I want to flash Virtuous Prime on my tablet, however I heard that if I use Titanium Backup to restore my apps, I shouldn't restore data after I install the rom. So does that mean I'll lose all my progress in all my games? And if so, is there another way to back them up that will allow me to keep my save data?
Backing up/restoring save game data with titanium backup should be no problem. Did it like 20 times on my phone never had issues.
You should not restore system app data though. User app data is usually OK.
clouds5 said:
Backing up/restoring save game data with titanium backup should be no problem. Did it like 20 times on my phone never had issues.
You should not restore system app data though. User app data is usually OK.
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Apparently it's different on the Prime. I've done the same thing on my phone.
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Apparently it's different on the Prime. I've done the same thing on my phone.
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I agree should be no issue with user app data. I am thinking the issues people are talking about is with system app data as the apps change.
As said, no issues. Games and most recreational apps do fine: many of the games on my Prime are straight from my phone's backups and I didn't lose a lick of save data and everything works. (except the apps that won't work no matter what of course)
You just don't want to restore system apps/data where they don't belong.
buxtahuda said:
As said, no issues. Games and most recreational apps do fine: many of the games on my Prime are straight from my phone's backups and I didn't lose a lick of save data and everything works. (except the apps that won't work no matter what of course)
You just don't want to restore system apps/data where they don't belong.
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Apparently it has something to do with the fact that you're going from stock to custom rom..people said it's a bad idea to backup apps on ASUS firmware, then restore them with data on a custom rom FOR THE PRIME. I'm simply talking about backing up on the prime, flashing virtuous, then restoring apps with data.
If that's safe, then I'll go ahead and flash. I just want to make sure first.
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Apparently it has something to do with the fact that you're going from stock to custom rom..people said it's a bad idea to backup apps on ASUS firmware, then restore them with data on a custom rom FOR THE PRIME. I'm simply talking about backing up on the prime, flashing virtuous, then restoring apps with data.
If that's safe, then I'll go ahead and flash. I just want to make sure first.
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I mean, as far as my own little chrome takes me, all will be fine.
I don't think any major changes were made in Virtuous which effect the actual filesystem/setup (am I wrong?) so any references the app has made should still be valid. The only issue will of course be the wiping of the internal SD card, so you'll want to make a copy of all the files to an external mSD to be copied back over.
Don't try based on my interpretations and assumptions, but I foresee no issue. Again, just don't try to backup and restore anything dealing with ASUS.
They're likely saying that to try and minimize the number of posts they'd get concerning the ROM breaking a bunch of apps, when really a bunch of apps should not have been restored.
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I've searched through the forums and tried a couple of apps to backup apps/data myself, but I'd be curious to get some feedback as to what the best backup app is. Most of the postings I've seen mentioned Titanium Backup and My Backup Pro. Titanium seems quite complicated in as much as there are a plethora of batch operation options. On the other hand, I didn't see an option to backup SMS/MMS/Bookmarks/etc. the way My Backup does. My Backup also seems far simpler to use. I guess the real question is, which one (or an alternative) is most accurate or reliable in both backing up and restoring apps and their associated data?
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I've searched through the forums and tried a couple of apps to backup apps/data myself, but I'd be curious to get some feedback as to what the best backup app is. Most of the postings I've seen mentioned Titanium Backup and My Backup Pro. Titanium seems quite complicated in as much as there are a plethora of batch operation options. On the other hand, I didn't see an option to backup SMS/MMS/Bookmarks/etc. the way My Backup does. My Backup also seems far simpler to use. I guess the real question is, which one (or an alternative) is most accurate or reliable in both backing up and restoring apps and their associated data?
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Actually Titanium Backup does save your txt and stuff but you have to save them through the explore option, I have never tried Backup Pro so I can't talk about how bad/good it is compared to TB.
But with Titanium backup you can backup any apk or system settings that are your phone, its actually the best money I have ever spent on the phone. I guess there can be a learning curve but its actually fairly simple to use. I mean there is free version of it, but to really see TB in action you need the "donate" version. TRUST ME you wont regret buying TB.
I use Mybackup pro, and it has been well worth the money I paid for it. I have never used Titanium but MyBackup does all that I need it to.
Titanium backup is by far the best money I have spent ....can't speak for my backup pro
TB is definitely not that difficult to use, I don't use it to back up email or sms just cuz my email (both acct's) are web based and .....I am always that deletes my texts regularly....
though I know you can do it with it.... it does save all my other settings though ....so no resetting up my other apps , other then gmail so that I can download titanium
OK, I've gone with Titanium. It just seems far more flexible and comprehensive and comparison test I have run proved it more accurate. I havent quite figured how to get it to backup sms/mms/bookmarks/etc. but I have the apps part down and it works like a champ. And while I'm on the subject, it's be quite nice if I had a flashable zip that installed Titanium but that's something I have no idea how to do.....but I'll figure it out.
Sorry for this but I have more Titanium questions.
1) If I have A2SD running TB doesn't seem to be aware of apps installed on the ext partition. What's the solution here? Move the apps, back them up, move them back to ext? A configuration issue with TB?
2) Try as I might, I can't seem to get backup of SMS/MMS to work. I backup what seems appropriate but when I restore I get nothing. My guess here is I'm backing up the wrong things or missing something I should be backing up.
Any ideas/help would be greatly appreciated.
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Sorry for this but I have more Titanium questions.
2) Try as I might, I can't seem to get backup of SMS/MMS to work. I backup what seems appropriate but when I restore I get nothing. My guess here is I'm backing up the wrong things or missing something I should be backing up.
Any ideas/help would be greatly appreciated.
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The item you are looking for in the Backup/Restore tab is called [SMS/MMS/APN Dialer] storage. If you restore this, a reboot seems to be required before your data is visible.
Ive been thinkn about getting titanium backup. Im trying to find out who has it already n who used it with success after updates. Especially one after ICS. So from what I heard/read it can back up apps n games and the system stuff n data. FOR the apps n games it actually backs up the apk or makes copies of them? Like lets say you know there's an update coming or you might have to send tablet to Asus. what steps would you use with Titanium Backup to make sure you can go back to the same apps n setup you had before? I thought I read somewhere here someone had an issue trying to restore info after an update. Is this true? Also I don't have an external micro SD card yet. Is this needed for Titanium or is that the best way to back up? Would backing it up on the Prime itself do any good or will it get wiped on an update or by Asus if sent in?
I have around 150-200 apps already n set alot of stuff up n hate having to manually try to do everything again. IS the built in Asus Backup any good or works just as good as Titanium? Doesn't it back up to the cloud or something or is it on the prime itself or external memory card? Does it do the data n system setup also?
Sorry for all the questions. Never used it before and figured might be time to make sure my stuff doesn't get erased. THANKS IN Advance for any info/help
A must have tool - Work fine with ICS 4.0.3
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Ive been thinkn about getting titanium backup. Im trying to find out who has it already n who used it with success after updates. Especially one after ICS. So from what I heard/read it can back up apps n games and the system stuff n data. FOR the apps n games it actually backs up the apk or makes copies of them? Like lets say you know there's an update coming or you might have to send tablet to Asus. what steps would you use with Titanium Backup to make sure you can go back to the same apps n setup you had before? I thought I read somewhere here someone had an issue trying to restore info after an update. Is this true? Also I don't have an external micro SD card yet. Is this needed for Titanium or is that the best way to back up? Would backing it up on the Prime itself do any good or will it get wiped on an update or by Asus if sent in?
I have around 150-200 apps already n set alot of stuff up n hate having to manually try to do everything again. IS the built in Asus Backup any good or works just as good as Titanium? Doesn't it back up to the cloud or something or is it on the prime itself or external memory card? Does it do the data n system setup also?
Sorry for all the questions. Never used it before and figured might be time to make sure my stuff doesn't get erased. THANKS IN Advance for any info/help
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I'm using it years ago and is just excellent to backup all the apps on all your android devices. It work really good with ICS. It allows you to save all your app and the data of it. Is a must have tool.
You can try it free, you just have to restore one by one which is a major pain. Also on my bionic some apps don't restore right and it hangs, remember that app and don't check it in the batch list, then try and restore just the app and then just data. That problem may be because I was using t bolt backups on the bionic, but I never had any problems on my Droid X or t bolt.
Titanium backup is the greatest! I have used it for many years across multiple devices. Every time I was getting ready to flash a different rom I would run a backup, flash the rom, and then titanium all my apps back.
Not sure if you have to have an sd card or not, I have always had one when using it. Most of the issues seem to come when people try to restore /system data after flashing to a different rom. All I backup and restore is apps under /data.
It wont backup home screens, widgets on home screens, ringer settings etc. Only apps. Also, with that many apps you are going to want to spring for the premium version. In the free version when you are restoring apps you have to click install on every single one of them. Premium version does it automatically.
I use it and bought the pro key. I love it. Especially when you flash roms. Makes it so much easier. I highly recommend pro. Other wise you will have to it install for each app.
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Thanks for the info! Anyone know if the Asus built in backup is just as good? Ill more than likely get this asap.
I'm not sure it would restore old apps from HC to ICS well but I haven't tried it. Otherwise it does everything you want. Restoring system files doesn't work so well sometimes but you can manually do that. You can also use it to restore data only to apps like the Alarm Clock for all of your times. One nice thing about the pro version is you can freeze apps which basically removes them from your system but doesn't delete them all the way. Deleting system apps can be an issue when it comes time to update as ASUS updates will not work if you have deleted system files.
It will work on different versions. I backed up on gingerbread and restored on ics on my phone.
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Atrix is my first android device, and I've learned a lot about it.
One thing I love is the ability to back up apps and data using TiBu (titanium backup)
Now I am thinking of ending my run with the atrix and picking up a new android phone (most likely the Note).
Since I've invested a lot of time into apps and games (ok mostly games) on my Atrix --- is there a way I can restore my saved data onto a new Android phone?
Would importing the files from my TiBu backups onto the new phone, and then restoring just "data only" instead of "App+data" work?
If not, is there another way?
Thanks in advance!
Nothing? So I'm just gonna try backing up to sd and putting that in new phone.
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I've done it going from moto to moto, but when coming from flipside to atrix, I had to go "find" where all the backups were. Pointed tibu to the right directory and viola, everything there. Just remember don't restore system apps. Oh and drag racing you have to start all over again no matter saved or not. I gave up after the 3rd time with that game.
Restoring apps + data will cause you nothing but trouble. I used to do this and it caused a number of apps to go 'rogue' and wouldnt let my phone go to sleep like it should. Prevented it from going to sleep. Once I stopped using TiBu my battery life saw a tremendous increase.
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i was planning on restoring "only data" -- and re-downloading the apps that i need.
then after -- deleting all backedup data, then doing a backup of the current apps..
we'll see if it works, i got a couple more months until i do though
Almost all my data has been stored by default to my internal storage. Pictures, DL's, I figure I will sync to my laptop and back them up there, but there must be an easier way all you flash addicts are doing it. And TB is still preferred method to back up and restore all apps, msgs and call logs?
Is there a good startup noob guide? Things change so fast around here I never know if the guides are now obsolete.
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Clockworkmod recovery......for a complete backup...
and although TB is a great app, it seems to cause as many problems as it solves..
the app pulls data into a fresh build (on occasion) and causes problems when setting up..
I personally load "all" of my apps from the market again, on a fresh rom install....g
Most would store their downloads and pics on the external sd card. Contacts should be made google contacts that way they sync automatically. And Titanium backup works well. You just have to know what to restore. Issues are usually attributed to user error by not knowing fully what they are doing.
Taking everyone's valuable suggestions one step further, send backups from external sd card to Google Drive or Dropbox.
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Clockworkmod recovery......for a complete backup...
and although TB is a great app, it seems to cause as many problems as it solves..
the app pulls data into a fresh build (on occasion) and causes problems when setting up..
I personally load "all" of my apps from the market again, on a fresh rom install....g
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Most would store their downloads and pics on the external sd card. Contacts should be made google contacts that way they sync automatically. And Titanium backup works well. You just have to know what to restore. Issues are usually attributed to user error by not knowing fully what they are doing.
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Taking everyone's valuable suggestions one step further, send backups from external sd card to Google Drive or Dropbox.
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So you change the default settings of where to store dl's and photos every time you flash a new rom?
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When I restore I log in to google and get TiBU.
I make sure it knows my backup folder location.
I restore the apps I backed up. Never select restore system apps.
Then I restore sms and calls. When I restored those apps they get their settins restore so I don't have to do anything.
So the only location I check/change is TiBU.
I used to CWM but now I use TWRP for flashing and creating backups. I also use TB pro and I have to say I haven't had any problems but I do only restore apps and their data and nothing else. I also have become a fan of My Backup. I am able to backup and restore how I have my icons saved on my screen. Makes it real easy and quick to get back up and running.
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You can save the launcher and it's data with tibu also, no need for a second app...That's what i do
hell some launchers have a backup option built into them.
Serious? Well face palm myself. I never paid attention that TB did.
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Just so you know, nothing on your internal or external SD is affected by flashing a ROM. Sounds like you think you might lose your pictures and downloads. They will be safe unless you format them.
OK, so I bought the pro version of TiBu, actually had a tough time getting it to sync with the free version and recognize the key on fresh rom install....
But my bigger problem after rom install hand TiBU restore...I am getting 3 errors and it caused the phone to hang so bad, had to do a factory reset and start from scratch with everything.
1. Calendar sync not working properly
2. Messages sync not working properly
3. Android.process.acore not working properly.
I would love to flash roms more often but dont out of fear of having to restore everything I liked back manually (I have to learn how to backup launcher too BC that is a big time factor in setup after a flash)
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The trick is the System Apps. If they're Green then you can usually backup and restore them without any issue. If they're Red then you shouldn't back them up and restores won't be useful.
For some of the Green items (e.g., messages, bookmarks, call log) there's a Yellow equivalent which indicates XML. For these, you should favor the XML since it'll restore across ROMs better.
For all apps, if you switch between ROMs that are extremely different (for example, if you jump straight from stock GB to CM9(ICS) then there can be problems. You can usually get around these by uninstalling the offending app, installing from Play Store and then restoring just the data.
Hello,
Just curious. But what do you guys use to transfer your data between phones?
I want atleast my apps and sms transfered.
Bonus perks if it can transfer the app settings/saved games.
What do you guys use?
It's never a good idea to restore to much Data, especially between Devices. Restoring SMS / MMS should not really be an issue. Neither should games. Although again it could possibly cause issues. I use TB ( Titanium Backup Pro ) to restore apps sometimes. Works great. Although I try to avoid restoring Data.
You can use Titanium Backup to backup everything on your old phone to a External SD Card, then take the SD Card and put it into your New Phone's slot. Then Download Titanium Backup on your new phone and restore everything.
i have titanium back up and its good. It feels a lil over complicated to recommend it to friends though. even i had to play with it for 10 min to understand how it works lol but it seems thats the prevailing option. Was wondering if there was anything else out there i didnt know of.