Nagging doubts about ROMing - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a rooted thunderbolt -- thank you revolutionary -- but I have not taken the next step yet, because there's a few things I want to clarify. I'm plan to do a clean wipe, so filter my questions through that lens, if you will.
I'm on stock froyo build 1.70.605. See, I rooted before gingerbread, and now I'm stuck here in the past. The OTA got me a few times, so I've become a lot better with clockwork recovery and nandroid backups. Oddly enough, the OTA is no longer being pushed on me.
1) Preserve contacts
You can do this through google, evidently. But is this something you have to do proactively? Or does it happen automatically behind the scenes? What do I do to get 'em back after the new rom is in place?
2) Preserve SMS messages
Now, I've downloaded handcent because of the froyo error where SMS messages go to unintended targets. Accidentally told my boss I was going to get raped in a van...was a joke for another buddy of mine.
I wanna keep my text messages. What do I do for that?
3) Apps and Data
I know this is what TiBu's for. My questions here are where does TiBu back up my data to? Does TiBu magically reappear after I install the ROM and then merrily offer to restore everything I had backed up?
Oh, and I've read conflicting things about using TiBu on system apps. I'm inclinded to take the side of "no, not ever."
4) Getting the right Radio
Ok, I know there is no clear answer to this. I'd just assume the latest gingerbread radio, unless the ROM specifies something different (most dont). My question here is that in some places people talk about CDMA and LTE radios differently, and other times they make it sound like theres just one comprehensive radio for both.
5) Flash!
Here's what I've gathered...use the clockwork recovery mod. Wipe the dalvik (davlik?) cache until it starts to chafe because you dont want to be flashin' dirty. This is where you'll do the ROM, radio, and if I'm going for bonus points, a kernel.
What's the order for this? ROM -> Radio -> Kernel? People also mention yanking the battery as a hard restart between these steps. Advisable?
6) Clocks - Over and Under and Through the Woods
Do you use the android market app set cpu for this? Or does it depend on what ROM and Kernel you're using?
I have heard that overclocking will help add to the wear and tear of your phone. I dont mind the temporary instability and figuring out what's the highest you can go. Just don't want to damage this thing. Oh, and what the duce is a governer? I get that it's supposed to be some kinda speed cap, but what imposes it? The ROM? The Kernel? Jesus?
More realistically, I want to underclock it when it's idle in order to conserve juice. I figure it's more useful than overclocking.
7) Battery Calibration
I read from what seemed like a well informed how-to guide that battery calibration is bunk. I could see that. Everybody has their own pseudo scientific way to repetitiously plug and unplug the battery until it achieves charge-nirvana. Is it more than superstition?
8) Launchers and Randomness
What's a launcher? Is it worth using? Why?
If I plug my SD card into another android device, will the data be recognized? Can I backup my SD card's contents to a windows PC?
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt

Great questions, i can answer a few. Governer- i believe regulates the frequencies or cpu runs. Certain govs give better batt life, i use smartassv2 with screen off profile set thru setcpu, another of your questions, which i use to overclock. Launcher- the thingy with the functions at the bottom of the screen. Sense launcher is "rosie", aosp or "stock" launcher is more along the lines of golauncher, launcher pro, adw launcher. Those give you the stock look and are cystomizable. I prefer sense based roms, thats why i bought htc phones for my last 5. Currently running the latest "eternity #238 build". Very nice, great battery for sense 3.5 with beats audio. Ill let others take over now, hope this helps some.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App

1) Preserve contacts
Are your contacts saved to phone, or as Google contacts? If to phone, you must save them to Google. Once saved to the cloud, they return after each/every ROM Flash after Google sign-in.
2) Preserve SMS messages
SMS Backup+ backs them up and saves them to your Gmail account - free in the market. There are other means to accomplish this - I find this one to my liking. I do not restore them to the device.
3) Apps and Data
These are saved to a Titanium folder on your SD card.
Restored individually or in batch mode, by the user.
Some ROMs inclue the app, some don't.
Do not restore system apps or data between different ROMs.
4) Getting the right Radio
This is 100% ymmv, for either kind - MR2 LTE may be the best for you combined with the the MR4 version of the other one.
Why? They largely depend on geography - a radio combo that may work for me in the South may not work at all or nearly as well for Donny in KS, or you, wherever you are - these are trial-and-error.
5) Flash!
Yes, Clockwork. Wipe data/factory reset - this wipes the cache partition, simultaneous with the dalvik. Then go to advanced, and format system. Device is thoroughly wiped. (opinions vary on this)
Wipe batt stats as needed. ROMs and kernels are flashed in Clockwork - aka CWM. Radios are flashed in HBOOT.
DO NOT pull the battery when flashing a radio. (opinions vary on this)
When flashing a ROM, and/or making a backup, make sure you have say 40% battery life left before you flash.
If a new ROM flash bootloops, battery pull is ok.
6) Clocks - Over and Under and Through the Woods
SetCPU is available as a free d/l for XDA users - buy it in the market to support the dev.
The ROM may have a performance tweak area - in that case, I don't use SetCPU, but the one built in.
7) Battery Calibration
Ymmv - user experience - based on what/how you use your phone, what/how many apps you sync and the frequency.
If I plug my SD card into another android device, will the data be recognized?
Certain of the data will be recognized. Depends on device inserted into, and the ROM. Example - if I take my Thunderbolt's SD card & put it in my buddy's Moto DroidX, it will depend what it sees.
Can I backup my SD card's contents to a windows PC?
Sure can. Plug in, mount as usb, drag & drop.

1) Preserve contacts
Google should do this by itself, but if you are in a sense rom you can hit menu and import/export and back up and restore contacts. There are also apps for this
2) Preserve SMS messages
I know sense has a backup function(find it in the menus), but if you are going to a nonsense rom then use one of the 1000 apps in the market for this
3) Apps and Data
tibu backs up data, and some roms include it, and on the rest you can dl it from the market, the data will still be there
4) Getting the right Radio
If i remember right older radios were seperate and now they are combined, but I have never personally messed with mine, the stock one works perfectly for me.
5) Flash!
backup, wipe dalvik, wipe cache, wipe data, flash **** in any order, but just flash the rom first because they usually come with a good kernel, you can flash radio and kernel later if needed
6) Clocks - Over and Under and Through the Woods
I use setcpu from the market, but there are other free alternatives, adn some roms have built in functions for it
a governer is what controls how the clock speed changes, for example performance keeps it at the max 24/7 and smartass has it at the min when the screen it off
7) Battery Calibration
only wipe it if you batterylife is really ****ed up, but it is just a psudo effect
8) Launchers and Randomness
it replaces your, well, the whole visual part of android, it is pointless on a sense rom, and most aosp roms have one of the most popular ones pre installed
9)If I plug my SD card into another android device, will the data be recognized?
it should be
10)Can I backup my SD card's contents to a windows PC?
ofcourse, but I have never heard of anyone doing it
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt

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[Q] Slow Processing, Lagging, Help?

I am running GSB v3.5 on my Droid Eris(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944430) and have been noticing that my phone is getting more and more laggy, i havent installed anything to cause this problem and have even uninstalled apps just to see if it was them, i have a 16gb sd card so space shouldnt be an issue, ill list my apps below so let me know if any stand out that take up processor.
My Apps:
AdFree
Advanced Task Killer
Beautiful Widgets
Digital Clock Widget
Documents to Go
Drag Racing
Dropbox
Smart Keyboard Trial
Facebook
HD Wallpapers
Juice Defender
ROM Manager
Shoot Me
Titanium Backup
Twitter
Wireless Tether
Words with Friends
LauncherPro Plus
Is it my rom? Should i flash a new ROM (if thats the case please leave some suggestions, im very indecisive about roms)
Is it any of my apps?
What should i do! I miss my old speedy phone!
P.S. Sorry if this is in the wrong section, i wasnt sure where to put it but i knew most people look at threads here.
Atk is redundent if you supercharge/bulletproof your rom. Try a reflash. Full wipe and dalvik .
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Edit: what governor are you using?
Tell me how to find out what governor i'm using and i'll tell ya, haha
If you're using SetCPU or CPUBoost there should be an option to change the governor, and it should display which governor is currently being used.
I don't use those applications because i have tried on different occasions and it never fails that they crash my phone, so i'm unsure.
Quick question, is it okay to have multiple ROM zips on my sd card or should i keep only one at a time. ( I only have one right now but i plan on trying new ones out and didnt know if i should delete old ones?
I initially had this same issue on GB ROMs. A couple of things. First, I totally agree ATK is not needed. I would also add that personally I'd dump SetCPU. I had it on my phone initially and found it actually caused me a significant amount of lag. Of course the minimum CPU speed, maximum CPU speed, and governor can all be set in "Cyanogen Mod Settings" on CM7 ROMs.
What do you mean by "laggy"? Perhaps you should describe it more competely. Are you seeing, for example, lag when you press home after running an app, and you have to wait for whichever home you are using (presumably LauncherPro) to redraw the home screen? If so, is that the only lag that you are seeing?
If your lag is only in the launcher redrawing when you go home, there are two solutions to that. Either settings->CyanogenMod settings->Performance and turn on "lock home in memory" or try running this script and run option 11, for the bulletproof launcher.
Incidentally, your SD card has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of space available for apps to run (unless, of course, you have moved many apps to SD). If you go into (it's something like this - I am running xtrSENSE right now, but it is similar enough) settings->SD card & phone storage, how much available space do you have under "Internal phone storage"? I do not think that this is your issue, based on the number of apps that you report installed, but so long as you are above 25 to 30 MB or so you should be all set.
Try not using JuiceDefender. What that app does is shut down all of your radios for a period of time, turning them on briefly on a periodic schedule (for example, it turns them on for a couple of minutes every 15 minutes.) However, if you power up the phone with the radios off, it will restart them at power up, causing the phone to feel slow as they power up and, of course, network activity to start right after the radios are turned back on. It will surely help with battery consumption, but if you want no lag, that would be the first of the apps that you list that I would remove.
AdamFerg said:
I don't use those applications because i have tried on different occasions and it never fails that they crash my phone, so i'm unsure.
Quick question, is it okay to have multiple ROM zips on my sd card or should i keep only one at a time. ( I only have one right now but i plan on trying new ones out and didnt know if i should delete old ones?
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Having the zip files on your SD card shouldn't cause any problems, since they aren't actually running anything or doing anything besides taking up space.
If you start getting short on SD card space (unlikely with 16 gb of it ) then deleting them probably wouldn't be a bad idea.
AdamFerg said:
Tell me how to find out what governor i'm using and i'll tell ya, haha
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Settings->CyanogenMod settings->performance, go to CPU settings.
AdamFerg said:
Quick question, is it okay to have multiple ROM zips on my sd card or should i keep only one at a time. ( I only have one right now but i plan on trying new ones out and didnt know if i should delete old ones?
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It does not matter in the slightest. The speed of your phone has nothing at all to do with the zip files that you have stored on your SD card, or the Nandroid backups that you have - unless, of course, you are out of space, and that would only affect a small handful of apps that may store data on SD.
Finally some answers, thanks everyone.
I'm trying to flash a new rom but it says E:signature verification failed Installation aborted, not sure whats wrong. Maybe ill just stick with GSB for now? haha
AdamFerg said:
Finally some answers, thanks everyone.
I'm trying to flash a new rom but it says E:signature verification failed Installation aborted, not sure whats wrong. Maybe ill just stick with GSB for now? haha
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Sounds like an incomplete download. Check the MD5 hash of the file to make sure that it matches what the dev says it should, or at the very least verify that the file size matches what it's supposed to.
Also, make sure that you have a fairly well-charged battery.
doogald said:
Sounds like an incomplete download. Check the MD5 hash of the file to make sure that it matches what the dev says it should, or at the very least verify that the file size matches what it's supposed to.
Also, make sure that you have a fairly well-charged battery.
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I just toggle the signature check and it always seems to work, thanks though

Storage space issues

OK I came across this problem last month & tried to find a solution. I discovered many posts to the same problem however I was only able to fix it by doing a factory reset. The problem has come up again & I'd rather not reset it again. It only comes up after numerous picture uploads to Facebook. Until I do that my phone runs fine. I'm running Open Kang if that makes a difference. Given this information does anyone have a suggestion as to how to fix it? It was suggested that I flash a new ROM as maybe the one I have is too big? Starting to get extremely frustrated with a phone I've only had since April & really know nothing about
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Mentalmama said:
OK I came across this problem last month & tried to find a solution. I discovered many posts to the same problem however I was only able to fix it by doing a factory reset. The problem has come up again & I'd rather not reset it again. It only comes up after numerous picture uploads to Facebook. Until I do that my phone runs fine. I'm running Open Kang if that makes a difference. Given this information does anyone have a suggestion as to how to fix it? It was suggested that I flash a new ROM as maybe the one I have is too big? Starting to get extremely frustrated with a phone I've only had since April & really know nothing about
Sent from my SGH-T959 using xda app-developers app
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​This is (as others suggested) a problem with the ROM you have installed. There really is no way of getting around a wipe, but you can download an app called "Titainum Backup" and backup your apps from there. Once you get into your new ROM, simply download Titainium Backup again and restore your apps.
​As far as fixing the problem goes, I would reccomend using ODIN to flash back to stock, then flash CM9. (However, I am sure that flashing from your current rom directly to CM9 would work just as well)
The real reason this is occurring is the mounting of the /datadata simlink to the /data/data partition, this is actually in the kernel and sets it when flashing, not the rom. That partition stores the data for applications, and continues to grow as apps run. Often times when you sync alot of emails it will also fill the partition when its mounted as /datadata, so that makes sense with your pic uploads to facebook, now I'll tell you why.
Early on in ICS builds, we had two schools of thought. If you mount with the /data/data partition, you have essentially 2GB of space for that app data, however, this comes at the cost of decreased performance and much slower application response times. If its mounted with /data/data symlinked to /datadata, it clips that partition at about 180MB, a lot smaller, but the increase in performance is phenomenal.
So it was damned if you do (slow response times) or damned if you don't (less space) for those of us in the rom game. I think most (myself and DD included) made a conscious decision after lots of testing, to use /datadata with less space, for faster performance.
You may be easily able to resolve it by performing some simple app maintenance. On apps like email and gmail, set your sync interval down to a few days, uninstall unnecessary applications, and with facebook, I don't use it myself, but try clearing its cache if there is a setting for that, or go into apps in settings, and clear the data for the application. You may have to sign in again, but it should not effect your uploaded content, merely clear the local cache on the phone freeing up that /datadata space.
Hope this sheds some light on the issue for you, and how you can avoid it or remedy it going down the road.
Sent from the ICZen Experience
Br1cK'd said:
The real reason this is occurring is the mounting of the /datadata simlink to the /data/data partition, this is actually in the kernel and sets it when flashing, not the rom. That partition stores the data for applications, and continues to grow as apps run. Often times when you sync alot of emails it will also fill the partition when its mounted as /datadata, so that makes sense with your pic uploads to facebook, now I'll tell you why.
Early on in ICS builds, we had two schools of thought. If you mount with the /data/data partition, you have essentially 2GB of space for that app data, however, this comes at the cost of decreased performance and much slower application response times. If its mounted with /data/data symlinked to /datadata, it clips that partition at about 180MB, a lot smaller, but the increase in performance is phenomenal.
So it was damned if you do (slow response times) or damned if you don't (less space) for those of us in the rom game. I think most (myself and DD included) made a conscious decision after lots of testing, to use /datadata with less space, for faster performance.
You may be easily able to resolve it by performing some simple app maintenance. On apps like email and gmail, set your sync interval down to a few days, uninstall unnecessary applications, and with facebook, I don't use it myself, but try clearing its cache if there is a setting for that, or go into apps in settings, and clear the data for the application. You may have to sign in again, but it should not effect your uploaded content, merely clear the local cache on the phone freeing up that /datadata space.
Hope this sheds some light on the issue for you, and how you can avoid it or remedy it going down the road.
Sent from the ICZen Experience
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Br1ck'd to the rescue! I knew you still lurked these threads!!
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Wipe Data Question?

Sometimes, just when you think you have something down it doesn't seem to go right. I have been installing ROMS for a while now and I am starting to wondering if I am truly accomplishing a "data wipe". I have manually wiped all data in the "recovery" mode and I also have used CWM to wipe all data for me also. Even when I have wiped all data I have odd things happen on my HTC Thunderbolt. Here are some of the issues I have...
1. I have certain settings that were previously installed used other ROMS such as my wallpaper background screen and wifi connections. I would think that if you did a total data wipe you have to go into your settings and reconnect and put your backgrounds to the way you like them.
2. My texting does not work correctly. Usually when you text someone you will get their reply under your original text. Now, they come in weird random orders and it is frustrating to keep the conversation straight.
3. Certain ringtones stay the same as previous ROMS I have installed. Youl would think with a full data wipe you would have to go in and put the proper ringtones with the proper setting.
All of these small items make me wonder. Any help woud be greatly appreciated! Maybe I am doing something wrong, but this might be normal.
Ryon
You need to download 4ext recovery from the market and do t use rom manager or an app to do any recovery type stuff. When you get 4ext use the wipe all except SD card every time you flash a rom. On a side noe this is in the wrong section. It needs to be in q & a.
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Thanks for the advice and for the side note. Sorry about posting it in the wrong section.
Ryon
RyonAdcock said:
Sometimes, just when you think you have something down it doesn't seem to go right. I have been installing ROMS for a while now and I am starting to wondering if I am truly accomplishing a "data wipe". I have manually wiped all data in the "recovery" mode and I also have used CWM to wipe all data for me also. Even when I have wiped all data I have odd things happen on my HTC Thunderbolt. Here are some of the issues I have...
1. I have certain settings that were previously installed used other ROMS such as my wallpaper background screen and wifi connections. I would think that if you did a total data wipe you have to go into your settings and reconnect and put your backgrounds to the way you like them.
2. My texting does not work correctly. Usually when you text someone you will get their reply under your original text. Now, they come in weird random orders and it is frustrating to keep the conversation straight.
3. Certain ringtones stay the same as previous ROMS I have installed. Youl would think with a full data wipe you would have to go in and put the proper ringtones with the proper setting.
All of these small items make me wonder. Any help woud be greatly appreciated! Maybe I am doing something wrong, but this might be normal.
Ryon
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just a reminder this should be in the questions thread instead
Some things are stored by Google or HTC or on your SD card so they will always be with you. And when you wipe you can see the directory you are wiping too. You aren't wiping from the root directory.
Cheers!
RyonAdcock said:
Sometimes, just when you think you have something down it doesn't seem to go right. I have been installing ROMS for a while now and I am starting to wondering if I am truly accomplishing a "data wipe". I have manually wiped all data in the "recovery" mode and I also have used CWM to wipe all data for me also. Even when I have wiped all data I have odd things happen on my HTC Thunderbolt. Here are some of the issues I have...
1. I have certain settings that were previously installed used other ROMS such as my wallpaper background screen and wifi connections. I would think that if you did a total data wipe you have to go into your settings and reconnect and put your backgrounds to the way you like them.
2. My texting does not work correctly. Usually when you text someone you will get their reply under your original text. Now, they come in weird random orders and it is frustrating to keep the conversation straight.
3. Certain ringtones stay the same as previous ROMS I have installed. Youl would think with a full data wipe you would have to go in and put the proper ringtones with the proper setting.
All of these small items make me wonder. Any help woud be greatly appreciated! Maybe I am doing something wrong, but this might be normal.
Ryon
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I still use CWM as well.
I always wipe data 3x, wipe cache, and then wipe dalvik.
Haven't run into any issues yet.
RyonAdcock said:
Sometimes, just when you think you have something down it doesn't seem to go right. I have been installing ROMS for a while now and I am starting to wondering if I am truly accomplishing a "data wipe". I have manually wiped all data in the "recovery" mode and I also have used CWM to wipe all data for me also. Even when I have wiped all data I have odd things happen on my HTC Thunderbolt. Here are some of the issues I have...
1. I have certain settings that were previously installed used other ROMS such as my wallpaper background screen and wifi connections. I would think that if you did a total data wipe you have to go into your settings and reconnect and put your backgrounds to the way you like them.
2. My texting does not work correctly. Usually when you text someone you will get their reply under your original text. Now, they come in weird random orders and it is frustrating to keep the conversation straight.
3. Certain ringtones stay the same as previous ROMS I have installed. Youl would think with a full data wipe you would have to go in and put the proper ringtones with the proper setting.
All of these small items make me wonder. Any help woud be greatly appreciated! Maybe I am doing something wrong, but this might be normal.
Ryon
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Whenever I move to a new ROM, I do a superwipe to make sure everything is nuked other than my SD Card. As others have noted, some of your issuea may be due to the content stored on your SD Card, but for anything on the device itself I believe superwipe is the best option!
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I just wanted to say thank you once again to all the people who answered my question. I tried the 4 ext recovery and it is a very nice program. I ran the "wipe all data except SD card" option multiple times before installing new ROMS. I still have the same results such as wifi passwords being remembered, backgrounds, and ringtones. So, I just wanted to make sure I was not doing something simple or needing to take one extra step. In essence, I want the ROM to run efficiently.
It's the Google backup.
RyonAdcock said:
I just wanted to say thank you once again to all the people who answered my question. I tried the 4 ext recovery and it is a very nice program. I ran the "wipe all data except SD card" option multiple times before installing new ROMS. I still have the same results such as wifi passwords being remembered, backgrounds, and ringtones. So, I just wanted to make sure I was not doing something simple or needing to take one extra step. In essence, I want the ROM to run efficiently.
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After you flash the new rom are you selecting restore from Google backup? If you do all the system settings, ringtones included will be restored too. This is why I never use it.
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[Q] Help with android account settings menu

Hello,
I am new to the forums but not to android, i have been using android since the original google G1. I've always tinkered, installed cyanogen, etc but never gotten very deep into messing with my operating system other than flashing it. Until that is, i got a chinese mtk6589 phone. My phone had a pretty terrible stock rom with fake antutu specs, and a bunch of sketchy chinese apps, among other things. So far i've made some great strides but im still a few steps away from being completely happy with my phone.
I started with the stock rom. Rooted it. Built and flashed a custom CWM recovery. Removed all the fake and/or sketchy apps. flashed current gapps for jellybean (This was an ordeal. kept crashing while connecting to wifi on first boot after flashing gapps.) I feel like i've made great improvements. I now have a stable rom with no fake or junk apps, CWM recovery, current gapps, all of my apps now working properly. There is still a problem which has been present since the beginning which bugs the hell out of me.
Under settings -> accounts, there are no accounts listed although i've added my 2 google accounts and everything works. Mail, contacts, calendars, sync, etc. I just have no dialog or way of controlling them, other than deleting my accounts.db file and settings up again from scratch. Accounts work, just the accounts page under settings is broken. There is an add accounts button, cloudy, and reset and backup.
How can i repair this section of the menu? I apologize for my lack of knowledge. I have made it this far by reading, and lots of trial and error. I would love to one day successfully port cyanogen to my device. Obviously i have a long way to go and lots of learning to do.
Also, another thing i would like to fix is my false 32GB storage capacities under settings -> storage. As far as i can tell the phone actually has 4GB, 2 for internal storage, and 2 for phone storage. So far all my efforts to move apps to my sd card have been unsuccessful, i can however move them between phone and internal storage.

You now have root access, now what?

Hello all.
After recently obtaining root (see thread asus padfone x mini rooting device) I thought we could all begin to catalog what we have changed. Any app that required root and has proven useful and effective for you, please share it here and I will begin to aggregate all of the useful tools here in this top post.
Some stuff you might want to try after rooting
(Copied from my other thread)
A couple things I did with my phone after root.
1. Froze all bloatware. I might remove it later but I felt safer just freezing it with Titanium Backup in case I find out later it screwed something up.
2. Installed a CPU tweaker like 3C ToolBox. If I choose any governor besides interactive, the phone crashes, freezes and just won't play nice. But I have it set to on boot interactive, 1.33GHz - 1.6GHz and no problem. Phone is much faster now. Also for screen off I have ondemand 800MHZ - 933MHz with 1 CPU online, 2nd free and 3rd offline. Ondemand seems to work fine in screen off maybe because I am not accessing apps on the fly. Before root this phone would suck away the battery life and I would only be able to get 6 hours out of it. I assume it was because all the CPU's were online running high and lows and draining the battery as well as the bloatware just lingering in the background sucking up precious resources. I was right. Once I forced the screen off settings my battery now last 3-4x longer. I can have a full charge in the morning and it still be at about 50% - 60% late at night with the occasional checking emails, checking on a game or two and surfing the web. Awesome!
3. On a more important note, I HATED the AT&T boot up sound. Dun dun dun dun snap. Awful! At night it wakes my wife up when I am in bed needing to reboot my phone. I had to smother it with a pillow to muffle the sound. There was no way to change or quiet it. It was a forced noise on a forced volume. However, I used X-Plore, gave it root and navigated to /system/media/audio and renamed powerup.wav to powerup.wav.bak. No more annoying AT&T sound at bootup! Whoohoo! It is quiet as can be. Love it.
4. I also hated the low battery noise. So I went to /system/media/audio/ui and renamed lowbattery.ogg to lowbattery.ogg.bak and now no more annoying low battery notifications. Only the popup window notifies me. Yay! Progress!
5. Installed SD Fix! Finally! My 3rd party apps can now write to my external micro SD card. This allows for installing apps to SD, moving their data and just overall more usage of the micro sd card that was stupidly blocked when KitKat 4.2.2 was released. I don't care if it has more security risks. Unless they plan on making 64GB+ a standard for all phones for built-in memory, I need my micro sd card to work as intended.
This phone is 100% better because of root. Happy rooting!
How in the world do you move apps to the sd card? I did the SD fix but there is no option to move apps to sd.
Moving apps to SD
pjohnson87 said:
How in the world do you move apps to the sd card? I did the SD fix but there is no option to move apps to sd.
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I should of been more clear on moving apps to sd. Sorry about that. The operating system doesn't support apps to sd currently at least to my knowledge. Asus will have to come out with an update to their own OS or maybe someone here can do it. However, using the sd fix brings down one more obstacle to getting apps to sd working. Or, just wait for a custom rom.
NEED ROOT!
How was root obtained?!
JDubbed said:
(Copied from my other thread)
A couple things I did with my phone after root.
1. Froze all bloatware. I might remove it later but I felt safer just freezing it with Titanium Backup in case I find out later it screwed something up.
2. Installed a CPU tweaker like 3C ToolBox. If I choose any governor besides interactive, the phone crashes, freezes and just won't play nice. But I have it set to on boot interactive, 1.33GHz - 1.6GHz and no problem. Phone is much faster now. Also for screen off I have ondemand 800MHZ - 933MHz with 1 CPU online, 2nd free and 3rd offline. Ondemand seems to work fine in screen off maybe because I am not accessing apps on the fly. Before root this phone would suck away the battery life and I would only be able to get 6 hours out of it. I assume it was because all the CPU's were online running high and lows and draining the battery as well as the bloatware just lingering in the background sucking up precious resources. I was right. Once I forced the screen off settings my battery now last 3-4x longer. I can have a full charge in the morning and it still be at about 50% - 60% late at night with the occasional checking emails, checking on a game or two and surfing the web. Awesome!
3. On a more important note, I HATED the AT&T boot up sound. Dun dun dun dun snap. Awful! At night it wakes my wife up when I am in bed needing to reboot my phone. I had to smother it with a pillow to muffle the sound. There was no way to change or quiet it. It was a forced noise on a forced volume. However, I used X-Plore, gave it root and navigated to /system/media/audio and renamed powerup.wav to powerup.wav.bak. No more annoying AT&T sound at bootup! Whoohoo! It is quiet as can be. Love it.
4. I also hated the low battery noise. So I went to /system/media/audio/ui and renamed lowbattery.ogg to lowbattery.ogg.bak and now no more annoying low battery notifications. Only the popup window notifies me. Yay! Progress!
5. Installed SD Fix! Finally! My 3rd party apps can now write to my external micro SD card. This allows for installing apps to SD, moving their data and just overall more usage of the micro sd card that was stupidly blocked when KitKat 4.2.2 was released. I don't care if it has more security risks. Unless they plan on making 64GB+ a standard for all phones for built-in memory, I need my micro sd card to work as intended.
This phone is 100% better because of root. Happy rooting!
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The phone is dual core so why set three cpu's
the phone is set from factory with interactive 1.6GHz max but it's low is like 200 I checked it out with pimp my rom but didn't change or keep any tweets as my battery life is fine
SDK fix is important you can't even delete files off SDK without it I believe bloat is what causes battery drain trilla the rooting thread top post works
My mod list
Ok, so I wanted to post a reply to this to list what I have done after root access was obtained.
1. I installed Titainum and removed most of the bloatware from AT&T, along with some of the random stuff I don't need.
2. I installed permissions denied to remove permissions from apps and games that don't need access to things like my contacts or network access.
3. Installed busy box and terminal emulator so I have some basic linux commands and can configure my iptables firewall. (on a side note I am still looking at how to install the "netfilter" kernel module to allow droidwall firewall and network logging)
4. Still working on enabling WiFi tether. ( I use Straight Talk, not AT&T )
5. Installed ES File Explorer and gave it root permissions.
6. This doesn't really require root but I added Owncloud for my cloud storage on my own server, Subsonic for music streaming on my own server, carddav for syncing contacts from my own server and configured my email from my own email server. I like to keep all of my information on my server rather then Google's servers, and I am so far completely disconnected from Google other then using their servers to get my apps I use.
Once I get #4 and #5 finished and all my apps I use installed I will be stripping everything "Google" related out of the device including all of google play's services, Gmail and any background services not needed. Since Google wants to use their services for tracking user data I don't feel the need to keep them...
GE3K.me said:
Since Google wants to use their services for tracking user data I don't feel the need to keep them...
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doesnt matter if you use google,microsoft/bing, or any other service, all of them track you no matter what you try to do. i just avoid putting anything detrimental to me on my phones. no credit card data, no ss numbers, etc. all else is basically public knowledge anyway
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Cognacentertainment said:
doesnt matter if you use google,microsoft/bing, or any other service, all of them track you no matter what you try to do. i just avoid putting anything detrimental to me on my phones. no credit card data, no ss numbers, etc. all else is basically public knowledge anyway
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Yes, all of the above invade our privacy which is why all of my email, cloud storage, and music is hosted on my own server at my house and secured with SSL encryption. I don't use microsoft, google or apple for my personal information, but I keep a gmail account for a junk mail account (not connected to my phone) and exchange for work. Also my phone is encrypted as well as my text messaging database (text secure). Now I know this does not fix all vulnerabilities but it sure does reduce them and make me feel better that my information is for the better part under my control. As far as credit card data, if I were to even consider putting that on my phone or even my SS number it would all be stored under an encrypted database.
I also do not use public hotspots since that would just open a whole other world of vulnerabilities.
JDubbed said:
I should of been more clear on moving apps to sd. Sorry about that. The operating system doesn't support apps to sd currently at least to my knowledge. Asus will have to come out with an update to their own OS or maybe someone here can do it. However, using the sd fix brings down one more obstacle to getting apps to sd working. Or, just wait for a custom rom.
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After I rooted my Mini X, I just re-partitioned my 64gb external micro sd into 3 parts. 50 gb as ntfs for regular storage, 10 gb as ext4 for link2sd app to create a link for moving apps to the sd. and the rest which was a little over 3 gb or so as swap space to help with the 1gb low ram using memory swap for root. I keep all of my important apps on the 8 gb internal phone storage... or 4gb and the rest of them go to the 10 gb reserved within the partition i created on the sd. as far as "memory swap for root" goes. It took some time to figure out how to use the swap partition, because the location /dev/block/mmcblk1p3 didn't exist. but after I rebooted everything worked as it should have. Now my mini x which is running net 10 can outrun the zenfone 5 on the antutu benchmark. There is a little glitch when you reboot, which is probably the sd mounting but after that everything runs much faster. Considering how crappy it ran from being stock. I almost took it back.
Still waiting for cwm and cyanogenmod to meet this phone. I hope this trick helped you I won't be around much online to make a step by step how to on this. Considering i am currently a laser technician and working 12 hour shifts at the moment. But to format the micro i used "full wipe" and to create partitions i used "AParted" by sylkat tools
GE3K.me said:
3. Installed busy box and terminal emulator so I have some basic linux commands and can configure my iptables firewall. (on a side note I am still looking at how to install the "netfilter" kernel module to allow droidwall firewall and network logging)
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I bought a Zenfone 5 and after rooting, I just discovered that the kernel does not support netfilter, so Droidwall cannot work !! :crying:
why Asus doesnt have this ? wish I had known earlier.
rht_sg said:
I bought a Zenfone 5 and after rooting, I just discovered that the kernel does not support netfilter, so Droidwall cannot work !! :crying:
why Asus doesnt have this ? wish I had known earlier.
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Yeah, I actually returned my Asus Padfone because I couldn't use netfilter. I needed it for network logging and Droidwall, so it was kinda a deal breaker... I ended up getting a Sony Xperia T2 unlocked and rooting it, so far everything I needed is working better then I would hoped with the Sony.
I wish you luck with your Zenfone.
Custom ROM ?
Hey all,
I'm new to the padfone x mini seeing that my note 2 finally said I give up.. But what has to happen to get a ROM oor this thing.. It seems to me that the padfone x mini has a decent amount of potential here!.. I am no developer and have never done so but I know my way around d a PC and I know my way around linux a bit. I would just like to know where to start for developing a ROM for this phone and my first actually... Any help or guidance in the proper direction is much appreciated.
Factory rom backup?
Did anyone do a backup? We're really going to need one.
I installed Root Booster which made my phone actually stable. It hasn't crashed since I installed it and paid for the high stability mode.
Removed a lot of the Google and AT&T apps. The GOOGLE app itself and the Play Music, Play Videos, Play Books, etc. were removed with the store intact and related services left alone.
Performance jumped up once I removed the "Google" app named essentially just that, "Google".
But most importantly, it is stable. Like when I installed Lollipop on the Padfone X regular, this one makes the tablet worth it and proves that AT&T destroyed yet another device with its idiocy. But I'm running this on T-Mobile since the device itself was unlocked when I got mine for $99.
Also, I reinstalled the Google Music, Video apps since you can but I wanted to remove the default version that comes preinstalled with the ROM. BUT make sure to use System app remover (ROOT) by Jumobile. If you uninstall too much, this lets you restore it right back. Just don't purge the recycle bin.

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