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I just picked up my gtablet yesterday and have been spending my time installing tnt lite and installing several apps. I bought it because when I go on trips I wanted something that could browse the net, and play videos. I installed RockPlayer and put a 720p mkv file onto the machine, however playback is very choppy and its almost like the device cannot handle it. I know that several people have gotten 1080p to work good, and I am wondering if there is a setting that needs to be enabled to make 720p work better? I did some digging and saw that someone said to edit a line in the build.prop file (set the media.stagefright.enable from true to false), but I cannot edit my build.prop file. And I am not entirely sure that this will fix the problem. Are 720p videos playable on this machine?
What profile did you render the movies in? Try changing the MKV extension to AVI... Sometimes some renderers treat containers differently even though they are using the same codecs.
just tried to rename the extension from .mkv to .avi and still same choppiness and eventually the videos stops playing all together. I am not sure what rendering is, but the file is encoded AAC 2.0 H264
h264 is not the issue, it's what profile its encoded in
I have this in my FAQ section (in my sig). h264 is supported, but the Tegra 2 cannot handle h264 encoded in high profile. It can handle main profile.
This is confusing to people. So, what I would recommend is to download the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and it will show you how your videos are encoded.
As for container support, I think MP4 plays a little better than MKV, but Rockplayer (in the Market) seems to be able to handle MKV and using hardware acceleration. Again, as long as it's h264 main profile.
This is not just an issue with the GTab - all the Tegra 2 devices will have this issue as its a limitation of the chipset, or so I've read. Vega, Folio, even the mysterious Adam will probably have this same limitation.
Reference on h264 and main / high profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Yeah, that's the tricky part. I haven't been able to figure that out yet, although granted I haven't put much time into it. I think these "profiles" depend on how you encode and which tool you use.
If you try the Tron Legacy trailers, they are 1080p but main profile. A good example of how nice videos can look on it, when encoded the right way.
I have to play around more with something like ffmpeg to see if I can pin this down. Another reason for transcoding is to keep the sizes down, since we have the 4GB FAT32 file size limitation to deal with. Yuk.
I've incoded a 1080p high profile to main. sound was in and out then tryed a few things and lost sound. Video played great anyways.
I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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Could be a lower screen resolution that full 720p (not all 720p's are alike).
I also read today that Tegra 2 720p should work in high profile, but 1080p definitely does not. But, Android itself might be limiting even 720p, so it's a crap shoot.
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
Ok, makes sense. I do the same thing using upnplay and my server. Thought you were wanting them on the tablet.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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A two hour 720p movie runs ~4GB, so it's close to the limit in FAT32. And you could easily go over the limit when encoding, which would require you to break the file up. Annoying.
The problem here is that none of the vendors want to agree on a replacement file system for portable devices (wow, no surprise there). MS wants exFAT, the open source community would prefer EXT3/4, and I assume Apple would prefer HFS+.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Okay I'm doing the Madagascar penguin "you didn't see anything gesture" now. LOL.
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japhule said:
It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
G Tab supports H.264 1080p main and high profiles
Detailed specs on what Audio and Video formats G Tablet supports are listed in the manual downloadable from the Viewsonic web site.
But in a few words - it does support up to 1080p, both baseline, high, and main profiles for H.264 with certain limitations for each, and MPEG4 simple profile.
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
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My entire system is redundant. I have my windows 7 share as well as my htpc/nas running tversity, orb and audiogalaxy (music only). Everything is shared in every way. First I try just streaming the file through Windows 7 dlna, which generally works fine. I too use Upnplay. If something doesn't work (very rare) I move to looking for it through Tversity which attempts to detect the dlna device and scale it so it works. I've never needed to use Orb on the GTab since I really got everything up and running, Orb is for when I actually am on the road and want to watch sth. from my home network. PlayOn may actually work as well - it has a free mode which allows you to use it to share files on the local network using VLC codecs.
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I'd like to add to this conversation with, I hope, clarification of how to get higher definition video playback working on the GTab.
I've tried four video files that are 720P or 1080P. None of them works well in Movies, DoubleTwist, Rockplayer, or VitalPlayer.
G Tablet, TnT 4.21, OE kernel. Market fix. Various apps.
Videos all playing from /SDCARD
Here is some more information about those videos, using Mediainfo:
Touring Car race:
720P MPEG-4 50FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 3 ref frames)
AAC Stereo
Big Buck Bunny:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/
1080P OpenDML AVI 12Mbps 24FPS MPEG-4 Visual ([email protected])
AC-3 audio
Audi R8:
720P AVC Matroska 800Kbps 29.970FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 2 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Donington LG demo:
1080P BDAV M2TS 35.5Mbps 29.970fps AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC /3 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Are all of these simply too much for me to get away with playing on the GTab? I've played most, if not all of these, using a Broadcom 70012 Crystal HD decoder card on a Dell Mini 9 (Atom N270) with few problems.
Thanks for the help.
As far as I have understood the Archos 70 (on FAT32) should not be able to play videos larger than 4GB, because that is the limitation of FAT32.
But my Archos does not play files larger than 2GB. I ripped and converted a few dvd's with DVDFab to mp4's and as soon as the resulting file is >2GB (by setting a higher bitrate) I get an error message saying that the file is incomplete or damaged.
Am I overlooking something (I am a newbie) or is something wrong with my Archos ?
Which player are you using? Have you tried moboplayer?
I am using the default video player. Haven't tried another player yet but will do that. First I will make a larger file again to try it out.
This to me sounds more like an .avi limit on fat32 file system - are they avi container ?, if so you need to remux them to something else, .mkv probably best
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This to me sounds more like an .avi limit on fat32 file system - are they avi container ?, if so you need to remux them to something else, .mkv probably best
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I set DVDfab to "DVD Ripper to MP4".
When I open the file with MediaInfo it says "MPEG-4 (Base Media)" as container, so not avi. Or is this the same as avi ?
Update: Although I still would like to hear your reply to my above question (for better understanding), I think it has indeed to do with the container. I ripped and converted again with DVDFab but this time to MKV (not remuxing but ripping and converting again), and now I can play a file larger than 2 GB (in fact the file was around 2,5GB).
Hi guys, was just wondering if anyone had any issues playing videos (of any type) to play properly on their tab and if so if they have found a way to fix it..?
Recently bought a tab 10.1, and no matter what file type I upload - avi, mkv, xvid, divx, mp4, m4v etc none will play without pixelation on playback.
I've converted with 5 different converters, played using moboplayer, vplayer, rockplayer, diceplayer and mxplayer.
Youtube playback is fine, I'm going to try streaming tonight see if that's fine.
Don't really know what else to do. So any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated!
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Hi guys, was just wondering if anyone had any issues playing videos (of any type) to play properly on their tab and if so if they have found a way to fix it..?
Recently bought a tab 10.1, and no matter what file type I upload - avi, mkv, xvid, divx, mp4, m4v etc none will play without pixelation on playback.
I've converted with 5 different converters, played using moboplayer, vplayer, rockplayer, diceplayer and mxplayer.
Youtube playback is fine, I'm going to try streaming tonight see if that's fine.
Don't really know what else to do. So any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated!
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What quality of vids are you playing? 720p should be fine with those player especially mobo and dice
I'm not playing HD quality. Most of my video files are normal quality avi's. Really I'd really like it to just play them but it won't play them without the pixelation.
K well I tried streaming a video from my MacBook Pro to my tab via wifi and it works perfectly...
Thoughts anyone?
How are you transferring the files onto your tab? I have a MAc book pro also and the only way I was able to transfer quickly was via the USB adaptor...
I'm using Diceplayer and have encountered no issues with play back and most of my files are downloads and avi, mkv etc. I just plug and play, no converting or anythign and not encountered any pixilation or play back issues.
Seems what works for some doesn't work for others...but if streaming worked for you, try the adaptor for getting your video's onto the tab.
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How are you transferring the files onto your tab? I have a MAc book pro also and the only way I was able to transfer quickly was via the USB adaptor...
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I'm using Kies, and that seems to transfer at a reasonable rate. Not too painfully slow.
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I'm using Kies, and that seems to transfer at a reasonable rate. Not too painfully slow.
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Have u tried transfer it manually using usb data cable from pc to tab?
i'm not suprised you're getting pixalation issues if you're trying to transfer using Kies. I found it an absolute joke but then again I am using a MAC.
Just suck it up and buy the USB adaptor...and transfer files via a USB stick or use WIFI explorer
Ya, Kies is as absolute joke on Mac.
Didn't think that it was the program that was causing my problems. I searched and searched for days and converted god knows how many types of files when all along it the useless program.
I just transferred some files via the hubby's PC through File Explorer and it's now playing perfectly.
Total fail of a program. Can't update firmware on Mac, can't upload files, it can't even update itself.
Cheers for all the help guys.
Why not instead of the USB cable, download SwiFTP and setup an FTP server on the tab? Then just FTP files to it using FileZilla on the PC or something?
Hi XDA community
In what format should I convert videos for the Asus Transformer Prime, for a good quality.............
I have a movie (1.25 GB avi.) -> (. 3.12 GB MP4) format.
Used program =
- Xilisoft Video Converter Ultimate
- Profil Motorola Xoom / H.264 Video
- 1280x720
[Q]
- Is this normal (1.87 GB more)?
- Are there any conversion settings for the Prime (size, format, etc.)?
- Which program would you recommend?
Thank you for your help
You don't convert. The prime eat anything as long as you use a third party player like mxplayer.
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You don't convert. The prime eat anything as long as you use a third party player like mxplayer.
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Yup. This is one of the things that makes me happiest about moving from my iPad to an Android tablet.
You don't need to convert anything. You can play avi, mkv, wmv with a third party app.
I heard that Dice player is good. In my phone I used Mobo player or Mxvideo player.
thanks all
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The conversion I'd like to understand is .wtv to playable on Android.
We've got quite a few computers in this household running Windows Media Center. They record OTA HD TV on a house server in .wtv (MSFT proprietary) format. But none of the players I've tried play .wtv out of box, yet.
And when the Win 8 slates appear, they WILL interoperate with .wtv and be harder to dislodge. So this would be a good time to source .wtv format files in a DLNA scheme.
I'm having issues playing WMV or M4V from BluRay digital copies.
Is there something that will play these types of files? MX Player does not work.
I don't have a wmv or m4v file at hand but you could try dice player. It's my favorite so far.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.inisoft.mediaplayer.trial
in the specs it states that it can run wmv and m4v
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I'm having issues playing WMV or M4V from BluRay digital copies.
Is there something that will play these types of files? MX Player does not work.
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dude don't mess with that drm garbage. Even if it would work don't reward bad behavior (drm). My mom now hates drm because she mistakenly bought a couple movies on iTunes and now her reward for not bittorrenting it is they're now worthless to her in her tf101 (or any Android device). Just use tpb for what you need. Besides they can recommpress or remove drm in the time it takes you to poop. They're pros
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I'm having issues playing WMV or M4V from BluRay digital copies.
Is there something that will play these types of files? MX Player does not work.
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These are heavily DRMed. If you did not get a Digital Copy version that is compatible with Android then you are screwed. The WMV is a heavily DRMed Windows file, and the M4V is for iTunes. Only a few BluRays were released that had an Android version too.
Honestly, if you have a BluRay player in your PC is easier to rip it to another format. Otherwise, you have to breach the DRM and convert it to a non-DRM version.
I hate the digital copy stuff, but the Ultraviolet stuff is kinda neat. At least you can use the Flixster (Movies) app to view them streaming on Android. However, only a few use it and its still a DRM nightmare.
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dude don't mess with that drm garbage. Even if it would work don't reward bad behavior (drm). My mom now hates drm because she mistakenly bought a couple movies on iTunes and now her reward for not bittorrenting it is they're now worthless to her in her tf101 (or any Android device). Just use tpb for what you need. Besides they can recommpress or remove drm in the time it takes you to poop. They're pros
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Tell me about it! It's like I'm getting punished for "doing the right thing".
To be honest - I got the Back to the Future BR trilogy (I'm one of those huge nerdy fans) and thought: "Sweet, as a bonus - I'll get to play this back anywhere!" So I loaded up the M4V into iTunes (which works just fine with my Apple TV).
But I tried getting the movies on my tablet - where they really count (especially during travel) - and nothing.
It really is hard to "be good" when you pay for a product and then have to jump through hoops and over hurdles (wasting hours of your own time) to make use of something you OWN.
I can open up any BT client and get the full HD-BR rips in FAR less time than it'll take me to figure out how to get my rightfully purchased copies onto a media player (that I also own).
Thanks for the tips everyone!
How do you guys put files larger than 4GB on ur prime/SD card? Split the file?
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How do you guys put files larger than 4GB on ur prime/SD card? Split the file?
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The 4 GB limit is a FAT32 filesize limit. Only the SDCARD is FAT32 so this is should not true of the internal storage. If you download the file on your prime and store it on the internal storage it should work fine. If you need to put in on your SDCARD than you would need to split them or compress them to be under 4GB since it would be FAT32. Or you can store it some where else and stream it (if were are talking videos and on topic).
Try DVD Catalyst.
I use that to convert MY DVD's to work on my Nook Color. I have not looked if there is a preset for the Transformer Prime yet but I did copy some movies that I converted for the Nook to my TP and they look great.
Try EXTFAT
I formatted my external sdcard as extfat in Windows 7 and have a 7.50 gb blueray movie on it which plays flawlessly.
I know everyone keep giving high praise to MX Player but it has fail to HW decode all of my various MKV files. As for file size limitation, ATP can read NTFS just fine.
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How do you guys put files larger than 4GB on ur prime/SD card? Split the file?
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Prime have no problem with files larger than 4gb. Works good on the internal storage. And if you have a sdcard you format it to NTFS.
I have format my microsd to NTFS and played a 8gb mkv movie without problems
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Sweet, I wasn't sure if the transformer support NTSF since its a windows format. so what's the difference between exfat and NTSF?
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I know everyone keep giving high praise to MX Player but it has fail to HW decode all of my various MKV files. As for file size limitation, ATP can read NTFS just fine.
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I agree, mx sucks, use bs player, everything is hardware accelerated.
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I havent had any problems with MX.
It plays every MKV I throw at it, even those with heavily animated subtitles.
Full disclosure: They were all 720p, perhaps the HW v. SW decoding doesn't become seriously relevant until 1080?
how do i play mkv video files without decoding it to mp4 ?
i think any lesser device supports mkv
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how do i play mkv video files without decoding it to mp4 ?
i think any lesser device supports mkv
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download vlc player or mx player from play store
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download vlc player or mx player from play store
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It doesnt even let me copy the file, windows explorer crashes
File size larger than 4Gb? If so format SD card exfat
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File size larger than 4Gb? If so format SD card exfat
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The file is 1.4 giga and for some reason when I tried to copy the to my s3 it also crashed (in the past I could transfer to the s3)
a lot of my anime and tv shows are in mkv format but they are pretty small in size and i have no trouble playing them with mx player. i might try a larger file and get back to you.
Edit: i transfered a 13.1GB file to my XTZ "The Hobbit, An unexpected Journey 1080p" x264 .mkv file (bearing in mind whenever you transfer something to your XTZ at least in my case, it will warn you the file may need to be converted to play on your device) and i played it using mx player at first it complained i needed a custom codec to play audio because of "dts" which i went and downloaded but the movie was still playing without audio and looked fine. After installing the codec i tried playing the movie again and it was working perfectly.
If you cant transfer the files have you tried a different usb cable to connect your XTZ to your computer or even tried using an sd card reader (if your using an sd card) ?
I'm having the same issues and can't figure it out. Smaller files around 25 mb transfer fine. Larger files like my tv shows, which are 1+ gb, crash windows explorer every time. Yet I can transfer the same files without problem using OTG and a thumbdrive. I'm running stock (4.12) on an SGP312. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thx!
To the OP, mkv files play on the stock player but you wont get any audio if the audio format is AC3. Try downloading the vmplayer from google play. Works for me.
*** Also I tried a different cable and had the same results.
If watching anime, MX Player and BSPlayer are great options. I prefer to use MX Player because it renders perfectly .ass and .saa styled subtitles. Also the Hardware Plus (HW+) decoding works great. Only thing that won't be fully playable would be 10-bit color encodes that are getting popular among subbing groups, as this is due to hardware limitation, and software decoding is slow as heck with that format. So, anime in 8-bit and 1080p should run flawless.
For any other type of vids contained in mkv, MX Player and its HW+ decoder is also the one to go with. I play huge (+10GB) FullHD mkv files with no stuttering at all.
I used XTZ 32GB for all these tests.
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I'm having the same issues and can't figure it out. Smaller files around 25 mb transfer fine. Larger files like my tv shows, which are 1+ gb, crash windows explorer every time. Yet I can transfer the same files without problem using OTG and a thumbdrive. I'm running stock (4.12) on an SGP312. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thx!
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I had no issues transferring large files (up to 8GB) over USB to my SGP312. Might be a driver issue in your Windows version. I am using Windows 8 64bit myself.
That being said, I am now solely using the app Wifi File Transfer Pro to send data wirelessly to my Tablet. It is not as fast as USB, but much more convenient.
Download some other media players for your tablet like VLC, MX players. If they can not help you achieve the goal, then I am afraid that you need to encode your videos into MP4 format via a third party programs inclucing Handbrake or Brorsoft Video Converter.