I'm using a ZTE blade with CM7 and ICS launcher overclocked to 748 MHz. I'm using a super app to SD application called Droidsail.
When I boot my phone, because of all the apps loading ( I have 150+ apps) I get multiple force closes and the phone hangs. I've to try like 10 times before it gets stable. Somebody help. is there anything I can do?
Move some apps to your SD card.
1) Menu -> Settings -> Applications -> Manage Applications
2) Select an app from the list, and press the button 'Move to SD card.'
Go for the 'unimportant' ones, like Angry Birds. (i.e. I'd keep Flash internal.)
Avoid anything with a widget (that you're using).
I can't say if this truly is a cure. It worked for me, but, personally, it just doesn't seem to be logical.
150!?!?!? And I thought 110 was too many.
dude all the apps are on my memory card. all 150+ except for my launcher and my widgets. that's the problem. when I boot, it loads all 150+ from the memory card causing multiple FCs. it sucks. I tried increasing the SD cache size. no difference :/
and yeah, 150+ and counting.
I think you should use an app to configure your startup apps which runs when you starts yor phone.. i'm using an app called System Tuner its great, and in the section Startups you can prevent the apps u don't want to open automatically when u turn your phone On
thanks a lot. I'll try it.
but the apps don't fc. the launcher does. I think as It reads and loads the apps. Idk. :/
btw I'm using ics launcher v1.4. it has a bad rep., but I want the ics look.
no man. I limited the startup apps. no difference. I just rebooted with 7 FCs.
somebody help!!!!!!
if its worth anything, this happens even when I mount my SD card to my laptop and then unmount it.
HELPPPPP
Try moving some apps to the internal storage.
And try and see if your phone supports DarkTremor A2SD. If apps are on a partition on the SD card, they seem to not be as buggy on startup.
(I had the same issue as you, now that I've got most of them on an SD EXT partition it boots normally.)
thanks. a lot
noob question. how do I make am SD ext partition?
First make sure it's compatable
Then backup you SD card (partitioning it will format it)
Third, boot into the recovery and select advance -> Partition SD card
Select your size and the partitioning is done, now you can move your stuff back to the SD card.
thanks.
I have two follow up questions
1) once its partitioned how do I mount it at boot / before boot
2) how do I select it as the default location to install apps
First, SD partitioning is not something I'm comfortable with. Just my 2 cents.
IceCream_Sandwich said:
dude all the apps are on my memory card. all 150+ except for my launcher and my widgets. that's the problem. when I boot, it loads all 150+ from the memory card causing multiple FCs. it sucks. I tried increasing the SD cache size. no difference :/
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OUCH! That sounds crazy! I just checked the phone specs. It says your phone has 512MB internal NAND. Now I understand why everything is on your SD card... sort of.
No expert on this, but I would say it is safe to say that all 150+ apps are not loading into at boot. Only the ones that are A) services, B) started by the launcher, or C) the annoying apps don't seem to have a reason (which tick me off).
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and yeah, 150+ and counting.
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Well... I've tried way, way more. I just replace or uninstall the duplicate/unwanted/unused apps... leaving me at a pretty constant 110. It is fun to experiment. I guess that's why we have Androids!
As a rule, if the web browser can do it, then I avoid the app. (e.g. GasBuddy, WeatherChannel, etc.) (Also, the likes of Tapatalk. Nothing wrong with it, but I just use the website.) </tangent>
IceCream_Sandwich said:
no man. I limited the startup apps. no difference. I just rebooted with 7 FCs.
if its worth anything, this happens even when I mount my SD card to my laptop and then unmount it.
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This hints that some more apps need to be moved from the SD card to phone storage. Which apps FC when you unmount? Or is it just on remount?
I'm hoping you can track down which apps are at fault, move them to "Phone Storage," and avoid the SD partitioning.
Other things:
I have to wait for a bit until I unlock the screen, otherwise my launcher will FC. My conclusion is that it (and the system) are still busy getting setup. Asking the launcher to draw is just asking too much of the CPU, and the watchdog flags it for FC. If you instead press "No thanks"(?) and wait, it will run without error after things have settled down. Pressing "Force close" on the launcher with just restart it's "boot" process, overload the CPU, and FC again.
Default install location is set in: Settings -> Cyanogenmod Settings -> Application -> Install location.
thanks a LOT.
I finally solved it. I created an ext2 partition and since that mounts before boot, all my apps load fine. I also switched to GO launcher.
idk, one of the two helped solve my problem
thanks
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So, after owning alot more android aps than I should, I feel it is neccessary to go with aps2sd
I do have questions though..
1.Where do I find a howto? When I say a howto, I mean a decent walkthru from the start of the partitioning process in amonrecovery to running all the way to setting it up on your phones rom.
2.Do I need a different card other than what came with my Eris? I have read alot that this card causes roms to lag?
3.Once this is setup, how does transitions work when you switch to other roms?
Thanks in advance guys
by the way, I am currently using Buuf rom which is bases off of Fresh2.1.2 if anyone is wondering.
1. there's a couple of guides here... but it's really easy to setup in amon.
- first, copy all your data from SD to your PC (i.e., backup your data)
- boot into recovery
- scroll down to "Partition sdcard" - press trackball to confirm
- for "swap-size" scroll down on trackball to choose "0" (this may be were you hear "lag" from... our internal Eris memory is quicker than your SD for swap)
- for "ext2-size" choose how much space you want for your apps... i choose 768mb (but this is quite alot... for most 512 is plenty)
- "fat32-size" will be the remainder of space on your sdcard - press trackball to confirm your settings and start partitioning.
- once done... you go back to the "Partition sdcard" menu and choose "SD: ext2 to ext3" - press trackball to confirm
after this, your card is ready to go... you can copy your data back.
as for "setting up" on roms... to be honest, in my experience, it varies. some roms work GREAT w/apps2sd... others take a lot of "playing" to get working. both cyanogen based roms here worked great with apps2sd... and it was as easy as going to Settings > Applications and checking the apps2sd box. reboot, install apps, done!
2. i'd say most apps will run just fine from the stock sd card. i didn't notice any lag when using mine (though i upgraded to a class 4 16gb card that i got on the cheap from ebay). again, if your swap was on the stock sd, it may cause lag (and i wouldn't run the swap on sd unless i had a class 6 sdcard, personally)
3. again, this will vary from rom to rom. when i switch between the cyanogen roms, my apps setup/restore just fine
There is a detailed explanation of a2sd by one of the devs himself over in the General Board (where this thread should be):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703747
tenzomonk said:
1. there's a couple of guides here... but it's really easy to setup in amon.
- first, copy all your data from SD to your PC (i.e., backup your data)
- boot into recovery
- scroll down to "Partition sdcard" - press trackball to confirm
- for "swap-size" scroll down on trackball to choose "0" (this may be were you hear "lag" from... our internal Eris memory is quicker than your SD for swap)
- for "ext2-size" choose how much space you want for your apps... i choose 768mb (but this is quite alot... for most 512 is plenty)
- "fat32-size" will be the remainder of space on your sdcard - press trackball to confirm your settings and start partitioning.
- once done... you go back to the "Partition sdcard" menu and choose "SD: ext2 to ext3" - press trackball to confirm
after this, your card is ready to go... you can copy your data back.
as for "setting up" on roms... to be honest, in my experience, it varies. some roms work GREAT w/apps2sd... others take a lot of "playing" to get working. both cyanogen based roms here worked great with apps2sd... and it was as easy as going to Settings > Applications and checking the apps2sd box. reboot, install apps, done!
2. i'd say most apps will run just fine from the stock sd card. i didn't notice any lag when using mine (though i upgraded to a class 4 16gb card that i got on the cheap from ebay). again, if your swap was on the stock sd, it may cause lag (and i wouldn't run the swap on sd unless i had a class 6 sdcard, personally)
3. again, this will vary from rom to rom. when i switch between the cyanogen roms, my apps setup/restore just fine
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hey i just followed ur steps but when the phone rebooted all i get is blank sd-card or unsupported file system any ideas, please help
You may have completely wiped your sd card. Hopefully you did a back up on your computer.
Question for the others: if a rom doesn't have apps2sd, I downloaded one before and put some of my apps and widget apps on there, but when I do a long press on my screen to pick a widget its no longer there. is this how apps2sd work?
especially for the Eris since it only has 159MB.
johnny quest said:
You may have completely wiped your sd card. Hopefully you did a back up on your computer.
Question for the others: if a rom doesn't have apps2sd, I downloaded one before and put some of my apps and widget apps on there, but when I do a long press on my screen to pick a widget its no longer there. is this how apps2sd work?
especially for the Eris since it only has 159MB.
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Widgets from sd aren't supported. You have to keep them on internal memory.
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johnny quest said:
You may have completely wiped your sd card. Hopefully you did a back up on your computer.
Question for the others: if a rom doesn't have apps2sd, I downloaded one before and put some of my apps and widget apps on there, but when I do a long press on my screen to pick a widget its no longer there. is this how apps2sd work?
especially for the Eris since it only has 159MB.
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Widgets from sd aren't supported. You have to keep them on internal memory.
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Note that even for old school Apps2SD that there's an app (if not on Market, at least on XDA somewhere) called Link2SD that finally allows you to use old Apps2SD selectively, so you can keep some of your apps in internal memory like the ones with widgets and others needing faster access, and individually tell other apps to be on the SD card. Haven't tried it myself but it appears to be quite real.
I have rooted my optimus one.
just wanna know which are d apps that are neCessary to remain in the phone memory.
so that i cn move rest to sd.
Widgets should remain in the phone memory. Everything else that doesn't run frequently should go to the SD card
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Widgets should remain in the phone memory. Everything else that doesn't run frequently should go to the SD card
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What about keyboards,go sms,maps n youtube??
Oh yea. I forgot about those. Keyboards and go sms. I think it's okay to move youtube and maps onto the sd card
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Oh yea. I forgot about those. Keyboards and go sms. I think it's okay to move youtube and maps onto the sd card
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K.
unable to move maps n youtube.
stil woried abt lockscreen n launchers.
Are you using the stock ROM? Apps that are in /system/app cannot be moved to the SD. If you installed it via downloading/installing from the market or somewhere else, you can move it.
Everything that feels like it should be launched no matter what or those that need to be started quickly on boot, keep it on the phone memory.
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Are you using the stock ROM? Apps that are in /system/app cannot be moved to the SD. If you installed it via downloading/installing from the market or somewhere else, you can move it.
Everything that feels like it should be launched no matter what or those that need to be started quickly on boot, keep it on the phone memory.
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Yeah. m on stock.
did move sum apps to sd via app 2 sd enabler.
Cmon guys I thougjt it was safe to move all sh#t to sd
It's safe. It's just that apps that need to be started on boot must be there as soon as it can. Read and write speeds on the SD card is much slower than on the phone memory.
Well he didnt ask for fast boot
It's not about fast booting It's about getting the things you need as fast as you can. For example, I need a widget to load as fast as it can since it has to be there as soon as the phone boots. That was my point
Everything that you don't use everyday move to SDcard (if possible). If you move favourite apps to SD and you acces them all day long you will shorten the SDcard's life.
I have void with a2sd enabled. So all user applications are on sd. Can I use titanium backup to move some apps to internal memory?
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I have void with a2sd enabled. So all user applications are on sd. Can I use titanium backup to move some apps to internal memory?
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I used Titanium to move a lot of stuff over to the SD from Internal... Stuff in the /system directory doesn't affect your phone's "Internal Storage Space" as reported in the Settings menu since /data and /system are separate partitions. Apart from /system apps, the only thing that I would want to move to the SD that it couldn't move was the PayPal App from the app-private location. Going into ADB wouldn't allow me to do it either.
Titanium also allowed me to uninstall a bunch of the **** that came installed like game demos. This did not free up additional storage space, with the exception of what it removed from Dalvik-Cache. Which, btw is going to be your biggest issue... Some ROM's allow you to move this to the /cache partition, but this is a relatively small partition (~56MB) on this phone and my Dalvik-Cache currently takes up ~90MB.
Pls reply here guys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941156
I use app 2 sd to move everything I dont need frequently on SD, than just long press on those program from app 2 sd and Open them.
It's a bit tricky and I dont know other ways (on the home screen most of SD apps wont appear...) but I never had slow opening and the like
Everything was ok till xtesterday.
today i rebooted ma cell,
and all d apps disappeared of sd.
though sd is accessible via file manager,gallery.
i tried formattingsd,cell reset.
bt all in vain.
cant install from file manager.
cant even install from market.
even unable to unmount ma card.
any solution???
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I used Titanium to move a lot of stuff over to the SD from Internal... Stuff in the /system directory doesn't affect your phone's "Internal Storage Space" as reported in the Settings menu since /data and /system are separate partitions. Apart from /system apps, the only thing that I would want to move to the SD that it couldn't move was the PayPal App from the app-private location. Going into ADB wouldn't allow me to do it either.
Titanium also allowed me to uninstall a bunch of the **** that came installed like game demos. This did not free up additional storage space, with the exception of what it removed from Dalvik-Cache. Which, btw is going to be your biggest issue... Some ROM's allow you to move this to the /cache partition, but this is a relatively small partition (~56MB) on this phone and my Dalvik-Cache currently takes up ~90MB.
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I used Titanium again and used it to incorporate the updated GApps into the ROM. I knew that I had about 56MB free on the system partition. Putting Gmail, Maps, Street view, Market and anything else that I could find freed 30MB on the data partition.
Goofy problem but every rom I have tried will not update tweetdeck properly in the background with the screen black, except for xtrsense. Even the original stock rom does not work properly at doing this. Has anyone else had the same problem? Is there a fix?
I would love to be able to go to one of the 2.2 or 2.3 roms but i need tweetdeck to update properly on my accounts.
Side question - will there be a 2.2 or 2.3 for xtrsense?
Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
Tweetdeck is one of my key apps and I have no trouble at all with it on CELB Froyo or GSB. The only ROM I had an issue with was a later version of Nonsensikal. For some reason, that had an Autokiller-like aggressive memory setting and Tweetdeck would not stay open in the background.
Unlike many other twitter clients, Tweetdeck has no way to autostart and seems to have no server component to get updates, and aggressive memory settings will close the app when it is in the background. If you are using autokiller or something like it, using the optimum preset seems to work pretty well. Just vanilla GSB settings are just fine.
KnightRid said:
Side question - will there be a 2.2 or 2.3 for xtrsense?
Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
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Gscript for Apps2SD? I never heard of a GScript for that capability. There's an Apps2SD flashable zip which adds the Apps2SD script to your phone, if that's what you're talking about, but you don't use it in GScript.
Technically and completely literally, there never can be a 2.2 or 2.3 version of xtrSENSE because xtrSENSE is (currently) based on the July OTA 2.1, so it's a heavily modified version of THE official ROM for the Eris. There is no official 2.2 or 2.3 for the Eris, so there's no 2.2 or 2.3 stock ROM with Sense to base a new Eris ROM on.
Devs have worked on 2.2 and 2.3-based Sense ROMs based on stuff from other phones, but none of them are as stable and "finished" as the original stock ROM, or even xtrSENSE. Things don't work such as Wifi and Camera, and possibly some other difficulties. They haven't given up but they've been beating their heads against the wall for months for Froyo Sense. At this point, there's probably a marginally better chance that we'll ever have a port of a Gingerbread Sense which has everything working, over Froyo Sense.
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Tweetdeck is one of my key apps and I have no trouble at all with it on CELB Froyo or GSB. The only ROM I had an issue with was a later version of Nonsensikal. For some reason, that had an Autokiller-like aggressive memory setting and Tweetdeck would not stay open in the background.
Unlike many other twitter clients, Tweetdeck has no way to autostart and seems to have no server component to get updates, and aggressive memory settings will close the app when it is in the background. If you are using autokiller or something like it, using the optimum preset seems to work pretty well. Just vanilla GSB settings are just fine.
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I use advanced app killer but i do not let that run all the time, I just start it when I want to manually kill apps.
It is just so weird with tweetdeck not updating in the background right, except on xtrsense. I just dont get it
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Gscript for Apps2SD? I never heard of a GScript for that capability. There's an Apps2SD flashable zip which adds the Apps2SD script to your phone, if that's what you're talking about, but you don't use it in GScript.
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Yes, he has a gscript script built in to xtrsense that you can just load and run to do it.
I will have to redo my sdcard again and see if that fixes it. I still like how 2.3 lets you move the apps though. It is a WHOLE lot easier.
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Side question 2 - I am going to be searching for this but figured i would throw it in just incase I can not figure it out. I loaded the gscript for the apps2sd but I cant get any apps to the sd card. It is not even an option when I go to the manage apps. Like I said, I am going to search for this one but while I was typing I figured I would throw it in.
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That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
The original post in the xtrSENSE thread explains this pretty well. The relevant portions are here:
Apps2sd and Cache2sd:
I have revamped my implementation of apps2sd to use simpler and better organized scripts. For apps2sd to work you must first complete the listed prerequisites and it is a good idea to read through the "things you may want to know about apps2sd" section. Although it can provide gobs of space for apps, Apps2sd is not for everyone as it ties the stability of your phone to your SD card... If you do not need the space I would recommend that you keep the default of DISABLED; if you want to try you can always disable it again however there is always the chance of issues.
To enable/disable apps2sd and cache2sd just run the appropriate GScript and reboot your phone (Quick Boot makes this easy!).
Prerequisites
If you have not setup your SD card (for those new to Apps2sd) as per tkirton:
BACKUP YOUR SD CARD TO YOUR COMPUTER. Can't stress this enough, as partitioning will wipe the entire card.
Reboot into recovery
In Android System Recovery, select Partition sdcard
In the Partition sdcard menu, select Partition SD
Follow the instructions on the phone to partition your SD card. Most folks seem to recommend using the default values however you can go larger or smaller use values 256, 512,768,1024. You will also be asked to set a swap size; I stayed at 32mb (anticipate future ROM options to allow moving swap to sd)
Once the partition is initially created you must then convert to ext3 - In the Partition sdcard menu, select SD:ext2 to ext3. Follow the instructions on the screen.
Press the back button on the phone to go back to the main menu.
Your SD card is now ready to work with an Apps2sd supported ROM.
Things you may want to know about apps2sd
Bootloop protection is built in if your SD card is corrupted or is removed from the phone with Apps2sd enabled. Your apps will go away but your phone will boot .
There are 3 subsets of data associated to an app when it is installed and run on your phone.
1) /data/app/ (and /data/app-private) - actual .apk files we think of as the applications that are not system apps (i.e. installed on /system/app)
2) /data/data/ - the files produced by ALL apps (system apps and market apps) during installation that are used by the Android system to run the app
3)/data/dalvik-cache/ - app cache file and work space for ALL apps (system apps and market apps).
From root explorer (or similar) you can browse to the /data/app OR the /system/sd/app folders and you will see the same thing, both will tell you how much space you have used and have left. The way apps2sd works is by "linking" the /system/sd/app to the /data/app folder so that the Android system thinks it is accessing the /data/app it is really at /system/sd/app.
I have seen using Apps2sd cause issues with some.zip flash updates as they try to write directly to the /data/app folder which no longer "physically" exists
If you get into a bootloop issue using apps2sd boot into amon_ra recovery and try one of the follow:
1) from the Other menu option select the Fix apk uid mismatches
2) from the Wipe menu option complete a)Wipe data/factory reset b)Wipe Dalvik-cache c)Wipe SD:ext partition
Apps2sd and Cache2sd Basics
When you run the apps2sd or cache2sd script, upon reboot, it will move ALL your existing apps or cache to the sd card ext partition and ALL future apps and cache will be installed and stored on the sd card ext partition.
Running the apps2internal or cache2internal script, upon reboot, it will move ALL your existing apps or cache to the /data block of internal storage and ALL futures apps and cache will be stored in internal storage.
With HTC based ROMs it is all or nothing and you cannot move individual apps like in the CyanogenMod ROMs.
So how do I know Apps2sd is on? - You can run the GScript report_system_stats which will give you a printout of what fileblocks are used as well as a “true/false” value for Apps2sd On. You can also go to menu>Settings>Sd card and phone storage - when on space available under Available storage will go down at a VERY slow rate when new apps are installed.
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KnightRid said:
I use advanced app killer but i do not let that run all the time, I just start it when I want to manually kill apps.
It is just so weird with tweetdeck not updating in the background right, except on xtrsense. I just dont get it
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It works fine for me on xtrSENSE. Try uninstalling advanced app killer for a while and see if tweetdeck works better. Also, run the gscript set_memory_balanced or set_memory_stock. I have had Tweetdeck work just fine in xtrSENSE4.6.5 with both of those settings.
doogald said:
That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
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I did not explain well, I did do that but the apps still would not move over. I thought i had to manually move the apps after the ext3 partition and such but there must be something little I am missing. I will go back through the steps again and see what happens. I still like how 2.2 and 2.3 move the apps a lot better and I wish xtrsense would be based on 2.2 or 2.3
As for tweetdeck, it DOES work right in xtrsense just not in any other rom even the stock rom.
KnightRid said:
I did not explain well, I did do that but the apps still would not move over. I thought i had to manually move the apps after the ext3 partition and such but there must be something little I am missing.
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When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
I will go back through the steps again and see what happens. I still like how 2.2 and 2.3 move the apps a lot better and I wish xtrsense would be based on 2.2 or 2.3
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To be honest, I think that this method is better. For one thing, you can back up your ext partition on your SD card; unless you use Clockwork, you cannot backup .android_secure. Also, when you connect your SD card to your computer, it dismounts the SD card from the phone, making those apps unavailable until you re-mount the SD card to the phone. Because you cannot dismount the ext3 partition (without trying really hard, that is), your apps are always available. Widgets can run from those apps. Lastly, there is no this app is internal, that app is on SD - they are either all on SD or they are not. Plus, of course, you don't have to move apps one at a time.
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When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
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Yea, it just doesnt move anything for some reason - Really isnt that big of a deal just would be nice with me being a packrat for everything so I wouldnt have to uninstall as often lol
Thanx for the help!
I am still wishing and hoping for xtrsense based on 2.2 or 2.3 though =)
doogald said:
That's not how it works with xtrSENSE. With xtrSENSE, you first need to partition your SD card to add an ext3 partition to store your apps. Then, as you noted, you run a gscript to activate apps2sd. This will move *all* of your user apps to the ext partition - you cannot choose to keep some internal. You either have your apps internal and not on SD, or you have your apps on SD and not internal.
The original post in the xtrSENSE thread explains this pretty well. The relevant portions are here:
Note the parts that I bolded.
It works fine for me on xtrSENSE. Try uninstalling advanced app killer for a while and see if tweetdeck works better. Also, run the gscript set_memory_balanced or set_memory_stock. I have had Tweetdeck work just fine in xtrSENSE4.6.5 with both of those settings.
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There's an app called Link2SD which allows you to use old-school Apps2SD with the ability to only move what you want to move. Haven't tried it but reports are positive about it. Creates symlinks or some such for individual apps instead of for the whole data/app folder at once.
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When you run that gscript that I highlighted above (report_system_stats), does it say that you have apps2sd enabled? If it does, then you do. After you partition your card and run the gscript to enable apps2sd (called apps2sd), there is nothing that you need to do manually - the apps will move to SD. All new apps that you install will go to SD. You cannot pick and choose - apps are either on SD or internal.
To be honest, I think that this method is better. For one thing, you can back up your ext partition on your SD card; unless you use Clockwork, you cannot backup .android_secure. Also, when you connect your SD card to your computer, it dismounts the SD card from the phone, making those apps unavailable until you re-mount the SD card to the phone. Because you cannot dismount the ext3 partition (without trying really hard, that is), your apps are always available. Widgets can run from those apps. Lastly, there is no this app is internal, that app is on SD - they are either all on SD or they are not. Plus, of course, you don't have to move apps one at a time.
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There's a couple of apps on the market, Dual Mount SD (used to be called SD Share, I think) and Multi Mount SD, which now, not only allow you to mount your SD card to both your computer and your phone at the same time, they also both have the option to auto-mount your SD card to your computer when you plug it in to the USB cable, which is now what I do. Multi Mount SD had that feature first, Dual Mount SD copied it just recently.
Also, Titanium Backup (paid, don't know about the free version) will allow you to batch move as many apps as you like to and from the SD card.
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There's a couple of apps on the market, Dual Mount SD (used to be called SD Share, I think) and Multi Mount SD, which now, not only allow you to mount your SD card to both your computer and your phone at the same time, they also both have the option to auto-mount your SD card to your computer when you plug it in to the USB cable, which is now what I do. Multi Mount SD had that feature first, Dual Mount SD copied it just recently.
Also, Titanium Backup (paid, don't know about the free version) will allow you to batch move as many apps as you like to and from the SD card.
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Good to know, but I still like the "old school" apps2sd kludge more than the official kludge that Google added with Froyo. I've had more problems with apps2sd (when I tried it) with Froyo than I ever had with xtrROM before cache2cache was added to that ROM.
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Good to know, but I still like the "old school" apps2sd kludge more than the official kludge that Google added with Froyo. I've had more problems with apps2sd (when I tried it) with Froyo than I ever had with xtrROM before cache2cache was added to that ROM.
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The absolutely only thing I don't like about, now that Link2SD is out, is that it's difficult to use the old Apps2SD under Froyo and beyond, requiring special partitioning arrangements, concerning where the particular partitions are and making it difficult to mount all the Fat32 partitions to both the phone and the computer, unless there's been progress in those areas I haven't been made aware of.
Even though there's some things which won't move to the SD card in a friendly way with Froyo's move to SD, almost everything will move if you use an app such as Titanium Backup to move them. As I said, there's still some apps it won't move but it moves almost all of them for me. I guess I wouldn't like it if I was stuck with Google implementation of it, but as long as there are third party apps to make up what it's lacking, it works great for me.
I also like that since I "only" have an 8GB SD card, that I don't have to partition it, the apps that are moved to SD will only take up as much space as they need to, no partition with space that'll never get used because I want it at least large enough to cover my worst case scenarios.
Off topic, it's unbelievable how much "crap" I get on my SD card, from all the apps I've stopped using but never deleted any respective folders for from the card. Mostly because I replaced the app with something better.
I've been searching and reading various answers on the subject on different phones, but I wanted to know what worked best for Aria owners.
I've done the following:
1. using Cyanogen 7.1.0 factory reset the phone.
2. formatted the SD card to have a fat partition, ext partition and swap partition.
3. installed s2e and moved the checked the apps, private apps and dalvik cache to sd.
4. checked the 'Internal' on the storage location in the application settings.
5. Installed apps everything worked fine for a couple of days.
I've rebooted the phone today and all the apps I've installed on the SD card are gone, they don't appear in the drawer. Also all of their icons are switched to generic android icons.
I've read on different forums it's got to do with the launched running before the SD card is mounted on boot. some recommend moving back the apps to the SD, but I can't do that since I've got no access to S2E, and I have to use the SD card anyway since phone memory is so small. Also many of the threads were old so I've thought something may have been changed on new Android versions.
Is there any way to solve this? I don't have access to the market so I can't install anything from it.
I'd suggest moving only application and dalvik cache (not private apps) to see if it makes a difference.
Is your partition formatted as ext3 or ext4? Are you using the "mount as ext4" option in S2E?
partition formatted as ext3 and I've used mount as ext4.
is it preferable to format it to ext4?
how can private apps can cause a problem here?
I've now wiped the phone, re installed Cyanogen and Google apps.
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how can private apps can cause a problem here?
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I don't think it's the cause, but I'm just trying to eliminate anything that is different from the way I've set it up on my phone since I don't have that problem.
Personally I use an ext3 partition without the "mount as ext4" setting enabled. Perhaps that setting is causing your problems.
did you install the rom, apps and the s2e, or you install the rom, s2e and then started installing apps?
are you using the default adwlauncher or did you switched to a different launcher?
When I do a clean install I install apps before and after enabling S2E. It doesn't make a difference.
I've used several different launchers (including ADW EX) but not the built-in one.
do you enable in settings - Cyanogenmod settings - applications the following:
allow application moving - checked
install location - I select internal instead of automatic.
"Allow application moving" unchecked. That setting only makes it possible to move any application to the FAT32 partition, which you shouldn't be using at all.
Are you manually moving applications to SD card in application settings or something?
Maybe that's were the problem is. and you have the setting of install location on "Automatic" or on "Internal" ?
Please read this post where I explain the proper way to set up S2E when using it to move applications: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21667779&postcount=5
When you are selecting "move to SD" from the applications settings, you are moving the application to the FAT32 partition, which is NOT what you want. On its own, this wouldn't cause any applications to stop working though. However, since you enabled the "Allow application moving" setting, that forces the phone to allow you to move any app to the FAT32 partition, even if that app does not support it. When you move apps to the FAT32 partition that don't support it, those apps will stop working.
thx for the explanation.
If I'm setting up the s2e before installing any app, I can skip step no 4 as I understand it.
is there a real difference in performance/compatibility to the file system on the ext partition? I see threads here that mention that ext4 work without any problem.
should I format the card to ext2/ext3 or ext4 ?
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thx for the explanation.
If I'm setting up the s2e before installing any app, I can skip step no 4 as I understand it.
is there a real difference in performance/compatibility to the file system on the ext partition? I see threads here that mention that ext4 work without any problem.
should I format the card to ext2/ext3 or ext4 ?
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ext4 should work fine. I only suggested moving to ext3 because you were having problems, but it sounds like that was unrelated.
Ok. I've formatted the card with gparted, wiped the phone, but no matter what I did S2E didn't show the Ext partition. I've finally used rom manager to partition the card and it worked fine.
I've checked the setting as you've recommended, and so far it seems fine. I'll have to wait and see if it doesn't shows up again after several more reboots.
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I've rebooted the phone today and all the apps I've installed on the SD card are gone, they don't appear in the drawer. Also all of their icons are switched to generic android icons.
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same with me after installing battery script that wipe the Dalvik Cache
i thought that was the problem
i did reinstall everything and still waiting to see
read the entire thread, my problem was completely solved.
I am having this issue also - I goofed and checked the 'mount as ext4' for an ext3 partition. Now I can't see any apps, including the S2E app to uncheck it or the Play store app to download another copy so I can fix it.
Any suggestions how to correct? I can't even boot into recovery mode to reflash at the moment...
Using CM7.2.0RC1 on an HTC Incredible.
What about reflashing recovery through fastboot?
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Any suggestions how to correct? I can't even boot into recovery mode to reflash at the moment...
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Boot to recovery with SD card removed, and/or reformat the ext partition of the SD card from a computer.
Fast Boot option may be the culprit
I see folks here are deep into ext3/ext4 partitions and such (or at least you were a few months ago), and I hope it all works out great for you.
Just in case, here is a simple little fix that really helped me, without resorting to all the partitioning and reinstallation going on here.
Also, for what it's worth, I used ROM Manager Pro to auto-format the special "ext" partition on my sdcard when it was pristine, and since then have used Titanium Backup Pro to move apps to SD AFTER installing via Google Play Store or very occasionally side-installing .apk files.
CUT TO THE SOLUTION BELOW -- SEARCH FOR ////
Some (not all) of my apps moved to SD (all by Titanium Backup Pro) have begun to disappear and (sometimes) reappear without warning after I began to add and delete large Virtual Machines created in QEMU from my 16GB SanDisc class 10 microSD card on my HTC Droid Incredible running rooted stock Verizon Android Froyo 2.2.3. I know this thread is far from my phone's "home base", but from what I can tell this problem with disappearing apps located on an sdcard is NOT determined by hardware or even Android version.
I also happen to use LauncherPro by Federico Carnales instead of the built-in HTC Sense launcher. I noted elsewhere on XDA that a user had suggested that because at least some (maybe all) launchers start before the SD Card that this may be a problem, especially if changes are made to the sdcard that the launcher did not perform, or was not active during their performance by other apps such as Titanium Backup. That fits my situation, because I unmounted the SD, physically removed it to a PC, and added/deleted large VM files to save (lots) of time. No problems of this sort before I did this, so there must be some connection.
I noted that other users have tried reformatting SD, substituting different brands of SD, using newer/older SD etc. None of these reliably helped. So I skipped these options.
//// The (simple!) solution I tried that SEEMS to work (only time will tell!) is buried in the main Android Settings (accessed from the Menu button while in Home screen). Under "Applications" there is a setting "Fast Boot" that I checked long ago and forgot about (it seemed like a good thing to do at the time). The text warns "Turn off to use some Market apps" (that shows the age of my 2-yr old used phone and Android OS -- ohmygosh!-- because it refers to Market rather than Google Play Store!) Anyway, I unchecked the option and rebooted the phone.
Yes, it took a bit longer to boot (maybe a whole minute!), but after waiting about another minute ALL my home screen apps had normal icons and loaded properly. Titanium Backup Pro batch scenarios confirmed there were no apps in a forced uninstalled state (i.e. I had not done the deed, the system somehow had done it or at least rendered the apps "invisible" to Titanium, which decided they needed reinstallation).
The only odd behaviour was that auto brightness was turned off after I unchecked Fast Boot and rebooted. Going into Android Settings > Display and rechecking "auto brightness" took care of that. No other oddities or strange behaviours thus far (but it has only been about an hour).
I will report back here on this thread only (Samsung Fascinate > Fascinate Q&A > What just happend? apps on sdcard) if anything else requires reporting. Silence implies success!
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1873670
(I am copying this post to other relevant threads, but will not post anything further elsewhere -- only there. This is a bit arbitrary (although this thread appears to be the most recent active one on this topic), but I hope this approach pleases the XDA sysops/admins) :angel:
I cant still solve this :'(
in my s2e :Application,Private apps are checked! Im using ext3..
Install location is also on internal.. pls help :'((
Hi there,
I've got a problem.
After I moved some apps to SD Card (using Link2SD or Titanium Backup), they are gone from home screen, app drawer list,and even in the list of installed apps they still missing. However, the files are still in disk but for some reasons, the OS cant detect them.
They only came back (to home screen and app drawer) after I perform Hot Boot.
Could you please explain why that was happening?
And how to avoid that problem?
I am using 4.1.2 Wanamlite XWLSW and Philz kernel 5.06.
Thanks,
I'm not really familiar with moving apps to other storages. But I'd recommend you to leave them where they are. Our SGS2 has storage for hundreds of apps. Plus they are slower if you move them and widgets won't work anymore.
Edit: Almost forgot about that: Big games automatically store their data on sd-card so there's no need to move them since the apps size itself is rather small
Move app using stock function setting》applications》select app》move to sd card
Send from my SGS2 I9100 with HassanROM and latest DorimanX 8.xx kernel
experience7 said:
I'm not really familiar with moving apps to other storages. But I'd recommend you to leave them where they are. Our SGS2 has storage for hundreds of apps. Plus they are slower if you move them and widgets won't work anymore.
Edit: Almost forgot about that: Big games automatically store their data on sd-card so there's no need to move them since the apps size itself is rather small
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Thanks, but if I dont move them, my Internal storage will be empty and I cant do some of basic functions (ex: take camera pictures, download documents, take screenshots, etc). Moving apps gives me some space in internal storage (maybe around 100 MB).
krazy1101 said:
Move app using stock function setting》applications》select app》move to sd card
Send from my SGS2 I9100 with HassanROM and latest DorimanX 8.xx kernel
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I tried that but still doesnt work.
I tried using Link2SD and Titanium Backup, but after reboot normally, they are still gone. I tried Smart Launcher, but they stil didnt appear. Because they were listed as uninstalled. The files are there, but the system doesnt load them. Must still do hot reboot first before the system loads them.
I guess I'll take 1 example for disappearing app, this information taken from Link2SD (after Hot Boot):
Temple Run 2 Version 1.2.1 (on SD Card)
http://i.imgur.com/A9FHzpi.png
What actually Hot Boot does and normal reboot does not?
undead_assault said:
Thanks, but if I dont move them, my Internal storage will be empty and I cant do some of basic functions (ex: take camera pictures, download documents, take screenshots, etc). Moving apps gives me some space in internal storage (maybe around 100 MB).
I tried that but still doesnt work.
I tried using Link2SD and Titanium Backup, but after reboot normally, they are still gone. I tried Smart Launcher, but they stil didnt appear. Because they were listed as uninstalled. The files are there, but the system doesnt load them. Must still do hot reboot first before the system loads them.
I guess I'll take 1 example for disappearing app, this information taken from Link2SD (after Hot Boot):
Temple Run 2 Version 1.2.1 (on SD Card)
http://i.imgur.com/A9FHzpi.png
What actually Hot Boot does and normal reboot does not?
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JB manages Memory in a diff way compared to ICS or GB, so its always better to have the apps where they get installed, rather than moving them to elsewhere and face trouble
Sun90 said:
JB manages Memory in a diff way compared to ICS or GB, so its always better to have the apps where they get installed, rather than moving them to elsewhere and face trouble
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But it looks like every apps installs themselves in internal storage (even app that uses big APK size), so soon or later my internal storage will be full. Is there any workaround about that?
Thanks
undead_assault said:
But it looks like every apps installs themselves in internal storage (even app that uses big APK size), so soon or later my internal storage will be full. Is there any workaround about that?
Thanks
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just open settings>manage apps and under 'All' tab u can tap on the app and see whether u can move that app to 'sdcard' or not, if its there then u can do it else its better to leave it.
since moving apps to sdcard using third party apps from stores, will always bring issue's for u, rather than resolving the storage problem