I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
What question do you have. Also if you read, the development forum is only for development, not asking questions.
You have no idea how many new members go in and ask questions that have been asked millions of times before or in the sticky that has BIG BOLD LETTERS ON THE TOP SAYING READ ME. And also 90% sure this thread will be locked anyways since it has nothing to do with the phones.
Oh to answer your question.
Since its an App, you're not going to find help on the black text because thats just the way the app is coded. Go complain to the developer of the app and not the ROM.
And by recovery console do you mean cwm? If so, have fun.
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I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
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Sorry, that's a rough intro. I hope you won't be turned off by XDA as a whole. I try to keep things positive and look forward to seeing you around these boards.
EDIT, as to your questions, briefly in case this thread gets closed:
1) No easy way to change font/color behavior in a single app. As a workaround, you can hold finger over a list entry/item and read the text sometimes while it is highlighted. Some apps have theme settings for dark/light themes for exactly this situation.
2) I know modifying recovery is possible (Siyah kernel for instance) but have never seen one with larger fonts. At any rate, it's not a setting that can be changed on the fly.
I think they mean for questions like "how do i flash a rom" , "how do i return to stock" , general non rom specific questions. Any specific rom questions need to go in that dev's thread. As far as needing ten posts, find some threads that interest you in the general or q & a and comment on them.
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There are also plenty of threads in the off topic forum area that you can post in to bring your post count up.
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There are also plenty of threads in the off topic forum area that you can post in to bring your post count up.
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+ 1 its not hard at all to get 10 posts. Just look for a thread where you can comment.
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I typically don't like to post for the sake of posting. The thread in question is here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523286
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I typically don't like to post for the sake of posting. The thread in question is here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523286
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I'm pretty sure none of us are... But this is the rule for XDA that was set forth... 10 post is not a lot, especially comparing to some of the other sites that I seen out there. As of now you have 7 posts. Only 3 more posts and you should be good to go.
Keep it in mind the moderators/administrators here work hard to keep this forums nice and clean. So, new users can find things easier.
As some of the earlier posts and responses, they should already tell you what you can and cannot do.
As penguinlogik said, I would stay away from CWM. Or you will definately have a field day with it, that is from my experience.
Wait was that in the Q&A section that it was asked?
Anyways to answer your question;
The app was made for an unthemed version of the rom. When we theme stuff in the framework often times it directly effects some apps. Apps that are using framework colors anyways.
The only way to fix the app is to mod the app yourself or use a unthemed rom.
Theming is a tough job as it cant usually be done without effecting something else (app) unfortunately.
Hope that helps...
Thank you shoman, that was the first useful reply to my original question.
Threads to ***** about the mods are lame.
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Threads to ***** about the mods are lame.
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Uh what part of this thread *****es about mods?
I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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Well said.
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I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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While I agree.., its easier to just answer the question or ignore it. Especially when its in the q&a.
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Uh what part of this thread *****es about mods?
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"Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense."
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While I agree.., its easier to just answer the question....
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This rewards laziness and propagates more useless threads.
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This rewards laziness and propagates more useless threads.
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But all this *****ing is just as useless.
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That dude was not nice... I had the same problem when started into xda, search results had no answer for my specific dilemma, and I had to make 10 posts before being able to get a real answer for my initial question. But it helped me out, cause now I use search all the time when I got questions and haven't had anyone scold me over my posts, but all that aside this is a very useful forum. Enjoy XDA!
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I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
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What did I tell you? I said that you didnt need to start a thread to ask your question. There were plenty of threads already started that you could have popped in and asked your question. Once again, no reading was done. Had you read my post (let me quote that for you here):
Then I suggest you read the sticky thread and look at the FAQ and look in the Iscrewed thread for your answers. Just because you cant post to ask your probably already answered question, dosent mean you get to start a new thread about it.
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I said NOT TO START A NEW THREAD ABOUT IT. Thats why it was closed. If you consider that scolding, then you're in a rude awakening from other members here at XDA.
The reason we put up the 10 post minimum was because 99.9% of all questions are either answered in the sticky threads, guides, walkthroughs, FAQ or threads already started... you just have to look. As previously stated by another member, by learning to search when you first register, it set a precident for the remainder of your stay on how to act and what to do on this forum.
This is a Development site for Developers... its not a phone version of WalMart where people pop in to start a thread or just order what they want. If you want answers, just like the internet itself, you're going to have to search... and this same answer can be found in the sticky at the top of this forum.
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What did I tell you? I said that you didnt need to start a thread to ask your question. There were plenty of threads already started that you could have popped in and asked your question. Once again, no reading was done. Had you read my post (let me quote that for you here):
I said NOT TO START A NEW THREAD ABOUT IT. Thats why it was closed. If you consider that scolding, then you're in a rude awakening from other members here at XDA.
The reason we put up the 10 post minimum was because 99.9% of all questions are either answered in the sticky threads, guides, walkthroughs, FAQ or threads already started... you just have to look. As previously stated by another member, by learning to search when you first register, it set a precident for the remainder of your stay on how to act and what to do on this forum.
This is a Development site for Developers... its not a phone version of WalMart where people pop in to start a thread or just order what they want. If you want answers, just like the internet itself, you're going to have to search... and this same answer can be found in the sticky at the top of this forum.
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Does anyone know if the Viewsonic G Tablet will be compatible with Android 4.0?
I'm really hoping that with the better then average specs the G tab has that it can handle this latest and greatest ROM
It is not about horsepower, the source code for drivers is not available yet and may never be even with the agreement... Froyo is the only os with true drivers from what I gather. Maybe ginger will have them soon. Otherwise just settle for nexflix on ginger or a camera/skype on froyo. Very frustrating!
U do know
#1 ICS was just announced
#2 2.3 is not supported by VS or nivida on this device
#4 There is a search on this site and a site called google?
I'm not trying to be a a$$, Just tired of these type posts we saw all this with 3.0. Please use the search before asking any questions. I can guarantee you that that 99% of all questions you would have are located in these forums. I have been a gtab owner since the beginning and before there was a spot for it here on XDA, I have see it all posted and searched for it on my own.
I did try to search for the answer before posting this question, I tried Google first and couldn't find anything that matched even with a very basic search criteria, I also tried to search for it thru this site with no luck. As I'm new to the Viewsonic G Tablet and to XDA Developers I was hoping the question wouldn't annoy anyone to severly. I guess I was mistaken.
A search for the term "Sandwich" in the gtab forums here returns at least 2 other threads on the topic.
You realize between your two ***** posts you've spent more time and space then the OP's original and reply posts... cmon with the forum whining, it's stupid and you DO sound like an @$$
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You realize between your two ***** posts you've spent more time and space then the OP's original and reply posts... cmon with the forum whining, it's stupid and you DO sound like an @$$
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Confused, but pretty sure I should be offended
the best hope the GTab can have is through CyanogenMod
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Confused, but pretty sure I should be offended
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Brett don't worry they are talking to me. The info is on the forum if you search for it. if you choose not to, its your choice.
But be warned....
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U do know
#1 ICS was just announced
#2 2.3 is not supported by VS or nivida on this device
#4 There is a search on this site and a site called google?
I'm not trying to be a a$$, Just tired of these type posts we saw all this with 3.0. Please use the search before asking any questions. I can guarantee you that that 99% of all questions you would have are located in these forums. I have been a gtab owner since the beginning and before there was a spot for it here on XDA, I have see it all posted and searched for it on my own.
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Take a chill... in the time you berated him, you could have answered him. Your attitude sucks...
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Take a chill... in the time you berated him, you could have answered him. Your attitude sucks...
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His point was that there are rules in place that we are all supposed to follow. It doesn't hurt to make new (or not so new) users aware of the rules. The very first rule is:
FORUM RULES
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
I like this rule too:
2.6 All members are expected to read and adhere to the XDA rules.
If you haven't read the rules they are located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=1101
From what I have heard ICS wants 1 GB of ram while the Gtab has 512 MB. That may have some impact on the operation of ICS and may make it not worth porting to work on the Gtab.
That can't be right. The Nexus S only has 512MB of RAM and Google has already promise an ICS release for it.
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Take a chill... in the time you berated him, you could have answered him. Your attitude sucks...
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Fact:
In the time you wrote that you both could have either searched for the answer or read the XDA rules.
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His point was that there are rules in place that we are all supposed to follow. It doesn't hurt to make new (or not so new) users aware of the rules. The very first rule is:
FORUM RULES
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
I like this rule too:
2.6 All members are expected to read and adhere to the XDA rules.
If you haven't read the rules they are located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=1101
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Funny how members that have been around awhile and know the rules understand me.
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The very first rule is:
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1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Everything on a forum was discussed once. That is not really an enforceble rule, but only in a few cases. That's why is a forum, we can have different oppinions, otherwise it would be called a blog.
And BTW, the way "search" functions are implemented on forums sucks. Sending people to Google is ridiculous IMO.
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Everything on a forum was discussed once. That is not really an enforceble rule, but only in a few cases. That's why is a forum, we can have different oppinions, otherwise it would be called a blog.
And BTW, the way "search" functions are implemented on forums sucks. Sending people to Google is ridiculous IMO.
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You're preaching to the wrong choir. I didn't make the rules. Didn't say that the rule was enforcable. What I did say was we are expected to follow them (even if some choose not to) and that there is nothing wrong with pointing the rules out. Sure we can have different opinions & I was just stating mine. I personnally have had no problem finding what I need through search. It just takes a little time familiarizing yourself with how it works (IMO). If you have a problem with the rules and the XDA search functions maybe you should address your concerns or suggestions to XDA or one of the moderaors.
Also, I didn't suggest sending anyone to Google, although I still do use Google to find things because XDA does not contain everything.
Well ics has the same hardware requirements as gingerbread, so its theoretically possible to run it on a vgt with the help of a willing dev
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well even if anyone was able to do so wouldnt they need a rom to base it off of pluse a working kernel then having to rework all the drivers on it i mean it wasnt supose to run honeycomb but they have a port working on it so if it was that and it was that the port so go just as fine for ICS just the same as honeycomb is
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His point was that there are rules in place that we are all supposed to follow. It doesn't hurt to make new (or not so new) users aware of the rules. The very first rule is:
FORUM RULES
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
I like this rule too:
2.6 All members are expected to read and adhere to the XDA rules.
If you haven't read the rules they are located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=1101
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I wasnt going against the rules.. but he dont have to be an ass in reminding people. There is a saying "you can disagree without being disagreeable".
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Fact:
In the time you wrote that you both could have either searched for the answer or read the XDA rules.
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Funny how members that have been around awhile and know the rules understand me.
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I know the rules... I also know how to talk to people and treat them nice without talking down to them. Maybe you should learn the difference.
Let's just get back to helping each other
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I wasnt going against the rules.. but he dont have to be an ass in reminding people. There is a saying "you can disagree without being disagreeable".
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I know the rules... I also know how to talk to people and treat them nice without talking down to them. Maybe you should learn the difference.
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Enough said. I don't believe his intention was to belittle even though some took it that way. It won't be the first or last time someone speaks or writes something out of frustration. There is also nothing wrong with letting users know how to better use the forums. Could it have been said better, yes. Each of us comes here to either help or be helped. How about we just get back to doing that!
Al
For all the Devs in the ASGS2 forum, are you guys finding your rom/kernel threads being clogged up with a bunch of random questions/issues? How would you feel if I made you all each a Q&A thread dedicated to your work in the Q&A forum? Do you feel that would help you/your thread? Please let me know what you think or how you feel, and hit up the poll to cast your vote.
This was done in the Cappy section because they had a minimum post restriction to keep the spoon feeding clutter down in the Dev section. Not sure if that restriction is also in this section. It was only like 10 post minimum though.
I tried to do this manually with Hellraiser, but it hasn't really taken off. To be honest, right now the I777 community isn't the epic cesspool that some other forums are. However over time this could change... But the kinds of users that clutter development threads are the kind who don't bother to go to Q&A threads - so does it really help anything?
we did this over in captivate forums, it worked well.
we did this over in inspire forums, it was met with serious backlash by lazy ass people, and ignorance to change.
tough decision. Entropy has a point, those people wouldnt bother going to a Q&A thread...the Q&A threads should be a place where the users help each other out and raise issues. the dev threads should be there to report ACTUAL issues and request features. what happens is that one person has a problem with flashing the rom and they assume its the devs fault, and the rom is broken, and they report it as a bug....its a vicious cycle that will never end.
Well this forum is for you guys, so if you dont think its needed then I wont worry about it... just trying to help all the great devs out and make things easier if I can.
If you guys have any other suggestions or want to try something out, feel free to say.
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im no developer but ive been around the forums and have come from a forum with less of a following. the problem is that the people who are asking the question's in the threads are 60-70% of the time dont read directions and will end up posting in the wrong forum anyways.... its a novel idea but i dont think it will take off, unless you lock the rom forum to devs and testers only
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im no developer but ive been around the forums and have come from a forum with less of a following. the problem is that the people who are asking the question's in the threads are 60-70% of the time dont read directions and will end up posting in the wrong forum anyways.... its a novel idea but i dont think it will take off, unless you lock the rom forum to devs and testers only
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That sort of defeats the purpose I think, and I also believe that most Devs here like to have people post in their threads.
Alright guys. Ill keep it the way it already is. If your threads seem to get clogged, or you want your own dedicated Q&A thread, let me know and Ill make the adjustment at that time. Thanks for all your feedback.
I would appreciate it, so far most of the users in this forum are above average when it comes to figuring things out own their own (searching). Only thing is I wish there was more ROM choices/themes.
I don't feel the need for a Q&A thread right now. I find it a bit tedious to follow two threads for my ROMs instead of one. Also, I don't really mind a few redundant questions here and there as long as it doesn't get out of hand, which it hasn't yet.
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we did this over in captivate forums, it worked well.
we did this over in inspire forums, it was met with serious backlash by lazy ass people, and ignorance to change.
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I wasn't a lazy ass or ignorant!!!!
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I wasn't a lazy ass or ignorant!!!!
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lol. feelin guilty are ya?
Not a dev, but I do post quite often in both the dev and QA sections. I don't think there should be two threads. It seems it is more effective if there is only one thread dedicated to that rom/modem/kernel, with all bugs and support given out. Of course if you have a more complex issue, it should have it's own thread. But small issues with the rom or questions regarding how something works should be contained in the same thread as the development of the rom.
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Not a dev, but I do post quite often in both the dev and QA sections. I don't think there should be two threads. It seems it is more effective if there is only one thread dedicated to that rom/modem/kernel, with all bugs and support given out. Of course if you have a more complex issue, it should have it's own thread. But small issues with the rom or questions regarding how something works should be contained in the same thread as the development of the rom.
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i agree with this, but there tends to be an influx of people posting the same CRAP over and over and over and over in a dev thread. personally i dont give 2 flips about someone saying "THANKS!" or "CANT WAIT TO FLASH THIS!" or "WHEN IS THE NEXT UPDATE?!", i want to see CONSTRUCTIVE criticisms, requests, or logcats. having to filter through all the BS really makes it difficult to discern actual issues from fluff. there tends to be a lot of fluff that happens.
i see the dev threads as being specifically for requests/bug-tracking/break-fixes. the other stuff belongs in a thread where the users can praise, bicker, ask questions repeatedly (how do i flash this?). it should be peers helping out peers, and let the devs work on their stuff. but alas, we will never have utopian bliss....
we are lucky we havent seen much of that at all here in the GS2 forums, but man some of the other forums are riddled with noobery. lets just try to keep it clean and ask our members to mind the rules and understand whats going on.
Yeah... I think as long as things don't become like the Infuse forums where some of the ROM threads became utter nightmares we'll be fine. But let's keep it in our back pocket in case we need it. I may even discontinue my Hellraiser Q&A for the time being.
If there's anything we may need, it may potentially be to split the development forum like the I9100 forums were in order to differentiate ports of other developer's ROMs from actual development. It isn't too bad here yet, but the Infuse forums are chock full of integrated Hellraiser ports and it's difficult to find original development among all of the ports.
I think the definitions for "Original" vs "not original" in the I9100 forums seem to be a bit arbitrary, if we DO ever go that route here I think it needs to be clearer.
"Original" - You yourself have taken a stock ROM (may be stock for another device) and modified it from scratch on the I777. All kernel development can remain here in my opinion. Discussion of actual porting techniques used by the other section can be here.
"Not original" - Another dev creates a ROM for another device, and an I777 user ports it to the I777 via Hellraiser or another technique. e.g. Hellraiser-integrated ROMs and such.
We don't need this yet here but we may - and honestly the Infuse forums need it.
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For all the Devs in the ASGS2 forum, are you guys finding your rom/kernel threads being clogged up with a bunch of random questions/issues? How would you feel if I made you all each a Q&A thread dedicated to your work in the Q&A forum? Do you feel that would help you/your thread? Please let me know what you think or how you feel, and hit up the poll to cast your vote.
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I did this in the forums that PG mentioned. While yes it was a bit of a headache in the inspire forums ( they are getting used to it) and the captivate section went off without an issue I would say to go for it and if needed ill help where I can. I have to admite the 2 forums that I did this for once it was gotten by most needs less cleaning now for sure. Mainly when other users back you on it.
Personally I think it would be really helpful if individual posts could be categorized and/or sorted within a thread. That way all posts relating to a specific rom/development topic could remain in the same thread, but you could then filter out the garbage, sort through the questions, and find posts that are truly relevant to the topic or project or whatever. It would still depend on the users to label posts properly, but I think we're all in agreement that there is no perfect solution to the issue.
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Personally I think it would be really helpful if individual posts could be categorized and/or sorted within a thread. That way all posts relating to a specific rom/development topic could remain in the same thread, but you could then filter out the garbage, sort through the questions, and find posts that are truly relevant to the topic or project or whatever. It would still depend on the users to label posts properly, but I think we're all in agreement that there is no perfect solution to the issue.
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I'm not a Dev myself but I do feel two threads isn't an ideal solution... Most ignorant people who can't find an answer in five second's or just don't feel like even trying to search will always head to the source of their ROM issues. Now if the method 10tonhammer described seems like an okay idea as long as any average person takes the task upon themselves to tag their post properly. Either way I'm not exactly the prime example of good manners on XDA (Feel's Guilty)
I am learning at least <3
Lastly Thank you to all Dev's and Mod's who make this the most pleasant interaction between Developer and User possible.
Hey,
So I have been a regular visitor to this site for about 2 years now ever since I first rooted my HTC desire.
I have downloaded and tested many custom ROM's for the desire and the SGS2.
My recent favorite ROM is resurrection remix which i have been using various builds of since xmas. And only now do I have a question that no one has asked and I cant find an answer to.
Of course since I have never needed to post before when I tried to ask my question it wont let me because i have not made 10 useful comments. The only place I find useful comments is on the development forums. There is nothing specifically that I need from the other ares of the site and so I cannot offer any feedback that would be helpful to others there... the only place I can make useful comments is on the development forums, which is exactly where Im not allowed to make them.
So how does one get around that?
Luke
Probably not, but you can try contacting a moderator, the rule is there to avoid people joining and spamming the dev section with crap, if that isnt your plan they may be able to help you out.
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Ok thanks!
I will do that
bidoa said:
Hey,
So I have been a regular visitor to this site for about 2 years now ever since I first rooted my HTC desire.
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So how does one get around that?
Luke
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Exactly the same situation for me (even down to the 2 years and HTC Desire ).
Do what I did and make yourself useful by answering others questions. You'll be surprised how much you actually know
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Exactly the same situation for me (even down to the 2 years and HTC Desire ).
Do what I did and make yourself useful by answering others questions. You'll be surprised how much you actually know
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I'm in the same boat bud. Hopefully we will get one day to ask questions in the normal thread. Can't wait.
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Personally and apart from the spam issue the ten post thread in dev section is far to low a number one only has to read the inane posts from users with more than ten posts in many dev threads .
But how do you overcome the problem of a large amount of idiots posting who cannot be bothered to read the rules read the faqs or instructions and repetitively ask the same questions .it reflects badly on those who like the OP have taken time to read and learn as they are treated the same .
jje
That rule also stopped me in my tracks. But I can see the point on the development forums.
After the "no you can't" it encouraged me to look harder for answers and ask the (dum) questions on the general forum.
I realize the point is to avoid opening new threads for questions that might be better served in the appropriate development thread, but if you've searched and haven't found your answer I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem to post one in Q&A or General, but make sure you exhausted all search options before you do.
Same for me...To be honest I wanted to answer questions and help members, not to ask myself but... I see the point of the rule, there are too many people that will ask (dum) Q without even bothering to use the search tool and filling the threads with crap when there is no need to...
Solution:
make thread about it.
Answer all who replys
Profit
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Also have same problem, I just posted a question here that I feel would be better suited to go in the Dev thread of the ROM I use.
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Unfortunately, there will be some people (a minority) affected by this rule who probably shouldn't be (those who wouldn't post crap to dev threads from the get go), but at the end of the day it goes some way to reducing the mountains of crap which get posted to dev threads every day (at least 75% of posts in my experience. I'm probably being generous).
Again unfortunately (for the people who would do the right thing if this rule wasn't in place), no system is perfect in this regard. Frankly, I'd rather have the current system in place as opposed to making things open slather. Changing the current rule would make an already bad situation even worse IMHO.
Edit to add - As was suggested on the first page of this thread, you can always plead your case to a mod if you think the rule shouldn't apply to you for whatever reason.
Further edit - Poster above me. Your recent post in Q&A is a prime example of the type of post which should not be cluttering a dev thread. It is a general question, and not specific to a particular rom.
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Unfortunately, there will be some people (a minority) affected by this rule who probably shouldn't be (those who wouldn't post crap to dev threads from the get go), but at the end of the day it goes some way to reducing the mountains of crap which get posted to dev threads every day (at least 75% of posts in my experience. I'm probably being generous).
Again unfortunately (for the people who would do the right thing if this rule wasn't in place), no system is perfect in this regard. Frankly, I'd rather have the current system in place as opposed to making things open slather. Changing the current rule would make an already bad situation even worse IMHO.
Edit to add - As was suggested on the first page of this thread, you can always plead your case to a mod if you think the rule shouldn't apply to you for whatever reason.
Further edit - Poster above me. Your recent post in Q&A is a prime example of the type of post which should not be cluttering a dev thread. It is a general question, and not specific to a particular rom.
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A great example of the mountains of crap that spew out of many of the users (if you look in there I'm sure I'm guilty too) in this forum, check out the CM9 discussion thread, imagine if that was in the dev thread, how would codeworkx and the others ever find anything that might be relevant?
Find 10 noobs to help in Q&A section, help said noobs, done.
It's not just about taking.
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Find 10 noobs to help in Q&A section, help said noobs, done.
It's not just about taking.
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This is true too, when I started I felt handcuffed by the 10 post limit, but I spent a little time reading posts and using the knowledge I gained to help out others and my post (and thanks) count quickly increased well beyond the limit. Helping others also gave me more understanding to be able to troubleshoot my own problems.
Yep that's exactly right Thracemerin, a perfect example.
I dread getting home from work & having to scroll thru 18 hrs worth/sometimes up to 40 pages of posts in the CM9 discussion thread & 90% of them are utter crap.
You're right, if it were in the dev thread, I think Codeworkx, Xplodwild et al would have given up ages ago.
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A great example of the mountains of crap that spew out of many of the users in this forum, check out the CM9 discussion thread, imagine if that was in the dev thread, how would codeworkx and the others ever find anything that might be relevant?
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Apologies I stand corrected, I thought it would be ROM related as the only info I could find through search was about adding poweron.ogg to system/etc and making sure permissions are set correctly and this is not working for me.
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Fair points
I can see the point to it cutting down a number of people who would make useless comments, although the development forums are still littered with idiots who type before they think or even look around for a solution.
OK I'm off to trawl the forums to see who I can help!
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Fair points
I can see the point to it cutting down a number of people who would make useless comments, although the development forums are still littered with idiots who type before they think or even look around for a solution.
OK I'm off to trawl the forums to see who I can help!
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Very simple 99% of posts just need a reply read the f4444 instructions first .
jje
In the stickies on this forum is help for rebooting prooblems and so you think you've bricked your phone. Yet there constantly appears postings about phone rebooting and Please Help I've Bricked My Phone, and by far most of these it is the poster's first posting.
Maybe the rule should be that you cannot start a new thread, in any forum, until you have 10 posts. Every forum has a FAQ thread that they can post on if they have searched on here and can't find anything.
Hello and greetings, this is my first post.
I've been reading these forums for quite a while and I own a Note II. I have followed a discussion in the OAD forums, including flashing a new rom, and have run the rom for a month now. I am simply having some trouble with a couple of aspects that haven't been addressed in the thread. I wish to solicit advice from the community.
Unfortunately, I cannot post because of the following rule:
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Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
Remember, your question has very likely been asked already, so please search before posting.
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As I am reading this, particularly the 'fewer than 10 posts' part, I am thinking something like, 'but I am a computer expert'. And then I reach this part, which addresses what I feel I am directly:
While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
It's an interesting thing to ask when most of the discussions in the forum I cannot post to directly involve 'using or installing ROMs'. It definitely allows me to avoid posting questions about my particular interest. Instead I need to write ten posts, and this is the first. I don't know.. is this rule really necessary? Should I make nine crap posts so I can get around to talking about what I want to talk about, and joining what is already a burgeoning discussion? Should I just.. leave? Or should I chill out?
Maybe post your questions in the Q&A sections? Just a thought....
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I would find the forum for your rom and ask the question there. You can ask a question in a thread already created just not create a new one.
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Yeah I am restricted to many things due to not posting and it makes me not able to make post to help even though I've been a member for a little while now
damned, i am restricted toooooo
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i completely agree, this makes it so a large percentage of people who have questions cannot ask the people they want, cannot give bug reports and causes all sorts of problems. i can download a rom but cannot contribute at all to any issues, so i guess i can just make random posts in random topics( like the trolls you seek to weed out would no doubt do) but i havent biothered. its a stupid rule and the devs should be the most angry about this but i doubt they are aware that we have to go to other non devs to sort out the issues.
@coma73 Random posts and junk posts will be deleted, setting you back to your starting point. The moral of this story, follow the rules and all will be well; create junk/spam/random posts and be forever stuck with post limitations. We do check. Kinda funny, because that's how I stumbled into this thread.
In any event, we have the General and Q&A sections of the forums for you to read, learn, and ask any questions you may have. Most ROM's will have a Q&A thread already available, usually posted in (wait for it....) the Q&A forum, these are readily available for you to post your questions, comments, bug reports and feedback. If you're still stuck, there are many members here that would be willing to post on your behalf in a particular development thread.
We encourage members to utilize the resources at hand and the rules are pretty clear about why and the intention behind the post limitations. If you are unable to come up with 10 posts that are not junk/spam/random, you don't belong here any way.
I stumbled across the same issue and it's really annoying. I'm not an inexperienced user in any way, been using custom roms for 2 years and just want to give some constructive feedback to a custom rom I'm using which does NOT have a Q&A thread.
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I stumbled across the same issue and it's really annoying. I'm not an inexperienced user in any way, been using custom roms for 2 years and just want to give some constructive feedback to a custom rom I'm using which does NOT have a Q&A thread.
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There are a lot of inexperienced users who post pretty easy questions across the boards. It won't take long to get up/past 10 posts if you respond to a few of those. Helpful for them to to benefit from your experience.
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I stumbled across the same issue and it's really annoying. I'm not an inexperienced user in any way, been using custom roms for 2 years and just want to give some constructive feedback to a custom rom I'm using which does NOT have a Q&A thread.
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In this instance a post in general forums is sufficient.
This has been argued time and time again, fought tooth and nail, and it will not change. It helps far more than you guys realize.
Is it honestly that difficult to come up with ten non spam posts? I mean really, you find a bug and post about it in general forums, there's one.
A question? Q&A forums, there's two...
I had to do it, every developer here had to do it, hell, every member posting in development had to do it. It is not that hard.
So put on your big boy pants,quit complaining, and just post.
The rules still apply, and anything spam or completely useless will be deleted.
On that note, this thread is closed.
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I would like to direct this to the Moderators or any other higher ups that need to get involved.
This Q&A Bot thing is rediculous.
It is posting in seemingly every device for every rom. Stating to direct all questions in regard to a rom in Q&A sections in order to keep development from getting clogged up.
All its doing is clogging up Q&A.
I thought the concept was, if it is a question within regards to a specific rom, that's what the thread is for?
If it is a device specific question, then it goes to Q&A?
When you click to view Q&A Bot profile, it comes up invalid. Is this a new system generated thing to organize the threads better?
Not working. To me it is just as bad as having an ad pop up.
Honestly, I find myself wanting to come on here less. I come here in attempt to help others if I can. An attempt to return favors that others have done for me. What is the point of Q&A Bot to create a thread it cannot support or will not respond to?
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The Q&A bot only comes into action when a new user tries posting in the development section. As you know, new users can't post in development threads. So the Q&A bot makes a new thread in the Q&A section so the new users post can be read.
I can see where xda thinks this is a way of getting newbies heard and keeping development threads clean. But when you boil it all down it actually creates clutter and disarray. Because after all isn't XDA a development site? Therefore all threads here are considered development threads in my opinion.
In my opinion only recognized developers should be able to post in development threads. All development posts should have links to respective Q&A threads. Leaving development threads clean of everything but the dev's posts. This way the dev can post tweaks, bugs and tips that are easily found without going thru 100's of posts to find solutions. The dev can monitor the Q&A thread and answer questions there. When a valid question arises the dev can answer it in the Q&A thread. Then make an update post in the development thread.
What do you think?
If only people with "RD" status can post in the dev section this device and a lot more others would be pretty boring to own. I agree with @captemo those threads are cluttering the place up and are a bit annoying, plus I thought there was a 10 post count rule that prevented new users to post in the dev section? is that rule no longer in place or something or is it being circumvented in some way? I get the point of those threads in order to help out new users get the advice they seek and all but honestly its seems like a lot of users now a days don't bother to read a few pages of a thread let alone use the search function , and want to be spoon fed. Not trying to be a d-bag or any thing like that but it gets a bit out of hand at times seeing the answer they seek is just usually a few pages back from the last one. OK my ranting is over lol....
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i agree with some of what all you have said...but with that said.
our Q&A section is already a mess. The only one ive ever seen that wasnt is in the epic 4g touch forum, and thats because they had a member create a noob friendly support thread for all questions and roms. And the members,myself included, made sure questions were posted there and not just making a new thread for questions that have been asked and answered. It also allowed the more experienced members to have a place to help that was easy to find and point noobs in the right direction.
if you guys are interested in starting and supporting such a thread. i would look at the e4gt thread for ideas how to set it up...or u can look at the one i made and support in the galaxy tab 10.1 forum. Here is the Link to mine, as i cant seem to get a mod over there to sticky it.
These threads should give you all a nice idea about how a similar thread here would help, if used and a mod stickies it so it is always seen by new members.
as im soon departing this forum for a new device..i will not start such a thread. But will always stop in to help support it.
Have a great day,
Gil81 ( John )