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I am in no way saying the devs suck, I'm just saying that I look at the development section at least 4 times a day, and all the ROMs are repetitive.
I was just looking at the Sensation development and it seems like they're way ahead of us.
I love our devs and we would be nothing without them. I'm just wondering if anyone feels the same as me.
Plz don't flame.
Not enough ROMs?
PM the mods and ask wher'd the devs go.
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Not enough ROMs?
PM the mods and ask wher'd the devs go.
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No I'm saying that the ROMs are repetitive. Like there's nothing new. Most all the same ****. Not to say that they're bad or anything.
I agree. I guess it could be a mixture of the whole bootloader issue, and the way these forums were moderated. It greatly discouraged many developers. It could also be that with many other great phones coming out some devs may not have even gotten the EVO 3D to wait for the SGS2 or the next Nexus. Or maybe developing for this phone is harder than it was for the EVO, I don't know since I am not a developer. Hopefully well start seeing some ROM's such as Cyanogen and MIUI soon. Right now all of the ROM's are pretty much the same, just minor tweaks from stock. Not to take anything away from the hard work of those devs.
It's not because of the moderators. It's because there's no official AOSP builds yet.
I agree the only choice is sense 3.0 or senseless 3.0 with various tweaks thrown in. I just know of a few devs that left because of the poor moderating also. Im happy with what the forum has to offer though. The kernels are a huge plus for me.
don't forget that there were some Shipped S-OFF Sensations around before root, and also that their user base, being a global phone, is probably much, much bigger than ours.
nope i found my rom and my kernel and sticking with it until a aosp build is out
I'm hoping the next update will get more stuff going...
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nope i found my rom and my kernel and sticking with it until a aosp build is out
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What rom and kernel is that cheesy?
Agree I have that same feeling as well slow development but I'm sure great stuff will come
what does the sensation have that we do not?
why do you want aosp builds out that don't work (sound, camera, etc) out for general consumption?
don't you think there are enough d3rp threads for people who don't know how to read?
Check out my kernel. ive posted several updates over the past few days
OP - I totally agree. I seriously almost posted this exact same thing a day ago but was too scared to get flamed. And I'm not saying anything bad about our devs - I was mostly wondering if there are specific technical challenges that are delaying AOSP ROMs. It just doesn't seem like it took this long for anything to release on the OG EVO (or maybe I'm imagining). Also, I remember that I LOVED flashing new AOSP ROMs and kernels, broken camera and everything! That was part of the fun: I flash a ROM today and it makes my phone way faster but breaks the camera, then tomorrow I get the camera back but the system is unstable - either way, I have the most cutting edge firmware in existence every time I flashed a nightly. Please, Devs, if you are holding back because everything isnt functional, there are a lot of us dying to try new stuff out.
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what does the sensation have that we do not?
why do you want aosp builds out that don't work (sound, camera, etc) out for general consumption?
don't you think there are enough d3rp threads for people who don't know how to read?
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Some people have AOSP builds that are 100% working. They're just not releasing them until CM7 is officially brought over.
So I just went through the sensation development thread, I would say the first twenty. And I found nothing interesting. Not one cool, oh that's different ROM. Theyre was a aosp ROM that didn't have audio camera etc, please elaborate O.P. in what they have that we dont
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Some people have AOSP builds that are 100% working. They're just not releasing them until CM7 is officially brought over.
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Lol, what if I told you tge same about the 3d?
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Some people have AOSP builds that are 100% working. They're just not releasing them until CM7 is officially brought over.
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lol - since you ARE knowledge - please enlighten me.
People have ported them and kept them to themselves because of the moderators that we have. The mods for our forum make everything difficult. You see how the R3MIX kernel developer has left, and agrageben(no idea how to spell it) has almost completely left us.
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As an AOSP fan this is what I always see...a bunch of Sense roms and a few AOSP roms...sans AOSP.
Not to diminish the efforts of the Sense devs...Synergy is kicking serious ass on my phone right now and I'm loving it....but I can't wait for AOSP CM7/MIUI builds to break everything and build it back up. Not to mention the really extravagant kernels. Bring on the AOSP CFS/UV/HAVS/OC kernels with 80mb roms....
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Some people are waiting until CM7 is officially brought over and then they can release their AOSP kangs that are somewhat working.
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hey there everybody!!! Real proud owner of the Photon and while I really like it alot I would love to see some CM7 action on this beast. Just wondering if anybody else would be interested in have CM7? Perhaps if we show the devs that there is a nice size group of peeps interested maybe they will start on it if they haven't already.
Hit the poll up and let's see what kind of results we get. Let's try to encourage the devs to do it!!!
Edit: looks like there is at least one dev that I can see who is starting work on porting CM7 to the Photon. Let's give him all the support we can and let him know we appreciate him for his work!!
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hey there everybody!!! Real proud owner of the Photon and while I really like it alot I would love to see some CM7 action on this beast. Just wondering if anybody else would be interested in have CM7? Perhaps if we show the devs that there is a nice size group of peeps interested maybe they will start on it if they haven't already.
Hit the poll up and let's see what kind of results we get. Let's try to encourage the devs to do it!!!
Edit: looks like there is at least one dev that I can see who is starting work on porting CM7 to the Photon. Let's give him all the support we can and let him know we appreciate him for his work!!
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Would love to see this, especially now that they fixed the 4g issue I believe on the Atrix. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Either way it would definitely be sweet, can't imagine how fast it would be. Good thread, seems to be picking up around here, nice to see!
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No interest at all. Cyanogen is a beast and his crew does great work, but this phone is close to perfect or of the box for me.
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No interest at all. Cyanogen is a beast and his crew does great work, but this phone is close to perfect or of the box for me.
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Yes whoever is responsible for it, just talk to the Atrix guys. Its very very similar. With a few changes the current prebeta3 of the atrix would probalby boot on our photon
whoever is working on it officially let me know so i donate
Would love to see cm7 run on this beast of a phone. 100% stock android is always my first choice. But don't get me wrong the stock photon UI isn't to bad =]
I wana CM7
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Are you kidding? CM7 ftw!
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Stock photon isn't bad, but I still feel it has a lot going on running in the background I can do without, im just afraid of deleting something that's tied into the framework. ASOP would scream on this phone.
Who is the dev? And I have talked to 4 devs from the miui forums and a few cm7 devs from xda and it seems the only thing thats holding them back from getting the photon is $$$ many are college students stretching the little they have for food. So I can say this, if we could some how start a bounty with a goal large enough to purchase a few phones for those that are willing to port miui/cm7/sense to this beast...endless development would be on the horizon.
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hey there everybody!!! Real proud owner of the Photon and while I really like it alot I would love to see some CM7 action on this beast. Just wondering if anybody else would be interested in have CM7? Perhaps if we show the devs that there is a nice size group of peeps interested maybe they will start on it if they haven't already.
Hit the poll up and let's see what kind of results we get. Let's try to encourage the devs to do it!!!
Edit: looks like there is at least one dev that I can see who is starting work on porting CM7 to the Photon. Let's give him all the support we can and let him know we appreciate him for his work!!
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There's one thing that would make it perfect -- a tweak to the behavior of ScrollView so it always scrolls/pans the contents some whole multiple of two pixels. This would effectively solve the blur/shimmer problem caused by the RGBW PenTile display.
Scrolling NOW causes black text on white backgrounds to shimmer when it moves by one pixel because it's oscillating between getting rendered by 1 (W) and 3 (RGB) subpixels. If you snap to even offsets, you'll ensure that a pixel that starts out being rendered by a RGB triad is still rendered by a RGB triad after moving, and a pixel that starts out being rendered by a bWr triad is still rendered by a bWr triad after moving. Scrolling will be a tiny bit less smooth, but at least then the text won't shimmer and blur.
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Who is the dev? And I have talked to 4 devs from the miui forums and a few cm7 devs from xda and it seems the only thing thats holding them back from getting the photon is $$$ many are college students stretching the little they have for food. So I can say this, if we could some how start a bounty with a goal large enough to purchase a few phones for those that are willing to port miui/cm7/o this beast...endless development would be on the horizon.
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Mrinehart93 just bought the phone on sept 4th and he plans on porting cm7.
Definitely
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Who is the dev? And I have talked to 4 devs from the miui forums and a few cm7 devs from xda and it seems the only thing thats holding them back from getting the photon is $$$ many are college students stretching the little they have for food. So I can say this, if we could some how start a bounty with a goal large enough to purchase a few phones for those that are willing to port miui/cm7/sense to this beast...endless development would be on the horizon.
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I'd most definitely pay some someone for there hard work + 1 for a bounty look what it's done for the touchpad
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If any dev wants they can ask the gentle man turl here:
http://modmymobile.com/forums/661-m...7-exp-cyanogenmod-7-1-atrix-pre-beta-4-a.html
he said with a photon kernel and simple changes the CM7 for atrix should boot on Photon. Its very stable.
i know nothing about modding unfortunately, but he said:
'Anyway, it will need a bit of tweaking to get it started, like actually using a photon kernel and renaming the init file.'
'To boot it on a photon and be able to use sensors, ril, etc you will need to use a kernel built for photon. You can build one with the source code provided by Motorola.'
Can someone take a look into this, i feel we can have some CM7 build running quickly if someone comitts, the best i can do is form a bounty or donate, and im ready to do that to whoever leads this ship
porting cm7 is easy, takes files from one repo and git them in another repo....
but seriously guys if it was so easy as taking the atrix rom and mixing it with th ephoton kernel and 99.9% of everything worked out of the box, dont you think it would have been done? wimax, gps, mms, sms, voice, data, etc etc is all going to be controlled by the radio and as such even if the atrix cm7 got EVERYTHING else working, chances are most of you bought the photon to use/have one of the six things i just listed
I wouldn't mind seeing CM7 as long as I can use WiMax. I'm assuming Cyanogen would give us slightly better battery life since it doesn't have any Moto dependencies working in the background.
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i know nothing about modding unfortunately, but he said:
'Anyway, it will need a bit of tweaking to get it started, like actually using a photon kernel and renaming the init file.'
'To boot it on a photon and be able to use sensors, ril, etc you will need to use a kernel built for photon. You can build one with the source code provided by Motorola.'
Can someone take a look into this, i feel we can have some CM7 build running quickly if someone comitts, the best i can do is form a bounty or donate, and im ready to do that to whoever leads this ship
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I started compiling it today.
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I wouldn't mind seeing CM7 as long as I can use WiMax. I'm assuming Cyanogen would give us slightly better battery life since it doesn't have any Moto dependencies working in the background.
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here is the problem with that, the evo had the first use of wimax and when they tried to get it in cyanogenmod they had to struggle for a long time (also offer a huge bounty). samsung phones, the epic and the nexus both have wimax in cm7 working flawlessly.. due to teh nexus being aosp. now here is motos first crack with wimax.. depending on how they did it,,, we may never see cyanogenmod with wimax
2 teams working on cm7 and coolya working on it again, why not all stick together and help each other to make a perfect cm7 more faster? because more people then working on it would that be not a better idea?
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That is a very good idea, but it all depends on the different egos of each developer, there are way too many ROMs to my liking, but since I won't be developing a new one I have to stick to what is available.
Anyways, I feel that this diversity has given us several average ROMs instead of two or three excellent ROMs.
Hopefully things will change in the future, but right now, I still feel jealousy for my wife's X8 with a fully working CM7 ROM... sigh...
I was doing a little bit of surfing and noticed that cyanogen has made a cyanogen 9 version for the galaxy 2 and the nexus s... And I was wondering if it was possible to get this on our phones...
This should be in the general section...
Anyways one day it will
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Agree is should go in general. Cyanogen said that it wouldn't be until maybe January for an alpha of CM9.
As for asking for your specific phone, give it time... it hasn't even been a month since ICS source was released.
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Right. Moving to General.
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Agree is should go in general. Cyanogen said that it wouldn't be until maybe January for an alpha of CM9.
As for asking for your specific phone, give it time... it hasn't even been a month since ICS source was released.
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In the meantime, CM7.1 would be nice - but will they just skip over 7.1 for new devices and focus on 9?
Just as a heads up, Max Krivonos posted that he stopped working on CM7 for the amaze and is going straight to CM9,
Double edged sword. Great for CM9 but no CM at all for a few months.
Yea I really miss CM. Wish it would get here asap.
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I've thought alot about selling this phone due to the lack of having a huge community support (face it, it's no Sensation, Desire Z/HD, Evo, etc)... The hardware is good, the replacement? Obviously a Galaxy Nexus, if there is a solid CM9 port for this device, I would probably just save myself the trouble and keep using this, This has everything that the international GNex would have, except for the huge high res amoled screen. Please Koush/Max!!!! (I would think quite a bit could be borrowed from the Pyramid builds, with the obvious exception of the NFC/camera)
Uh... How long has the phone been out?? Let's face that first before complaining about the lack of development... It'd be nice if there was but its not going to happen over night...
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I've thought alot about selling this phone due to the lack of having a huge community support (face it, it's no Sensation, Desire Z/HD, Evo, etc)... The hardware is good, the replacement? Obviously a Galaxy Nexus, if there is a solid CM9 port for this device, I would probably just save myself the trouble and keep using this, This has everything that the international GNex would have, except for the huge high res amoled screen. Please Koush/Max!!!! (I would think quite a bit could be borrowed from the Pyramid builds, with the obvious exception of the NFC/camera)
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Be patient my friend! I think the reason behind (kinda) lacking developtment for this phone is because there will be an ICS came out soon for it in early 2012 and most Devs are waiting for the official Amaze ICS release rather than wasting their time to built rom that would only last for less than two months
On that perspective I am really thankful for Xboarder for his effort to brought us something to satisfied our addictiveness of flashing meanwhile
I am more thankful to Max Krivonos, and Keyan Mobli (Scepterr/kmobs), Max is probably gonna be the maintainer for the Amaze for CM9 and is currently the maintainer for the MT4GS, kmobs is the maintainer of the Sensation for CM9 and has it to a point where he's said "So I'm now using ICS as my daily driver"... There is hope, but if you're looking for CM7/9 or any REAL AOSP build, don't expect xboarder to deliver that, I don't think he compiles anything, he's a themer/kanger/(insert less offensive term here). There is hope, but I'm dying to see some actual AOSP builds, GB or ICS.
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I am more thankful to Max Krivonos, and Keyan Mobli (Scepterr/kmobs), Max is probably gonna be the maintainer for the Amaze for CM9 and is currently the maintainer for the MT4GS, kmobs is the maintainer of the Sensation for CM9 and has it to a point where he's said "So I'm now using ICS as my daily driver"... There is hope, but if you're looking for CM7/9 or any REAL AOSP build, don't expect xboarder to deliver that, I don't think he compiles anything, he's a themer/kanger/(insert less offensive term here). There is hope, but I'm dying to see some actual AOSP builds, GB or ICS.
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Well, I'm by no mean a tech guy or whatsoever in that manner. All I can do is follows instruction to flashing Rom and stuff so when it come to judging who done what I have no idea eventhough I'm very much understanding what kang is ...
Perhaps when Max and whoever on CyanogenMod team came over and gave us some ICS or CM9 goodness, 'til then, the very few peoples who get this Amaze forum go on as it is and gave us something to played with is Xboarder56, Mike1986 and NRGZ28 .... and for that I am appreciates their times and effort putting into it
Heck, I even thanksful those themer like Alexia Whitehurst, killathenoob, TheSneakerWhore for uploading their theme file even though I myself know how to extract files from rom and uploading onto UOT kitchen
Those guy are ways better than those who did nothing .
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Heck, I even thanksful those themer like Alexia Whitehurst, killathenoob, TheSneakerWhore for uploading their theme file even though I myself know how to extract files from rom and uploading onto UOT kitchen
Those guy are ways better than those who did nothing .
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Just trying to keep options out there during our "slow" (see:new) period. Development takes time--Hell, I'm stuck on a macbook until I can save up for a notebook. Once I get that, I'll be able to do real theming/modding. UOT framework feels like a cop-out right now, but it is all that is being offered and we need the activity to draw more people. I have a to-do list of mods I want to do, but until I get my hardware back, it isn't happening.
Ultimately, it is patience. This phone is very new--ICS is around the corner.
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Well, I'm by no mean a tech guy or whatsoever in that manner. All I can do is follows instruction to flashing Rom and stuff so when it come to judging who done what I have no idea eventhough I'm very much understanding what kang is ...
Perhaps when Max and whoever on CyanogenMod team came over and gave us some ICS or CM9 goodness, 'til then, the very few peoples who get this Amaze forum go on as it is and gave us something to played with is Xboarder56, Mike1986 and NRGZ28 .... and for that I am appreciates their times and effort putting into it
Heck, I even thanksful those themer like Alexia Whitehurst, killathenoob, TheSneakerWhore for uploading their theme file even though I myself know how to extract files from rom and uploading onto UOT kitchen
Those guy are ways better than those who did nothing .
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+1.
There is still very much a lot of effort being put in here.
I also am thankful to everyone helping out during our slow period. Although I can't wait for some true aosp action. I absolutely hate sense. It's pretty, but I just prefer aosp
wow man way to talk behind my back look at this:
https://github.com/Xboarder56/android_device_htc_ruby
wasnt gonna release yet but im working on cm7/cm9 compile so dont talk **** when you dont know.
PS: who fixed the recovery problem, me
PS: you compile just a basic recovery, hell port sense 3.5 with working data then talk
pss: just for prove recovery i compile 5.0.2.7 still working on fixing charging bug in this one but you make one of those without cm7 team and then you talk **** man i put hours into working on this **** for you just say that it makes me want to quite becuase you dont understand
http://www.multiupload.com/6ZLPJLUZ1S (5.0.2.7 recovery) happy now
Please refrain from argueing in thread's , take it to a PM . xBoarder doe's all of the work for us so don't even .
oh xboarder just schooled him. but back on topic i wish i could help xboarder but i know nothing about making roms and such.
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oh xboarder just schooled him. but back on topic i wish i could help xboarder but i know nothing about making roms and such.
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its not easy building a device tree but i did build one i still got to find all the libs to get it to compile right but thats the device tree it will compile cm7 just doenst boot all the way right now but it does compile working recoverys
I am looking for a custom HC or ICS ROM without Sense and a few other customizations. I posted a job in the Job Market but have't had anyone contact me yet. I used another ad as my template but have no idea what most of the qualifications that I listed even mean but I figured that they are relevant. (lol-I can follow directions to root and flash, but that's where it ends) I'm not sure what is possible in terms of my wish list, but we have to start somewhere. I just sourced 40 HTC Flyers and have my work cut out for me having these ready in the next couple of months.
The dev community for the flyer/view is small (but dedicated!) here. You might do better to either place a bounty on it, so others could help, or maybe contact the cyanogenmod team to see if a donation/support pledge would spark interest in a port of cm9.
I'd love to see cm9 on my view.
edit: I see there is a bounty thread here
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I am looking for a custom HC or ICS ROM without Sense and a few other customizations. I posted a job in the Job Market but have't had anyone contact me yet. I used another ad as my template but have no idea what most of the qualifications that I listed even mean but I figured that they are relevant. (lol-I can follow directions to root and flash, but that's where it ends) I'm not sure what is possible in terms of my wish list, but we have to start somewhere. I just sourced 40 HTC Flyers and have my work cut out for me having these ready in the next couple of months. I have the company checkbook at my disposal. Any takers?
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If you want a ROM without Sense, DeSensified HC is the best solution for know (still some Sense elements but it's pretty clean), Chaosz-X, I and many others are trying to get an AOSP ICS working, but it will take time to get it stable. So until that dream comes true I recommend DeSensified HC.
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The dev community for the flyer/view is small (but dedicated!) here. You might do better to either place a bounty on it, so others could help, or maybe contact the cyanogenmod team to see if a donation/support pledge would spark interest in a port of cm9.
I'd love to see cm9 on my view.
edit: I see there is a bounty thread here
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I've used CM ROMS before and yes, they are always good quality and stable. This "bounty" thing that you speak of...first I've heard of it. I'll look into it. Thanks for the tips!
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If you want a ROM without Sense, DeSensified HC is the best solution for know (still some Sense elements but it's pretty clean), Chaosz-X, I and many others are trying to get an AOSP ICS working, but it will take time to get it stable. So until that dream comes true I recommend DeSensified HC.
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That is what I running right now and considering that the developer says it's his first ROM, I am impressed. It works very nicely so far. I did have a wifi repeated disconnect issue but was told by another user that it's a HC thing and not the ROM. It was suggested that I assign a static. Did that and seeing how it goes. On another note...I wasn't aware that offering $ for a ROM could possibly get me into some heat here so I edited my post. Someone clued me on that and I am grateful. It would suck big time to get banned from here. This place is such an awesome resource. Feeling "bafoonish". Anyway, I have a little more info than I had an hour ago, so thank you both for putting in your 2 cents!
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That is what I running right now and considering that the developer says it's his first ROM, I am impressed. It works very nicely so far. I did have a wifi repeated disconnect issue but was told by another user that it's a HC thing and not the ROM. It was suggested that I assign a static. Did that and seeing how it goes. On another note...I wasn't aware that offering $ for a ROM could possibly get me into some heat here so I edited my post. Someone clued me on that and I am grateful. It would suck big time to get banned from here. This place is such an awesome resource. Feeling "bafoonish". Anyway, I have a little more info than I had an hour ago, so thank you both for putting in your 2 cents!
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We welcome you, the Flyer community is a small but supportive community, and you haven't to offer $ from ROM's but what you always can do is donate money to developers working on ROM's to keep motivating them to improve their ROM's or bringing AOSP ICS closer