[Q] itunes / zune - Nokia Lumia 800

Any tips for using itunes to sync music for lumia 800? I've Windows 7 and I've yet to found anything related to this matter. I can't stand zune as the logic behind it seems terrible, atleast after few years of itunes.

oskariunit said:
Any tips for using itunes to sync music for lumia 800? I've Windows 7 and I've yet to found anything related to this matter. I can't stand zune as the logic behind it seems terrible, atleast after few years of itunes.
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Yeah, I don't think that's going to be happening any time soon. The possibility of being able to use other software to move music back and forth makes sense, but iTunes? ugh (personal opinion).
I, personally, do not use Zune to play back music or manage my 130GB library. i use it solely for the music I'd like to have on my Lumia 800. I've got mega storage space on my laptop, so it's a non issue for me.

oskariunit said:
Any tips for using itunes to sync music for lumia 800? I've Windows 7 and I've yet to found anything related to this matter. I can't stand zune as the logic behind it seems terrible, atleast after few years of itunes.
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iTunes user speaking, I loved the iTunes too, but after purchasing the Lumia, I had to do the same thing, move to Zune, it's not that different at all once you get used to it, it's almost a complete copy, but the interface in Zune is a whole lot better, just synching videos is god damn awful, it takes literally 5+ minutes to sync a 2-3min video clip, impossible to sync a movie, it'll take at least an hour. Shout out if you need any tips.

sHaHiN786 said:
iTunes user speaking, I loved the iTunes too, but after purchasing the Lumia, I had to do the same thing, move to Zune, it's not that different at all once you get used to it, it's almost a complete copy, but the interface in Zune is a whole lot better, just synching videos is god damn awful, it takes literally 5+ minutes to sync a 2-3min video clip, impossible to sync a movie, it'll take at least an hour. Shout out if you need any tips.
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It takes that long to sync videos probably because it's converting them at the same time. Check your CPU usage to know for sure.
Also, I'm willing to wager that Zune has better audio playback codecs. As of a year ago, iTunes was the worst in playback quality when using my ears as the testing tool.

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It takes that long to sync videos probably because it's converting them at the same time. Check your CPU usage to know for sure.
Also, I'm willing to wager that Zune has better audio playback codecs. As of a year ago, iTunes was the worst in playback quality when using my ears as the testing tool.
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Nah, that's changed, iTunes has got better, Zune hasn't enough bass and the treble is too high, if you're not happy with the sound on iTunes, it has an equalizer which Zune is lacking, big downer, that and the video syncing is what made Zune horrible.
I shall check if it's converting. Cheers.

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iTunes user speaking, I loved the iTunes too, but after purchasing the Lumia, I had to do the same thing, move to Zune, it's not that different at all once you get used to it, it's almost a complete copy, but the interface in Zune is a whole lot better, just synching videos is god damn awful, it takes literally 5+ minutes to sync a 2-3min video clip, impossible to sync a movie, it'll take at least an hour. Shout out if you need any tips.
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Thanks for the reply. 1 of the reason I asked as zune doesn't find my album art. I've all the album art in itunes, but in zune about 50% is missing.
Also how the dj function works, it's flawless in itunes, I've set it to randomly grab 50 songs from main playlist with better rated songs playing more often. I cant even find the thing in zune. And the rating sucks, why only like/notlike ffs
Also I dislike the interface alot. Can't get it to function how I like. It doesnt even say anything if I try to add songs to playlist where they already are, which makes imo the playlist function quite bad. As I wanted to make playlist for my lumia, and randomly update it with songs. It gets quite big so cant remember all the songs, and now I've duplicates bla bla. Sorry, bit frustrated .
Maybe I've to buy macbook so I can sync my wp7 device with itunes, sounds funny haha.

oskariunit said:
Thanks for the reply. 1 of the reason I asked as zune doesn't find my album art. I've all the album art in itunes, but in zune about 50% is missing.
Also how the dj function works, it's flawless in itunes, I've set it to randomly grab 50 songs from main playlist with better rated songs playing more often. I cant even find the thing in zune. And the rating sucks, why only like/notlike ffs
Also I dislike the interface alot. Can't get it to function how I like. It doesnt even say anything if I try to add songs to playlist where they already are, which makes imo the playlist function quite bad. As I wanted to make playlist for my lumia, and randomly update it with songs. It gets quite big so cant remember all the songs, and now I've duplicates bla bla. Sorry, bit frustrated .
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An album art addict, to me, music ain't music without its album art.
Album art was a problem, until I found out on how to do it manually, time consuming but, where you have your music collection, on the right, where you have genre, artist, album etc......click on album, then right click and edit the album info there to whichever song requires an album art. It is manual, but if they're all in albums, this easily attaches the album art to the tracks.
As an iTunes user, the tabs "artists" and "albums" on the right will work to your best to get used to the interface, just fiddle around with them for a while, it's what I did, and you'll adapt to it in a few hours, even now sometimes my head gets baffled with the interface, iTunes is just plain simple.
Ok for the playlist, it's easy. First click the "playlists" tab on the right, once there create new playlist. Once you've done that return to your music collection, right click your tracks and add to your selected playlist or drag the tracks to the playlist icon on the bottom left corner. It takes time, I admit that it p***** me off for weeks, but since you got these tips, you'll get used to it earlier than me.
Give me a shout if you need more tips.

How to get the DJ-function to work?

oskariunit said:
How to get the DJ-function to work?
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DJ function? Can you elaborate?

sHaHiN786 said:
DJ function? Can you elaborate?
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Smart DJ. http://www.zune.net/en-US/support/zunesoftware/features/smartdj.htm
It seems it's not availevable in all regions, which seems odd that you can't even use it with your own music.

oskariunit said:
Smart DJ. http://www.zune.net/en-US/support/zunesoftware/features/smartdj.htm
It seems it's not availevable in all regions, which seems odd that you can't even use it with your own music.
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Ahhh....did you do this first, go to settings > software > metadata and ratings > check automatically retrieve and update album art? As that should do the trick.

sHaHiN786 said:
Ahhh....did you do this first, go to settings > software > metadata and ratings > check automatically retrieve and update album art? As that should do the trick.
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thanks for the reply. Yeah i've got it set like that, no smart-dj functionality. Seems it's issue on the finnish version of the software.

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Music on Android

I'm a bit of an audiophile and for me the music side of things really is lacking in Android. Its absolutely fine for example if you come home in the evening and want to listen to a few albums, its 110% no problems at all.
I listen to music on my phone 8-9 hours a day at work and its a let down.
Getting songs on it for a start is a nightmare, sure you can plunk all in a music folder again fine for listening to an odd album or whatever but there is no sort of organisation, Say I want a playlist with song 2 from album E followed by song 1 from album C and so on this is a nightmare to create on the phone, this is where iTunes comes into its element. Sure we have things like Doubletwist, on paper it should be fantastic, but the reality is it duplicates songs and playlist and isn't even smart enough to recognize duplicates in your library, there is also things like Winamp and its wireless syncing, it takes forever and again duplicates.
Then we have the problem with MP4 files, My Galaxy S2 can recognize many files but has issues with MP4 files, you get song name but artist info etc all unknown, it can't read the tags.
Then general sound levels, I've tried 3 android phones over the years and all 3 are to low, they are about 70% that of an iPhone and this is fine for general listening but if your fave song comes on you like a bit of a boost and well you can't, I also work in quite a noisy environment and machinery can he heard over the top of the phone on full, there are apps like Volume+ which claim can boost the volume and well they can but it distorts so all rather pointless.
Then there is finding a player, I've notice volume differs between them all, and some can't read the playlists you've created so in the end i;ve had to stick to stock player, although crap its the best of a bad bunch.
A feature I also liked on iTunes was Genius, I could pick a song say a rock song, hit a button and it would create a playlist similar, even if this was possible on android it wouldn't work anyway as all the MP4 tags are fooked.
So as I say I take music seriously and I suspect 90% of people won't care about these issues but I do and am hoping for some good advise as don't want to go back to iPhone but at the moments its looking like the only solution as Android is so frustrating to use for music.
First off, look at Voodoo sound control from the android market. It's often times included in custom ROMs. It will allow you to pump the volume up far beyond the stock ROM's capabilities. There's quite a few other tweaks it offers that I'm sure you'll find. The only catch with Voodoo is that it's only compatible with certain Kernels.
As for media playback, "Music" by Google is pretty powerful. It's not the same program that many phones run stock. It has support for FLAC playback, Song info lookup, even lyric support.
I recommend you take a look at PowerAmp. I am a music nut like you and it does everything and more! There is a full featured trial version and to buy it is only a few bucks. Check it out.
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I have to use music by G but I wish it has some more useful features like 'query' or 'play after this song' such.
There will probably never be a mobile player that will do Replay Gain on the fly so i suggest your grab yourself a copy of mp3gain for your PC. Plug your phone in via USB, drag and drop your music from phone to program interface, set level to 92db, Scan Tracks and then Apply Gain.
92db may be higher than some of your tracks already are and may be lower than others. Find a level that gives you the audio boost you need. As all tracks are set to the same level you won't have to adjust volume between tracks during playback.
There are plenty of players with Playlist support so that's covered. Try one of the ones mentioned above.
I think i've found the answer by accident, I was using Media Monkey I noticed it has a feature to analyze the volume of tracks, so I got them all analyzed and noticed most were in or around -10db, I hit level which brought them up to 0 to +5db and I have noticed a good improvement, It also sorted out all my tagging and artwork issues and even synced my playlists perfectly to my phone.

How happy are you with Google Music?

What features would you like to see added/removed, and are you happy with it compared to the stock music app, or how do you feel it stacks up against another music app.
*This is a general topic, and I'm just curious to see the community's response.*
I don't use it. It doesn't have features I need.
Namely, ability to keep the screen from sleeping, and the ability to limit where it looks for music at.
i like gmusic. I dont use it daily (I use slacker daily) but gmusic works great when I do need it. Its far more reliable than when it first came out, so they're definitely making progress.
My only complaint is when I flash a new rom, it registers my phone as a new device so it adds it to gmusic (which is great) but google limits it to 8 devices. So occasionally I need to go into gmusic website and delete my old devices, which is all the same phone. Its not really a complaint for google but i wish there was a way for it to detect that its the same device/IMEI
I personally love google music I use it daily. I have a computer for school and don't want to cramp it up with music so I can stream everything. Also I use my phone in my truck for music and it is nice to have access to all my music when I need it.
Absolutely love it. I have my entire collection stored. My main problem lies when I'm doing file management and the media scanner starts while I'm playing music. Google Music stops streaming completely and I have to manually restart it. I turned caching off, so that the song being played is solely dependent on the connection, but it still does it. I suppose it stops to look for new songs that might have been added. I'd like it to at least resume playback when scanning stops.
The other thing is with optimization I guess. In my last billing cycle, I got throttled and streaming was impossible (as expected). However, Pandora was still able to stream entire songs, for long sessions without stutter (it just took longer between songs). I'm curious if it'd be possible for them to improve performance on slow networks, so that it's on par with Pandora.
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General is something related directly to the phone or an app that comes stock with the phone. GoogleMusic does not fit that description since it has to be installed by the user and not everyone uses it. This should have been in Themes and Apps. Just sayin'.
I wish it would sync with a folder on my phone with all my music, so that when it tries to play a song, it checks that folder on my phone first before downloading the song with a weird name in another random folder. That way, whenever I add a song on my computer to the Google Music Folder, it adds to my phone as well when I try to play it, keeping my music in sync.
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I wish it would sync with a folder on my phone with all my music, so that when it tries to play a song, it checks that folder on my phone first before downloading the song with a weird name in another random folder. That way, whenever I add a song on my computer to the Google Music Folder, it adds to my phone as well when I try to play it, keeping my music in sync.
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That'd be boss. Maybe in a future update?
I love google music.
Especially after switching from iTunes and my iPhone 4. I really hated iTunes haha
i like it on my zoom and Google TV. But I wish it would sync playlist too. A good playlist takes time and it wouldn't be nice to listen to them on phone, tablet and TV. The main thing that make be go back to the Samsung music player is that while connected to my Bluetooth stereo it shows track info on the stereo but the Google music doesn't. Not a big thing, but enough to keep me using the samsung player. If those two were fixed it would be a perfect player.
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I love google music.
Especially after switching from iTunes and my iPhone 4. I really hated iTunes haha
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I too converted, and couldn't be happier.
Absolutely love Google music. No complaints here, it works great. I'm really happy that Google came out with this app, I show everyone with an Android phone.
im using PowerAmp i think its better than gMusic
Not bad... Steaming better but still slower than other streaming apps.
My biggest complaint is music purchased can only be played in gmusic and can't be downloaded to phone or computer. Frustrating when I paid for something. if they keep prices at $4.99 album $.49 song I might get over it... Doubtful that will last.
Saw app in market that claims to make music portable though.
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mjgspr95 said:
Not bad... Steaming better but still slower than other streaming apps.
My biggest complaint is music purchased can only be played in gmusic and can't be downloaded to phone or computer. Frustrating when I paid for something. if they keep prices at $4.99 album $.49 song I might get over it... Doubtful that will last.
Saw app in market that claims to make music portable though.
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Just click on the song you purchased and click download. It will let you download it at 320k and no drm. Also the google music manager has an option to auto download any purchased songs to your pc automatically.
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I would really like to be able to download my music that was uploaded to google music. I had everything in itunes also, and one day after it was all uploaded itunes moved everything without me knowing it and that file got deleted on accident. Of course i didn't care at the time because nothing should have been there. Thanks itunes.
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Also the google music manager has an option to auto download any purchased songs to your pc automatically.
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Automagically? I missed that. Cool.
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My only complaint is the shuffle feature isnt very good at all, I only have a library of about 400 songs yet some songs I never hear when I use shuffle all n some songs I will hear twice in a 10 song span. I use gmusic daily n love it other than that.
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Love it!!!
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I wish there was a way to manage the songs on the server from the phone. I sent all my music to the server and now run across songs (when in shuffle) that I no longer want. Would like to delete the song off the server from my phone.
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Not bad... Steaming better but still slower than other streaming apps.
My biggest complaint is music purchased can only be played in gmusic and can't be downloaded to phone or computer. Frustrating when I paid for something. if they keep prices at $4.99 album $.49 song I might get over it... Doubtful that will last.
Saw app in market that claims to make music portable though.
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uhh, yes it can...

Music Syncing

I need to know what/how people are syncing their music with their phones. I purchased MediaMonkey for me and my gf (we both have I777) and was able to sync my playlist in MediaMonkey to the phone. However, I messed up the playlist. I added a file to the root of the external SD card called '.isaudioplayer' and that caused the m3u file to have incorrect paths. When I viewed the m3u file in a text editor on the phone, It said F:/Music/yadda. Obviously, F: is wrong. How are your playlists listed? Thanks for the assistance!
have you thought about using google music? No need to sync your music at all. Just stream from the app.
+1 on google music, I use it every day and love it
I have Google Music. I don't like it. The Android app sucks. I tell it to only play local music, and it plays online music anyway. The app won't reload it's list of music (after an upload to the SD card). I have to reboot the phone to get the app to see the new music. I have uploaded my library to Google Music, but I wasn't finished tagging the library correctly. So basically, I need to finish tagging the library correctly, erase everything on Google Music, and then re-upload. Then create playlists. Not to mention the fact, that I have MythTV at home to play music in my living room, and Subsonic to stream music to the phone/work desktop. I hate having to create playlists. That's the worst thing in the world. If Google actually created/released APIs for Google music, then MediaMonkey/MythTV could integrate (not to mention the really cool CM9 inspired new Music app out there).
I also received a message from AT&T telling me I was in the top 5% of users this month. I find that completely unbelievable. I only stream music for ~20 minutes a day. Be it from home via Subsonic, or Google Music. So having it local helps. Not to mention the GF is on my plan now, but we only gave her 2GBs. That will just be eaten up by Google Music.
But the biggest issue is I want the music on my phone because when I hit the fitness room in the basement of my office, I get 0 WLAN bars and 0 3G bars. So I need local music. GF also has the issue of signal strength where she goes.
Does anyone have a playlist.m3u file I could look at to see the proper format of the file? Also, is there anyone else like me out there that actually puts music on their phones now?
I tried media monkey, but ultimately it didn't work out for me. What I ended up doing was using winamp on the computer to sync my music and playlists to my phone, actually my SD card. I lose the ability to do wireless sync, but I like keeping all of my music on the external memory. Also, I didn't really like the winamp for android, so I switched to using playerpro. The playlists and everything work out very nicely, and they stay in sync.
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iSyncr or doubleTwist Airsync i'd suggest looking into. They are probably the top of the list aside from Google Music.
I've been using doubleTwist and it is everything i could need however it comes with a whole new Media Program to install (stills syncs with iTunes though).
iSyncr is nice if you only want to use iTunes because it's basically an "addon" and this way you don't need a whole new media managing program.
Google Music is very basic and simple. You might as well get it anyways as a backup but I don't personally like the app/online management of music; it is just too difficult to edit files. However if you want to go this route you can get Google Music Importer which will let you save the music you pin for offline mode from within the android app to be used in other music app's (otherwise you are forced with always using the Google Music app to play the music from online).
Tried iSync and doubletwist and settled on iSync. so I keep my music on itunes and just sync with the phone.
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I used iSyncr for a while, worked great, but I hated being tied down to iTunes. Bought MediaMonkey and, after some configs, I love it.
I have it set so that songs are:
/sdcard/MediaMonkey/Music/songs
And playlists:
/sdcard/MediaMonkey/Music/playlists
And I have the playlists to have relative paths, so drive letters don't matter.
PlayerPro works just fine with this setup. So does PowerAMP.
Here's my device config XML, just import in MediaMonkey if you like.
Syncing? What's that?
I just copy everything I want to listen to, to /my_music on the internal storage.
Edit: I don't use playlists either, blegh.
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Tried iSync and doubletwist and settled on iSync. so I keep my music on itunes and just sync with the phone.
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Thanks for the suggestions all. We are trying to move away from iTunes at home. The fact is that iTunes on Windows doesn't support FLAC audio. It does on OS X, but I'm not going that route. I guess I just deal with the faults of MediaMonkey. But really, if anyone can just attach their m3u file that WORKS on the Android phone, then I'd be grateful. Thanks!
I will upload a few sample m3u files when I get onto a computer.
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I linked you how to get MediaMonkey working perfectly for sync...
I use MediaMonkey. I have 40K+ songs to choose from to sync to a 32GB card, so I select a few playlists of select songs to fill it up. Auto-syncs every time I plug the MicroSD card into the computer (I hate having to shut the phone off, but I found syncing to be faster when the card is directly plugged in versus plugging the phone in).
No problems here. Syncing is fast and never have any issues.
I use iSyncr. Support for iTunes Smart playlist is a must for how I manage a series of ever changing playlists. Because it also maintains the correct smart playlist order (something that Apple messed up with iTunes 10.5/iOS5 on my iPod Touch) it syncs music better than iTunes does for my iPod.
Well I finally got this working. I found out that simply RIGHT clicking on a playlist, and telling it to sync to the mounted I777 will sync the music in that playlist, but NOT the actual playlist. Pretty crappy design in my opinion.
I figured it out last night. In Media Monkey, go to your device you want to sync. In the AUTO-SYNC tab, click on the playlists in the left pane of the device window. Then choose the playlists you want to auto-sync. Then go to the OPTIONS tab in that same device window, and tell it to "Create Playlists for:" and choose "Synced Playlists" (I'm not in front of MM now, but it's something like that option). Then tell it to use relative paths, and to swap the "\" for the "/". Done and done. PITA.
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Well I finally got this working. I found out that simply RIGHT clicking on a playlist, and telling it to sync to the mounted I777 will sync the music in that playlist, but NOT the actual playlist. Pretty crappy design in my opinion.
I figured it out last night. In Media Monkey, go to your device you want to sync. In the AUTO-SYNC tab, click on the playlists in the left pane of the device window. Then choose the playlists you want to auto-sync. Then go to the OPTIONS tab in that same device window, and tell it to "Create Playlists for:" and choose "Synced Playlists" (I'm not in front of MM now, but it's something like that option). Then tell it to use relative paths, and to swap the "\" for the "/". Done and done. PITA.
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I don't know why you chose to ignore my post with the MediaMonkey configuration that had all of that work done...
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I don't know why you chose to ignore my post with the MediaMonkey configuration that had all of that work done...
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I left work early, and didn't see it. Sorry. I really appreciate you posting it though!
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I left work early, and didn't see it. Sorry. I really appreciate you posting it though!
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Okay. Welcome!
CNLiberal said:
I also received a message from AT&T telling me I was in the top 5% of users this month. I find that completely unbelievable. I only stream music for ~20 minutes a day. Be it from home via Subsonic, or Google Music. So having it local helps. Not to mention the GF is on my plan now, but we only gave her 2GBs. That will just be eaten up by Google Music.
But the biggest issue is I want the music on my phone because when I hit the fitness room in the basement of my office, I get 0 WLAN bars and 0 3G bars. So I need local music. GF also has the issue of signal strength where she goes.
Does anyone have a playlist.m3u file I could look at to see the proper format of the file? Also, is there anyone else like me out there that actually puts music on their phones now?
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Google Music's online streaming uses A LOT of data. Even for 20 minutes worth. GM single handedly made me go over my data. They need to fix that. The only way around it is making songs available offline.
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Music streaming from google music is the same as everything else. A song is roughly 6mb, 20 minutes would be around 30mb downloaded. It does take an extreme about of data usage and other then uploading lower quality songs not much will change it. Make sure you don't have "download high quality"option in settings checked.
You can also pin songs to keep them usable offline.
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Decent "Media Go" alternative (better syncing)

Hi fellas,
I found a decent alternative to Media Go, which seems to have some flaws.
getsongbird.com/ (can't post links yet)
It's called "Songbird", and has both Windows and Mac apps, but also one for Android that contains a decent widget to place on your home screen. Seems to sync way better than the standard Media Go.
For those who are interested, here's a bit of a background story to it.
Just wanted to share what I've been messing around with today. Media Go is supposed to be what iTunes is to iPod/iPhone: a decent mediaplayer as well as a sync tool to sync your music and vids to your Xperia S and such.
Now I have a bit of an OCD when it comes to my iTunes library: everything needs to be perfectly organized with with correct mp3 tags and album art. So all the songs in my iTunes are as correct as it gets. But today, I wanted to sync my iTunes library to my Xperia S using Media Go. I was glad to see that they had incorporated "sync your iTunes library", so I did that and it added all my music. Looked pretty good, all the album art was still there and so on.
So I synced my music to the phone, only to find out that for some reason I still haven't been able to identify, it messed up quite a lot of songs. All of a sudden, I had 350 songs from "unknown artists" and stuff like that. Not good. Tried to find the source of these mistakes, fixed some tags here and there but on the phone, it stayed like that.
I then decided to try a third-party app called Songbird. It has a Windows app as well as a droid one and a widget, and I tried adding my iTunes library. Seemed to do the job, so I synced it to my phone and bam, no more unknown artists and a perfectly sorted music library on my phone. It's perfectly organized in the standard music player, but also in the Songbird droid app and the widgets both work like a charm.
So here's my tip for all you guys who also would like to have a perfect music library on their devices: use Songbird if Media Go ****s up.
Hope this helped some people.
Never heard of that app but really anything beats Media Go no?
I've been using an app called 'doubleTwist' for a couple of months now and it works perfect as well. You can easily select which iTunes playlist to Sync and all the rest is automatic.
So I can recommend that program to
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Never heard of that app but really anything beats Media Go no?
I've been using an app called 'doubleTwist' for a couple of months now and it works perfect as well. You can easily select which iTunes playlist to Sync and all the rest is automatic.
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Doubletwist works really well.
are there any new alternatives foe Media Go?

Why can't android developers make a working music player?

I'm sorry I know this isn't exactly the place to post this, and sorry for the all caps. But I AM TOTALLY ENRAGED BECAUSE NOBODY WOULD MAKE SOMETHING SO SIMPLE! and nobody would give an explanation as to why!
First of all, I know your music players can in fact, play music files, I tried every single music player avilable, yes I'm not kidding I tried all of them, over 50 of them. Most of them will start and play music. But that's not what's I'm after nor the reason I am so enraged.
Here is why:
THEY WON'T SHOW THE FULL ALBUM ART!!!!!
The ONLY music player, I repeat, the ONLY one out of over 50, that shows your embedded album art properly is the Neutron Music Player, but it's paied and I can't buy **** from the country I'm currently in. and the beep version is too old the touch controls suck.
WHY? WHY? WHY?
What's so difficult? You can make all these more difficult features work sometimes perfectly, but you can't make this very simple task of showing a jpeg image properly? Many of these features I have no idea why they have priority over showing an album art, especially when they seem more difficult to develop. I'm just glad I don't have an android tablet, I can't imagine how crappy it would look on one of those! I'm glad I use the iPad and all of my album art show perfectly in full quality it's just fantastic.
- lyrics and time stamped lyrics support. what's the point? most of you probably listen to music in your native language, what you can't understand what they're singing? Shouldn't you already know most of the lyrics in your collection? this seems like a difficult feature to develop because you have to make a scrollable surface for text ontop of the UI. Isn't that more difficult than just putting up a picture? in fact you have to show an album art anyway! why not just make it show the orginal one instead of the scaled down crappy version? it's like 5 minutes of coding!
- automaticly download album art and lyrics. I just don't get it, if you have pirated music you're too lazy to sort, get on a PC and there are plenty of programs for that! why would you do it over mobile network on your phone!?
-socal network intergration. I'm sorry I never use any of these features, I don't see the point of letting your friends know what you're listening every 5 minutes.
- n-band equalizer. get a better headphone, instead of your stock headset. it's 10 times more effective than any equalizer. the math involved in this must be very difficult especially those that can prevent capping or smooth the curve. Why does this have priority over the basic feature of showing an album art?
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A good music player is really very easy! but none of them will got that tiny final step! It's pissing me off!
Google Play Music: all you need to do is show the embedded album art, and get rid of that stupid blue background, just make it black!
Neutron Music Player: get someone to make you a new skin without all those 2006 style 3D effects.
Apollo Music Player: have an option to turn off the altomatic download, show the embedded album art.
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ok I just saw another thread giving out a bounty for a fix. Maybe I should do the same. I'll also put up a bounty of $50 for a music player that satisfies the following requirements:
-has the basic functions of a music player (play, pause, shuffle, supports MP3/FLAC/AAC)
-displays tag information such as artist, album, title, etc. with full support for unicode, no question marks, random symbols or squares.
-shows the FULL album art embedded in the file it is currently playing, with good quality scaling method without stretching, and without size limit (at least not below 2mb)
-appealing UI. For example, Apollo. Or some of the Chinese music players. Or the MIUI/ Meizu MX defult music players. NOT LIKE PowerAMP/ PlayerPro/ Neutron Player. The album art must at least fit inside the screen, meaning 720pixels wide or more.
-Power efficient, uses NEON instructions.
-buttery smooth
-ad free
optional:
-has lockscreen (Jelly Bean default) integration with FULL album art embedded in the file it is currently playing, with good quality scaling method.
-shows embedded lyrics
It does NOT have to include these features:
-sort by album/artist/recents or any other categories. as long as it has a list of songs I'm happy.
-anything to do with internet, streaming, downloading,free music none of that.
-equalizers, effects
woo you got a new phone there, what is it? android?
yea, the HTC one X on the latest Android 4.1 Jelly Bean! here have a try! it's smoother than iOS!
oh cool! I heard it's also quad-core right? must be really fast!
of cours, browsing is a breeze!
how about music? I see it's got Beats Audio, is it a good music player?
errrr well it makes sound, if that's what you mean. but the sound chip isn't exactly top notch.
wait, what's that? why do your album arts look like crap?
errrr, for some reason all android music players show the crappy scaled down version?
What? why? you're been talking about all these high end hardware, the Infinity Display, the quad-core processor and the 1GB RAM. All these, but you can't even see the full album art? WTF? what a piece of ****!
Don't forget to add proper album track listing in order.. My pet peeve
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Sony device had cool media player specially Xperia S. It ported to all android device give a try.
Have you tried PlayerPro, its a great simple music player on Android. Fell in love with it after got sick of PowerAMP cause when you hit the back on PowerAMP it goes back to the library and not to my homescreen.
Just Another★Gamer said:
Have you tried PlayerPro, its a great simple music player on Android. Fell in love with it after got sick of PowerAMP cause when you hit the back on PowerAMP it goes back to the library and not to my homescreen.
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It doesn't show the full album art. haven you even tried it before suggesting?
play doesnt use embedded art?
Ive used a few players over my stay with android, my vote is with google play music. jet audio player was pretty kick ass too but i didnt like the restricted options for free version(and it let the system dsp take over if present)
for google play music personally like the blue background, after all it matches the ics/jb theme. and unlike jet player, doesnt get choppy on lock/unlock and orientation change.
btw, embedded album art for google play... miss something?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/47004548/Screenshot_2012-08-23-23-43-20.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/47004548/Screenshot_2012-08-23-23-44-05.png
on the second screenshot shows why jb lockscreen integration and "FULL album art" wont always work. the jb system handles the album art on that.
jacobgong said:
It doesn't show the full album art. haven you even tried it before suggesting?
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Obviously I tried it, you know heres a funny thing I use PlayerPro and it does show full album art
N7player does a good job finding album art, better than iTunes IMO because I export my library from iTunes using iSyncr and iTunes has failed to locate album art for several albums I have however N7 can locate many more covers that are missing once on my phone in addition you can tell N7 to place the art in your music folder so it can be made available to other players if you don't like N7's interface. i keep just shy of 12GB of music on my phone and i'm pretty happy with the album art situation myself it's more complete than on my iPod or iPhone.
you also need to keep in mind that all players have to search a database in order to recover album art and making sure all the relevant info is in your ID3 tags will help alot in getting the correct art.
You don't need to whine to make a point (which you do, or maybe not as it seems that you didn't dig deep enough in your pursuit).
1) Here's a surprise for you: mobile phones, and particularly smartphones, have their screen turned off when they're used as MP3 players. They'll usually be stuck in a pocket, not displaying album art. They play music, and keeping the screen on to show the cover art takes a hit on the battery.
2) Here's another surprise for you: few people bother with album art. People play pirated music.
3) And here's another surprise for you:
most of you probably listen to music in your native language, what you can't understand what they're singing?
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is an utter falsehood. People will listen to whatever sounds cool to them, be it gangsta ebonics at its finest, Levan's Polka or J-Pop.
What has value in music apps is not cover art: that's tertiary for most people. What differentiates them is usually format support (yes, lossless formats are not a given in all players), sorting algorithms (yes, people want to sort their music) and interfaces (there I agree that an overhaul may be necessary in the top dogs).
Are you starring at your music album art while playing music and keep screen on?
I think most people just play music while screen off. Doesnt make sense. The most important of music player is how they produce sound quality! Not album art!
And one more things is go make you own music player if you good enough or DONT USE ANDROID!!!
BTW I prefer Google Play Music.
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- lyrics and time stamped lyrics support. what's the point? most of you probably listen to music in your native language, what you can't understand what they're singing?
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Lol well i'm from Australia and you think I must love listen to the horrible crap thats the so called "real" mainstream western music.
Apparently OP doesnt know how to use android.
If you never used a Droid phone, then dont buy a highend one!
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Rockbox.
mihovil13 said:
Apparently OP doesnt know how to use android.
If you never used a Droid phone, then dont buy a highend one!
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On the contrary, I'd start with the best phone possible. Otherwise you miss out on cool things. I'm very happy that I could pick the best Android phone of the time (Galaxy S) when I started using Android...
Hzu said:
Rockbox.
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if only x.x
Am I the only one who found Rockbox a little annoying to use?
poweramp and playerpro both show embedded art
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Am I the only one who found Rockbox a little annoying to use?
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Really? I found Rockbox the easiest to use. Simple, clutter-less, no-nonsense interface. The default Cabbie theme may not be that visually appealing though. So I changed to another one. At least it's a lot better.
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Really? I found Rockbox the easiest to use. Simple, clutter-less, no-nonsense interface. The default Cabbie theme may not be that visually appealing though. So I changed to another one. At least it's a lot better.
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I felt it seems to lack the nice interface that PlayerPro has.

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