I know we don't have any ICS kernel sources yet but do you think we will get ICS before this August?
I thought I read somewhere that we were getting it in the next month or two. I would assume we would have a good working ICS port at the least in the next month or two. Can't speak for the devs here, but I thought that's what we were looking at. As for when ATT will push it out, that could be forever...I hate how long they take, but oh well.
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I know we don't have any ICS kernel sources yet but do you think we will get ICS before this August?
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do you think the cubs will win the world series this year? not likely but how will we know the answer either of these questions without official word...
tennockey said:
I thought I read somewhere that we were getting it in the next month or two. I would assume we would have a good working ICS port at the least in the next month or two. Can't speak for the devs here, but I thought that's what we were looking at. As for when ATT will push it out, that could be forever...I hate how long they take, but oh well.
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No, you're thinking about the i9100, not the i777
I'm sorry but just go and get a galaxy nexus ...no matter how good those roms are for all the other phones....there's no full ics google experience guaranteed on them other phones.....that's in my opinion
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njd15 said:
I'm sorry but just go and get a galaxy nexus ...no matter how good those roms are for all the other phones....there's no full ics google experience guaranteed on them other phones.....that's in my opinion
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The only thing you're gaining by going to the Galaxy Nexus is a better screen and NFC. I dont understand why people switch phones over Android versions.
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i'm a noob, but
Didn't I just read that if you remove the AT&T logo, you get ics automatically?
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The only thing you're gaining by going to the Galaxy Nexus is a better screen and NFC. I dont understand why people switch phones over Android versions.
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Having used ICS on the captivate, it truly is an update worth switching devices for. However, I'm pretty happy with the I777 so I will just wait. Android updates that were actually really good: Froyo, Honeycomb, and ICS. The rest were just hyped too damn much and gingerbread is the worst of all of them (imho).
Wow. Use the sticky thread.
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trell959 said:
The only thing you're gaining by going to the Galaxy Nexus is a better screen and NFC. I dont understand why people switch phones over Android versions.
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For one, it's not just ICS when Jellybean comes out, you're going to get it much quicker than anyone else. And also, it's the purest form of the Android version minus any bloatware each manufacturer puts on the phone, which can be either a pro or a con, but overall, the bloatware has been a con in the past.
IMO, Gingerbread was a very good update, Froyo didn't seem that special when I finally got it for my S7. The biggest improvement was non-broken radio firmware, which had nothing to do with Android version.
Gingerbread had significant power management improvements.
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Didn't I just read that if you remove the AT&T logo, you get ics automatically?
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Im still trying to rub it off!
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Tired of waiting!!!!
I love and appreciate all the work that the Devs have done for our phone, but if we don't get ICS soon I will be leaving this phone. A lot of my friends have phones with ICS roms and it is such a improvement over GB. I don't understand how one and two year old phones have ICS and Samsung won't allow us to have it. It is ridiculous.
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I love and appreciate all the work that the Devs have done for our phone, but if we don't get ICS soon I will be leaving this phone. A lot of my friends have phones with ICS roms and it is such a improvement over GB. I don't understand how one and two year old phones have ICS and Samsung won't allow us to have it. It is ridiculous.
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I mean I understand sorta, but it doesn't help to threaten the devs that if they don't do what you want you will leave. Tbh, I don't think any dev really cares.
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I mean I understand sorta, but it doesn't help to threaten the devs that if they don't do what you want you will leave. Tbh, I don't think any dev really cares.
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I am not threatening the devs at all. I am sick of Samsung not the devs. Read a little more careful next time.
chadrick.7 said:
I love and appreciate all the work that the Devs have done for our phone, but if we don't get ICS soon I will be leaving this phone. A lot of my friends have phones with ICS roms and it is such a improvement over GB. I don't understand how one and two year old phones have ICS and Samsung won't allow us to have it. It is ridiculous.
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I keep hearing about source being released within the next month, just wait it out
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I keep hearing about source being released within the next month, just wait it out
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I am really trying!!!
chadrick.7 said:
I love and appreciate all the work that the Devs have done for our phone, but if we don't get ICS soon I will be leaving this phone. A lot of my friends have phones with ICS roms and it is such a improvement over GB. I don't understand how one and two year old phones have ICS and Samsung won't allow us to have it. It is ridiculous.
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What the hell is your problem? Name one phone other than the Nexus line that has received ICS officially.
HTC hasn't released any updates yet.
Motorola hasn't released any updates yet.
Sony has only released betas (I applaud them for putting out prereleases)
Asus has only pushed it to one tablet (easier to port HC tablets due to HC being a newer codebase and not having to deal with the RIL) and that was an utter disaster
So far, my experience with ICS is that it's not an improvement over Gingerbread. I haven't been able to see any significant positive improvement - some parts of the UI are a bit shinier, but the gapps user interface is clunker than it was in GB. ICS has some good improvements on tablets, but for phones - not so nice.
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What the hell is your problem? Name one phone other than the Nexus line that has received ICS officially.
HTC hasn't released any updates yet.
Motorola hasn't released any updates yet.
Sony has only released betas (I applaud them for putting out prereleases)
Asus has only pushed it to one tablet (easier to port HC tablets due to HC being a newer codebase and not having to deal with the RIL) and that was an utter disaster
So far, my experience with ICS is that it's not an improvement over Gingerbread. I haven't been able to see any significant positive improvement - some parts of the UI are a bit shinier, but the gapps user interface is clunker than it was in GB. ICS has some good improvements on tablets, but for phones - not so nice.
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First of all I said that I APPRECIATE the devs!!!! And I never said that the roms were official. Almost all HTC and LG phones have ICS roms. I left t-mobile with the htc sensation and believe me that phone runs 300% better now that it is running ICS. And by the way Entropy it is no disrespect to any dev by what I said, I am rocking your Kernel right now (Excellent job). I am pissed at Samsung and them only. Our phone is supposed to be a flagship phone so what the hell is the holdup?
If you can't wait then just go get the G Nexus. These questions have been brought up and beaten to death. Just don't be surprised when Ics finally drops for our device and our Roms are superior than most. GS2 surely has the hardware to run prety much anything smoothly and dev community is strong here
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This thread is useless. Now on to something more important. When will we get jelly bean? I can't wait.
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Ok makes me wonder how much love'n our GS2's are going to get as far as updates?
The Skyrocket came out with 2.3.5 and just got 2.3.6, and we are still on 2.3.4. Also the Euro version of the GS2 are always being updated and I think there are 2.3.6 builds out for it.
I'm confident that we wil get ICS next year, but it would be nice to get the latest Gingerbread while we are waiting.
I know a lot of people on here flash custom ROMs, but there are also many people like me who don't flash ROMs and find the stock ROM just fine.
Makes me wonder if it is AT&T again holding up updates or Samsung.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353513
They're just numbers... what really changes between 2.3.4 - 2.3.6.
Wait for ICS
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They're just numbers... what really changes between 2.3.4 - 2.3.6.
Wait for ICS
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+1.
Besides, we have our 2.3.6 official ROM leak for a while now. What matters is who gonna get ICS first, leaks or official.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1353513
They're just numbers... what really changes between 2.3.4 - 2.3.6.
Wait for ICS
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Well obviously something is different being as it's 2 newer version numbers.
Of course I'm not sure what that is. But it is nice to be up to date on things.
correct me if I'm wrong but just because one phone has two revisions "newer" than another phone doesnt mean its better. It just means it had more bugs to fix.
nyydynasty said:
correct me if I'm wrong but just because one phone has two revisions "newer" than another phone doesnt mean its better. It just means it had more bugs to fix.
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Sounds right. This is just a bugfix with the updated OS. Samsung knows the Skyrocket doesn't get as much love from the community either, so they have to fill in the gaps.
Not every Android OS updates are better than older version. 2.3.5 broke something (Voice search IIRC) and 2.3.6 is released to fix it.
Besides, the real reason AT&T/Samsung rush 2.3.6 updates for Skyrocket is because there is a wide spread internet connection issue with Skyrockets on non-LTE areas.
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correct me if I'm wrong but just because one phone has two revisions "newer" than another phone doesnt mean its better. It just means it had more bugs to fix.
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I am pretty sure you are exactly correct. I've read that the 2.3.6 was rushed into production on the Skyrocket to address some major bugs in the original release. Apparently there were a bunch of problems with Google Voice integration and the Android voice search feature, both of which work fine on our phones.
Most likely just because that new bug with powervr and privileges escalation they got the update to patch that.
We don't have the same hardware as skyrocket to we aren't affected therefore no patch for us.
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LGSilva said:
Most likely just because that new bug with powervr and privileges escalation they got the update to patch that.
We don't have the same hardware as skyrocket to we aren't affected therefore no patch for us.
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Yeah this is pretty much the deal...although he is not my friend... a manager at AT&T who I am pretty cool with said they have had the update lined up since the 3rd day the phone was released.....it was all bug fixes.
chocodough said:
Ok makes me wonder how much love'n our GS2's are going to get as far as updates?
The Skyrocket came out with 2.3.5 and just got 2.3.6, and we are still on 2.3.4. Also the Euro version of the GS2 are always being updated and I think there are 2.3.6 builds out for it.
I'm confident that we wil get ICS next year, but it would be nice to get the latest Gingerbread while we are waiting.
I know a lot of people on here flash custom ROMs, but there are also many people like me who don't flash ROMs and find the stock ROM just fine.
Makes me wonder if it is AT&T again holding up updates or Samsung.
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Believe it or not, the 2.3.5 or 2.3.6 was updated by Samsung to tie into the whole APPLE vs/ Samsung legal lawsuit overseas... Apple won the suit and Samsung had to CHANGE touchwiz to avoid patent infringement on Apple's intellectual property. It was either SIDE or VERITCAL scrolling that had to get nerfed... Be thankful we didn't get hit with it yet...
Other than the SCROLL change, I don't think there is a MAJOR change from 2.3.4 on GS2 vs. 2.3.5/2.3.6 on Skyrocket...!
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Believe it or not, the 2.3.5 or 2.3.6 was updated by Samsung to tie into the whole APPLE vs/ Samsung legal lawsuit overseas... Apple won the suit and Samsung had to CHANGE touchwiz to avoid patent infringement on Apple's intellectual property. It was either SIDE or VERITCAL scrolling that had to get nerfed... Be thankful we didn't get hit with it yet...
Other than the SCROLL change, I don't think there is a MAJOR change from 2.3.4 on GS2 vs. 2.3.5/2.3.6 on Skyrocket...!
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Wrong. The skyrockets was only release in north America, lawsuit doesn't affect us osgs2 or skyrocket. The data Issue was fix by at&t a week ago no software needed. There is an update from 2.3.5- 2.3.6 notice nothing new there but the phone feels smoother to me. At&t update priority is more on the skyrocket. Not that ya need it anyways. also as of today the vivid and the skyrocket are the only at&t phones officially getting ICS. You guys might never get an official ICS update.
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Sounds like your really proud to have a sky rocket, i'm glad I don't... I'll take a unofficial ics over stock any day...
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blaker13 said:
Sounds like your really proud to have a sky rocket, i'm glad I don't... I'll take a unofficial ics over stock any day...
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Haha
Same, but the Note is getting offical ICS
Have fun getting throttled after a couple days, ****rocketers!
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Wrong. The skyrockets was only release in north America, lawsuit doesn't affect us osgs2 or skyrocket. The data Issue was fix by at&t a week ago no software needed. There is an update from 2.3.5- 2.3.6 notice nothing new there but the phone feels smoother to me. At&t update priority is more on the skyrocket. Not that ya need it anyways. also as of today the vivid and the skyrocket are the only at&t phones officially getting ICS. You guys might never get an official ICS update.
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HAHAHA LOL.
You might, if you're lucky, get ICS by the end of 2012. (Look at how long it's taking the Captivate and Infuse to get Gingerbread.)
Same for us, HOWEVER unlike you we can pull ICS from the I9100. You're just AT&T's helpless ***** when it comes to waiting for updates.
Entropy512 said:
HAHAHA LOL.
You might, if you're lucky, get ICS by the end of 2012. (Look at how long it's taking the Captivate and Infuse to get Gingerbread.)
Same for us, HOWEVER unlike you we can pull ICS from the I9100. You're just AT&T's helpless ***** when it comes to waiting for updates.
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Dude yous a Hater big time. Me honestly give 2 **** about ICS. I switch my phone every 6 months or when I feel like it and that's that. If I really wanted ICS I'll order a Galaxy Nexus as we speak. On another note yours international SGS2 helpless ***** .
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anybody placing bets on when the OG SGSII gets an update?
Anyone taking bets that Dxtra's lack of vocabulary and debating skills will get this thread locked?
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anybody placing bets on when the OG SGSII gets an update?
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And yeah, if I were a betting person I'd say $50 ogSGSII gets ics between January/February. Official at least
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Dxtra said:
Dude yous a Hater big time. Me honestly give 2 **** about ICS. I switch my phone every 6 months or when I feel like it and that's that. If I really wanted ICS I'll order a Galaxy Nexus as we speak. On another note yours international SGS2 helpless ***** .
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Lol, sounds like you have inadequacy issues. Are you a Dev? A regular who helps the community? A person with basic writing skills? No? Then this community cares not for your trolling. Either make a useful comment or please don't post. If you have something to say that helps the group please contribute, but please don't think that if you don't have enough knowledge to actually say anything intelligent that anyone is going to care when you start spreading hate........
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Read here
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...ng-GALAXY-Note-instead-of-Android-4.0_id27693
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I actually wouldnt mind skipping ics and getting jellybean instead
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A long time ago, Samsung promised to release an additional update wih more S-Pen software and better functionality. I dont remember when, but it was at least a few weeks ago. Search aound and youll find it. Angry Birds space isnt an update. Its a completely new game. Just like Rovio does whenever it has a new theme...Rio...Seasons...you get the idea. So unless the Korean translations were crap (Sammy is known for their terrifying translations...remember the galaxy tab site?) this means that there will be a software update (either a ROM or a update for the S-Memo type apps) and a new "suite" of apps that we'll get from the Samsung app store that'll include a note specific version of Angry Birds space with a free bonus episode and(that others will have to purchase via in app purchasing), and a note-only bonus level.
In short...Samsung never once mentioned anything along the lines of a "value pack"...in fact, on the contrary. This is speak of a galactic update.
Not to mention the fact that there are already official ICS ROM leaks...and Samsung has announced the update already for couple countries.
If you had read the article and checked the source,you'd know that there is actually 0 evidence of this.
Weird logical leap. Note will get ICS.
They're skipping ICS and going to blow everyone away with JellyBean. Right?
It would be stupid for them to not release ICS for the note or the galaxy S II phones all these phones have great specs for running ICS. Besides if they don't release it there will be many roms available
Canadian carriers clearly show ICS available 2012 would really suck if they lie.
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Remember the post refers to the international Note, and the International Note already has leaked ICS. So likely it will get official ICS.
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it is coming. just don't know when.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcoW7sh-FBk#t=02m40s
stulzerl said:
it is coming. just don't know when.
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Broken Link bud.
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stulzerl said:
it is coming. just don't know when.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcoW7sh-FBk#t=02m40s
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Sigh. =/ can you update us?
I don't have good news but I can share what the experience was for us Samsung Infuse 4g users.
We all started with Froyo and the promise of a Ginger Bread update. Here we are many months later still on Froyo. There was an official Update to Ginger Bread in the beginning of February that was promptly pulled because of all the issues it had.
When I saw that the note was supposed to be released with Ginger Bread with the promise of an ICS update ... I was stunned at the similarity of what Samsung was doing. I am almost certain we even got an Angry Birds update somewhere in August... yet we still to this date have Froyo.
With this in mind and the Fact that Samsung isnt being a speedy updater.. I would suggest moving forward and making the most of what you have right now.
I hope they release your ICS soon but the fact that there are leaks means nothing...we have had Ginger Bread leaks since october last year. Thus it is no indication of an official release. It is more like small teases to keep us on the string.
On the bright side we have had several great devs over at the Infuse 4g forums that made our lives a little easier. Taking the GB leaks and developing ROMs. Most of the ROMs were great and were indeed GB based ROMs. There were a couple of issues however. No Bluetooth and HDMI support as the kernels the devs had to work with didn't support them for some reason. I am sure they explained it a million times.. LOL.
Dman ... who developed several great ROMs and a few ports.. was amazing. I heard he now had a gnote. So cross your fingers that he will be doing some great work here as well.
To sum up...
Don't get in a hurry for an Update to ICS. Don't believe what Samsung or ATT says about Samsung updates PERIOD.
Myself....I will be holding out for the note until I see an official ICS.
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This is why I have ALWAYS been so shy about going to a Samsung phone.
Good thing is, if something with similar hardware releases with ICS, we'll have the drivers we need and we can just Root and jump on the ROM train.
That's why I decided on Samsung this time around.
Talderon said:
This is why I have ALWAYS been so shy about going to a Samsung phone.
Good thing is, if something with similar hardware releases with ICS, we'll have the drivers we need and we can just Root and jump on the ROM train.
That's why I decided on Samsung this time around.
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everything changed with LTE coming to ATT...if there was no LTE in ATT note or International Gnote also had LTE, then i am sure we could port Int Gnote's rom....
Thats what happened with Captivate...
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everything changed with LTE coming to ATT...if there was no LTE in ATT note or International Gnote also had LTE, then i am sure we could port Int Gnote's rom....
Thats what happened with Captivate...
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I don't doubt there will be ports or anything. That's the main factor that got me to go ahead with this phone, the great community here at XDA!!
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I don't doubt there will be ports or anything. That's the main factor that got me to go ahead with this phone, the great community here at XDA!!
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There won't be ports.. they're completely different devices :/
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Cool we have confirmation of ics!
For US phones, basically unless you get one of the Nexus phones, you should never expect to get any timely OTA updates. It's still mostly the US phone carriers to blame more so than the phone vendors themselves. Like I'm sure Samsung isn't actually intentionally delaying ICS forever on purpose.
it is coming in may
Read this on a couple of tech sites. Very disappointed. I was under the impression that the wait for ICS wasn't gonna be that long. That was a big factor in getting the note. Would have held out for a quad core with ICS already on it if I knew it was gonna be this long. I love my note and it's sad that att's flagship android device doesn't have the latest version of android. Plus I think ics will smooth out alot of the lagginess owners have been reporting.
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just read this on gsmarena and I am bummed if this is for the US too... I may have to go ahead an install SAUROM in the meantime
What?! Link liars!
ICS is a major battery drain anyway.
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Truaim said:
What?! Link liars!
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I believe that this is what the OP is referring to:
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AndroidPolice/~3/8Efjssn8-lQ/story01.htm
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As I said in many other threads that ICS is nowhere near coming yet.....and people actually thought it was coming this month lol. With the way froyo came and gingerbread to follow should of been your first clue, if you actually thought they were gonna pop out ICS just like that that's the stupidity on your part. Remember folks the word was 'its slated for the note', Never said When!
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ICS is a major battery drain anyway.
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ICS upped my Xooms battery life by about 30%. I disagree.
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ICS wasn't coming until at least Q2 for the AT&T Note anyways. In fact, your ICS might be right on schedule.
The funny part is that this is for the International version. Meaning that we'll get ICS months after that
Like I've said all along, we won't see it untilled October at earliest. To op, you said u wouldn't have gotten the phone, then on the other hand you love it?????? Can't we stop worrying about ics, and enjoy this amazing device already! Dang people!
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Like I've said all along, we won't see it untilled October at earliest. To op, you said u wouldn't have gotten the phone, then on the other hand you love it?????? Can't we stop worrying about ics, and enjoy this amazing device already! Dang people!
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The reason is, once you ICS, you never want to go back, that's why I returned my note and stick with my nexus.
nystreak said:
Read this on a couple of tech sites. Very disappointed. I was under the impression that the wait for ICS wasn't gonna be that long. That was a big factor in getting the note. Would have held out for a quad core with ICS already on it if I knew it was gonna be this long. I love my note and it's sad that att's flagship android device doesn't have the latest version of android. Plus I think ics will smooth out alot of the lagginess owners have been reporting.
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So you'd get a device you like less because it'll have a software update a few months faster?
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What? Possibly in issolated cases or on crappy ROMs, but that is one hell of an arogant blanket statement to make on an OS that is just rolling out onto handsets the past couple months. I saw vast improvements with it in many aspects, to include battery.
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Like I've said all along, we won't see it untilled October at earliest. To op, you said u wouldn't have gotten the phone, then on the other hand you love it?????? Can't we stop worrying about ics, and enjoy this amazing device already! Dang people!
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^^This guys got a point. I will defend ICS tooth and nail, but you will rarely find me belly aching about it being on the note. I absolutely want it, but I didn't buy a phone with it already on it. I do expect ATT/Samsung to deliver it to us, but don't think we'll see it untill fall. Anything sooner will be a great surprise, anything later and I'll start complaining. If all I wanted was ICS then I would have kept my Vibrant.
Time to DIY
I saw that this morning and welp... time to flash a custom ROM -_-
I was holding off waiting for the official to get here 'later this month'. I am disappoint. Oh well... Its not hard to root anyway.
Waiting for the next o.s. update for your smartphone is a never ending game and hasn't changed.
It's not real smart to buy something HOPING it will get the next update sooner rather than later. WIth smartphones, you'll always be disappointed .
I'm running ICS on another device I have and it's not that big of a deal. I'd certainly like it on my Note but it's not something I'm waiting for with every breath.
totally untrusted source. there is no samsung norway official page+samsung norway does not speak english!! anyways the youtube video interview, that samsung executive guy who was answering questions, where it says comments, it was written that the att note will be getting the update in may
doesn't Q2 start in like 2 weeks?
So tired of the *****ing and crying over ics go and take your note back and get the nexus if you want ics so bad I'm am completely happy with my note
Me Too!
This phone works great on GB!
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totally untrusted source. there is no samsung norway official page+samsung norway does not speak english!! anyways the youtube video interview, that samsung executive guy who was answering questions, where it says comments, it was written that the att note will be getting the update in may
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Lol so you believe YouTube comments? If the executive said that he lied.
Will we see support? or is this solely going to be on our developers for this phone?
By AT&T? Highly doubtful.
Release a free update to JellyBean and NOT force us to buy a new phone in order to continue to be supported?
Silly.
the support we get from the developers here far exceeds the support we get from AT&T...
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Why doubt that AT&T will help us out? I'm sure if enough Galaxy II users call in and ask about an update it might happen. Wishful thinking but you never know.
dominuce00 said:
Why doubt that AT&T will help us out? I'm sure if enough Galaxy II users call in and ask about an update it might happen. Wishful thinking but you never know.
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Because at&t never liked to help us out
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dominuce00 said:
Why doubt that AT&T will help us out? I'm sure if enough Galaxy II users call in and ask about an update it might happen. Wishful thinking but you never know.
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because AT&T would rather sell you a new, subsidized device and rope you into a new 2 year contract than to use resources to push out an update that gets them zero income and might encourage some users to live out their two years and potentially go elsewhere...
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As JB source code was released yesterday, we should see devs attempting to port JB goodness on the i777. AT&T will not push our I777 to 4.1. Highly doubt AT&T would support this device anymore...
To be fair, the Captivate saw an upgrade from Eclair to GB.... though it took forever. So, I wouldn't say it's highly unlikely, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Lawrence of a Labia said:
To be fair, the Captivate saw an upgrade from Eclair to GB.... though it took forever. So, I wouldn't say it's highly unlikely, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Most people don't want to wait that long
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It's there is a major release, I think they will put it out for us (albeit late) but not this "minor" update.
Clay
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From AT&T officially, the SII already got its two free upgrades and that was from 2.3.4 to 2.3.6 then recently to 4.0.3 so AT&T is probably going to put the SII on EOL (end of life) soon as they move on to the SIII, HOX and AtrixHD.
From XDA, it will more than likely be supported for awhile as its still one of the best devices ever created.
Even if at&t came out with an official release (highly unlikely) it would still suck compared to the work done by our devs here
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dandrumheller said:
the support we get from the developers here far exceeds the support we get from AT&T...
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AT&T has already killed off the i777. You can only buy the skyrocket in stores now. They would rather you buy new than update old. Look how long it took our phone to get "official" ICS... Dandrumheller is totally right - our faithful devs are powerhouses compared to AT&T. While AT&T wants to sell us something, our devs want to help. i'm sure 4.1 will be ported, just give the devs time to make sure things work.
I agree! The developers are still moving forward with JB for the GS II and I am hopeful that in 2-3 weeks we will begin to see progress in geting a functioning JB based ROM for I777.
Dont bet on it
I highly doubt we'll get JB. Took far too long to get a rough version of ICS, and I know AT&T won't hesitate to make any attempt to get us to purchase new devices/contracts.
xamadeix said:
Will we see support? or is this solely going to be on our developers for this phone?
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Don't so sure, it might be a while, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28809953&postcount=43
Well I'm sure it'll be a while, but jelly bean isn't the huge upgrade that ics was. I mean it's a big jump, but imo(and that's all it is, my opinion)jellybean may be just a smoothing out and bug removal of whatever they couldn't get done in time to add into ics.
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Phalanx7621 said:
Well I'm sure it'll be a while, but jelly bean isn't the huge upgrade that ics was. I mean it's a big jump, but imo(and that's all it is, my opinion)jellybean may be just a smoothing out and bug removal of whatever they couldn't get done in time to add into ics.
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I would consider smoothing out and bug removal a significant update
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eep2378 said:
I would consider smoothing out and bug removal a significant update
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Why would you want to run a stock ROM from the phone company. There are good stable custom ROMs that are better, adopt features sooner, and have better support. For example, there's no better support you can get than from ShoStock2. If you have a question, and it's not abnormal, the developer generally answers you, one-on-one. If it's a real problem, and fixable, it will prob be fixed in a couple of weeks.
If you call ATT you have to get plassed to tier-2 then to an engineer who will prob say it will be fixed in the next release - which will be 12 months.
Why wouldn't you root your phone?? That's my question.
Umm, isn't that next month? Or later, cause aren't we suppose to be getting ics early q4
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A2CKilla said:
Umm, isn't that next month? Or later, cause aren't we suppose to be getting ics early q4
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We may never know. Maybe Moto could push the upgrade to 2013 so we will never get it because 2012-the end of the world is coming! Lol.
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New updated phone about to drop,probably be next year
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I think Moto will stick to the timeline they have posted. ICS has been in development for the Photon for a while now and from all I have read with the re-structuring of Moto Mobility it seems they are pushing to get devices on the latest Android releases. Sounds to me like Google wants Moto to get on an update schedule similar to what the Nexus devices are on. This should not be a problem with Moto not having to support so many devices in the future.
I do hope that if/when ICS does come to the Photon it is a better release than what other manufacturers have pushed out. Everyone I have heard from that has gotten ICS hates it and wants GB back. Of course the best bet is to wait until our developers get the proper drivers and incorporate the missing pieces into custom roms and run those.
Only thing I'm worried about is a permalocked boot loader ICS
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Only thing I'm worried about is a permalocked boot loader ICS
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Well....I think it is a good sign that the Photon Q is coming with an unlocked bootloader option right out of the box. At least that is what the Sprint guy in here posted.
Samsung Captivate Glide (same Tegra 2 chip) got its ICS leak.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831561
Maybe our devs will manage to pull drivers and other crap from that release?
maxon_yalta said:
Samsung Captivate Glide (same Tegra 2 chip) got its ICS leak.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831561
Maybe our devs will manage to pull drivers and other crap from that release?
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I would PM Joker or Th3Bill with that link, just in case they missed it.
i don't care whether we get the official ICS, or even the drivers from another phone as long as the drivers are taken, and can be used towards all of the problems with the custom ICS and JB roms i will be happy. Hopefully if we cant get drivers from another phone the official ICS will get rolled out soon.
This is a seriously dead topic that's been discussed over and over and over again. 12 months in a year, 4 quarters in a year. 12 divided by 4 is 3. Each quarter is three months long. Q3 ends with September. Q4 begins with October. Atrix ICS before end of September. Photon ICS before end of December. Atrix and photon = same hardware. Meaning, our jb and ICS ROMs will be perfectly stable shortly after the atrix ICS gets released.
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i was just about to say. Q4 starts in october
captivate ics wont really change terribly much. look at the xoom ics or even gtab 10.1. all used diff camera sensors/wrappers so sure the chipset is the same.. but the crap that is needed for stable isnt :/
unless something has drastically changed since the last time i talked to joker the camera was the last big hurdle?
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This is a seriously dead topic that's been discussed over and over and over again. 12 months in a year, 4 quarters in a year. 12 divided by 4 is 3. Each quarter is three months long. Q3 ends with September. Q4 begins with October. Atrix ICS before end of September. Photon ICS before end of December. Atrix and photon = same hardware. Meaning, our jb and ICS ROMs will be perfectly stable shortly after the atrix ICS gets released.
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thanks for answering the post, along with a little extra info
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i was just about to say. Q4 starts in october
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thanks for just answering my post
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thanks for answering the post, but being an a** at the same time -_-
thanks for just answering my post
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So if i would have left out that first sentence I wouldn't be an ass? It was a factual statement, not a shot at you. I see you actively contributing around here quite often, I was surprised that a regular such as yourself would start a thread posing a question in which there are many other threads that have the answer. A little reading wouldn't hurt is all im saying.
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So if i would have left out that first sentence I wouldn't be an ass? It was a factual statement, not a shot at you. I see you actively contributing around here quite often, I was surprised that a regular such as yourself would start a thread posing a question in which there are many other threads that have the answer. A little reading wouldn't hurt is all im saying.
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Well sir, I retract my statement, and issue an apology
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captivate ics wont really change terribly much. look at the xoom ics or even gtab 10.1. all used diff camera sensors/wrappers so sure the chipset is the same.. but the crap that is needed for stable isnt :/
unless something has drastically changed since the last time i talked to joker the camera was the last big hurdle?
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actually i read a discussion somewhere, they are not the same, cos tablets are based on Harmony board (tegra 250 T20), and mobiles on Ventana (tegra 250 AP20H) and some crappy little difference between them didnt let the devs do that.
shabbypenguin said:
captivate ics wont really change terribly much. look at the xoom ics or even gtab 10.1. all used diff camera sensors/wrappers so sure the chipset is the same.. but the crap that is needed for stable isnt :/
unless something has drastically changed since the last time i talked to joker the camera was the last big hurdle?
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Those tablets use a different type of Tegra 2, that's why. Photon/ Atrix= AP20H, Xoom/ Galaxy Tabs= T20. The captivate uses the same chip set as these Moto Tegra devices. People from the Atrix forums have started looking into the captivate leaks for anything, just be patient and wait for the news
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understandable that its the same tegra chipset but that doesnt mean its the same camera module. this is a different manufacturer we are talking about (samsung at that so it actually has a decent camera unlike moto)
Unless you're stuck with a locked bootloader or fortunate enough to be in a WiMax market, head over to the developer's forum and load one of the many ICS or JB based ROMs. Joker's CM10 based ROM is as stable or better of an experience than I ever had with factory.