Okay, this isn't "exactly" a noob question---I've been puttering around these boards and goofing off with my NT since December. And it's not that I "can't" find the answers on my own---my concern is that I'll find what I "think" are answers only to find out I was wrong. So, since flashing to cm7 can SERIOUSLY screw up my NT, I'm gonna go the prudent route and dot all my T's before I take the plunge.
Potentially pertinent info---my NT is currently internally rooted a la Indirect, with a 16gb card in the slot, and build modded to spoof a Nexus S. I have apps/games installed, with ebooks (read through B&N reader) and a few movies on internal memory (moved there via Root Explorer).
1) I understand that prerequisite to loading cm7, I need CWM installed. Anybody got a link to those instructions?
2) When I go to backup my stuff (via Titanium) will it back up ALL my stuff---apps, books, movies, etc---or just the apps?
The rest I can pretty much figure out myself via the pertinent threads. I ain't chicken$#!7 to mod my NT, but this thing is my LIFELINE at work (you have no idea the sheer VALUE of entertainment until you get a job as a security guard!) so I'm very cautious about anything that might have me sitting post, bored to tears because I didn't pay close enough attention or was too proud to ask a noob question
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To install CWM (you don't necessarily HAVE to install it internally, but it is convenient), instructions are here
I believe you can set TiBU to back up anything you want. Dig around in it, set a new event and select what you want.
Books purchased through B&N will still be available to read through the B&N market app.
Don't forget to cross your i's
As a side note, Celtic is working on putting together an SDCARD version of CM7. I'm not sure exactly what the hold up is, but if you want to wait a minute, you could go that route as well and 'test the waters'
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To install CWM (you don't necessarily HAVE to install it internally, but it is convenient), instructions are here
I believe you can set TiBU to back up anything you want. Dig around in it, set a new event and select what you want.
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Excellent! Thanks large
Books purchased through B&N will still be available to read through the B&N market app.
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I've actually got the books all saved to my HDD---I just didn't wanna lose my bookmarks if I didn't have to.
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Roger that
As a side note, Celtic is working on putting together an SDCARD version of CM7. I'm not sure exactly what the hold up is, but if you want to wait a minute, you could go that route as well and 'test the waters'
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Right, and I've considered that, but when I did cm7 sd card on my wife's NC, it ran kinda sluggish, and I wanted to avoid that with my NT.
Further, when they release cm9 or cm7-Beta, I'd like to know more of what I'm doing so I can be a little less cautious
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Once you flash cm7 I recommend installing wifi analyzer. If you end up with wifi issues it will allow you to reconnect without having to reboot. Also volume + will unleash those speakers so you can play videos and actually hear then at a reasonable volume.
As to the sdcard cm7 running sluggish, The only one I tried was a test build, and I never felt a difference at all. And I only use a class 4 sdcard (16gb). I think the NC just runs sluggish period.
Thanks a lot, guys
One more question---is ADB included in the CWM link you posted to me? If not, is it prerequisite to installing CWM?
EDIT: In the link you provided, I found another link to a CWM APK, which seems to pretty much take the guess work out of the whole deal. Guess I know what I'll be doing this weekend (gotta give myself enough time to fix this thing if I jack it up LOL)
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Thanks a lot, guys
One more question---is ADB included in the CWM link you posted to me? If not, is it prerequisite to installing CWM?
EDIT: In the link you provided, I found another link to a CWM APK, which seems to pretty much take the guess work out of the whole deal. Guess I know what I'll be doing this weekend (gotta give myself enough time to fix this thing if I jack it up LOL)
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To be honest, I don't remember if it is linked there or not. You can find the ADB.exe and the adb_usb.ini needed in the nook&zergy root from Indirect. (should still be stickied in the dev section). It's been a minute, I don't remember how I actually put CWM on my NT. I have it internally installed, as well as running a copy on a CyanoBoot sdcard atm.
Ya know, I'm rooted with Indirect, so I think I may already HAVE ADB.
Cool. One less thing...
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I did one flash...to TNT version 4xx, and I loved it...but I'm finding I'm getting lots of Google Framework errors and generally just kind of want to start from scratch, over again.....go back to the latest version of the official viewsonic roms.
Sadly I didn't use clockwork or anything so I think my original files are history
I know there are lots of threads, and I tried to follow one about snagging a rom and moving it to the Root and all it does is re-install TNT I think I am "not getting something".
Can someone walk me through this....
The force closes can be fixed by re-partitioning your sd card. Part 1 Step 7 in this tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
But partitioning will erase everything, and is usually done after installing cwm and before flashing a rom.
You really don't want to go back to stock, especially if it's only to gain stability. All the force closes will go away when the tablet is properly formatted.
If your looking to go back to stock, I like nvflash, but there are easier ways.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861950
Force closing is a known issue that can be easily fixed by repartitioning your internal sd card to the right specs. It has nothing to do with your newly flashed rom.
What you need to do is back up all your data on the sdcard and then go into clockworkmod advance and repartition to 2048/0.
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To be honest, your original post tells me the gtab isn't for you. I say a mainstream device like the ipad is more for you. Here is why. In order to use the gtab, you need to do the following things.
(1) Install clockworkmod.
(2) Use clockworkmod to repartition to fix the force closing issue.
(3) Use clockworkmod to flash a new rom.
And you're done. The entire process takes about 10 minutes at most.
Again, steps 1-3 should take you 10 minutes at most and the device is ready for use. If you find yourself frustrated by one of these steps or that you're spending more than 20 minutes, then the gtab is not for you and you need to get a mainstream device.
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Again, steps 1-3 should take you 10 minutes at most and the device is ready for use. If you find yourself frustrated by one of these steps or that you're spending more than 20 minutes, then the gtab is not for you and you need to get a mainstream device.
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This recommendation is of course assuming you have no determination whatsoever, and are incapable of learning anything new.
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This recommendation is of course assuming you have no determination whatsoever, and are incapable of learning anything new.
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Look, for most people this device is a toy. I use it at work, and I suspect most people don't do this. Let's admit it. Modding a device isn't for everybody.
I went into modding the gtab as a total android newbie. And yet it took me all of 15 minutes to figure out how to install clockworkmod, repartition, and flash a custom rom. Then a week after I flashed a custom kernel.
You just can't ask everybody to go through the headache of modding a device if they have neither the will nor the time.
I said 15 minutes because that was my first time ever modding an android device. After that first time, it took me about 5 minutes to do my second device.
It's a simple process to go through. If a person gets stuck on any of those 3 steps, then I think it's best that they get a mainstream device. The gtab just isn't for everybody.
HeadRusch1,
I think you can handle modding the gTab. If you understand how a file system works, can extract a zip, and have already flashed a custom ROM then your about 90% of the way to a smooth running gTab. As mentioned above, you simply missed one step.
I understand the "10 minutes or forget it" argument, however I think it's wildly inaccurate when gauging a new user's potential competency with the gTab. If you find yourself frustrated then go read some more, search for a solution, or ask a question. It should take a long time to get comfortable modifying Android devices, there are tons of loosely documented best practices, but don't bail early because it's hard.
PS.
This assumes your looking for a device to tinker with. Goodintentions is right for users who are looking for iPad equivalent. I just assume that users looking for a cheap iPad rarely make it as far as XDA. And if they have, then it's a good opportunity to encourage further exploration.
The reason I gave the 20 minutes advice is because I've seen too many people buying the gtab thinking they got an ipad. The gtab isn't mainstream at all even though it's outsold a lot of the mainstream devices out there (ahem xoom) by several orders of magnitude. Customer support for the gtab is almost non-existent. And don't hold your breath for updates from viewsonic.
I absolutely love my gtab. I am currently running vegan ginger OC to 1.2ghz. The speed on my gtab is absolutely stunning. There's no jerking at all. My touchscreen is incredibly sensitive. Viewing angle has never bothered me. I love the full size usb where I can just put a memory stick in there just like my laptop. The autocad app is extremely helpful for me. In fact, it's been a whole week since I turned on my laptop.
That said, again, this device is not mainstream. Meaning it's not for most people. I am absolutely convinced that most people would be better off with something like the ipad or transformer.
Based on my experience, there are two types of people in the world of gadgets. (1) Those who sees a problem and see the end of the world and (2) those who sees a problem and try to get around it.
An example of #1 is my friend Sarah. She wanted to use my gtab to get a feel for it. She said the touchscreen bothered her and that she was more comfortable with a laptop touchpad more. And then she said "I don't know, I think I'll be better off with an ipad." LOL. Boy is she going to be so surprised to find out the ipad also uses the touchscreen rather than an touchpad.
Anyway, another example is one of my colleagues. After I told him the autocad app doesn't work with 3-D view yet, he acted like it was the end of the world. Me, I just use the side, top, and front views in my demos. Works just fine for me.
Anyway, I'm rambling now. The point is my experiences tell me most people are better off with something like an ipad or transformer. Since those devices are mainstream, people can't say "of course you can't do this, you can't do that". With the gtab, since it is not mainstream, the smallest inconvenience means the end of the world.
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I did one flash...to TNT version 4xx, and I loved it...but I'm finding I'm getting lots of Google Framework errors and generally just kind of want to start from scratch, over again.....go back to the latest version of the official viewsonic roms.
Sadly I didn't use clockwork or anything so I think my original files are history
I know there are lots of threads, and I tried to follow one about snagging a rom and moving it to the Root and all it does is re-install TNT I think I am "not getting something".
Can someone walk me through this....
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Plug the gtablet into the computer.
Mount it for file transfer when prompted.
Check for an "update.zip" file at the root of the SD card (That's the tablet's 16gb internal memory). Delete it using your computer. That was causing TNT to be reloaded.
Here's the link to the original 3588 version they shipped with: http://tapntap.http.internapcdn.net/tapntap/viewsonic/update-smb_a1002-3588-user.zip Save it to your computer. Rename it "update.zip". Copy it to the root of the gtablet SD. Shut off the tablet. Unplug the USB cord. Restart with power & vol +
It should update.
If anyone notices a mistake, feel free to correct me. I've only flashed from stock 3588 to Vegan Ginger. So a whole 1x.
For what its worth, I tinkered and now I'm good.
Got NVFLASH working, went back to stock. Then went to Clockwork, then went to Vegan 5.1.1, then to CM7, now back to Vegan. I've found some apps that work and I'm liking it more. For the record, I own an Ipad2 as well.
Now, to those who chose to comment: You guys need to understand that many of those links are drowning in "extra information", and that is fine if you don't mind clicking hyperlink to hyperlink to do some trial and error, but now with multiple install path choices and whatnot, it gets confusing and it also means you have some time. I asked for someone, possibly someone in my shoes who has been down the path, to walk me through the steps.
Some of you did, some of you projected some assumptions with the underlying message of "RTFM".
This, too, was my first dip into the Android pool. Thanks for the help.
HeadRusch1 said:
I'm getting lots of Google Framework errors and generally just kind of want to start from scratch, over again.....go back to the latest version of the official viewsonic roms.
Sadly I didn't use clockwork or anything...
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I had that issue and didn't have clockwork.
Solution:
1: install clockwork
2: boot into clockwork, and select 'fix permissions'.
3: reboot, tablet fixed
I can't decide. I've watched youtube videos of both of them and they both look impressive. The nook tablet being $150 cheaper than the galaxy tab is very nice. But I'm hesitating because last summer I bought a nook color and wasn't all that impressed with it even after rooting it. The overall performance didn't meet my expectations. It's sluggish, N64oid doesn't work on the latest cyanogenmod for it, the internet browser crashes, I keep losing my wi-fi connection, etc. In the youtube videos I watched the rooted nook tablet looks like it fixed all of these issues. But I'm still not sure. I don't wanna make the same mistake again. I want a full android experience. Even if it means spending the extra money on the galaxy tab. What should I do?
The Nook Tablet is MUCH faster than the Nook Color (I had one), but I don't have N64oid, so I don't know the performance of running that.
To be honest, if you want PURE Android OS experience WITHOUT the hassle of sideloading GoLauncher, preventing OTA updates, etc..etc.., then get the Galaxy Tab 7 Plus. But if cost is important and you don't mind fiddling with the above, then go with the Nook.
I had the Nook Tablet since it came out and I spent more time trying to get it to work as a pure Android tablet than actually enjoying it, such as sideloading app, figuring out why certain apps doesn't work, etc.. and NOW I got the dreaded 1.41 update.
I am still trying to figure out this 1.4.1 update. When I revert back to 1.4.0, in order to use the NT, I had to turn on Wifi and register. Afterwards, I tried to sideload GoLauncher because I need to download Android Market app in order to get Titanium Backup (TB). TB is required to prevent the OTA update. However, before I get to downloading TB, I received the freakin OTA update again!!
I just want an Android tablet that I can use AND cheap, but apparently the headache of all the above made me not really enjoying the Tablet. So I am putting up my NT for sale and buying the Galaxy 7.0 Plus OR Galaxy Note, whenever it comes out here in the USA
The above is just my experience, so your mileage may vary.
the dilema is simple if you have the money go for the galaxy tab if someday the nook tablet gets the bootloader finally unlocked then u could sell your galaxy tablet and go for the nook tablet and get some bucks back to you , but if you get to love and need the whole (camera + other addons) experience then stick with the galaxy
That was actually very helpful. It does sound like a hassle/headache. Thanks.
lavero.burgos said:
the dilema is simple if you have the money go for the galaxy tab if someday the nook tablet gets the bootloader finally unlocked then u could sell your galaxy tablet and go for the nook tablet and get some bucks back to you , but if you get to love and need the whole (camera + other addons) experience then stick with the galaxy
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I am fine with no camera, but I think the final straw was when I am trying to go back to 1.4.0 AND stop the OTA from happening again. Twice I tried the method I posted above, TWICE I get the OTA update before I can prevent it.
I know CM7 will come in when the bootloader is unlocked, but it probably will be months away before it becomes stable on the Tablet.
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That was actually very helpful. It does sound like a hassle/headache. Thanks.
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Don't forget to hit the "Thanks" button.
Hey guys, who should I sell my nook color too? And how much can I expect to get for it?
Try Amazon.com. Search for the "Nook Color" and when it show up, look at the right side, there is a button that state "Sell yours here".
I avoid eBay because of the scammers and Paypal HOLD your money for 2-4 weeks before releasing it to you. If the buyer "complaint" about your item, valid or not, then Paypal hold it even longer.
Not sure the going price for the NC nowadays.
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Hey guys, who should I sell my nook color too? And how much can I expect to get for it?
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why will you sell your nook color? it has cm7 and MIUI support. Is not that great as it looks?
lavero.burgos said:
why will you sell your nook color? it has cm7 and MIUI support. Is not that great as it looks?
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Because I need the funds for the samsung galaxy tab 7.0 plus. I wouldn't need both. Especially when the nook color wouldn't get used once I have the galaxy tab.
Check Craigslist
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Hey guys, who should I sell my nook color too? And how much can I expect to get for it?
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In excellent condition, about $120 (unless you have extra accessories). Remember that B&N refurbs with a standard 1-year warranty are $149.
lanwarrior said:
I am fine with no camera, but I think the final straw was when I am trying to go back to 1.4.0 AND stop the OTA from happening again. Twice I tried the method I posted above, TWICE I get the OTA update before I can prevent it.
I know CM7 will come in when the bootloader is unlocked, but it probably will be months away before it becomes stable on the Tablet.
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Don't forget to hit the "Thanks" button.
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The 1.4.1 update is 283 MB. You must have a relatively fast connection
After restoring to 1.4.0 via Adam_Outler's method, you could try downloading something very large on your pc (large enough to effect the speed of all the devices on your network) while configuring the nook tablet to be rooted. Really all you need to download onto the Nook Tablet itself to root is the tgps_launcher.apk. Turn off your wifi after downloading it and then root. Continue to keep your wifi off on the NT.
On your pc, download the android central sideloading wonder machine here. Also the titantium backup apk from here. Use the sideloading wonder machine to install titantium backup. You need to have USB debugging enabled on the tablet just like during the rooting process via tgps_launcher. Now you can follow indirect's OTA blocking method here (all while keeping wifi off), and you should be safe.
The only time you will have wifi on is from first registering the device to downloading the tgps_launcher from here.
After the tgps_launcher is installed, there should be no need to turn on wifi until after you get the update block.
xdahgary was the person who suggested using the sideloading wonder machine, so credit goes to him (and indirect who figured out adb install works) for finding a way to sideload without having to use the web browser after the getting access to the development settings menu via tgps_launcher.
Thanks for the information. Didn't know I can download TB instead going to Market. I'll try it out and see how it goes.
My Internet speed is 24 Mbps, but average throughput is about 21 Mbps, so I think it's not that fast. Not sure how my Tablet can attempt to download the update so fast. But with WiFi off, should be no issue.
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The 1.4.1 update is 283 MB. You must have a relatively fast connection
After restoring to 1.4.0 via Adam_Outler's method, you could try downloading something very large on your pc (large enough to effect the speed of all the devices on your network) while configuring the nook tablet to be rooted. Really all you need to download onto the Nook Tablet itself to root is the tgps_launcher.apk. Turn off your wifi after downloading it and then root. Continue to keep your wifi off on the NT.
On your pc, download the android central sideloading wonder machine here. Also the titantium backup apk from here. Use the sideloading wonder machine to install titantium backup. You need to have USB debugging enabled on the tablet just like during the rooting process via tgps_launcher. Now you can follow indirect's OTA blocking method here (all while keeping wifi off), and you should be safe.
The only time you will have wifi on is from first registering the device to downloading the tgps_launcher from here.
After the tgps_launcher is installed, there should be no need to turn on wifi until after you get the update block.
xdahgary was the person who suggested using the sideloading wonder machine, so credit goes to him (and indirect who figured out adb install works) for finding a way to sideload without having to use the web browser after the getting access to the development settings menu via tgps_launcher.
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N64oid, runs beautifully. I play Mario kart 64 on a rather regular basis.
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Great post, darkquota! You saved me typing all of that!
lanwarrior, let me know if that method worked for you.
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lanwarrior, let me know if that method worked for you.
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I just spent hours trying to get by the first step: going back to 1.4.0.
I followed the link above (AdamOutler's method) and downloaded the file (acclaim-update_stockrecovery.zip). Put it in the SD card and then put the card into the NT. Rebooted NT....nothing happened, just back to NT normal screen.
I tried 4 different SD cards (Kingston, Transcend, SanDisk with varying size, from 4GB to 32GB) and same..nothing.
I viewed the YouTube video instructions and noted the filename that was downloaded is "acclaim-update.zip", no "_stockrecovery" word. So I renamed the file and tried again.... same thing.
So the 1st step failed..so far. I am also preparing for the 2nd step, which is getting the Android Central Sideload wonder and the link for the Mac is DOWN. I don't have a Windows box, so I have to wait till someone posted the link again.
This is what I meant in my post no. 2 above, where it just taking TOO MUCH of MY TIME just to get the NT function as a pure Android OS (I don't care about GPS or Camera). It's not fun going to Fry's Electronics, bought THREE (3) different SD cards and found out none of them works for restoring to 1.4.0, AMONG OTHER THINGS that I have to do to get to pure Android OS.
Not complaining against the NT, nor to the people who helped me with the instructions, but I just want something that doesn't take too much of my time.
read post #82 & #85 in this thread: may be everybody's problem....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402190&page=9
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gwreedak said:
read post #82 & #85 in this thread: may be everybody's problem....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402190&page=9
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Was LITERALLY about to post about that same link...
anyways...i was debating on taking it back as well...i just can't anymore...even with a locked boatloader, i still have, essentially, UNLIMITED storage...sure, i gotta swap out sd cards, but hey wtf...i can have 16gb of TV shows, 8gbs of movies, and 32gb of music...and all of fits in my wallet....no cloud needed, no wifi needed, BUT if want, i got the flix and crackle on there too!!
so in the end....sure we may have a locked bootloader, but we can still use ADW and get most of the apps we want online...it's not as easy, but its still cheaper and slicker...
B&N will either unlock it soon, it is the holiday season people and not everyone is working, or some amazing dev will see that shiny weak spot in the code....patience....
hell, over at the SGSII forum, they have the ICS code for weeks now and still don't have a stable ROM on that beast of phone....patience....
Progress seems to be being made on the bootloader over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378886
Nexus S 4G 4.0.3
The remainder are incompatible micro SD cards. My 16GB Sandisk wouldn't work but a 4GB Sandisk did work.
With respect to the Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, I'm tempted to turn in my Nook and get this. The frustration level has already exceeded the additional cost. I'd also like a SIP app like Sipdroid or Csipsimple to work on this device but so far I haven't found any. I suspect this wouldn't be an issue on the Galaxy.
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read post #82 & #85 in this thread: may be everybody's problem....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402190&page=9
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Curious for those of us without the proper tools or the know how to do this properly. This works for the Note but can also work for any other device.
Just study up. Read the instructions. Visit the general section and read. Flashing is easy. Best to just learn. Watch some YouTube videos. Be careful. Have fun.
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Just study up. Read the instructions. Visit the general section and read. Flashing is easy.
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You missed the part in the OP about not having the proper tools. No amount of reading or studying or preparing can help when the tool is made for Windows and you're running a Mac (or no computer at all).
OP -- I'm sure there's plenty of people on here who do (or would help you with) flashing ROMs but a lot of that is going to depend on where you live. Best bet: Craigslist and see if you can find someone in the Cell Phones section who does that. Denver (yes... where I am) has a ton of shops that will flash custom ROMs for you - but of course they want you to pay for the privilege.
However - I would really recommend finding someone local and trustworthy. Don't EVER send someone your device, because let's be honest - you'll most likely never see it again unless you're sending it to a real business.
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Curious for those of us without the proper tools or the know how to do this properly. This works for the Note but can also work for any other device.
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First....start off at YouTube, and watch people root the Nexus One over ADB. You'll learn a few tricks...but most importantly, you'll learn your way around the device manager and the command prompt in windows. While it may seem daunting at first...there are only a few commands you'll need to learn.
That solves the problem you'd have with rooting and installing Clockwork Mod (the basis for flashing any new ROMs.
Lastly...if you can find a valid windows installation (or you can even use a 90 day trial version of windows 7 enterprise) you'll want to install boot camp on your Mac...which allows you to run windows on your Mac. Easily.
By no means am I an android powerhouse, but I do work in IT and am handy with a device manager, various hosts, and windows and Mac.
The next best option would be to offer someone here 10-20 bucks to show you over Skype, or do it for you using go to meeting.
Remember 1 thing. Its actually hard to brick a device if you do a few things.
Only flash RC or final versions of ROMs. In general. These have been THOUROUGHLY tested. The more feedback for a ROM the better. Learn to search threads here frequently.
Don't go about customizing the software by flashing mods (until your more comfortable). Android provides a perfect host system for providing customization via the Play store. Widgets...toggles...backgrounds. Notification tweaks, and almost everything else you'll need can be found on the play store and easily uninstalled.
Lastly...always keep a backup of you're system
via Nandroid, and keep a backup of your apps with Titanium backup.
If you have any more questions....feel free to ask them here or PM me.
You can start by researching "how to do a Nandroid" and "what is clockwork recovery mod" in your favorite search engine.
If you think you can follow the simple steps of performing a Nandroid and you can find your way around Clockwork Recovery Mod....there really isn't much to worry about.
Bricking your device can usually be fixed in the case of a soft brick or boot loop. The real bricking usually happens when you flash software meant for another device, or don't follow instructions.
Once you've flashed your first ROM...you'll find that the process is remarkably similar for all mods ROMs and other packages.
Appreciate the replies. The largest problem I have is the computer itself. I have whole rooms of computers sitting across the street at KSU. Not a problem to use and my pick of OS. The problem lies in they are public and get wiped on shutdown. So no backup. Thoughts?
I've done updates across various Mobiles for years like that.
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Appreciate the replies. The largest problem I have is the computer itself. I have whole rooms of computers sitting across the street at KSU. Not a problem to use and my pick of OS. The problem lies in they are public and get wiped on shutdown. So no backup. Thoughts?
I've done updates across various Mobiles for years like that.
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Honestly - Once you get CWM setup on the phone there's very little if any need for a computer. I'm not sure what you mean by "backup" but since you're talking about public computers - let's just run through this scenario:
Go across the street and install CWM. Now, let's say a few days later a new ROM comes out. Woohoo! Assuming you've already flashed CWM, all you need to do is shutdown your phone, backup it up in recovery. This saves to your external SD. Reboot. Download new ROM save to internal SD. Shutdown, pull external SD, boot to recovery, flash away.
If you're worried about it - buy a USB external drive and use the university computer to copy the contents of your external SD across to the hard drive every one in a while.
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Honestly - Once you get CWM setup on the phone there's very little if any need for a computer. I'm not sure what you mean by "backup" but since you're talking about public computers - let's just run through this scenario:
Go across the street and install CWM. Now, let's say a few days later a new ROM comes out. Woohoo! Assuming you've already flashed CWM, all you need to do is shutdown your phone, backup it up in recovery. This saves to your external SD. Reboot. Download new ROM save to internal SD. Shutdown, pull external SD, boot to recovery, flash away.
If you're worried about it - buy a USB external drive and use the university computer to copy the contents of your external SD across to the hard drive every one in a while.
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Now that sounds like a plan. Hmmm. Maybe I can do this myself. Now I need to find a stock stable ICS with NFC enabled. Even better would be one to take advantage of the radio hidden by AT&T. It would be nice to have the option to pop and flop.
Exactly. Once the initial root and new recovery menu is done then you are set. Between a CWM nandroid, Titanium Backup, MybackupPro, and even Appsaver your only real limitation is set by how large your external sdcard is.
You can even use online storage sites like Minus, Google Drive, Drop Box etc to host all of the files so that you can access them anywhere.
Hmmm. What's the closest stock ICS out there right now, if I may?
I am running Flapjaxx Unofficial ICS and it is super smooth. I plan on switching to his latest though once it is finished downloading.
netsyd said:
Honestly - Once you get CWM setup on the phone there's very little if any need for a computer. I'm not sure what you mean by "backup" but since you're talking about public computers - let's just run through this scenario:
Go across the street and install CWM. Now, let's say a few days later a new ROM comes out. Woohoo! Assuming you've already flashed CWM, all you need to do is shutdown your phone, backup it up in recovery. This saves to your external SD. Reboot. Download new ROM save to internal SD. Shutdown, pull external SD, boot to recovery, flash away.
If you're worried about it - buy a USB external drive and use the university computer to copy the contents of your external SD across to the hard drive every one in a while.
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+1 on any Flappjaxxx ROM btw. So you pull your external sd? Have you ever had an issue or is it just a precaution?
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bmstrong said:
Appreciate the replies. The largest problem I have is the computer itself. I have whole rooms of computers sitting across the street at KSU. Not a problem to use and my pick of OS. The problem lies in they are public and get wiped on shutdown. So no backup. Thoughts?
I've done updates across various Mobiles for years like that.
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I wonder if it would help you to back up on google drive? Ive never tried it or anything but it could possibly give you some cloud space. Maybe a good option?
Yayodroid said:
I wonder if it would help you to back up on google drive? Ive never tried it or anything but it could possibly give you some cloud space. Maybe a good option?
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Yeah. I use both Drive and Dropbox, so no worries. The larger question I have is why do I need to back some of this stuff up? I've never been a big application guy. This Note has 4? Maybe 5 apps on it, aside from the stock Google services. SMS/MMS get deleted instantly or saved into the Cloud. And email moved with my Gmail account and that gets barfed back into each Mobile I use very easily.
Titanium backup seems like a pain in the ass. All I'm after is a clean stock ICS build, a way to shut off the hard keys and replace them with soft buttons, and that MHL works. Turning this Note into a portable LTE MHL Chromebox with a fantastic screen. The option to flop and plop would be nice...
you dont have to back up, but personally i would like to have my own personal backup of stock. of course there are stock odins around here. but in your situation it might be more handy on the cloud to access anytime. you might want to use the back up to flash back to for when they release ics over the air.
Service makes some sense
If you've read many of the questions that some poeple ask on these forums, it really makes me think that certain people really shouldn't be trying some of these things themselves. Most of us have no problem reading and understanding rudimentary steps to get us going, but some people come in with little to no foundation in these matters; what we're saying really is Greek to them. I feel bad, but for these people, I encourage them to seek out someone that knows, at least on a basic level, what they are doing.
I've written looooong, detailed tutorials for people and I'm glad to do it. But sometimes even after that, I get the feeling that these people will still end up messing their phones up. I've been proven right on at least two occasion and I can't help but feel bad... So maybe a pool of people in each area capable and willing to do these kinds of things might make sense. Haven't thought through how that would work, but maybe. Hmmm...
bmstrong said:
Hmmm. What's the closest stock ICS out there right now, if I may?
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Im using team perfections ics ucle2 objection with rc1 its great as well as fj's
sent from team perfections ics rom
Extremely interesting process and results. I still have a host of questions, why certain things are done in a certain order, what exactly some of the things do that I did, and why when I did not make a back up of anything, it said specifically that it failed, some of my apps and vids are still here in the new FJ ROM. Just a fasincinating first time experience from someone who has always used stock Nexi. The ROM isn't really my taste, I hate Apex and there is bloat apps in it. But!
I feel like the old Quantum Leap show...
You can debloat with tibu. Also, you can use any launcher you want.
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All, I've gone through many of the forums here and all I am now is confused. Issue: Had CWM and NVFLASH on and Honeycomb on gtab. Some issues, wanted to go back to stock. Followed instructions; however, now it's in a loop. I cannot get to it via PC. Holding power and volume key, see the 3 birds and "recovery key detected, goes to gtablet screen, goes to screen with a box (arrow in it pointing down) and status bar across bottom, goes to w/tap n tap screen, goes to screen with tnt; then reboots through the process again and again. I've spent the past two weeks going through the internet and reading the various methods to unbrick, none work; because I can't get to the internal SD card.
Is there a way to fix this? Is there a way to use the external micro-SD card? Or do I just need to throw this thing away? Any assistance would be appreciated. Oh, I've tried the Code Red and every other unbricking method I came across.
Thank you in advance, Michael
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Since you are only experiencing a cycled boot loop then you are not bricked. There is still hope.
What NVflash file did you use to get back to stock?
Which bootloader do you want to run?
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummie...268582d53a1&fw_sig_social=1&fb_sig_network=fw
This website helped me out allot when I was in a jam.
nobe1976 said:
Since you are only experiencing a cycled boot loop then you are not bricked. There is still hope.
What NVflash file did you use to get back to stock?
Which bootloader do you want to run?
http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummie...268582d53a1&fw_sig_social=1&fb_sig_network=fw
This website helped me out allot when I was in a jam.
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I grabbed the latest one. Basically, I'm almost at the "throw it in the trash" stage. If there is a way to boot from the external SD card to load the stock 1.1 version; that's what I would like to do and give this to my niece. Thank you for replying.
Michael
There is a way to "install clockwork from external SD" - search that phrase and you should find it.
BTW- If you plan on trashing it, I'll pay for shipping to my house. I'll 'throw it away' for you
new_to-droid said:
I grabbed the latest one. Basically, I'm almost at the "throw it in the trash" stage. If there is a way to boot from the external SD card to load the stock 1.1 version; that's what I would like to do and give this to my niece. Thank you for replying.
Michael
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Well all and all I know your fustration. The first link I beleive you are using is the Stock 1.1 from the 3588 branch. That one I used before and had nothing but issues. The best one to use is from the 4349 branch perfered with CWM pre-installed. After flashing that file shut the Tablet off during boot up. Then boot into recovery mode by holding down the volume + while pressing the power button. Do a Wipe Data Factory reset, Clear Cache, and then under advance Wipe Dalvic Cache then go back to main menu of CWM and reboot device. Make sure you don't select reboot recovery since that will not let you boot into anything but CWM. TNT TabUI will then boot up and you chould be good to go.
Thanks...but
Thanks to everyone. I still can't get this darn thing to connect to the PC or CWM to run. I would love to be able to just put it back to stock and be done with it. The more I work with Android devices, the more I'm convinced that I will stick with Windows or Apple. Android is great, but until there is a one size fits all solution; the tweaking and manipulation one has to do just to increase the functionality is what will be Android's downfall. Nothing is "simple" with Android and unless you're a programmer; there isn't much one can do with it. Partially it is the manufacturer's fault (i.e. Viewsonic) for putting out crap that doesn't even work; part of it is Google for not requiring standards for Android (yeah, no standards are great because one can explore/tweak/etc); and it is my fault (for this instance) for thinking that I could tweak and enhance my system. So, I'll put this thing up on Craigslist and see if I can make some change with it and get a newer device or just stick with a laptop and be done with it. Thanks again everyone for all your help.
$$Price?
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new_to-droid said:
Thanks to everyone. I still can't get this darn thing to connect to the PC or CWM to run. I would love to be able to just put it back to stock and be done with it. The more I work with Android devices, the more I'm convinced that I will stick with Windows or Apple. Android is great, but until there is a one size fits all solution; the tweaking and manipulation one has to do just to increase the functionality is what will be Android's downfall. Nothing is "simple" with Android and unless you're a programmer; there isn't much one can do with it. Partially it is the manufacturer's fault (i.e. Viewsonic) for putting out crap that doesn't even work; part of it is Google for not requiring standards for Android (yeah, no standards are great because one can explore/tweak/etc); and it is my fault (for this instance) for thinking that I could tweak and enhance my system. So, I'll put this thing up on Craigslist and see if I can make some change with it and get a newer device or just stick with a laptop and be done with it. Thanks again everyone for all your help.
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Sorry to see that your experience with your newly found failure did not come with a price of knowledge. Truth be sayed I am no programmer, geek or knowledge of script writing either, but what I can pass along to all new-to-android persons is that your best path is to read and follow instructions to the T or you will end up with a expensive paper wait. The web link I posted above is pretty self explained and I give that man credit because I was a newbie too once. Then somewhere in these forums I found that website and was able to recover from just about anything that happened to my poor Gtab. Hell, I even had to drill a hole in the back of the case just because I wanted more and there was ICS from Team DRH. But truth be said that web link is your path and only path to going back to the stock UI and recovery.
Price
50 plus shipping to us only
new_to-droid said:
50 plus shipping to us only
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I'll buy it. DIBS EVERYONE!
PM me with your info and I'll have the money sent right away.
Even if I couldn't get it to work, I could use it for parts for my current g-tab.
EDIT: Don't mind my post count. I'm very active on SD, just not here.
Just wanted to mention that I have not been PM'd or replied to. Hope this guy got his tab to work.
(Solved) ext SD root method will root the update 1.4.3!
I rooted 1.4.2 with ext sd and alls been well. Tonight I was doing some mods etc and accidentaly turn off ota block. Soon as i turn off it started dl to 1.4.3. I didnt lose adw launcher or kindle launcher but it did delete su and a couple of files. Neet to get root to fix some files etc. Help
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Try and gain root access the same way you did for 1.4.2.
Let us know how it goes.
re-root ok on 1.4.3
I re-rooted mine, using SD_ROOT_NT16or8gb4_7.zip file Just flashed over what was already there. Didn't have to change much afterwards, had to re-register GooglePlay, etc. No issues thus far. Now for the OTA block ..
ableman.67 said:
I re-rooted mine, using SD_ROOT_NT16or8gb4_7.zip file Just flashed over what was already there. Didn't have to change much afterwards, had to re-register GooglePlay, etc. No issues thus far. Now for the OTA block ..
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Got a link to that zip?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439630
[SD Root] Make 16 or 8GB Nook Tablet Root SD Cards by Albert Wertz [SDNT16or8gbV4.7]
I made card; then instructions on how to use the card steps 1-4 & reboot. Everything let me in after that. I think I've managed to block all future OTAs, but I thought I did before too.
ableman.67 said:
I re-rooted mine, using SD_ROOT_NT16or8gb4_7.zip file Just flashed over what was already there. Didn't have to change much afterwards, had to re-register GooglePlay, etc. No issues thus far. Now for the OTA block ..
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So you are confirming that this works....its an update from when I did mine so I created a new boot SD. My nt is charging so when its done I'll run it. Btw I did the kindle fire mod to it and its pretty cool. I had just finished it and playing with, accidentally turn ota updates blocker off, then boom 1.4.3. I'm going to try voodoo root keeper.
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samsgun357 said:
Btw I did the kindle fire mod to it and its pretty cool. I had just finished it and playing with, accidentally turn ota updates blocker off, then boom 1.4.3. I'm going to try voodoo root keeper.
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Okay, color me curious. Please tell us more of your adventures. i'll put on a fresh pot of coffee and close the door so the teenager's noise ( boom, boom ) is slightly less obtrusive... . is this like creating a mule from a horse and a donkey ? the nook is the horse right ?
old_fart said:
Okay, color me curious. Please tell us more of your adventures. i'll put on a fresh pot of coffee and close the door so the teenager's noise ( boom, boom ) is slightly less obtrusive... . is this like creating a mule from a horse and a donkey ? the nook is the horse right ?
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Well old_fart, I'm surprised you have a smart device, thought you old farts stuck to land lines. If the nook is the horse than you are the donkey lol. It is a cool addition to NT, but it sounds like these things bore you. You are not required to read my posts. Good day.....I said good day to you sir!
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Came across these issues since re-root, App manager not working on nook home page and no clear button notifications.
Anybody else having issues?
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