I have an order for a Prime on Amazon, and I'm waiting for it to ship. At this point, would you wait for the TF700T (given all the potential hardware problems with the Prime) or just go for it. I know about the "technology gets better all the time stuff", but what would you do, TODAY, if you knew what you knew now.
wait. I have a prime and the dock I love it..but if you spent time waiting for say the TF700 who's to say that there won't be something better a little bit later down the road..
!!senseless sensation!!
I just got my second prime due to the HDMI out port dying on my first one, most likely because I dropped off the back of my couch. Both primes I have owned have been great no wifi problems or reboots. GPS is hit or miss but I think i read on these forums that a hardware fix is in the works. That being said. No way am I paying 100 bucks more for a plastic back and a slightly better screen. I don't need GPS to work full speed minus wifi on my tablet.....I have a phone for that...and like I said i never had wifi problems.
So my answer is i would not wait for the tf700....plus you never know what kinda problems they are going to have with that one....at least with the prime you know all the POTENTIAL issues and can deal with them.
Personally, I would wait a while. It sounds like ASUS is providing some kind of Hardware fix to Primes that are not working correctly, but parts are not available yet. That combined with the lack of stock almost anywhere leads me to believe that production of new units has been slowed/stopped. My guess is that they are using whatever stock they have remaining to primarily replace units that are being returned by customers.
Whether they are waiting to ramp up production with "the new hardware" or are winding down on the Prime altogether is unclear (at least to me). But it seems definite that "something" is up with the prime production.
I would wait to see what shakes out in the next couple of months unless you are desperate for a new tablet.
I wouldn't wait if I were you. In all honesty, the TF700 is not that much of a step up from the TF201, and in my opinion it is not worth the extra $100. The only reason that I would wait is if GPS a deal breaker for you (which I think most people have a hard time making this argument).
So its 50:50 up until now
i have to say, i wouldnt either. The prime is fantastic. In most cases the wifi issues (if there are any, in my case there are none) arent a problem in reality because youtube HD stuff wont interrupt to buffer, neither do high quality flash streams on the browser. And thats what counts in the end. IMHO.
So the infinity tab will be a great device as well, but there is much uncertainty about it still. No one knows the exact pricing, if there will be issues, if they will be in stock etcetc. With the prime you know what you get - and that is almost perfect. Pretend the prime is a wifi only device without gps btw. And then be happy that they implemented a GPS sensor anyway that works for positioning not for navigation.
Its such an awesome product giving you soo much for the price. And its stunningly beautiful and feels very premium. If manufacturers release plastic only products like samsung, people always cry for aluminum. On the prime its there.
And the incoming games!? We're gonna lol at infinity blade!
There is no good answer. The TF700 may be out next week and it may not be out until holiday season this year. It's also going to be more expensive. Basically is that screen worth an extra $100 and maybe several months of waiting?
Usually in the technology world you buy what you need or want at that time. Don't wait unless you know when something is being released otherwise you will never buy anything. Unless it is an Apple product the delay between the announcement and the time the actual product arrives on store shelves is usually many months. How much do you want to bet when the TF700 is released there will be a new tablet announced by someone that blows the TF700 away? That is the reality in the technology world.
Then there is the question of availability and QC. The Prime was released in mid December or something like that but not available for like a month and you had to either preorder or check websites every day to hopefully get one. And actually it is still like that and it's been a couple months. As for QC, well it is the same company so I am not sure why their QC will change. For all we know there will be QC issues with the TF700 as well. Screens seem to be a big issue with ASUS. I know since I had to return three primes due to screen issues. The original transformer had screen issues and a terrible dock battery issue that plagued early adopters for a long time.
I would say buy the Prime now. Have fun with it for many months. Once the TF700 is readily available and we know there are no QC issues go play with one in a store and see if it is worth selling your Prime. You will not be out much money if you go that route.
Go for it. I was in the same boat, but decided the extra money wasn't worth it.
The primary issues are WiFi and GPS. My GPS seems to grab sats and lock, but haven't really tried it on the road yet....but, not worried, because my Globasat Receiver BT359 works fine...so either way, I got GPS.
Wifi - all I care about is getting it to work about 2 rooms away from the router, and it also seems to work. The biggest issue for me was "ICS not permitting Ad-hoc network connections" with my smartphone (did not know that issue before I bought it) because that is my main source for internet when I travel. However, there is a fix on the board for that, so I can get a wifi connection no matter where I'm at.
So, even if GPS and WiFi turn out to be truly "flaky" when I really need it, I have the alternatives mentioned above and even buying a GPS receiver is cheaper than the $100.
The supposed improvement in screen resolution is not important unless you look at it through a magnifying glass. I doubt that the eye could really discern the difference
Lastly, They announced the prime coming out in October, then got pushed back, and they STILL aren't readily available. So, if they say the 700 is June release, I wouldn't expect to see it in the stores till Sept at the earliest...and ready supply....try Christmas.
Good luck,
Bob
PS....also remember, the people who post are the ones who have issues or "think" they have issues.....Some are real, some are due to lack of knowledge by the user. Remember, very few happy customers post and say "WOW". So, on any board, most operational questions are of the negative variety....and I'd also say again....A lot of that is the user
I'd say wait until the problems on the Prime get fixed or until the TF700T gets released. ASUS says there are only 1% of defective units. I'd say in my case is more like 100%. I bought/returned 4 Primes, they were all defective.
If you can wait for a tablet, I would wait. With the other android and an apple brands, newer asus tablets, and maybe a fix for the current prime coming out you will have more options to choose from. If you cant wait, buy a prime from a company that has a return window no questions asked and test it yourself.
Don't wait. I was in your position about 10 days ago and today I am happy I made the decision to buy.
My unit works fine (minus a bad firmware update that killed battery life), and it's beautiful. It's fast as hell and makes my **** feel huuuugggggeeeee having a quad core tablet.
The tf700 is barely an improvement for waiting and spending a hundred dollars more. The resolution increase will barely be noticeable - except on the hardware, which will likely be taking a beating from the screen. The transformer prime is the last tablet with an ips panel I will buy - waiting on future ips panels seems like a bad idea with the advancement of oled technology.
Looks like the TF300T just cleared the FCC, so maybe it won't take as long as I thought to get the TF700.
My real concern is that they are phasing out the Prime, which is why supplies are basically zero.
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There a new thread every day about this. I know it's a real cool thing to be a thread starter but you are pushing down useful threads with this nonsense.
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Every day the situation changes, so it makes sense that people are curious and that old threads won't still be relevant. I also see that every day, like clockwork, you scold or berate the poster like it's your job. What's more annoying, someone coming here advice seeking from other members, or the people that post just to post, without adding any real value. I've been a member since 2007, I know how XDA works.
"Pushing down useful threads" If you tell everyone who comes on here to just search anyway, who cares? 16 people offered thoughtful, relevant answers. You're the only one who had to insult the OP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523783
I would read this thread, seems like there is going to be new parts for the prime to improve wifi and GPS end of March. Maybe you should wait when it goes into effect in the production line.
Yeah, I'm usually the last one to wait, in fact I'm finally just now giving up on my viewsonic Gtab that I got right when it came out. It's tegra2, but stuck on froyo and even the best efforts of the devs on xda have resulted in a less than stellar ICS ROM. So, it's time to lay down some more money. I'm keeping my order at Amazon, and we'll just see which comes available first, the Prime or the TF700. Either way I'll be happy.
I think you should not wait.
1º No one knows when the Infinity will be for sale.
2º The improvement of screen is irrelevant for me;
3º The Infinity will not be smaller or lighter;
4º The Infinity will not be cheaper;
5º The Infinity will not be faster;
6º GPS should not be essential in a tablet and my Wifi is normal.
For me, the main improvement in the Infinity is the 3G and 4G option that the Prime do not have.
Anyone who prefer 3G/4G should wait.
For me, I am wait for an official firmware update on Prime that would enable connection with Ad Hoc networks, because I have Joiku software in my Nokia phone.
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I think you should not wait.
1º No one knows when the Infinity will be for sale.
2º The improvement of screen is irrelevant for me;
3º The Infinity will not be smaller or lighter;
4º The Infinity will not be cheaper;
5º The Infinity will not be faster;
6º GPS should not be essential in a tablet and my Wifi is normal.
For me, the main improvement in the Infinity is the 3G and 4G option that the Prime do not have.
Anyone who prefer 3G/4G should wait.
For me, I am wait for an official firmware update on Prime that would enable connection with Ad Hoc networks, because I have Joiku software in my Nokia phone.
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I on the other hand would not want the 3G. I currently pay for internet 3 times... (home internet and 2 unlimited data smartphone plans) so the last thing I want to do is to pay for another internet connection. I currently use my Thunderbolt to tether to the Prime (I use the Open Garden app) and it works great.
But for those who don't have a smartphone or don't want to tether from their phone to their tablet (which I don't know why you wouldn't) then it may be worth the wait.
Just get the prime! I love mine.. No issues part from gps but who needs that anyway.. And tbh why would u need a retina display on a 10.1" screen? Just don't see the point but that's my opinion
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Usually in the technology world you buy what you need or want at that time. Don't wait unless you know when something is being released otherwise you will never buy anything.
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I wanted a tablet but didn't NEED one.
I went from potentially choosing a TF101, then maybe buying a Thrive until i heard about the Prime and then i pulled the trigger.
Buy what you think is best NOW cause 2 months from now it'll all change again.
I'm in the same boat.. but I heard June now for the Infinity series.. no way I'm waiting 4 months.. I'm sure 6 more new tablets will be out by then anyway..
Besides, the HD screen is about the only real benefit I'd be interested in, and honestly, I've been re-watching Battlestar Galactica in SD on my iPad 2 for the last week and I enjoy it just the same as if it was in HD.. I'd love to have the HD panel, but IMO, 4 months and $100 more just isn't worth it to me.
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Just wondering what people think of the Padfone?
I might be late to this (most probably am), however i Just saw a few reviews about the padfone and now it looks very tempting to wait for it instead of ordering the Prime tomorrow.
I heard they'll be announcing it properly at the MWC...I guess it'll be 2 months after that, so around the tf700 time.
What do people think? Is it a gimmick that wouldn't get used? or something that could have a lot of potential?
Here's a video i saw that caught my eye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=z5aAOKJGBjo
It's attractive to folks who want to avoid paying for both a phone plan and a Tablet data plan and don't want to tether. Other than that it's gimmicky.
Wifi availability restricts your usage...
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Nice one Asus.
But not tempted, you can always wait for the next best thing. I also wonder if you can utilize this padfone fully without a phone in it.
I have more questions about this thing than I do answers, such as:
1. What carriers will support the phone? If it's not available on Sprint, it's a moot point for me.
2. Does the tablet support a dock? I've seen rumors that it will support the original Transformer dock, but no confirmation. If it doesn't, then it's also moot for me--I wouldn't get a tablet without an integrated keyboard dock.
3. Not to be unkind towards ASUS (I think there's too much of that going around already), but they've struggled making the Prime a reliable and consistent product so far. I wonder if they'll be better at making this thing, given that it's another order of magnitude more complex.
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I have more questions about this thing than I do answers, such as:
1. What carriers will support the phone? If it's not available on Sprint, it's a moot point for me.
2. Does the tablet support a dock? I've seen rumors that it will support the original Transformer dock, but no confirmation. If it doesn't, then it's also moot for me--I wouldn't get a tablet without an integrated keyboard dock.
3. Not to be unkind towards ASUS (I think there's too much of that going around already), but they've struggled making the Prime a reliable and consistent product so far. I wonder if they'll be better at making this thing, given that it's another order of magnitude more complex.
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There's a video where am asus rep confirms it working with the tf101 dock. And to the poster above you, the tablet won't work at all without the phone in it
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wynand32 said:
I have more questions about this thing than I do answers, such as:
1. What carriers will support the phone? If it's not available on Sprint, it's a moot point for me.
2. Does the tablet support a dock? I've seen rumors that it will support the original Transformer dock, but no confirmation. If it doesn't, then it's also moot for me--I wouldn't get a tablet without an integrated keyboard dock.
3. Not to be unkind towards ASUS (I think there's too much of that going around already), but they've struggled making the Prime a reliable and consistent product so far. I wonder if they'll be better at making this thing, given that it's another order of magnitude more complex.
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1) It will probably be sold as an unlocked sim card device!
2) it will dock! If you look on one video i watched the had a battery widget that showed phone tablet and dock battery life on it... And you can see the dock connectors on it!
But it's really cool a phone that docks in a tablet that docks in a keyboard! You could probably get like 24 hours of battery for the phone on 4g
3) what's complex about it it uses a micro hdmi to display the image to the tablet and a micro usb to charge the phone and communicate the touch portion of it... It's basically just a glorified touchscreen monitor
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Over the top IMHO, is the tablet just a case and phone screen enlarger, or are they 2 devices who can work together when needed and fully functional when separate?
I praise the courage of the concept, yet I don't feel engaged by it, others may disagree...
Cheers
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3) what's complex about it it uses a micro hdmi to display the image to the tablet and a micro usb to charge the phone and communicate the touch portion of it... It's basically just a glorified touchscreen monitor
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Not to be overly harsh, a few months ago I'd have asked, "What's so complex about the Prime?" I never would have expected so many build and design issues. Here we have a phone that has to sit inside a tablet and:
1. Have everything fit well, with no issues with tolerance. If some part is a tiny bit off, then the phone doesn't fit, or the cover doesn't close, or a connector abrades against a port and bends/breaks something, etc.
2. The phone sites inside the tablet. Yet, it provides all radio functionality (cell, GPS, wifi, Bluetooth). If the Prime has radio issues, imagine what could happen with this thing. And no, I don't think it's so easy to say, "Well, they just shouldn't use an all-metal back." The whole thing needs to be carefully design to ensure that all radios perform well.
I'm not saying ASUS absolutely can't design and manufacture this thing well, but after the Prime, I do have my doubts. Do note that I've had six Primes so far, and every single one has had a defect significant enough to warrant a replacement. So, maybe I'm a bit jaded.
Everyone always talking about this show or next show worth waiting for. Lol. People said same thing about one that just passed, and basically was a fail. As far as showing anything to beat the prime out. Asus already said it'll be June at the earliest when you will see the TF-700. Once people get that, they will be in for a big surprise. AROUND the same time or afterwards is when the next upgrade to tegra3 chip will be announced, Kal El+, or they might just jump to next one and forget the refresh. Its always about waiting for the next best thing. Of you do then you'll be waiting forever. Lmao
Plus what does this thread have to do with Prime?
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Everyone always talking about this show or next show worth waiting for. Lol. People said same thing about one that just passed, and basically was a fail. As far as showing anything to beat the prime out. Asus already said it'll be June at the earliest when you will see the TF-700. Once people get that, they will be in for a big surprise. AROUND the same time or afterwards is when the next upgrade to tegra3 chip will be announced, Kal El+, or they might just jump to next one and forget the refresh. Its always about waiting for the next best thing. Of you do then you'll be waiting forever. Lmao
Plus what does this thread have to do with Prime?
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You answered your own question when You started timing about getting the tf700 or the current device...being the prime
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You answered your own question when You started timing about getting the tf700 or the current device...being the prime
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yeah..lmfao. I'm just happy a got a great working Prime from 12/22. I use this thing so much its crazy. I used my Ipad the other day, it didn't even feel right anymore. felt bulky n heavy n alot slower than my prime. can't lie, I am interested to see what the competition will bring.
These combo thingies sound cool until somebody actually tries to use one. To wit the Moto Atrix and the stillborn Palm Foleo.
The Panasonic WiGig demo (Engadget blurb) looks much more versatile and practical. No need for proprietary phone & dock. Xmit module in phone + rcv module in laptop/tablet/TV = 60fps fullHD remote access or dumb display.
Nice concept, but I already have a good Android phone (Galaxy Nexus).
Why would I want one?
As for now, I won't go with Prime ... too much issues ... random built quality ... pogo pins will wear out (not tight) sooner or later ... flawed design ...
TF700 would be much better option, but I need to wait a month or two for real review and teardown, learning from Prime debacles ...
Or probably waiting other brand like Samsung upcoming 11.6" , that is interesting.
Yeah, we can wait and wait and wait ... but at this moment, I won't "force" my-self to accept mediocre/dodgy products.
MWC is just less than 1 month anyway ...
And I can still live my life without tablet! Galaxy Nexus serves me well enough
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Just wondering what people think of the Padfone?
I might be late to this (most probably am), however i Just saw a few reviews about the padfone and now it looks very tempting to wait for it instead of ordering the Prime tomorrow.
I heard they'll be announcing it properly at the MWC...I guess it'll be 2 months after that, so around the tf700 time.
What do people think? Is it a gimmick that wouldn't get used? or something that could have a lot of potential?
Here's a video i saw that caught my eye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=z5aAOKJGBjo
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I agree, this is exactly what I think ! Why would we buy an unfinished product ? I can live with no GPS, but not with a bad WIFI reception. It's so stupid to pay 700€ for a MOBILE device which would not allow me to connect to a WIFI router in hotels/restaurants unless I'm sticked to it ...
A lot of people say "The TF700 solved these problems, let's wait for it", but I only partially agree :
- this is said by Asus, but can we still believe them ? I am not confident anymore in the build quality of Asus. We already had problems with the TF101 and other laptops / netbooks made by Asus.
- Even if the TF700 works very well, the high 1080p resolution will let it work slower than the "normal" 1280x800 TF201 resolution. We still need to know if it will be fast enough for everything and everyone (we all want our tablet to be as fast as possible, right ?)
- Asus will not be the only Tegra 3 maker in the next months : every other brands will sell their own Tegra 3 tablets, beginning in April with Acer (A510). And there will be new comers like HTC and Lenovo (the lenovo tab will have a Tegra 3 running at 1.6 GHZ and 2Go of RAM !).
Asus wanted to be the first one to sell a Tegra 3 tablet, but they did it too fast, now we have to use an unfinished product and use tricks like pinching the back cover to let it work as it should (and still, even with this trick it works better but not really as it should)... Is this serious ???
So I will now wait for other brands "Tegra 3" tablets, I'm done with Asus.
This is my theory...
Kindle Fire sold one million units every week since December. Lets assume that Asus has ONLY sold one million TFP's.
Everyone, even fan-boys, will agree Asus has issues with TFP.
To do a total recall of the TFP's, at $30 a pop, would cost Asus $30 Million.
Based on the XDA polls, somewhere around 70% of the customer base is willing to live with whatever issues the TFP has.
Out of the remaining 30%, a certain portion will never be completely happy and have a bad taste in their mouth regardless of what happens. Not worth trying to satisfy everyone.
Dropping GPS from the specs is a beginning. WTF does "not a professional GPS device" mean anyway? I doubt anyone was planning on using the TFP to climb Mt Everest. Reality is you can't find a local pizza place or geo-code your photos/videos.
For the screen bleed issues, they can clamp down on QC. Which they have apparently done. There are still QC issues, but not like the early adopters had.
After dropping GPS, there remains BT/Wifi hardware issues. At least 70% of their customers will accept weak WiFi and BT issues. For the balance, offer lip-service and OTA firmware updates. Dedicate a person to do damage control, which is a pitance compared to a recall.
For the diehards, who didn't return the TFP and are very vocal, offer exchanges. Even if nothing is fixed. Its still far cheaper than doing a total recall.
Stop selling the defective tablet after supplier contracts run out, and sell the improved tablet.
Just a theory.
Nothing wrong with that. A good theory. Things are going to change for better with prime. Have a good feeling about it. Be ready for .14 update.
The percentage of owners that doesn't accept the FACT that Asus came out with a sub-standard product with little or no QC
This is because many people that didnt like it, just didn't keep it.
Fanboys need to understand that GPS is a promised feature, regardless of what it does. Hell , if they list a snow blower on the box, I should expect to a blow some snow.
Many people, myself included, use tablet navigation for road trips, where their "copilot" plans the route.
*Downplaying the issues just puts all TFP owners at a disadvantage.*
What would you do if the power company cut off power during the day, saying that daylight is enough for your needs, and telling you that it doesn't think you live in a mine?
Bad production and a response that is even worse, IS what keeps my tablet of choice, out of my hands. I'll remain with the iSheep for now
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I take issue with 2 of your points:
1st- The percentage of owners that doesn't accept the FACT that Asus came out with a sub-standard product with little or no QC
This is because many people that didnt like it, just didn't keep it.
2nd- GPS is a promised feature, regardless of what it does. Hell , if they list a snow blower on the box, I should expect to a blow some snow.
Many people, myself included, use tablet navigation for road trips, where their "copilot" planes the route.
*Downplaying the issues just puts you and other TFP owners at a disadvantage.*
What would you do if the power company cut off power during the day, saying that daylight is enough for your needs, and telling you that it doesn't think you live in a mine?
<points to your mountain climbing comment>
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There's one problem with your argument, the purpose of snow blower is to blow slow, but tablets aren't typically used for GPS. I understand that some people do it, but its a relatively small number of people. And let s say the GPS is completely dysfunctional, Asus still managed to stuff a quad core, 1gb ram, gorgeous display into a very thin case, to selling it for 100 dollars cheaper than the competition, including 35 million ipads wifi out there which doesn't even have the GPS chip.
You can say that they are too ambitious trying to integrate the GPS into a metal case device, a task even apple had to give up, but I doubt its ever their intention to include a questionable gps in the prime. So all I'm trying to say is, give they some credit. Obviously if GPS is very important for you, return the prime, and wait for something else.
Asus may have rushed the release of prime, but just think about what would've happened if they didn't : no second generation android tablets before the release the ipad3!!
And GPS is only working in special circumstances. Inhouse is not functional. I use the Quadcore + NinjaCore much more than i would ever use GPS. I watch much more Videos indoor than i'm using my prime outside of my apartment. I read more comics than ever since i have my Prime.
I really doubt that "many people" use their Prime for navigation. Even for this you can use your phone or a external gps device for the signal...
My Prime is RMA atm. Don't believe they will fix GPS but one can hope.
Pic of TF201 in my vehicle. Haven't figured out how to get Velcro to swivel so the passenger can see
i emailed asus saying that if they did not withdraw there threat to end my warenty for trying to fix the issues that can be fixed with custom roms then i would just return it over and over untill they sent me one without problems i suggest every person who own a tfp to do the same IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND WANT ASUS TO DO THE RIGHT THING THEN EMAIL THEM AND THREATEN TO START SENDING UR TRANSFORMER PRIME BACK OVER AND OVER UNTIL THEY GET IT RIGHT
For all of you non believers i got a replacement one without GPS listed on the box with the blue cleaning cloth.. It's c1okas161xxx the GPS even works indoors of course it is weak but it gets a lock indoors with slightly less signal then my evo 3d they appear to have fixed something!
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i emailed asus saying that if they did not withdraw there threat to end my warenty for trying to fix the issues that can be fixed with custom roms then i would just return it over and over untill they sent me one without problems i suggest every person who own a tfp to do the same IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND WANT ASUS TO DO THE RIGHT THING THEN EMAIL THEM AND THREATEN TO START SENDING UR TRANSFORMER PRIME BACK OVER AND OVER UNTIL THEY GET IT RIGHT
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Threatening them won't do anything. If you want to exchange just do it. Adding threats along with it does nothing.
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For all of you non believers i got a replacement one without GPS listed on the box with the blue cleaning cloth.. It's c1okas161xxx the GPS even works indoors of course it is weak but it gets a lock indoors with slightly less signal then my evo 3d they appear to have fixed something!
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I know you learned your lesson now on messing around with system/root files...lmfao. now you got a good one. Don't mess it up
I have never seen Amazon say how many Fire's they have sold.
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I have never seen Amazon say how many Fire's they have sold.
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Its an estimate.
http://www.isuppli.com/Display-Mate...e-Fourth-Quarter-Tablet-Market-Was-Apple.aspx
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The percentage of owners that doesn't accept the FACT that Asus came out with a sub-standard product with little or no QC
This is because many people that didnt like it, just didn't keep it.
Fanboys need to understand that GPS is a promised feature, regardless of what it does. Hell , if they list a snow blower on the box, I should expect to a blow some snow.
Many people, myself included, use tablet navigation for road trips, where their "copilot" plans the route.
*Downplaying the issues just puts all TFP owners at a disadvantage.*
What would you do if the power company cut off power during the day, saying that daylight is enough for your needs, and telling you that it doesn't think you live in a mine?
Bad production and a response that is even worse, IS what keeps my tablet of choice, out of my hands. I'll remain with the iSheep for now
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My device works fine, same for my brother, so I'm not sure about the substandard, as our TF prime met and exceeded some of our expecation.
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Threatening them won't do anything. If you want to exchange just do it. Adding threats along with it does nothing.
I know you learned your lesson now on messing around with system/root files...lmfao. now you got a good one. Don't mess it up
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Unfortunately its not a good one... Their is dust under the screen... And quite a few dead pixels... They should have taken it out of the plastic screen protector when they examined it... But anyways new one should be around the the week of the 27th
I am hoping it will be later so I can decide if I like something better at wmc
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Blue cloth, huh?
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For all of you non believers i got a replacement one without GPS listed on the box with the blue cleaning cloth.. It's c1okas161xxx the GPS even works indoors of course it is weak but it gets a lock indoors with slightly less signal then my evo 3d they appear to have fixed something!
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Strange, all the early reviewer units and video unboxings had that blue cloth. Must have run out of black, LOL! Results are still mixed though, where GPS is concerned. I will be super happy if they ever get it to work, and I have really only that one deficiency/complaint. Mine is a replacement C1OKAS11x, so earlier than yours, but had no GPS at all at first, and still can only get views/occasional locks when outdoors only. Sigh.
What's with the revival of the BLUE CLOTH??? Does it mean BLUE CLOTH=GOOD GPS???
My only question is, is it double the size of the black; we had a post a week ago with the huge, oversized cleaning cloth of goodness, but he never said what the color was.
Let's all return our Primes and demand new ones with Blue Cloths... Start the Petitions, Gt the Facebook BLACK CLOTH HATE CAMPAIGN started! Okay. stopping now.
Same size as the black one...
I know for a fact the prime is made at different places as they have one company box and package the primes they are okas-tech.com they basically handle the whole manufacturing process which means they hire other people to assemble the prime... So maybe they are from different lines
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I figure I have only a few legitimate choices if I'm in the market for a new tablet today:
1. Buy an iPad 2, which has no GPS chip at all.
2. Buy one of the other popular Android-based (but limited) tablets, the Kindle Fire and Nook Color/Tablet, neither of which have GPS chips.
3. Buy a Tegra 2 or other last-gen Android tablet with likely fully functional GPS.
4. Buy the Prime.
#1 isn't an option for me because I simply don't want to buy an Apple product. #2 isn't an option for me because I don't want such a generally limited device. I already have a TF101, so if I were satisfied with #3 I wouldn't have to do a thing. That leaves #4.
Note that my decision here is NOT influenced by the quality (or existence) of a device's GPS functionality. If I were looking to use a tablet as a navigation device, I'd just stick with my TF101. Thing is, I never used GPS on my TF101--not a single time. It was turned off pretty much from day 1.
This is why I think the GPS thing has been way overblown. It's hard to argue that GPS on a 10" tablet is important to the market when the two dominant products--the iPad 2 and the Kindle Fire--don't have GPS chips at all. Clearly, most people don't care about it. I don't see why anyone should assume that the majority of Android tablet purchasers would be different.
As far as wifi and wifi/BT goes, either wifi works for a person or it doesn't. Worrying about how strong wifi is and what range it has is entirely theoretical UNTIL one runs into a situation where it doesn't work. I have a feeling that the vast majority of people who buy a Prime will never run into that theoretical limit and will be perfectly happy with theirs. And when I say "perfectly happy," I mean exactly that--as long as a person doesn't run into that situation where wifi isn't strong enough to function, then they'll be oblivious to any wifi limitations.
Finally, I'm pretty convinced that the wifi/BT thing isn't at all unique to the Prime. I can't surf the Web while streaming music to my Bluetooth headphones on my Epic 4G Touch any better than I can on the Prime. My TF101 is only marginally better at it. So, that doesn't matter to me either.
I suppose this entire post is aimed at people who insist on telling those who are happy with their Primes that they're either lying to themselves, ignorant, or pure fanboys. The other explanation is that they find the positives of the Prime--excellent performance, great size/weight, super-bright screen--to outweigh the negatives that for many people are only theoretical anyways.
All I know is that I can use my Prime outside under the SoCal sun. My TF101 sure can't do that, and I believe no other tablet currently on the market can. So, for me, the GPS that I never used on my TF101 and the under-performing wifi that works perfectly for my needs just don't outweigh what is the most important use-case for me.
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I figure I have only a few legitimate choices if I'm in the market for a new tablet today:
1. Buy an iPad 2, which has no GPS chip at all.
2. Buy one of the other popular Android-based (but limited) tablets, the Kindle Fire and Nook Color/Tablet, neither of which have GPS chips.
3. Buy a Tegra 2 or other last-gen Android tablet with likely fully functional GPS.
4. Buy the Prime.
#1 isn't an option for me because I simply don't want to buy an Apple product. #2 isn't an option for me because I don't want such a generally limited device. I already have a TF101, so if I were satisfied with #3 I wouldn't have to do a thing. That leaves #4.
Note that my decision here is NOT influenced by the quality (or existence) of a device's GPS functionality. If I were looking to use a tablet as a navigation device, I'd just stick with my TF101. Thing is, I never used GPS on my TF101--not a single time. It was turned off pretty much from day 1.
This is why I think the GPS thing has been way overblown. It's hard to argue that GPS on a 10" tablet is important to the market when the two dominant products--the iPad 2 and the Kindle Fire--don't have GPS chips at all. Clearly, most people don't care about it. I don't see why anyone should assume that the majority of Android tablet purchasers would be different.
As far as wifi and wifi/BT goes, either wifi works for a person or it doesn't. Worrying about how strong wifi is and what range it has is entirely theoretical UNTIL one runs into a situation where it doesn't work. I have a feeling that the vast majority of people who buy a Prime will never run into that theoretical limit and will be perfectly happy with theirs. And when I say "perfectly happy," I mean exactly that--as long as a person doesn't run into that situation where wifi isn't strong enough to function, then they'll be oblivious to any wifi limitations.
Finally, I'm pretty convinced that the wifi/BT thing isn't at all unique to the Prime. I can't surf the Web while streaming music to my Bluetooth headphones on my Epic 4G Touch any better than I can on the Prime. My TF101 is only marginally better at it. So, that doesn't matter to me either.
I suppose this entire post is aimed at people who insist on telling those who are happy with their Primes that they're either lying to themselves, ignorant, or pure fanboys. The other explanation is that they find the positives of the Prime--excellent performance, great size/weight, super-bright screen--to outweigh the negatives that for many people are only theoretical anyways.
All I know is that I can use my Prime outside under the SoCal sun. My TF101 sure can't do that, and I believe no other tablet currently on the market can. So, for me, the GPS that I never used on my TF101 and the under-performing wifi that works perfectly for my needs just don't outweigh what is the most important use-case for me.
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acidus. said:
Kindle Fire sold one million units every week since December. Lets assume that Asus has ONLY sold one million TFP's.
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Asus' exposure is far less than "1MM." They sold next to none is December as their tablet sales were down 24% in Q4. In an interview, Jonney Shih said he hopes to "sell 1MM Prime's." So with initial demand of any new device being high, at most I'd guess they've sold (not built) about 200-250K.
wynand32 said:
I figure I have only a few legitimate choices if I'm in the market for a new tablet today:
1. Buy an iPad 2, which has no GPS chip at all.
2. Buy one of the other popular Android-based (but limited) tablets, the Kindle Fire and Nook Color/Tablet, neither of which have GPS chips.
3. Buy a Tegra 2 or other last-gen Android tablet with likely fully functional GPS.
4. Buy the Prime.
#1 isn't an option for me because I simply don't want to buy an Apple product. #2 isn't an option for me because I don't want such a generally limited device. I already have a TF101, so if I were satisfied with #3 I wouldn't have to do a thing. That leaves #4.
Note that my decision here is NOT influenced by the quality (or existence) of a device's GPS functionality. If I were looking to use a tablet as a navigation device, I'd just stick with my TF101. Thing is, I never used GPS on my TF101--not a single time. It was turned off pretty much from day 1.
This is why I think the GPS thing has been way overblown. It's hard to argue that GPS on a 10" tablet is important to the market when the two dominant products--the iPad 2 and the Kindle Fire--don't have GPS chips at all. Clearly, most people don't care about it. I don't see why anyone should assume that the majority of Android tablet purchasers would be different.
As far as wifi and wifi/BT goes, either wifi works for a person or it doesn't. Worrying about how strong wifi is and what range it has is entirely theoretical UNTIL one runs into a situation where it doesn't work. I have a feeling that the vast majority of people who buy a Prime will never run into that theoretical limit and will be perfectly happy with theirs. And when I say "perfectly happy," I mean exactly that--as long as a person doesn't run into that situation where wifi isn't strong enough to function, then they'll be oblivious to any wifi limitations.
Finally, I'm pretty convinced that the wifi/BT thing isn't at all unique to the Prime. I can't surf the Web while streaming music to my Bluetooth headphones on my Epic 4G Touch any better than I can on the Prime. My TF101 is only marginally better at it. So, that doesn't matter to me either.
I suppose this entire post is aimed at people who insist on telling those who are happy with their Primes that they're either lying to themselves, ignorant, or pure fanboys. The other explanation is that they find the positives of the Prime--excellent performance, great size/weight, super-bright screen--to outweigh the negatives that for many people are only theoretical anyways.
All I know is that I can use my Prime outside under the SoCal sun. My TF101 sure can't do that, and I believe no other tablet currently on the market can. So, for me, the GPS that I never used on my TF101 and the under-performing wifi that works perfectly for my needs just don't outweigh what is the most important use-case for me.
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Very well put.
I have to say, i really dont mind if the TFP doesnt get all too popular^^ All the people I know and showed the prime to are totally blown away by it. I also heard one that said its very similar to the ipad but looks just a bit more "noble".
So i really dont mind if this sexy thing is staying something special. I usually dont care about what the masses think "what's best because i have some very distinct demands to an IT device and the prime is just doing all i need. For example a retina display with insanly high resolution? I dont need that at all. Without glasses on i probably dont even see the difference But the ability to write this post with an full keyboard? The ability to play psx emulator with a real gamepad? And so on and on
So i'm gonna have the perfect device for my needs, and its even gonna stay something very special. I mean everyone has mobile apple devices now, they're as mainstream as it gets...
All i hope for now is some custom development going on when the bootloader gets unlocked and i will be in IT heaven
cheers mates. Hope this wasnt completely off topic
Hi everyone,
I in the market looking for a tablet. I'm new in this business of the tablet world but been searching a lot for the best experience. I'm a heavy computer user (personal and professionally) and past experiences thought me that if you want something good you got to pay!
Not a fan of iPad because of several limitations like iTunes sync, no USB, no expansability like microSD. I think it makes it putting files in or out very tiring...
With that in mind, I really enjoyed the Transformer series idea, and prime (in comparison with tf101) really looks and have the horsepower of an high-end product.
But I'm really worried about giving 600€ (or pounds or dollars) for a product with poor wi-fi performance, GPS I don't care much, but wifi is the main connectivity tech nowadays. Is it really a deal breaker? Are there different series (like groups of SN's) in stores, some worse than others?
But mainly, are these "problems" gonna be solved by the next products like the tf700 (Infinity) or the tf300? And are they worth the wait to see?
thnks
The upcoming Transformers are supposed to fix all these issues so I'd recommend waiting for the 700T if you're patient enough.
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The upcoming Transformers are supposed to fix all these issues so I'd recommend waiting for the 700T if you're patient enough.
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^ This or wait for the supposed killer Samsung flagship tab (Galaxy Tab 11.6), with its Dual Core Cortex A15's and a gorgeous 2650x1600 Display it will match if not out shine the new iPad's but then again its pure speculation.
transformer prime is worth getting now. only small numbers suffered from weak wifi. my wifi works great and had my device since 12/22. only took me 1 purchase to get a good unit
there will ALWAYS be something better coming out in the upcoming months. The prime was a huge leap (IMO) from all the other tablets out there, so I got it. For what I use it for it's ran everything with no issues at all, 1080p Movies, Interwebs, Apps, Games, ect. The only thing i've seen it have any issues with is Go Launcher, but thats really not a big deal. ...
I would recommend anyone get this, unless they just want to wait a few months and get the next latest and greatest, but like I said there will always be something better coming out.
If you are going to wait for the next tablet to be released you are never going to get one hehe. There is a new "killer tablet " being released every month or 2.
Just get the one that best fits your needs now.
My Transformer P. Works wonders, is indeed fast... got today 50mbit down 20 up at college.
GPS is not the best one i have used, but i do get locks and it does works.
I know that there will be always something better coming out, I just read in here so many people returning their devices that I got the feeling that I'm buying a malfunctioning device.
I also haven't decided on wanting a tablet with or without 3G (since I already have Internet on my phone samsung nexus S, in which I can tether or something). But thats another discussion...
I'm happy with mine, which I bought last month. I haven't had any problems at all with wifi. I don't need GPS, so I haven't even bothered to test it.
I was a little bummed to find out afterwards that a new model with a higher-res screen was coming out later, the T700, but since I've been able to get so much more done with this device than the iPad, stuff like actually writing papers on the go, I actually don't mind. If you want something primarily as an ebook reader, you might want to hold out for the devices with a better screen or just buy the new iPad.
I would wait til the next best thing unless u need a tablet now then tp in my option the best tablet on the market now
I don't know about the waiting because, I don't need it now as I will probably never REALLY need it.
It would be fun and handy to have and use as a on-the-go bases or weekend trips or play some video in the tv. I actually think It can replace partially my laptop, especially with the myCloud desktop thing.
well it sounds like you about to purchase a transformer prime then seems to fit all your needs. for the record its not a malfunctioning unit. very small number of users here returned it for good.
remember, nothing is as good as it seems and nothing is as bad as it seems. Somewhere in between Reality falls. So in saying that, stop waiting and go get you this great device you gonna love it and be like you don't even know why you worried so much about it. I do commend you doing your research on the product first. I'm sure you'll make the best decision that fits your needs. plus if you have phone with tethering, don't waste extra money on a 3g unit. it costs alot more for device itself plus you have to add a data plan. tethering is more then good enough. my tethering is fast and good enough to play games online with no issues or slowdowns.
I'm potentially getting a used one today to replace my iPad. I'm moving from the apple ecosystem to android. Had an android phone now for a while and would rather have a tablet as well versus incomplete syncing of the two.
I last had an android tab in January and the app scene was very bad for tablets, and I read the prime had a lot of issues.
Did either resolve?
I'm getting it cheap, so I don't mind the infinity coming out and may switch to it later. But want to get a head start on moving my extensive ecosystem to google
As a Prime owner, my advice is to stay far away from anything Asus. It's becoming clear to me they can't fix the issues in this device. I wish I never bought mine.
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Wow... Sadly I don't know an alternative non-7 inch android tablet...
I feel your pain, as I'm also interested in a 10" tablet with plenty of storage, and there are no great options at this point. I'm just trying to give you a heads up. Between the slow ass I/O issues that they obviously can't fix, the firmware releases that keep fixing one thing and breaking 3 others, the cheap parts used (search the forum for LCD mura), the poor design choices (good luck connecting to a far away Wifi signal), and the terrible support (read some of the horrible RMA stories here), I wouldn't touch another Asus product with a 10 foot pole.
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maybe the best will be to wait a lil bit more and see the TF700. But in any case, I really don't see the point of buying the Tf201 right now, with the 300 offering a very similar experience (imho there some quite recognisable slow downs overally speaking but it's still close enough for the price difference) for a cheaper price, and the Tf700 to be shipped in the following weeks. For those proficient in french, here is a test of the device
http://www.lesnumeriques.com/tablet...pad-infinity-tf700-avec-dock-p13514/test.html
and as far as the wifi goes, it's as smooth and stable as the 300 (if not better). So no matter how many software updates Asus is going to throw at us, it is highly unlikely that our beloved prime Tf201 (yes I still love the tablet even though it pisses me bigtime to have such a mediocre wifi connectivity) going to achieve that performance.
I would look into Samsung if i could do it again or Acer Iconia as a close second.
I would go for it! I am having a wonderful experience with my Prime. It's by far the best Imo. Forums are ruled by people seeking answers to there issues either caused by themselves tinkering with the device or just real issues. Most are quite happy. You should check out the Positive Transformer Prime thread linked to my sig. Then decide for yourself.
I have two primes and one 300. I like them all. My unlocked prime with wookie ROM is the best. It is faster than my laptop. Why not buy a prime if your getting it for a good price?
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I would go for it! I am having a wonderful experience with my Prime. It's by far the best Imo. Forums are ruled by people seeking answers to there issues either caused by themselves tinkering with the device or just real issues. Most are quite happy. You should check out the Positive Transformer Prime thread linked to my sig. Then decide for yourself.
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I generally agree with jj here.. I love my Prime. Yes, there's a few little quirks here and there, but nothing as world ending as some people would have you believe. Compared to the other devices on the market, I'd still go with this one if I had to again.
(Now, if a Nexus 10 comes out.. mmm.. bets might be off
As it is with anything on the internet... the 5% that have problems make up the 95% majority who scream the loudest.
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As it is with anything on the internet... the 5% that have problems make up the 95% majority who scream the loudest.
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That and I just can't see anyone (in their right mind) that would post positive "complaints" on a developer/troubleshooting forum...
My $.02: I have it, it's OK. I would not buy one again. Basically when you buy a Prime keep in mind that you're buying an "almost ready for beta" product.
Bottom line: if you don't mind beta testing for ASUS (yes, 8 months later and we're still beta testing) then go for it!
If you're getting it for $300 or under then do it. Otherwise go for a Galaxy Tab.
Go for it! been loving mines since I got it in dec. not everyone has issues. jjdevega summed it up best.
I think you have to accept the mindset that you are going to have to tweak your Prime to get everything just right. Coming from an iPad this will be a different experience.
Personally I have experienced all the issues mentioned above on my Prime. I even RMA'd and refunded my 1st unit. However, I have been having a lot of fun applying the different tweaks and experimenting with what works best for my individual use case. I can tell you that my Prime is absolutely BLAZING right now - it is completely stable and performance is beyond my expectations.
I was pessimistic for a long time, but now I know I prefer having the options (because of an amazing developer community) to tinker and modify.
If this is appealing to you, the Prime is a great choice.
well , i think i have been top complainer on the prime. However i love this tablet.
its not perfect yet but i trust in asus that they start working on it now the google tablet is done.
some weeks ago i was really pessimistic but developers like wookie, motley baboo, ckhtml and more, and demandarin for his help with submitting issues, gave back hope.
and tbh, asus support has been great since tf101 however something went realy wrong with ICS on both devices , cant ignore that.
conclusion: for a good price i would buy it. buy with s/n c4 or higher.
keep calm and see what asus is offering in the future. their new devices is still kinda like in beta mode, endless problems waiting to be fixed. im not even sure nexus 7 is safe to use. best is hold ur horses and see what others review abt it.
the TF700T is supposed to come out next month at $499, which is what the prime sells for new right now. so I would keep this in mind when buying a used prime...
I have had my Prime since December and it has been fine. However right now I would recommend waiting until Mid-July and buying the TF Infinity. It will start at the same base price ($500) has a better screen and a plastic panel that should fix any wifi/gps problems people have had with the Prime. Plus it is compatible with practically all TF-Prime accessories including the keyboard dock.
Right now that is likely to be the best choice for a 10" Android tablet.
good read
If money isn't an concern, I would get a prime.
I as well moved from the IPAD. It's great for what I use it for, however my wife uses it as well.
I wanted her to have her own and so I started the search for another tablet that would suit the needs I have.
After roughly three months of research it came down to two things.
Either buying a Transformer Prime or TF300. Or waiting for the TF700 to hit in July.
Personally I've seen hi-res screens, unless your a graphics designer and your going to do EXTREME graphics rendering and modeling
(which at that point you should be using a PC or MAC desktop - my thoughts that is. )
then getting the Prime is the way to go. I got mine a few days ago, and it's done everything my IPad can do + some, no issues with Wifi - havent tested the GPS because I don't need it for that.
I've used several SD cards and again no issues what so ever.
The ONLY thing I will say in making your decision, is always get the bigger storage size, I have the 64gb and It's EXACTLY what I want / need!
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As a Prime owner, my advice is to stay far away from anything Asus. It's becoming clear to me they can't fix the issues in this device. I wish I never bought mine.
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i second this... i have had it with Asus. i was one of the first one to get Prime cause i love android. but Asus's ability to integrate the software is driving me crazy. and not to mention how they handled GPS issue... me personally are jumping ship back to ipad..... at least i won't get ANR everything 10mins.....
I'm also happy with the prime so far. My only concern about is that after months of daily using I really see a big advantage in the 7 inch form factor in many use cases. There was a great video interview with Matias Duarte on the verge about the design of the nexus 7 tablet two days ago or so and it nailed it on the head. So my next tablet will be the Nexus one, but I'll keep the prime as well.
So TFP was supposed to be the best Android tablet when it came out (now it's TFP 700). It was not a terrible product by any means but it did fall short of expectations.
It's broken GPS, sketchy wifi, horrible web browser (if not rooted) and low read/write speeds making everything slower compared to the cheapest android tablet out there. But besides all that it works and works pretty well.
Now that I've experienced the best of Android, I can't spend any money on it again for a similar experience.
I think I'll try MS Surface when it comes out. If nothing else at least the web browsing won't be as terrible as on TFP.
I think I take Google Nexus 7 and if Google provide 10 Inc Tablet I take it. Asus good company, but they support very poor. If Flagship like Prime doesn't work properly (but I very like this Tab, I use Prime every day, and Tablet very good) I think Asus not interesting to support they devices, they only interesting to sell. If they provide very good firmware with all new features, like Android 4,1 ,like kernel 3,1+ and other, and this firmware work grate and long battary live, I change my mind and take next Tablet from Asus and tell my Friend that this good deal and if they have Tablet they need Asus
If I could get my money back for my prime, I'd probably get the Nexus 7. Or just upgrade my phone
When I bought the prime a month ago (c4) I was aware of a lot of it shortcommings.
For me the prime works fine within its limitations. So my clear statement. I will stick with my prime at least
till next summer.
Then I will look may be a sufface pro or an ultrabook with touchscreen or even if Win 8 fails for me a new Win 7 ultrabook.
And I hear a lot of people think same.
The real looser are the current untrabook and notebook producer. Same like me a lot of ppl simple wait.
So again I stuck with the prime and I stuck with my 4 years old Dell notebook.
Absolutely not. The prime took form over function to a degree where it proved to be near useless on my trip- the reason I bought it. ASUS will not get another dime from me.
I have given up on Asus. I was hoping HTC would make the Nexus tablet. I have had great success with HTC Phones. This TFP was junk. From random reboots, sleep of death, horrible gps, and don't get me started on the WiFi! I like Samsung but their GPS is just as bad. I will pass on the Nexus 7.
I already pre-ordered the Nexus 7. Here is to hoping that with the support of Google, that Asus and Nvidia can get this one right!!
Why could we need a new tablet ?
I mean, here we all have a Tegra3 based - Super IPS panel - Aluminium ...
Alright, the GPS isn't so good (however not too bad) and ICS is a bit rough but I don't think that today there is any other tablet able to overcome ou TFP : TF700 simply has a 1080p panel and the nexus 7 has Jellybean (which will come soon at our TFP and probably fix somes issues).
I don't believe that there is any competitor for us, who just bought a 600 €/$ tablet 6 month ago ....
Thanks to one broken mainboard and the still remaining problems with screen flickering and the bootloader unlocker I am pretty sure, that ASUS will never ever get money from me again
A tablet for that much money and the screen is flickering and I cant unlock it? Due to this + bad WIFI and unusable GPS (which I would have accepted) this tablet is the worst investment in hardware I did in the past few years...
I just wanted a great gadget, now I cant even play with it, due to the locked bootloader that is not unlockable for me and many others
Asus is crap. I will never buy one of their products ever again, and will be sure to spread this opinion to all friends and family who ask me for tech advice.
Love my Prime, but will not be buying another ASUS product either.
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Love my Prime, but will not be buying another ASUS product either.
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I am with you on that one.
LOL...a lot of people bought their Primes as a POSSIBLE replacement to a laptop.
My Alienware M18 has replaced my Prime, and I think I will go with a M11 Alienware to replace my Prime.
BUT, even a 4k laptop is not without its problems. AMD has yet to provide a proper driver for dual 7970m GPU's......:crying:
So you know what Asus is probably on par with other manufactures, always caught up in the hardware/specs race and not fully ready to release a product.
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You know what, yeah i still do love my Prime, I know its flakey, but its great to sit on the couch and struggle trying to browse the internet. Plus its great on the crapper.
Crazy how things work though, my GS3 is now more powerful than my Prime...Geez it's only been 6 months
I run a business from my TFP. It's my baby. I think asus has been very accommodating. I can think of no other company that rolls out this manyupdates.
Regarding the problems, I think people exaggerate. Let's look at each one.
Browser issue. I've never really had any problem with my browser. But if I did, I have dozens of alternatives on the play store.
Dodgy wifi. There are 3 primes within my arms' reach. There's a c3, c4, and c5. I'm sorry, but I haven't seen any problem with the wifi.
Screen flickering. Again, I haven't seen any of that.
GPS. Ok, so only 1 out of the 3 primes I mentioned have working gps. But so what? Honestly, how many people use their prime as a gps device to navigate around? I'm the only person I've ever heard of to use a tablet as a gps navigation device. Also, don't you have a smart phone with a gps? Why not bluetooth it to your prime to navigate if you need to do it that bad?
I'm not saying I don't believe people are having these issues. I just don't believe these issues are that widespread. In my business, I can tell you that people seem to have 2 universal characteristics when it comes to their tech stuff. (1) People almost always blame someone/something else rather than themselves, and (2) people tend to exaggerate the problem.
For example, there was a guy that needed to send his tablet to me to fix. He swore up and down that it just stopped turning on and that it was asus's design flaw. When I received it in the mail, it was VERY VERY obvious to me that he had dropped it and the power button was depressed and out of alignment with the inner button. There was also another guy who crammed TWO micro-sd cards into the micro sdcard slot and ruined both his cards and the slot. He also swore up and down to me that it was asus's design flaw. Then there was the water damage case that, again, the owner swore up and down his prime was never anywhere near water. There was also a guy who totally screwed up his own PC but was too embarrassed to tell me about it. After I drilled him a bit, he finally admitted that he had one of those viruses that told him it was harmless and that all he needed to do was remove certain files from his system folder to get rid of it. The idiot actually went through and deleted his systems files.
The exaggerating cases are just as bad. Look, when you call someone up for tech support or help, you need to be precise. That's how we help you! I've had people give me end-of-the-world scenarios with their computers only to turn out that they accidentally physically switched off their wifi switch.
I am not an asus apologist. I think asus has a lot of improvements to make. That said, if you think another tablet manufacturer can do a better job, please by all means switch. After having owned a multitude of tablet devices and years of testing out various boards from many manufacturers, I'm sticking with asus's tablets. I will try to get myself an infinity when it's available.
It's my experience that online reviews don't paint a real picture of things. People tend to stay quiet when everything is fine and only write a review when they found something wrong. This phenomenon gives the false impression that most of whatever it is are defective.
Then there are the ones who want to screw over a business just because they can. I sent out an item via ups some time ago. It was suppose to arrive on the 19th via tracking but ups had a delay and it was delivered on the 21st. The customer wrote me an email blasting me for ups's delay. Very nasty email, actually. He even hinted that if I gave him a partial refund he wouldn't give me a negative review. Annoyed, I replied thanking him for assuming I had complete control over how ups operates. Well, you guessed it, I got that negative review. In the review, he said he received the item very very very very late and that I was rude and packaged the item very poorly (even though I wrapped it in two layers of bubble wraps). There's that exaggeration with reviews again.
So, yeah, guys, go ahead and switch to a different company if that makes you feel better. Just my 2 cents.
already pre-ordered a nexus 7. I might see what win 8 tablets talking about. but after nexus 7, ill be satisfied until tegra4 tablets release.
p.s. I LOVE THE PRIME!
I have an ASUS TF700t and keyboard on pre-order, and will be selling my good working Prime with its keyboard on eBay as soon as the new one comes in. That's what I did with my original Transformer and my current Prime. I expect that at the end of the year there will be some real Windows 8 tablets, such as the Microsoft Surface RT. I expect to "upgrade" to one of those in a similar manner. Great fun!
Bye.
It will be a Samsung tablet that's for sure, not only do Samsung's Exynos SoCs consistently perform as on of the best SoCs on the market but Samsung's latest Android devices have been nothing but stellar.
The Prime was my first experience of Asus and it's definitely going to be last, in my opinion; Asus have absolutely shocking quality testing. Whilst people can post that they don't have any problems; for every one who doesn't have an issue, 100's do. The fact that Asus did not comprehend the impact of a full metal design on the WiFi and GPS performance speaks volumes about their pre-release testing.
I'm not an unreasonable person, I actually didn't care much for GPS on a tablet and hence why I've not been vocal about it, so I'm not complaining for the sake of it. However, since .21, I've always had pathetic browser performance, screen glitching where the status bar jumps up and down and sleep of deaths whilst docked. .28 comes along and fixes none of those issues but throws screen tearing on the left side of the screen into the mix, you can imagine how much that would annoy a consumer.
I'm happy to use applications off the market to make the experience better, for example I use thumb keyboard because Asus' stock keyboard is nothing but an embarrassment. I mean, why release a 10.1" tablet with a soft keyboard that doesn't have the option to split the keyboard in landscape orientation? You can't reach the keys in the middle of the screen, it's basic ergonomics and something I learnt in school when I was 16 and that's why it's embarrassing. Yet there's certain applications where I'm not willing to compromise as the loss of features are too great.
For example, the stock browser supports flash and direct syncing with my Google account. Nothing else does this as Chrome doesn't support flash. Another great example of how disorganised and unprofessional Asus are, is the whole GPS dongle shipping process. Not only are Asus incompetent to mess up GPS in the first place, they're stupid enough to mess up their attempt to resolve the issue.
For me it comes down to a simple question, am I happy with the £500 I spent on the Prime? The answer is no, as I could have bought a tablet that's £200 cheaper with a Tegra3 chip in that doesn't have the issues the Prime does. Would you put up with a TV unit that had screen tear down the side, with absolutely no acknowledgement from the manufacturer as to when it's going to get fixed?
Will certainly buy the nexus 7 as soon as it will be available around here. Don't know if i'll go for the infinity 700, since i lovethe prime except for its weak wifi speed on long range. I think i'll prefer to see what the windows8 tablets will be worth before going for a replacement for the prime of there ever will be one.
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No way with ASUS, they are not getting another dime. And for that matter unless it surpasses the iPad in terms of smoothness and UI performance, I ain't getting another Android tablet, they are just not mature enough (phones are a different story, I will stick with Android phones).
Keeping my Transformer Prime TF201, adding a Nexus 7. If you NEVER buy stuff from any maker you get a bad device with in the end you will have nothing to buy.
I mean for a tablet you have who Asus and Samsung as top players, anyone else?
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So, yeah, guys, go ahead and switch to a different company if that makes you feel better. Just my 2 cents.
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You can bet I will. I own several Moto products, an HTC and a Samsung. The 201 I wanted seeing how good the form factor was and hearing about quad-core power. After what I've been through with mine, the issues with the tablet and the company and trying to get a hold of someone competent enough to get a GPS dongle shipped to me, I'll never spend money on anything Asus again. I haven't had any of these issues with the other companies products, but this is just my personal experience with the devices I have purchased.
While I'm not saying there aren't people satisfied with their 201's you obviously are, for me I definitely didn't get what I spent $500+ on. I would probably have a more positive view of the company had I waited for the N7 and saved myself 400 or so plus the hardware and software problems over my 201 and dock but at least I learned the lesson I'll never spend that much again on an Asus tab.