I read somewhere that you can log into your att account and see what data plan you are on to ensure you can get HSPA+s speeds but i cant find that info anymore. does anyone know?
My roomate came from a samsung captivate to an atrix 4g and we want to make sure he's getting the full speed possible
If u own an matrix 4g you're deffinatrly never going to get 4g speed because real 4g doesn't exist yet h+ is jut a bit faster than 3g and deffinately limited and there no extra charge for h+ because it isn't much different.
Download speed test on the market and u can see ur up and down speeds
At best it is 3.5G and depending where you live you won't see h+ speeds but wish u luck
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If u own an matrix 4g you're deffinatrly never going to get 4g speed because real 4g doesn't exist yet h+ is jut a bit faster than 3g and deffinately limited and there no extra charge for h+ because it isn't much different.
Download speed test on the market and u can see ur up and down speeds
At best it is 3.5G and depending where you live you won't see h+ speeds but wish u luck
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I know all this, as i have an LTE nexus on verizon
but i still want to know how to check if his account is setup for HSPA+ after coming from a non "4g" att phone
Att requires a smartphone data plan with the purchase of the atrix. All att data plans have the same speed. If he bought the phone through att, he has a data plan, he has att "4g".
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Att requires a smartphone data plan with the purchase of the atrix. All att data plans have the same speed. If he bought the phone through att, he has a data plan, he has att "4g".
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From what I've read, there are 3 different data plans. Basic smart phone, smart phone with 4g, and some other one I don't know.
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From what I've read, there are 3 different data plans. Basic smart phone, smart phone with 4g, and some other one I don't know.
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(All data plans do not have the same speed as someone else stated).
The other one is iPhone data plan. Actually, I believe there is also a BB plan.
When you purchase an Atrix they automatically put you on the correct data plan, so you need to check nothing. That data plan will be 2GB, 4GB, or unlimited data on 4G, which is not real 4G as was already stated.
If you are really that concerned about your roommate's data plan, tell him to call AT&T for crying out loud and talk to them!
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(All data plans do not have the same speed as someone else stated).
The other one is iPhone data plan. Actually, I believe there is also a BB plan.
When you purchase an Atrix they automatically put you on the correct data plan, so you need to check nothing. That data plan will be 2GB, 4GB, or unlimited data on 4G, which is not real 4G as was already stated.
If you are really that concerned about your roommate's data plan, tell him to call AT&T for crying out loud and talk to them!
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He didn't purchase it from att, got one off Craig's list . He has a grandfathered unlimited plan. We all know how dumb customer service reps can be.
Ok so you know the plan. Unlimited. that's all it will say on the site. If you insist, you log in and navigate to your account and plan settings. If you want to test speed, download speedtest from the market.
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under Mobile Network Type, you should see "HSPA". That is the best ya gonna get from most AT&T connections (so called 3.5G) I don't recall ever seeing it say HSPA+. If you have UMTS, you are getting old "mediaNet" speeds, probably a fallback from a crappy signal from the tower. I don't know how the 4gLTE displays.
edit: this is indicative of what type of signal you are getting, not what plan you have. But if you have HSPA, you got the plan you want.
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settings-about phone-status
under Mobile Network Type, you should see "HSPA". That is the best ya gonna get from most AT&T connections (so called 3.5G) I don't recall ever seeing it say HSPA+. If you have UMTS, you are getting old "mediaNet" speeds, probably a fallback from a crappy signal from the tower. I don't know how the 4gLTE displays.
edit: this is indicative of what type of signal you are getting, not what plan you have. But if you have HSPA, you got the plan you want.
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Not an expert on att so not trying to argue, but according to this, just because your seeing hspa signal, does not mean you are getting enhanced speeds.
http://gdgt.com/discuss/how-i-was-finally-provisioned-for-4g-on-my-atandt-galaxy-nexus-i8z/
The different data plans do not affect speed, just the amount of data you can use. You are limited to what your phone's hardware can do and your coverage.
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Hi everyone,
I have AT&T's Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan ($30.00/mo) as many of you do. However, my concern is that I am not "enabled" for 4G speeds because I am on that plan and not on of their tiered 4G data plans. Since I know so many of you are on the unlimited data plan I am thinking that maybe there is one that enables 4G and another that doesn't.
The reason why I say this is that I live in downtown Manhattan and I have never gotten download speeds much higher than 2Mbps. The upload speeds, I know, are limited. However, I have seen people saying they are getting download speeds of 5-7Mbps! I get nothing even approaching those speeds.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi everyone,
I have AT&T's Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan ($30.00/mo) as many of you do. However, my concern is that I am not "enabled" for 4G speeds because I am on that plan and not on of their tiered 4G data plans. Since I know so many of you are on the unlimited data plan I am thinking that maybe there is one that enables 4G and another that doesn't.
The reason why I say this is that I live in downtown Manhattan and I have never gotten download speeds much higher than 2Mbps. The upload speeds, I know, are limited. However, I have seen people saying they are getting download speeds of 5-7Mbps! I get nothing even approaching those speeds.
Thanks in advance.
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There is a "4g" enabled unlimited plan. You should be on it if you upgraded through an At&t sales location. On the other hand, if you just swapped your SIM (or an uninformed sales rep did) then you may not be.
There are definitely different SOC codes. The easiest way to find out is to call and ask.
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There is a "4g" enabled unlimited plan. You should be on it if you upgraded through an At&t sales location. On the other hand, if you just swapped your SIM (or an uninformed sales rep did) then you may not be.
There are definitely different SOC codes. The easiest way to find out is to call and ask.
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Thanks for letting me know about the different types. I was afraid to call and have them force me into a 2GB plan after finding out that I have an Atrix. I did buy the phone from an AT&T store, but I don't think he changed my plan.
I've been feeling pretty down with my "4G" phone giving me speeds like 1.5Mbps down and .2 up in Manhattan. Simply ridiculous.
RE: 4G
I have heard that AT&T hasn't enabled "4G" yet. Google "Atrix 4G" and check out news results.
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Hi everyone,
I have AT&T's Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan ($30.00/mo) as many of you do. However, my concern is that I am not "enabled" for 4G speeds because I am on that plan and not on of their tiered 4G data plans. Since I know so many of you are on the unlimited data plan I am thinking that maybe there is one that enables 4G and another that doesn't.
The reason why I say this is that I live in downtown Manhattan and I have never gotten download speeds much higher than 2Mbps. The upload speeds, I know, are limited. However, I have seen people saying they are getting download speeds of 5-7Mbps! I get nothing even approaching those speeds.
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't seen anyone saying they're getting speeds that fast. Highest I've seen is 5mbps from a Bell user.
Hello All! First off, this is my first post on this forum, and I must say, that I am glad to be a part of a "community" that is passionate about mobile technology!
Question: I currently use an iPhone 3Gs on AT&T. I have the unlimited data and text message plan. If I decide to purchase an unlocked GS2, will my 3G sim card out of my iphone work in the GS2? Also, will I be able to keep my unlimited data and text plan?
Thanks in advance!
As far as I know, and from my experience. Yes.
I am also on that plan, and it works great for me in NYC. HSPA+ 95 percent of the time.
yes, because technically, youre not cancelling the original plan.
Thanks for the reply everyone! So just to clarify, my regular iPhone 3G sim will fit and work on the GS2? Will I only be able to receive 3G connectivity since I don't have a 4G sim or data plan?
Yes it will fit but not sure about the other question.
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Anyone know if I will only be able to receive 3G connectivity since I do not have a 4G sim card? Also, will I have to call in to AT&T customer service to have them activate the GS2?
jroc151 said:
Anyone know if I will only be able to receive 3G connectivity since I do not have a 4G sim card? Also, will I have to call in to AT&T customer service to have them activate the GS2?
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You will receive 4g speeds ( actually hsdpa + which att calls 4g)
U dont need to activate ur phone in att to get it to work with data or phone
To activate the 4g network for ur phone u will need an imei from atrix or other ATT 4g plan.
The imei of SGS 2 wont show up in ATT network as a 4g phone as they do not have that data base.
There is big thread here on how to thistopic - The pages 8-11 , I think are more fruitful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983
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You will receive 4g speeds ( actually hsdpa + which att calls 4g)
U dont need to activate ur phone in att to get it to work with data or phone
To activate the 4g network for ur phone u will need an imei from atrix or other ATT 4g plan.
The imei of SGS 2 wont show up in ATT network as a 4g phone as they do not have that data base.
There is big thread here on how to thistopic - The pages 8-11 , I think are more fruitful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983
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Thanks for the info drgopoo! How do I go about obtaining a valid 4G IMEI from such devices?
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Thanks for the info drgopoo! How do I go about obtaining a valid 4G IMEI from such devices?
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i used my wife's atrix. Some people had luck by going to the att store and getting one from one of the reps
Even though I love the GS2, having to locate a "4G IMEI" to get the phone to work on AT&T sounds like too much work!
Hate to say it, but I think I may end up waiting for the AT&T variant (ATTAIN) to come out this year. Sucks there isn't a release date in sight as of yet!
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Even though I love the GS2, having to locate a "4G IMEI" to get the phone to work on AT&T sounds like too much work!
Hate to say it, but I think I may end up waiting for the AT&T variant (ATTAIN) to come out this year. Sucks there isn't a release date in sight as of yet!
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The phone WILL WORK on AT&T no matter what. You will get H+ service no matter what. However if you are switching SIM from a 3G phone, most likely your H+ speed will be capped at like 6 Mbps. To unlock at&t backhaul that is not capped, you OPTIONALLY may want to call in an ask them to change your existing plan to the plan they have for AT&T certified 4G devices like the Infuse. In order to do that, AT&T needs a random IMEI number from such a device. You can give them ANY number. Just stop buy AT&T store, take a look at a display Infuse, go to menus to see the IMEI and take a picture of that screen, then give that number to AT&T rep.
This is just how their plan changing software works, it needs a capable IMEI to put you on the "4G" network.
Just to reiterate , by default imported SGS2 will work on 3g and 4g on AT&T, 4G "may-be" capped though at 6 or so Mbps. I personally do not give two ****s about this capping because only on a rare day I can get more than 3 Mbps in my market (New York) where AT&T sucks tremendously. So I did not bother to call in and upgrade.
Note though, that you do NOT want to call in and upgrade if you are on a dumbphone plan.
Why would you not go back to Media Net plan? It costs 10 bucks with messaging plan, its unlimited and you get H+ speed.
drgopoos said:
You will receive 4g speeds ( actually hsdpa + which att calls 4g)
U dont need to activate ur phone in att to get it to work with data or phone
To activate the 4g network for ur phone u will need an imei from atrix or other ATT 4g plan.
The imei of SGS 2 wont show up in ATT network as a 4g phone as they do not have that data base.
There is big thread here on how to thistopic - The pages 8-11 , I think are more fruitful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983
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Thanks for the info.
I am currently using my Unlimited Data plan of my iPhone 4 on my SGS2.
I bought this simtray that can hold the micro sim so it fits in the SGS2.
The speeds I get are on the so called 4G network H+ but I am not that impressed for now.
Right now the Upload speed I get is 2.2Mbps Down / 0.79Mbps Up and 138ms Ping. I believe this could be better.
I guess I will try to get the IMEI changed with an Atrix as mentioned.
*Update*
So I just talked with ATT over chat when I logged on to their website.
I lied to them and told them I had an ATT ATRIX 4G and needed the right speed.
They asked me for the IMEI, so I searched for an ATT ATRIX 4G IMEI on Google , they changed it on my account and now I have unlimited HSPA dataplan.
I did some tests with the APN both give more or less the same results but the area I am currently at is not that great for H+ but I did see improvement in the upload speed.
Right now I have 2.39Mbps Down / 1.03Mbps Up and 142ms ping.
Will try it out tonight when I am more close to H+ areas but my iPhone SIM just works fine in my SGS2
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This is just how their plan changing software works, it needs a capable IMEI to put you on the "4G" network.
Just to reiterate , by default imported SGS2 will work on 3g and 4g on AT&T, 4G "may-be" capped though at 6 or so Mbps. I personally do not give two ****s about this capping because only on a rare day I can get more than 3 Mbps in my market (New York) where AT&T sucks tremendously. So I did not bother to call in and upgrade.
Note though, that you do NOT want to call in and upgrade if you are on a dumbphone plan.
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I currently have the unlimited data plan on my iPhone 3Gs. I do not want to lose it downgrading myself to the cappeed bandwidth plan. Will the standard AT&T 3G sim card (non-micro sim chip) work in the GS2? Does the imported GS2 come with a sim tray?
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Thanks for the info.
I am currently using my Unlimited Data plan of my iPhone 4 on my SGS2.
I bought this simtray that can hold the micro sim so it fits in the SGS2.
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The GS2 doesn't not come with a sim card tray???
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I currently have the unlimited data plan on my iPhone 3Gs. I do not want to lose it downgrading myself to the cappeed bandwidth plan. Will the standard AT&T 3G sim card (non-micro sim chip) work in the GS2? Does the imported GS2 come with a sim tray?
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The GS2 doesn't not come with a sim card tray???
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No SIM tray in the package, SGS2 was not build for Apple converts.
Your unlimited 3G will be grandfathered if you put that SIM (with your own adapter) into the SGS2.
Further, I believe (but am NOT sure) you can call in and ask them to "mark" your grandfathered unlimited plan as 4G by telling them your new device is an Infuse or Atrix and giving them the IMEI, per the numerous posts here. I repeat, I did NOT do it myself, so I can't 100% assure you can do it and will not lose anything.
I just upgraded my Unlimited 3g plan to 4g and at&t accidentally put me on the 2gb limited plan and removed my txt messaging. Don't know how the rep made this mistake.
Wasnt a big deal to resolve and get back the unlimited plan. Just make sure you clarify multiple times.
Btw, my 4g and 3g speeds suck in salt lake city. Can't get higher than 2mb download.
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I just upgraded my Unlimited 3g plan to 4g and at&t accidentally put me on the 2gb limited plan and removed my txt messaging. Don't know how the rep made this mistake.
Wasnt a big deal to resolve and get back the unlimited plan. Just make sure you clarify multiple times.
Btw, my 4g and 3g speeds suck in salt lake city. Can't get higher than 2mb download.
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My understanding is that once you switch from 3G to 4G, AT&T will remove the unlimited data and ask to put you on one of their new data plans. THis is how they are getting people to let go of the unlimited data. Is this true?
So looks like the ATT Titan is being throttled on ATT according to wpcentral and a bunch of people are reporting no faster data speeds than around 4Mbps. So that means its most likely category 8 HSDPA instead of cat 10. Is there any way to check this or to change the data speeds through the registry or diagnostics mode or what not?
Thanks in advance!
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This is a device specific question, not in the WP7 Development section please.
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I get 3.5mbps
Get the free app 'Bandwidth'
I'll be doing speed tests on my HD2 and I sure hope H doesn't have the same speed as the H+ or "4G" they had to put me on a separate plan for. I guarantee you they'll be upping the prices shortly...
edit: I'm fairly angry: My HD2, running WP7 7440 just got ~4.00mbps, but curiously after several tests I've found myself throttled to 0.87...
Ive gotten up to 6Mbps up and 7.5Mbps down.
Im on at&t
uncled1023 said:
Ive gotten up to 6Mbps up and 7.5Mbps down.
Im on at&t
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Eastern, central, or western US?
link68759 said:
Eastern, central, or western US?
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Western US. CA
I get horrible results, 1.8 down and 1 up. On android I was getting 3.5 +. And I have full bars so I don't know what's up
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galdal said:
I get horrible results, 1.8 down and 1 up. On android I was getting 3.5 +. And I have full bars so I don't know what's up
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I was able to get 5.5 on the titan in a different section of my house, or maybe it was because I used a different server... anyway, I'm a bit happier.
what do you mean ATT put you on a seperate plan for 4G? There is no such thing.
ATT has separated data plans into specifically 3G and 4G. They cost the same at the moment, but they could raise the monthly cost of the 4G data plans, which is probably why they are advertising some phones as 4G that aren't actually 4G...
Do any of you know if my old sim which is labeled 3g from my focus will even allow 4g speeds? I put that old 3g sim into my new HTC Titan and the fastest i've gotten is 3.25Mbps down but I consistently get 2.5-3 though. Even with full bars around 3Mbps down.
link68759 said:
ATT has separated data plans into specifically 3G and 4G. They cost the same at the moment, but they could raise the monthly cost of the 4G data plans, which is probably why they are advertising some phones as 4G that aren't actually 4G...
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The 4G plan is for marketing and data collection purposes, it actually has no effect on what your phone can or cannot do in terms of your data connection.
You can have a "4G" phone and have a regular data plan and your data speeds will be no different than with a 4G data plan.
Giving the same feature multiple names is a common marketing tactic and also helps AT&T get data on how their products are being sold to customers. And yes, it also means on day they could throw extra charges on certain plan types, but so far they have yet to do that.
Kinda like Sprint's extra $10 Premium Data pack they force onto smartphones. All their phones access the same data network, but they just charge you a little more for having a smartphone yet the Premium Data pack really doesn't do a thing at all to change how data is served to a feature phone or a smartphone.
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Do any of you know if my old sim which is labeled 3g from my focus will even allow 4g speeds? I put that old 3g sim into my new HTC Titan and the fastest i've gotten is 3.25Mbps down but I consistently get 2.5-3 though. Even with full bars around 3Mbps down.
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The only phones that use a new SIM card are AT&T's 4G LTE phones. Any 3G phones sold in the past 5 years or so should be using the regular 3G SIM card that works fine with AT&T's "4G" plans/phones. "4G" is nothing more than a marketing tactic for 3G HSPA+.
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The only phones that use a new SIM card are AT&T's 4G LTE phones. Any 3G phones sold in the past 5 years or so should be using the regular 3G SIM card that works fine with AT&T's "4G" plans/phones. "4G" is nothing more than a marketing tactic for 3G HSPA+.
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I don't know about that. All I know is everytime I change my SIM card, my service gets better. I had problems with my Focus staying on 3G. Changed the SIM, smooth as butter. Since they are free, I suggest everyone should change their SIM when they get a new phone.
so is there any way of changing this like you could on the samsung focus through the diagnositics menu?
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The 4G plan is for marketing and data collection purposes, it actually has no effect on what your phone can or cannot do in terms of your data connection.
You can have a "4G" phone and have a regular data plan and your data speeds will be no different than with a 4G data plan.
Giving the same feature multiple names is a common marketing tactic and also helps AT&T get data on how their products are being sold to customers. And yes, it also means on day they could throw extra charges on certain plan types, but so far they have yet to do that.
Kinda like Sprint's extra $10 Premium Data pack they force onto smartphones. All their phones access the same data network, but they just charge you a little more for having a smartphone yet the Premium Data pack really doesn't do a thing at all to change how data is served to a feature phone or a smartphone.
The only phones that use a new SIM card are AT&T's 4G LTE phones. Any 3G phones sold in the past 5 years or so should be using the regular 3G SIM card that works fine with AT&T's "4G" plans/phones. "4G" is nothing more than a marketing tactic for 3G HSPA+.
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Yeah, I kind of figured this was the case. I got the idea that they'll charge more from an article, which hypothesized that they intend to charge more eventually, since they actually have branded some newish H phones as 4G (not even H+).
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I think this is more about how AT&T manages their network internally, than an issue with the Titan.
When I run Bandwidth to test speed, it picks Seattle as the server because that's geographically nearest to me. In one particular location on the ground floor in my house I get anywhere from 0.5 to ~1.5Mbit. Upstairs I can get 2.5-3.5Mbit.
However, whatismyipaddress.com geolocates me in Sacramento. When I do a speed test to Auburn, CA, I get 3.5-4Mbit downstairs and 5-6Mbit upstairs.
Now... 5-6Mbit ain't setting the world on fire, but at least I know my phone isn't broken, and the device isn't artificially limited to some piss-poor speed. On a class 10 device, 5-6Mbit isn't too bad.
Does anyone know of any fix for the HSPA+ SGSII I9100 throttle problem?
Is anyone even working on a throttle removal process for this phone?
When I originally got my phone I was using the wap.Cingular APN and was actually getting pretty fast speeds. I then went into the AT&T store and switched my unlimited 3G to unlimited 4G and it seems that the speeds have sort of crapped out. If throttling is the issue I would love a fix. Hopefully someone that may have more information than me can enlighten us
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Does anyone know of any fix for the HSPA+ SGSII I9100 throttle problem?
Is anyone even working on a throttle removal process for this phone?
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Throttling is done on the network gateway. To get around speed throttling, you have to be on the right data plan (4G of some kind), and you have to be connecting to the right gateway. The wap.cingular APN is throttled. 4G phones have a different APN. I think that APN is just "phone". There are a bunch of threads that already exist on this subject, just search for them.
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When I originally got my phone I was using the wap.Cingular APN and was actually getting pretty fast speeds. I then went into the AT&T store and switched my unlimited 3G to unlimited 4G and it seems that the speeds have sort of crapped out. If throttling is the issue I would love a fix. Hopefully someone that may have more information than me can enlighten us
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As I said above, if you changed your plan from 3g to 4g, you will probably have to update your APN to point to the correct gateway. wap.cingular will only get you the lower end of HSPA+ speeds. You want the "phone" APN. Search is your friend.
Trust me Bro. I searched like crazy. The fix seems to be for LTE phones.
I got the international SGII about a month ago. It's only HSPA+. One week after I bought it they came out with the lte version on att. what a bummer.
It seems all the threads online are about lte phones, switching the APN back to HSPA+. I tried some of those fixes to no avail. still throttled at .13 mb. I'm only 8 days into my billing cycle and this is unacceptable as one can't even open a website. it seems the ping speed has quadrupled.
I'm due for an upgrade and my contract would end in few days. I was wondering if there exists a fix for this on an HSPA+ phone or should I just go and upgrade to skyrocket. There's no way I can go on with .13 for the rest of the month.
If anyone knows of a fix on HSPA+ phones that would be great.
BTW, when I bought the phone, I called att and tried to add the new phone imei it came out as a Blackberry. I told them to add the 4g plan but I really don't know if they did it. The lady was like you should have a blackberry plan. So I told her to just keep my iphone data plan unchanged.
My phone then on it's own was pulling HSPA+ speeds up to 7mb/s so I didn't care.
Do you think I should call back and make sure I have a 4G plan added?
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Trust me Bro. I searched like crazy. The fix seems to be for LTE phones.
I got the international SGII about a month ago. It's only HSPA+. One week after I bought it they came out with the lte version on att. what a bummer.
It seems all the threads online are about lte phones, switching the APN back to HSPA+. I tried some of those fixes to no avail. still throttled at .13 mb. I'm only 8 days into my billing cycle and this is unacceptable as one can't even open a website. it seems the ping speed has quadrupled.
I'm due for an upgrade and my contract would end in few days. I was wondering if there exists a fix for this on an HSPA+ phone or should I just go and upgrade to skyrocket. There's no way I can go on with .13 for the rest of the month.
If anyone knows of a fix on HSPA+ phones that would be great.
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I also have the unlocked international Galaxy SII. I am on the unlimited data plan for non-smartphones, using the wap.cingular APN. I'm averaging around 3.5-4 mbps down. Fastest I've seen is about 6.5mbps. This is fast enough for me; I would prefer getting unlimited data for the price I'm paying anyways, rather than pay twice as much as I do now only to be capped at 2gb per month.
Maybe you flashed a different modem to your phone without knowing it. What is your setup? Custom ROM? etc?
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privatewarrior1 said:
BTW, when I bought the phone, I called att and tried to add the new phone imei it came out as a Blackberry. I told them to add the 4g plan but I really don't know if they did it. The lady was like you should have a blackberry plan. So I told her to just keep my iphone data plan unchanged.
My phone then on it's own was pulling HSPA+ speeds up to 7mb/s so I didn't care.
Do you think I should call back and make sure I have a 4G plan added?
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You can check your account online. If you log in, and go to myAT&T > Wireless > Usage & Recent Activity, under Data it will list your data - If yours contains a string that looks like HSPDDB, it is 4G unlimited. If it only contains DPPB, it is 3G unlimited. Mine (for the unlimited data for non-smartphones) says GPRS WAP UNLTD DOM - DTAU.
EDIT: you said above it was pulling HSPA+ speeds up to 7mbps... what changed? Did you flash a custom ROM? New kernel? New modem? I find it very weird that your speeds would suddenly drop from 7mpbs to 0.13mbps for no reason.
Using the phone APN and a 4G plan will get you the fastest speeds. Back when I was on a 3G plan, I could only rarely connect to the phone APN, and could get only about 7 Mbps top speed. When I switched to a 4G plan, I found I could consistently connect to the phone APN, and my top speed went up to about 9.5 Mbps.
Note that speeds on either APN are highly variable; I can get 9 Mbps one time, then only 1-2 Mbps a couple minutes later.
ctomgee said:
EDIT: you said above it was pulling HSPA+ speeds up to 7mbps... what changed? Did you flash a custom ROM? New kernel? New modem? I find it very weird that your speeds would suddenly drop from 7mpbs to 0.13mbps for no reason.
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Allegedly, I am in the top 5% data users at only 3.1 GB.
privatewarrior1 said:
Allegedly, I am in the top 5% data users at only 3.1 GB.
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Oh, I see. You're getting throttled because you've used tons of data this cycle. So it sounds like you are not on an unlimited plan, but a capped plan. If you're supposed to be on an unlimited plan, I would call them up and fight tooth and nail to get it back.
But seriously, I'm on an unlimited plan, but I don't use nearly that much data (3.1 GB!!!) in 8 days. Heck, I hardly ever go over 2 GB in one entire billing cycle.
The only thing I can recommend is for you to hook up to Wi-Fi as much as possible. I have Wi-Fi at home and work, so when I am there, it is not consuming my data plan allowance. Besides, Wi-Fi will end up with a more consistent speed (usually faster). HSPA+ tends to vary wildly in download speeds. In addition to that, Wi-Fi tends to consume less battery. There are a lot of reasons to use Wi-Fi if it is available instead of HSPA+.
Take it as you will, that's just my advice.
my SG2 is not flashed. still on custom samsung ROM.
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Oh, I see. You're getting throttled because you've used tons of data this cycle. So it sounds like you are not on an unlimited plan, but a capped plan. If you're supposed to be on an unlimited plan, I would call them up and fight tooth and nail to get it back.
But seriously, I'm on an unlimited plan, but I don't use nearly that much data (3.1 GB!!!) in 8 days. Heck, I hardly ever go over 2 GB in one entire billing cycle.
The only thing I can recommend is for you to hook up to Wi-Fi as much as possible. I have Wi-Fi at home and work, so when I am there, it is not consuming my data plan allowance. Besides, Wi-Fi will end up with a more consistent speed (usually faster). HSPA+ tends to vary wildly in download speeds. In addition to that, Wi-Fi tends to consume less battery. There are a lot of reasons to use Wi-Fi if it is available instead of HSPA+.
Take it as you will, that's just my advice.
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I understand. I've been using my phone because I've been traveling and sometimes wifi is not an option. I use data a lot for my work. I do have a grandfathered unlimited.
I just got my wife the GSII Skyrocket on AT&T and her phone is getting much faster data than mine. She is averaging around 1 mbps faster download speeds but the real killer is her ping, which is consistently between 50-69 ms. Mine never goes below 100 ms. I am on the 4G plan and I am using the phone APN. Her phone has a different apn ("pta" instead of "phone"). I tried the pta apn but it wouldn't connect to data so maybe that is somehow reserved for phones with an LTE sim card? I'm really not sure but I want that faster speed. Any idea what is causing her to get better speeds? FYI before anyone asks we are NOT in an LTE area so both phones were on HSPA+ during my tests.
EDIT: I just tried again and her download speeds are double mine (mine was 3 she was over 6). I expect the AT&T phone to be slightly more optimized for their network but this is ridiculous. Something has to be wrong it can't be this much of a difference.
Hey guys. I have a HTC Titan II and started using it yesterday. I placed the sim card I had from my previous phone (xperia play r800a), and noticed that it shows I have a 4G connection. However, as soon as I open up the browser nothing happens. Says there is something wrong with my data connection. I took the card out and placed it back in my xperia play. Internet seemed fine.
Then I read that it may have to do with my sim not being a 4G LTE sim; so I went to the ATT store this morning and got a new sim. I asked if it was a 4G LTE sim, and the girl informed me that all newer sims are 4G LTE sims. I took the new sim and placed it in the T2. Still nothing.
So I am unsure as to what the issue is. I have a cheap unlimited ATT data plan that has been working like a champ for the last couple of years. I figured that at the very least, I would get 3G speeds on the T2 since I am not on a 4G plan.
Any advice? Thanks!!
You have to have your data plan updated to the LTE plan (you get to keep what ever data cap you have today, unlimited or else). You can do it by calling customer service or in AT&T stores. Otherwise, it will not work. The LTE connection uses pta APN which requires LTE data plan on your account.
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You have to have your data plan updated to the LTE plan (you get to keep what ever data cap you have today, unlimited or else). You can do it by calling customer service or in AT&T stores. Otherwise, it will not work. The LTE connection uses pta APN which requires LTE data plan on your account.
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Thanks for the info. I am currently paying $30 for unlimited data (non-smartphone) with texting. I am assuming when switching over to LTE that I'll be responsible for paying some sort of premium because I'm guessing they don't have non-smartphone LTE plans.
I managed to get data to work by editing the APN info on the phone. It works, but I do not think it's running at LTE speeds or even 4G (even though it says 4G at the top of my phone).
krillin said:
Thanks for the info. I am currently paying $30 for unlimited data (non-smartphone) with texting. I am assuming when switching over to LTE that I'll be responsible for paying some sort of premium because I'm guessing they don't have non-smartphone LTE plans.
I managed to get data to work by editing the APN info on the phone. It works, but I do not think it's running at LTE speeds or even 4G (even though it says 4G at the top of my phone).
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What APN did you enter? Just do following to get 4G speeds:
1) Add APN
2) wap.cingular
3) Reboot or wait 3-4 mins
I just switch to LTE APN. It is fast, but from what I'm reading online, I've set myself up for tighter AT&T controls around tethering, throttling etc. But, I can confirm that it is backwards compatible.
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What APN did you enter? Just do following to get 4G speeds:
1) Add APN
2) wap.cingular
3) Reboot or wait 3-4 mins
I just switch to LTE APN. It is fast, but from what I'm reading online, I've set myself up for tighter AT&T controls around tethering, throttling etc. But, I can confirm that it is backwards compatible.
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I went to the connection settings, pressed on "ADD APN". For the name, I entered, "AT&T HSPA+". That's it, and internet works. It says 4G at the very top of my phone, but not LTE. I assumed this was normal. Would entering wap.cingular be faster?
Thanks!
I think AT&T HSPA+ is supposed to be quicker than wap.cingular
I read it some place a few minutes ago but I lost the page. Someone ran a test and speedtest.net had higher speeds and lower pings.
You will need the pta APN to get LTE connection. You will need Phone APN to get real HSPA+ speed (if you want anything over 6mbps). Otherwise, wap.cingular gives you 3G speed (which all new AT&T phones will show it as 4G, lame).
Both pta and Phone APN requires specific data plan codes on your account (If you have LTE data plan, you can use both pta and Phone APNs but HSPA+/4G data plan can only use Phone APN).
AT&T did so exactly to prevent customers like you who have an old non-smartphone data plan to take advantage of its new high speed data network without paying for it.
In most places, HSPA+ speed is not much quicker than 3G/wap.Cingular beause AT&T's HSPA+ network is over congested. However, LTE is on a separate network and the data speeds are significantly faster than HSPA+.
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AT&T did so exactly to prevent customers like you...who take advantage of its new high speed data network without paying for it.
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Geez...tell me how you truly feel.
JK! Thanks for clearing that up.
LoL, nice editing. NBC should hire you
Now you have to decide whether to save $$ but use slower 3G data or pay up to trade for higher speed. You won't get to keep the unlimited because your current plan is not qualified smartphone plan. So, basically you are looking at $30 for 3GB + $20 for unlimited text.
Need a SIM card
I had the same problem as I got my phone free from a MS store (traded them my old windows mobile device for it). I ended up having to take the phone to an AT&T store and they stated that my SIM card would never work with the phone for data. It was a 3G SIM card. They also changed the data plan so maybe both are required.
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I had the same problem as I got my phone free from a MS store (traded them my old windows mobile device for it). I ended up having to take the phone to an AT&T store and they stated that my SIM card would never work with the phone for data. It was a 3G SIM card. They also changed the data plan so maybe both are required.
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Both are required. But if your existing SIM is new enough it should support LTE without problem (there was a specific SIM card ID range to support LTE).
BTW, if your phone is connecting on LTE, it will show LTE instead of 4G on the notification bar.
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I had the same problem as I got my phone free from a MS store (traded them my old windows mobile device for it). I ended up having to take the phone to an AT&T store and they stated that my SIM card would never work with the phone for data. It was a 3G SIM card. They also changed the data plan so maybe both are required.
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for whatever reason, I read somewhere around here that that particular SIM made your "smartphone exclusion" hold-up against most recent phones. So, you gave that benefit away - don't worry if you don't know much about it.
wap.cingular gave me data thanks! But I am a little confused is it 3g or HSPA+? I don't need to change my data plan for LTE (since it isn't in Seattle yet) but I want to change it if I am not getting HSPA+
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wap.cingular gave me data thanks! But I am a little confused is it 3g or HSPA+? I don't need to change my data plan for LTE (since it isn't in Seattle yet) but I want to change it if I am not getting HSPA+
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HSPA+ in WP7 gets represented with an "H" or "4G"
3G gets represent with a regular "3G"
LTE with "LTE"
Most likely you are under HSPA+ ... Do a Speed Test with an app like "Bandwidth" to see where you max out and that should give you an idea if its 3G or H
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HSPA+ in WP7 gets represented with an "H" or "4G"
3G gets represent with a regular "3G"
LTE with "LTE"
Most likely you are under HSPA+ ... Do a Speed Test with an app like "Bandwidth" to see where you max out and that should give you an idea if its 3G or H
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it says 4g and I get about 3mbs I am assuming its HSPA+ thanks for clarifying!
All AT&T new phones, including iPhone with iOS5 update, will say 4G even if it is on 3G. It really doesn't matter much. 3G and HSPA+ in most places are same speed. You only need to worry about it if you want LTE. If you don't have LTE, leave it alone.
I have put both APNs mentioned and that seems to work for a little while, but eventually the data cuts out again.
Is this an issue similar to what is happening with the Lumina 900? Is this a Microsoft problem or AT&T? And is anyone else still having issues after updating the apn like I am?
try APNhone
Name:whatever
it works for me.
hrzlvn said:
try APNhone
Name:whatever
it works for me.
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does nothing for mine. i've tried it already.
Your data plan limits you to wap.cingular APN only. Nothing else will work for you.
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Your data plan limits you to wap.cingular APN only. Nothing else will work for you.
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Since my MMS and tethering no longer work with this phone, it looks as if I may have to switch out my plan(s) and fork over $70 ($50 data+$20 text). IMHO, a bit of a rip off...OR I can just go back to my xplay and everything will work as it was...but where is the fun in that?