The. App in the market that can install ubuntu on android devices will work on our sony tablet s?
The installer is compatible but it requires:
Kernel will loop device support (this is included in most custom ROM's)
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This fits not to our devices ... therefore I guess NO
but be brave and try it out ... keep us informed
If we can use custom kernel than we can becuase our chipset is the same asius transformer and i had ubuntu running on it
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ubuntu can be designed from the scratch for any arm based device .
this is just a humble request to senior devs to check it out and try to port it on our wave.
even if modem would not work for arm ubuntu it would be useful in other aspects like usb hosting, full pc based firefox experience,full doc editing,and something new that our wave would have.
htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu/Leo
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootStock/RunNative
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch
even android porting is on half stage. I think dev's are gonna handle the android thing. Maybe they will after android but Android has priority
furkey said:
even android porting is on half stage. I think dev's are gonna handle the android thing. Maybe they will after android but Android has priority
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Well, a working Ubuntu port can be easier than the Android, as one don't have to pay attention to the modem (however determining the battery level still would be a problem...). But I run some rounds with the current kernel to make console available and all my atepts failed, I was not able to get it work... What would you do without console?
anghelyi said:
Well, a working Ubuntu port can be easier than the Android, as one don't have to pay attention to the modem (however determining the battery level still would be a problem...). But I run some rounds with the current kernel to make console available and all my atepts failed, I was not able to get it work... What would you do without console?
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may be this may help you
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/n900
Hmmm i think all guys are busy in porting android and making voluntas browser etc also they have their own life so let them work on other things first.
Also did u tried ubuntu through badadroid ?? Did it worked.??
Hello all!!
I'm new to Android and i'm interested in learning a bit and maybe get involved with it but there are some things that i don't get about android and can't find the answers.
My main question is why Android which is based on Linux is so hard to get updates for all devices at once?
For example we got ICS lately why it's only available for Nexus S and not for all devices that support android?
In pcs if there is a new Ubuntu version every pc can get it no matter the hardware it uses as there are drivers for it.
Is it so hard to have drivers for all the android devices?
Why do we need to wait forever for the X company that makes the phone to build a new kernel?
Is it about the libaries?The drivers?
Say i got a device that is not supported by ICS what would i need to make it supported? I got my libs from 2.3.5 can i toss them to overlay compile and works? If not y not?
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry if my questions are too noobish, everyone has to start from somewhere
Serafym said:
Hello all!!
I'm new to Android and i'm interested in learning a bit and maybe get involved with it but there are some things that i don't get about android and can't find the answers.
1. My main question is why Android which is based on Linux is so hard to get updates for all devices at once?
2. For example we got ICS lately why it's only available for Nexus S and not for all devices that support android?
- In pcs if there is a new Ubuntu version every pc can get it no matter the hardware it uses as there are drivers for it.
3. Is it so hard to have drivers for all the android devices?
4. Why do we need to wait forever for the X company that makes the phone to build a new kernel?
5. Is it about the libaries?The drivers?
6. Say i got a device that is not supported by ICS what would i need to make it supported? I got my libs from 2.3.5 can i toss them to overlay compile and works? If not y not?
Thanks in advance for your answers and sorry if my questions are too noobish, everyone has to start from somewhere
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1. Manufacturers don't release updates for all their devices all at once (some not at all).
2. It's ready (most stable so far) for that device (SDK ports; (almost) official update)
- Not true. If you tried to place Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a PC with a 368 MHz and 32mb ram, it would not run .
3. Yes. Android is on devices from many different manufacturers with many different designs and hardware.
4. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel (to know what it is). Different hardware will require different commands, etc. If the manufacturer doesn't release the kernel source, development cannot be done on that device (properly).
5. Yes and yes (much more too).
6. Create a working port from some other device (with similar hardware) which is supported. Sometimes. Some versions of android have backward compatibility of those files but ICS isn't really backward compatible which is why many ports of ICS (for various devices) don't have a working camera, etc. See the 2nd paragraph here: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update.
Hello guys, before the question, i am sorry if i am little english. i look some website that running Ubuntu on Android Device.
I am sorry i am new user in this site, so i can't using outside links in this posting, but you will find if you search on google about this.
i have some question about this case:
1. i am using Samsung Galaxy S Wifi 4.0 a.k.a Samsung YP-G1CW/XSE what ubuntu can running on my device?
2. How with OS Windows? what windows can running on my Device? Windows XP may be, or Windows 7..
Please Help me, i need to running other OS on my Android Device.. Thank's Before for your answer
There are two ways to run another OS on your device: chroot and qemu. You can run Ubuntu (or any Linux distribution that supports ARM processors) with little effort using the chroot method. Look up "Ubuntu installer free" in the store and it will walk you through. It may not work on the stock kernel, so make sure you have the kernel from these forums that fits your device.
The only way to run an OS like Windows is by virtualization through qemu, because it doesn't natively support the chip in your Galaxy S Wifi. This method requires a version of qemu compiled for ARM and additional libraries, which I have not gotten to work successfully on this device. (Anyone else?)
So I'd suggest just trying to get Ubuntu running. It won't be very fast or easy to use on a device that small, but it will work.
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Mevordel said:
There are two ways to run another OS on your device: chroot and qemu. You can run Ubuntu (or any Linux distribution that supports ARM processors) with little effort using the chroot method. Look up "Ubuntu installer free" in the store and it will walk you through. It may not work on the stock kernel, so make sure you have the kernel from these forums that fits your device.
The only way to run an OS like Windows is by virtualization through qemu, because it doesn't natively support the chip in your Galaxy S Wifi. This method requires a version of qemu compiled for ARM and additional libraries, which I have not gotten to work successfully on this device. (Anyone else?)
So I'd suggest just trying to get Ubuntu running. It won't be very fast or easy to use on a device that small, but it will work.
Sent from my YP-G70
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Thanks Very much for your solution, i will try search, qemu method or chroot methode.. hope i will can do it, because i am new for it. i am not a developer, or programmer. i just want to know more about gad-get
so thanks a lot.
Ubuntu for the PC and Windows can be installed on almost any PC provided it has the compatible hardware. Is it possible to create a Ubuntu touch ROM that can be installed on any phone with the right hardware? I always wondered why this hasn't been attempted or done.
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Ubuntu for the PC and Windows can be installed on almost any PC provided it has the compatible hardware. Is it possible to create a Ubuntu touch ROM that can be installed on any phone with the right hardware? I always wondered why this hasn't been attempted or done.
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Ubuntu Touch is precisely that. A single unified image that with a couple of prerequisites relative to 'YOUR' device. Its not possible to just create a single flashable .zip of Ubuntu because of all the Android libs being used, it needs CM10 as a base but each device has different base code.
I thought Ubuntu touch was it's own operating system, I didn't know it relied on android for it to run a on mobile device that isn't specifically made for it.
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I thought Ubuntu touch was it's own operating system, I didn't know it relied on android for it to run a on mobile device that isn't specifically made for it.
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Ubuntu Touch is a new operating system. But in the current state it uses Android libs to make porting easier. An Ubuntu Touch device won't use those libs.
It will be like this once manufacturers start building ubuntu "certified" or "compatible" devices, but regarding the devices in the market right now it's technically not possible
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Is it yet stable
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My phone vendor has released the kernel sources for Android 7.1.2 I want to upgrade it for use with higher Android versions. Any help will be appreciated
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My phone vendor has released the kernel sources for Android 7.1.2 I want to upgrade it for use with higher Android versions. Any help will be appreciated
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Android's Linux kernel on a device is tied heavily to the version of the Android OS it's running.
My Suggestion: Don't try this stunt because you may end up with a kernel with miss matching drivers and also a boot-looped device as a bonus.
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Android's Linux kernel on a device is tied heavily to the version of the Android OS it's running.
My Suggestion: Don't try this stunt because you may end up with a kernel with miss matching drivers and also a boot-looped device as a bonus.
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But other developers of my device have already done so and their kernel works perfectly with my device
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But other developers of my device have already done so and their kernel works perfectly with my device
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Wondering why then you don't contact these developers to get helped?
Again:
Android - what is a stack of software components which is roughly divided into five sections and four main layers - is built on top of the Linux kernel, but it has always used a heavily-modified version with per-device changes from OEMs ( like Samsung & LG ), chip manufacturers like Qualcomm & MediaTek & Google.
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