ8064 with the MDM9615.....is it really worth all that in the end?.....my answer is no b/c adding the MDM9615 likely takes up space of something else or at the very least makes things different than the normal layout of just having the one SoC with integrated modems...
They have to do it like that with the APQ8064 if in a phone b/c that SoC even though an S4 chip, it has no modem's like the others do...
personally id rather wait and get the SoC next years evo over getting this thing if it were up to me...that and its an LG...lol
Whoa...this thing seems pretty amazing. As long as the build quality and dev community were anywhere from decent to great, this phone would end up being AMAZING. I'm not so sure where all the negative speculation about the "LG experience" is coming from, I haven't heard much negativity about them in the past. Most feedback towards them seems pretty indifferent and/or good. I can't imagine any experience being all that bad with the amount of customization that we have on Android.
Assuming I don't give in and get the EVOLTE (that's what i'v decided to call it btw, lol) or SGSIII i'll definitely be keeping an eye out for this...
i can't believe how fast things are moving. What technology do you guys figure we'll have by next summer?
According to this article, it's true. Featured: Verizon wireless turns down HTC’s ONE series in favor of Droid Incredible 4G LTE
There are some similarities between the incredible 4G and the one series of devices. The incredible 4G will carry beats audio, support for HTC’s Media Link video system, and will run on Android’s newest version of the operating system 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. While it shares these traits however, some things are different as it will not house the same 1.5 ghz dual core snapdragon S4 from qualcomm, but a slower 1.2 ghz dual core model. It also doesn’t use the image sense camera processor that is found in the One line of devices.
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So not only will it not have the ImageSense chip, but it will also not have the beastly s4 chip either. I don't see how this would be any sort of upgrade over the Rezound. The only thing it has going for it is native sense 4.0(although our Sense 4.0 ROMS are coming along great),bettery battery life(due to lower pixel density screen and larger mAh battery), and a 4" screen(for those that prefer it). The only thing I can infer is that the article meant to state that it was the same S4 chip, but just an underclocked version. Let's hope I'm right.
Edit: I've been aware that there are many different versions of the s4 chips, so it still is the s4. My apologies.
It's still an S4, just running at 1.2Ghz.
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It's still an S4, just running at 1.2Ghz.
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This article says otherwise.
graymonkey44 said:
This article says otherwise.
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its an s4 clocked at 1.2, same chip, different clock speed, probably to improve battery life.
It almost sounds like a S3.5
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This article says otherwise.
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It states it's getting a slower dual core, it doesn't say it's not an S4...
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/7/3006119/droid-incredible-4g-lte-hands-on
While not technically a "One" device from HTC, it nevertheless has respectable specs for a 2012 phone: 960 x 540 Super LCD, 1.2GHz dual-core Snapdragon S4, and Android 4.0 with HTC's latest iteration of Sense.
does that clear it up?
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its an s4 clocked at 1.2, same chip, different clock speed, probably to improve battery life.
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It says it "as it will not house the same 1.5 ghz dual core snapdragon S4 from qualcomm". This can be interpretted that it doesn't have an s4 in it all together. Or that there are different versions of the s4 chip. I am aware that every other website states that it does have the s4 chip in it. I'm just questioning the inconsitency of this article or stating the possibility.
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It almost sounds like a S3.5
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Except for there's no such thing. It's an S4, just running at 1.2GHz.
There's lots of different versions of the S4, ranging from 1GHz all the way up to 1.7GHz.
Yeah, my apologies, there are 3 different s4 chips that have a 1.2 ghz processor. So it could be the MSM8230, MSM8630, or MSM8930.
It is still AN S4, just not the SAME S4. It is probably the 8930 instead of the One's 8960. Check this chart from Qualcomm:
developer.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
androidandme.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/snapdragon-s4-details.jpg
mobiletechworld.com/2011/07/05/new-qualcomm-2011-2012-roadmap-and-soc-specifications/
If it is the 8930, it would be a world phone, and the GPU would be not as nice as the 8960, but the memory is single channel instead of dual channel, and of course the display is qhd, and the camera isn't as tricked out.
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Yeah, my apologies, there are 3 different s4 chips that have a 1.2 ghz processor. So it could be the MSM8230, MSM8630, or MSM8930.
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First of all, I'm upset with the fact you would even post a thread that insinuates the Droid Inc 4G would NOT have an S4 when there has been no reports otherwise.
Second of all, you still don't know what your talking about listing random model numbers of upcoming S4 processors.
The 8230 is NOT an LTE chip, and neither is the 8630. The only possibility you mention is the the MSM8930, of which you fail to see the importance of such a claim. The MSM8930, as well as it's non-LTE brethren you also mentioned, has an Adreno 305 GPU. The Adreno 305 GPU would be the latest GPU we've seen in a while, which would lead to much more interest in the chipset of this phone.
Now I am not insinuating that the phone does have the MSM8930, I have no proof of that, though it does seem like that is a possibility, but it is also possible the phone has an underclocked version of another S4 for improved battery life.
Source 1: en.wikipedia .org/wiki/Snapdragon_%28system_on_chip%29
Source 2: developer.qualcomm .com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
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First of all, I'm upset with the fact you would even post a thread that insinuates the Droid Inc 4G would NOT have an S4 when there has been no reports otherwise.
Second of all, you still don't know what your talking about listing random model numbers of upcoming S4 processors.
The 8230 is NOT an LTE chip, and neither is the 8630. The only possibility you mention is the the MSM8930, of which you fail to see the importance of such a claim. The MSM8930, as well as it's non-LTE brethren you also mentioned, has an Adreno 305 GPU. The Adreno 305 GPU would be the latest GPU we've seen in a while, which would lead to much more interest in the chipset of this phone.
Now I am not insinuating that the phone does have the MSM8930, I have no proof of that, though it does seem like that is a possibility, but it is also possible the phone has an underclocked version of another S4 for improved battery life.
Source 1: en.wikipedia .org/wiki/Snapdragon_%28system_on_chip%29
Source 2: developer.qualcomm .com/sites/default/files/snapdragon-specs.pdf
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Chill out. This is General. He can post here if he wants.
The phone is a disappointment specs wise regardless of the processor. You don't look at the processor you look at the screen. Huge step back for a new phone
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MSM8930 does look like the only option for LTE+CDMA @ 1.2Ghz
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MSM8930 does look like the only option for LTE+CDMA @ 1.2Ghz
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Which would make it another world phone. Assuming the radios and antennas support it.
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Which would make it another world phone. Assuming the radios and antennas support it.
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Probably. But if they don't want it to be a world phone like the Rezound (obviously they decided against it at some point) they will probably leave out the required antennas or radio code.
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Chill out. This is General. He can post here if he wants.
The phone is a disappointment specs wise regardless of the processor. You don't look at the processor you look at the screen. Huge step back for a new phone
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this assumes that everyone's desire for a phone is a bigger screen and higher resolution....which isn't the case
personally i like the 4 inch screen over bigger ones, and i have a tablet if i need to watch videos/browse on a huge screen
screen aside, its hard to call the other specs a "huge step back"...you could be disappointed that its not some *superphone* that blows away anything that came before it but it still has
1gb of ram (same as all other top tier phones)
s4 processor (yes less powerful than one x doesnt need to power a 4.7 inch hd screen)
only 2nd vzw phone (and first non nexus) to launch with ics
bluetooth 4.0
nfc
the combination of a qhd screen and its processor should yield (read should) very good battery life for a lte htc phone
obviously if you have a rezound, its not going to be worth an upgrade in all likelyhood (unless you just dont like the rezound for w/e reason), but frustration aside at not getting a one x or equivalent on vzw theres no reason to trash the phone
the complaints sound similar to ones hurled at the inc2, and despite its relative lack of popularity it was a very solid, snappy mid-tier phone with awesome battery life...so if this its lte equivalent, count me in
This IS the vzw one series. Vzw is butthurt about their DROID line so they gave ir that title. I its like the evo 4G lte. Still considered part of the one series, and just not officially with that name. I and it's an s4 just clocked at 1.2. They will be able to oc it in like a week though so it doesn't matter.
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Chill out. This is General. He can post here if he wants.
The phone is a disappointment specs wise regardless of the processor. You don't look at the processor you look at the screen. Huge step back for a new phone
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this assumes that everyone's desire for a phone is a bigger screen and higher resolution....which isn't the case
personally i like the 4 inch screen over bigger ones, and i have a tablet if i need to watch videos/browse on a huge screen
screen aside, its hard to call the other specs a "huge step back"...you could be disappointed that its not some *superphone* that blows away anything that came before it but it still has
1gb of ram (same as all other top tier phones)
s4 processor (yes less powerful than one x doesnt need to power a 4.7 inch hd screen)
only 2nd vzw phone (and first non nexus) to launch with ics
bluetooth 4.0
nfc
the combination of a qhd screen and its processor should yield (read should) very good battery life for a lte htc phone
obviously if you have a rezound, its not going to be worth an upgrade in all likelyhood (unless you just dont like the rezound for w/e reason), but frustration aside at not getting a one x or equivalent on vzw theres no reason to trash the phone
the complaints sound similar to ones hurled at the inc2, and despite its relative lack of popularity it was a very solid, snappy mid-tier phone with awesome battery life...so if this its lte equivalent, count me in
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agree. 720p screen is nice, but it seems to kill battery. I still prefer the 4.3 over 4, but other specs are on par or better than rezound.
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This IS the vzw one series. Vzw is butthurt about their DROID line so they gave ir that title. I its like the evo 4G lte. Still considered part of the one series, and just not officially with that name. I and it's an s4 just clocked at 1.2. They will be able to oc it in like a week though so it doesn't matter.
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No, that's not the case at all. Verizon came out and said so. It doesn't share specs with any One device. I used to think that too, but its clear now that the Dinc4g is not a One device. It's a Dinc.
So I saw this today on a new HTC model the M7. A few of the specs have leaked, but nothing substantial. Take a look at what we know so far:
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"The HTC Droid DNA has been on the market for only two weeks (and we’re still waiting on the international launch for the HTC DLX), but HTC is already focused on its next flagship device. According to multiple sources, HTC is working with semiconductor and casing suppliers in an effort to secure enough components to manufacture 4 to 5 million units of the HTC M7 in Q1 of 2013.
Exact specifications of the mysterious HTC M7 are a bit vague, but with a little bit of research we’ve been able to pull together quite a bit of information about the phone. Form what we can gather, the HTC M7 will feature a 5-inch HD display, a uni-body aluminum shell, Qualcomm APQ8064 quad-core processor and a 13 megapixel camera."
Welcome to the smartphone industry. Its like clockwork and always will be
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So I saw this today on a new HTC model the M7. A few of the specs have leaked, but nothing substantial. Take a look at what we know so far:
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"The HTC Droid DNA has been on the market for only two weeks (and we’re still waiting on the international launch for the HTC DLX), but HTC is already focused on its next flagship device. According to multiple sources, HTC is working with semiconductor and casing suppliers in an effort to secure enough components to manufacture 4 to 5 million units of the HTC M7 in Q1 of 2013.
Exact specifications of the mysterious HTC M7 are a bit vague, but with a little bit of research we’ve been able to pull together quite a bit of information about the phone. Form what we can gather, the HTC M7 will feature a 5-inch HD display, a uni-body aluminum shell, Qualcomm APQ8064 quad-core processor and a 13 megapixel camera."
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Not the DNA on steroids, more like...the exact same specs as the DNA in an aluminum case. So it'll basically be the One X+++ and will go to the crappy carriers to bolster their failing markets, or go to Europe. New Year rumors for HTC devices usually means a GSM release. Wake me when HTC actually creates a unified device line instead of their scatter-shot releases like they promised last year.
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Welcome to the smartphone industry. Its like clockwork and always will be
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IPhone 5 and Droid DNA hybrid. I think HTC has sunk to a new desperate low. Paying off Apple and releasing every product they have on every operating system and hoping one sticks.
Here is some advice HTC. Having something that remotely resembles a plan will do wonders rather than going full throttle without a plan.
I'm not entirely certain why people with the DNA are upset?
It was clear from the DNAs specs that HTC would have a better flagship next year (the DNAs camera is the same as the HOX).
As predicted, aside from physical changes, the only thing new is the Camera.
So, Verizon customers get a device 4 months before everyone else, sacrificing only a camera and aluminum unibody. Not a bad deal TBH.
HTC needs something exciting like bringing back the aluminum unibody. The Desire HD is a fantastically solid device, and the HTC M7, if real, is a perfect replacement.
Surprised Qualcomm hasn't announced a better SoC than the APQ they are using currently...
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Surprised Qualcomm hasn't announced a better SoC than the APQ they are using currently...
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I'll be waiting to see if a phone comes out with the MSM8974 under the hood. :fingers-crossed:
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I'll be waiting to see if a phone comes out with the MSM8974 under the hood. :fingers-crossed:
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More likely this...
At present, this [S4 Pro] is the same Krait CPU as what we've seen in MSM8960 in phones like the USA versions of the Galaxy S 3 and HTC One X. Later on, Krait v3 will emerge with higher IPC and shorter critical paths (and clocks up to 1.7 or 2 GHz) and a resulting 10-15% boost in performance. For now however we're looking at 1.5 GHz APQ8064 with a Krait v2 inside and Qualcomm's newest scalar GPU architecture with Adreno 320. We're going to talk more about Adreno 320 closer to devices shipping, when Qualcomm feels comfortable talking architecture.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Architecturally, S4 Pro is just S4 with two additional cores and a different GPU.
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I'll be waiting to see if a phone comes out with the MSM8974 under the hood. :fingers-crossed:
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Yes the MSM8974 should be a beast... Supposed to start showing up next yr though...
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BarryH_GEG said:
More likely this...
At present, this [S4 Pro] is the same Krait CPU as what we've seen in MSM8960 in phones like the USA versions of the Galaxy S 3 and HTC One X. Later on, Krait v3 will emerge with higher IPC and shorter critical paths (and clocks up to 1.7 or 2 GHz) and a resulting 10-15% boost in performance. For now however we're looking at 1.5 GHz APQ8064 with a Krait v2 inside and Qualcomm's newest scalar GPU architecture with Adreno 320. We're going to talk more about Adreno 320 closer to devices shipping, when Qualcomm feels comfortable talking architecture.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6112/...agon-s4-apq8064adreno-320-performance-preview
Architecturally, S4 Pro is just S4 with two additional cores and a different GPU.
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I still hate how they coined the quad core as the s4 pro bc originally the S4 Pro was the MSM8960 Pro SoC which was the 8960 with the higher better GPU..... Then ppl started calling the quad the pro...
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i will so buy this if it comes out!!!
luke1333 said:
i will so buy this if it comes out!!!
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Don't we all have a DNA who ever is posting in this thread no reason at all to upgrade because it's not an upgrade except for the camera.
Ndaoud360 said:
Don't we all have a DNA who ever is posting in this thread no reason at all to upgrade because it's not an upgrade except for the camera.
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truth is nobody really knows yet.
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I still hate how they coined the quad core as the s4 pro bc originally the S4 Pro was the MSM8960 Pro SoC which was the 8960 with the higher better GPU..... Then ppl started calling the quad the pro...
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Are you sure it wasn't the "Plus" and some people thought it was "Pro"? It is officially called "Plus" now at least.
I've seen stuff like this happen though. My HTC Touch had a "micro usb" port for charging which the manual and other references stated. Then that plug somehow became "Mini" and the "Micro" is now a different one. I remembered I wanted to buy another charger on Amazon a year or so after getting the phone and was very confused until I figured out that they changed the name.
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Don't we all have a DNA who ever is posting in this thread no reason at all to upgrade because it's not an upgrade except for the camera.
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Yeah, I'll take the plastic. It might scratch easier, but I like the feel of the DNA and the plastic protects the internals more from the shocks of impacts.
Maybe it's because my first phone was an HTC, but I always find myself rooting (oh, the puns) for them. I guess it's the whole underdog thing. But they need to ditch the carrier exclusive nonsense. There should be a flagship device pushed out across the bigger carriers, and that's that.
I have the thunderbolt, and my memory isn't short. I ask myself what will happen in 2 years with this phone? I'm still waiting for ICS on my bolt. What assurance do I have that the DNA or any subsequent phone wont end up in the same boat after the initial craze dies down?
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
I expected this device next year with a better camera and krait v3 process. I don't know why everyone is bashing HTC. The DNA was a Verizon and Japan exclusive just for the winter to compete with note 2. This device is going to compete with galaxy s4 the reason why they released the DNA and butterfly this year and exclusive is because if this was international then next year they would have had to release another phone with a better camera and processor to compete with galaxy s4.
The fact that they have done the national beta release and an official international release they have avoided the mistake they made with sensation-xe and one x+x+. Rather this time they have released the next year flagship exclusive to see what the flaws are so next year it will not be hit and miss like the one x. They have also got a new marketing VP so it looks Like they are taking things seriously. Some people on Xda need to stop bashing HTC as their flagship cycle has changed for the better the people who bought the DNA are stupid if they wanted this as they should have waited.
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don't know.... the name's m7, to me that sounds like tablet area, if not, it's probably the eu version of the dna, like the codename for the one x is endeavor it's probably something like that, what was once being rumored as the htc zeta is today the dna 5inch qualcomm quad and all.
Thats upsetting, but this is the way of the smartphone world and always will be. I wonder if the camera will be much better?
Hopefully it comes out in the next 14 days so I can exchange my DNA LOL.
orangechoochoo said:
Hopefully it comes out in the next 14 days so I can exchange my DNA LOL.
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Shame on u lol
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