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I updated to 404, and kept it for a week. Now I'm back on GB and oh man it's so much better.
Why is ICS so freaking horrible on this phone?
Compared to GB, ICS is buggy, slow, unstable, unresponsive and prone to hang.
I don't know what you use your phone for, but with mine, I used to play games, browse the web, and listen to music, other than normal phone usage for calls and SMS.
The browser on ICS is pathetically slow and unstable compared to the one in Gingerbread. In GB, you could actually run 720p youtube videos in desktop mode page and it would actually work perfectly. If you do it on ICS you risk hanging your phone and having to remove the battery. Either that, or the browser either crashes or becomes extremely unresponsive to the point even haptic feedback on the back and home buttons becomes delayed. On certain complex desktop pages, swiping becomes unresponsive and responds up to a full second late. Try this on the youtube desktop page or any other big page. Also, the new ICS browser tends to close on it's own for no reason, and as far as I know, there is no way to go back to the home page using it. The only way is to open a new tab, go back to the tab page, close the old tab and switch to the new tab. On the old one all you have to do is simply close all tabs and the browser would automagically put you back to the home page.
Games used to run fairly well on GB but in ICS they are so much more laggy. Some games that were perfectly fluid and playable are choppy on ICS, for example, Wind Up Knight, Let's Golf 3 (which is unplayable), Asphalt 6. The Angry Bots tech demo ran well on GB but it lags like there is no tomorrow on ICS. Another game that used to work perfectly in GB is Riptide GP, after I updated to 404, the game tends to hang the phone after a while, requiring a battery removal.
Other than this, the ICS update has several bugs including malfunctioning led notifications, no compass in google maps (this basically renders google maps unusable), and general clunky feel when scrolling through homescreens, when in GB the whole thing was smooth as silk. Even using a live wallpaper couldn't make the phone slow on GB, while on ICS it looks like even moving a bunch of icons is too much for this phone to handle.
Sure, ICS adds some eye candy such as the NXT theme which I really like, an animation for screen rotation, but I'd rather have a functional phone than a pretty but slow, clunky, unstable phone.
Again, I have no idea why you guys love ICS so much, GB is a lot better in every way imaginable, and as an added bonus, you can use all the Xperia S stuff on it without any problem, including the beautiful new music player.
ICS is simply a slow clunky mess which barely works. I'd love to know why you think it's better than GB.
not true .. it is laggy because it runs on 1ghz .. imagine if ur phone had 600mhz .. laggy as hell but weirdly htc desire c ... can run ics
be lucky that sony actually updated ur xperia ray unlike scamsung they didnt update the galaxy s to ics because its specs cant handle it but it has same specs as our ray
hope u understandd
This is the reason Sony wont provide more updates when they see such threads.....
Remember what they did to XPeria Play users...?
Sony released a Beta ICS for Xperia play and all users started complaining games are laggy !!, it sucks!!, ICS is fail!!... the end result was Sony cancelled ICS for Play..
You are wrong ics runs super smooth on galaxy ace 800mhz older gen cpu
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This is the reason Sony wont provide more updates when they see such threads.....
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You are wrong.
The user has every right in the world to complain if something doesn't work properly. I don't think the users complaining has anything to do with Play not receiving ICS.
ICS on Ray is slow and it is much worse than Gingerbread for whatever reason. Maybe our phone is not powerful enough to run ICS in the first place?
Also, I would have preferred an update to Gingerbread with all the Xperia S stuff and gingerbread 2.3.7 to this ICS which is exactly the same as gingerbread for the most part, only much slower and buggy.
A smartphone should be all about ease of use, if I have to resort to modding and overclocking to get the damn thing running at an acceptable level of performance, there has to be something very wrong with it.
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ICS on Ray is slow and it is much worse than Gingerbread for whatever reason.
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Sony did offer an explanation for this: ICS was made for a dual core phone with 1 GB RAM
although ICS is new and compelling in many ways, we would like all of our users to make an informed decision when selecting what Android™ software to use. We are actually proud to say that our Gingerbread software is very stable and has great performance, so it’s not a bad idea to stay on this release. Ice Cream Sandwich is more intensive, for example in terms of resource usage.
When it comes to ICS, it’s a major upgrade of Android™, and there are a lot of things that have changed compared to the Gingerbread release. Some of these changes affect the performance and stability of the system, for example by using more CPU power and RAM. ICS was developed with Galaxy Nexus in mind, which is based on a TI platform with dual-core processor and 1GB RAM
http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/...nical-differences-between-gingerbread-and-ics
Phone is phone
Game console is game console
Phone is not a game console, and you would not get same experience....ever.
ICS is overall much better and functional than GB. Who wants to use 3.3" display for gaming has some serious mental problems :banghead:
Try custom ROMs
I have SE Xperia Ray and try almost all options (rooted/unrooted with custom ROMs or not) sincerely Stock firmware a little laggy in browser or then multitasking particularlry at version 4.03 BUT at 4.04 i see it a big difference in smoothness the OS is much stable. The big problem now is 512 RAM, problem until you root your phone and install custom ROM (you need to unlock bootloader without loosing DRM data) delete aplications who work in backround you really didn't need them like update, livemanager I was very happy when i unninstaled Gmaps that all time worked in background even if GPS off, and now I use Igo for GPS Navigation. Now I have KA20.2 ROM and I can you assure the phone are so smooth and stable. My advice: root your phone, unlock bootlader with a safe method ( I used S1) a install a custom ROM, here on XDA you may found so many nice performing ROMs, and of course remove useless aplication who work in backround and eat your precious RAM. And of course before you unlock bootloader and root the phone, install cwm, read the guides, exists a risk, you know so you need to be informed how to unlock bootloader, root your phone, use fastboot and flashboot mode, of course in the case you never rooted a phone.
Best regards.
YMMV
On my device I didn't encounter any bugs, lags or poor performance with the ICS.
It's stable, runs smoothly and has the same battery life I had with BG.
One can't say for a fact the ICS don't run well on this device, since other people have different experience with it. A person my note his personal experience - and it's just fine to do so!
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I have SE Xperia Ray and try almost all options (rooted/unrooted with custom ROMs or not) sincerely Stock firmware a little laggy in browser or then multitasking particularlry at version 4.03 BUT at 4.04 i see it a big difference in smoothness the OS is much stable. The big problem now is 512 RAM, problem until you root your phone and install custom ROM (you need to unlock bootloader without loosing DRM data) delete aplications who work in backround you really didn't need them like update, livemanager I was very happy when i unninstaled Gmaps that all time worked in background even if GPS off, and now I use Igo for GPS Navigation. Now I have KA20.2 ROM and I can you assure the phone are so smooth and stable. My advice: root your phone, unlock bootlader with a safe method ( I used S1) a install a custom ROM, here on XDA you may found so many nice performing ROMs, and of course remove useless aplication who work in backround and eat your precious RAM. And of course before you unlock bootloader and root the phone, install cwm, read the guides, exists a risk, you know so you need to be informed how to unlock bootloader, root your phone, use fastboot and flashboot mode, of course in the case you never rooted a phone.
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Where i can find i go navigation? it's free?
play games on ICS? ahaha you make me laugh. small screen but still eager to play games? LOL. go get Xperia Play mate, it build for gamers. i feel sorry for you then. GB is history for me. you'll never move forward if you keep looking back. neway, enjoy your phone mate
@MarkMRL: That's been my experience too, though I don't play games.
I haven't tried the latest ICS though, which people report as being much better.
I moved to CM7.2 - it's very fast, with lots of great features the stock ROM doesn't have.
At the end of the day use what you're happy with
ICS is not buggy but it needs time.
Ok so 1.ICS is better looking cause gingerbread is a pain to ur eyes
2. Its better optimized than gb games are slightly better
3. It is not just for non rooted phones. Like it needs lots of optimiztion. Cuz stock one ahs lot of procceses and u have only 50mb ram free at all time so thats why is laggy. But if you supercharge or smurph out you ray-bam its perfeckt
I have 130 apps lots of procceses running at backround 5 HD games i play and i still
have 120 mb free ram so.. you have wrong thoughts about ics on ray...
Hey man I was in the same boat as you, when I first upgraded to ice I asked myself WTF is this **** and I really hated it, it was slow as hell and laggy but you got to know that developers know a lot more than you and that everything happens for a reason. Sorry but you come across asa huge cry baby
A few weeks back I was almost in the same mind set as you are in right now, I thought gingerbread was the best and ics was just crap but boy was I wrong
follow these steps and il bet you'l make another thread about why you love ics this time
1. Backup all your data, contacts. Msgs and pics
2. Do a factory reset/full wipe
3. Use the seus/pc companion and do a "repair"
NOW YOUR PHONE SHOULD BE COMPLETE STOCK MODE
4. Root the phone
5. Go to developer options, uncheck "dont keep apps" and "limit background processes" remember UNCHECK
6. Change window&transistion animations to .5
7. Use se tweaker to get cwm
8. Use hansip87s system ui and framework mod smooth scrolling thing (this makes some neat changes and adds notification and control and status widgets to the notification panel and you dont have to use the stupid status widget and the lame control buttons
9. There are some build prop edits /hacks thread where I saw the code for faster UI and scrolling and smoother transistions
10. If you want to use some of the awesome ROMS here by the awesome devs
11. Delete this thread
12. ??????????????
13. PROFIT!!
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I bet you your device will be faster and better than gb now, also its not the end of the world so be patient sony will make it better with each update and please, if you want to game that much why did you buy a phone with a 3.3in screen bro? Pm me if u have any problems
Oh also use root explorer or any other app similar to uninstall the se bloatware crap, I always have 150-120 free RAM always now, plus ics seems to have ajdusted the internal memory a bit
Its better than gb (coming from someone who hated ics 2 weeks back)
rikee said:
Phone is phone
Game console is game console
Phone is not a game console, and you would not get same experience....ever.
ICS is overall much better and functional than GB. Who wants to use 3.3" display for gaming has some serious mental problems :banghead:
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This is not a "phone", it's a smartphone. It should be able to run games and internet browser. And 3.3 inches is more than enough for those silly smartphone games. Every game I tried is perfectly playable and looking good too. I'm not a "smartphone gamer" (just the name makes me cringe), but I enjoy wasting some time with those little games every now and then (I also have a PSP, DS and PSVita by the way). It annoys me that I was able to play certain games before but not anymore.
The point is that I was able to do all of that when I bought it, but now I can't do it anymore.
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YMMV
On my device I didn't encounter any bugs, lags or poor performance with the ICS.
It's stable, runs smoothly and has the same battery life I had with BG.
One can't say for a fact the ICS don't run well on this device, since other people have different experience with it. A person my note his personal experience - and it's just fine to do so!
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Are you telling me your Ray has fully functional led notification and compass in google maps? Or that you can watch 720p youtube videos in the browser (or equivalent heavy browsing) without the crappy thing slowing down to a crawl or locking up entirely?
And no, I'm not crying I'm just stating facts.
Also, firefrenzy, that's exactly what I did when I updated to 404. I know all there is to know when it comes to installing stuff, I have unlocked bootloader and installed a stock kernel with CWM I found on this board, and also supercharged to 100%. Still horrible. I haven't tried ICS custom roms yet.
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Are you telling me your Ray has fully functional led notification and compass in google maps? Or that you can watch 720p youtube videos in the browser (or equivalent heavy browsing) without the crappy thing slowing down to a crawl or locking up entirely?
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i dont know about the compass in the maps because i dont use the google maps ever, but i have no problems with the led notification or lag when playing hd video through browser, i have multiple tabs, of xda developers and another bodybuilding forum tabs and im using whatsapp messenger and normal messenger with my earphones plugged in listening to music altogeather at once on an almost daily basis and im having no problems, sure all that is slurping away my battery but that is understandable, only issue i had was i could not charge the phone when "switched off" the phone used to go into a bootloop, but the awesome people here fixed that too
Also, firefrenzy, that's exactly what I did when I updated to 404. I know all there is to know when it comes to installing stuff, I have unlocked bootloader and installed a stock kernel with CWM I found on this board, and also supercharged to 100%. Still horrible. I haven't tried ICS custom roms yet.
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BRO TAKE OFF ALL THAT STUFF,CLEAR ALL CACHE AND DATA AND START OVER FROM STOCK, ICS IS BETTER THAT WAY
AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN UPGRADED TO 4.0.4, SE'S OFFICIAL IS STILL 4.0.3
ICS was smooth for me & it's smoother now i'm on JJ's Hybrid ROM.
Try a custom rom...
Run on 4.0.4 Original rooted with all bloat remove, including all FB stuff. It runns realy good. Sure get a redraw some times after surfing on some heavy sites or a long driveing session with waze. But in may normal daily use, read e-mail, check calander and make phone calls it runs realy well and lag free.
But the Sony dailer is crap, I use exDailer & Contacts, much better and faster.
This toic should be moved to general. Unless it helps developers in some way which i have a hard time believing.
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Hey, guys. I've just tried the ROM by Championswimmer.
AOKP, this is the thread :
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693185
and it is so damn f***in smooth!!
instead of tweaking sony based ICS ROM which is super laggy, I suggest to develop ROM by championswimmer
I'm sorry if there are inappropriate words that may offend..
I ain't no developer, and it is just a suggestion. thanks.
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Hey, guys. I've just tried the ROM by Championswimmer.
AOKP, this is the thread :
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693185
and it is so damn f***in smooth!!
instead of tweaking sony based ICS ROM which is super laggy, I suggest to develop ROM by championswimmer
I'm sorry if there are inappropriate words that may offend..
I ain't no developer, and it is just a suggestion. thanks.
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Official ICS is not so laggy after few optimization,and,very important thing is FULLY FUNCTIONAL.
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When did "smoothness" become meaningful?
It's such a stupid, dumb measure.
Namely:
a) What does it even MEAN?
b) How do you measure it?
A good ROM should be functional, stable and do everything you want.
If you really measure a ROM by how quickly you can swipe your launcher screen, well, delete every .apk from your phone and have THE SMOOTHEST ROM ever.
I agree,I would rather use smooth rom than full working and laggy
P.S just check fps score with fps2d app you will see how bad it is
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When did "smoothness" become meaningful?
It's such a stupid, dumb measure.
Namely:
a) What does it even MEAN?
b) How do you measure it?
A good ROM should be functional, stable and do everything you want.
If you really measure a ROM by how quickly you can swipe your launcher screen, well, delete every .apk from your phone and have THE SMOOTHEST ROM ever.
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FYI, Smoothness is not just on how quickly I swipe my launcher screen, but it is how quickly the app responds too. When I'm using twitter for android on ICS based custom ROM for example. It is very laggy and it's bugging me. So I rolled back to GB.
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Official ICS is not so laggy after few optimization,and,very important thing is FULLY FUNCTIONAL.
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Indeed very functional. I agree on that point, but when I used apps like twitter or angry birds, it is not as smooth as GB. In my opinion, performance & functionality is at the same level. Not functional first and then performance second or vice versa,
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Indeed very functional. I agree on that point, but when I used apps like twitter or angry birds, it is not as smooth as GB. In my opinion, performance & functionality is at the same level. Not functional first and then performance second or vice versa,
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...in this world you can't never have "the best of two worlds"
Edit: have you ever tried a stripped rom?
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...in this world you can't never have "the best of two worlds"
Edit: have you ever tried a stripped rom?
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Yeah. I have, and still don't like it (Stripped ICS ROM, I mean).
Can't have the best of two worlds (and suck the reality?).. I think I disagree with you. I'm using GB ROM (Stock-based: kernel/rom Repack by 4pda.ru team) which is its performance and functionality perfectly suits me at present. So, maybe I'll just have to wait a little longer, I guess. LOL
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Yeah. I have, and still don't like it (Stripped ICS ROM, I mean).
Can't have the best of two worlds (and suck the reality?).. I think I disagree with you. I'm using GB ROM (Stock-based: kernel/rom Repack by 4pda.ru team) which is its performance and functionality perfectly suits me at present. So, maybe I'll just have to wait a little longer, I guess. LOL
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i intend cool like ics + smooth like gb
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i intend cool like ics + smooth like gb
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Or GB that looks like ICS?
Here's my first try, probably my only one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1752953
Suggestion: Make a version for locked bootloaders please.
Stock Is Smooth
There's no need for your suggestion, the Stock ICS 4.0.4 is smooth on mine.
Try flashing an official ICS[Untouched] then flash JJ's Official 4.0.4 ROM[Rooted and busy box installed], then Use sirkays kernel, and you shall have a long lasting and powerful XRay...
Anyway, the only thing that I am concerned on the official ICS is that the camera is still laggy-a-bit[but usable], the new Gallery doesn't use the Mobile Bravia Engine[but the old xperia gallery does], Graphics driver needs update[asphalt 6 graphics is somewhat messed up(I See red lines on the environment while playing).]
I am looking for a best stock or custom rom for ray for daily using with some of productivity apps. SO guys, please tell me the fastest ROM for Ray and the instruction pls . Thanks
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I am looking for a best stock or custom rom for ray for daily using with some of productivity apps. SO guys, please tell me the fastest ROM for Ray and the instruction pls . Thanks
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thread about this topic has been opened before
Best Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1912041
Post your BenchMark Scores For Xperia Ray
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731643
there you found your answer
OptiMax is the best rom for Xperia Ray.
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No rom can beat JB regarding smoothness. I tried both PAC and Cyanogen, both are great in that regard, but i think PAC is a bit better due to the presence of AOKP and a better camera.
I wouldnt recommend 4.0 custom rom, especially with Aroma installer. I'm gonna say it blunt, as i think it : all those are frankeinstein monsters built from parts badly put together, there is no graphical cohesion or harmony. Even the Sony stock roms now get elements from other phones, and overall, look really, really amateurish.
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No rom can beat JB regarding smoothness. I tried both PAC and Cyanogen, both are great in that regard, but i think PAC is a bit better due to the presence of AOKP and a better camera.
I wouldnt recommend 4.0 custom rom, especially with Aroma installer. I'm gonna say it blunt, as i think it : all those are frankeinstein monsters built from parts badly put together, there is no graphical cohesion or harmony. Even the Sony stock roms now get elements from other phones, and overall, look really, really amateurish.
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I totally disagree. While the JB may be smooth without any apps installed and some tweaking, ICS allows you to run a plethora of apps like skype and facebook without becoming a lagging monster.
The majority of custom ICS roms out there are not pretty, but OptiMax 2, JellySandwich 7.4 are raising the bar. I also have really high hopes for Iced Bean 3.
For really smooth go for ForsakenGB rom 3! Also the best experience I have had gaming wise
Between Iced bean 2.1 and Optimax 2.0 ?
still jj hybrid for me.
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I would say superleggra v3. I try all roms and always end up using it. Superb battery life and smoothness. Iced bin is also nice except having some small problem.
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I would say superleggra v3. I try all roms and always end up using it. Superb battery life and smoothness. Iced bin is also nice except having some small problem.
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+1
I'm using this ROM too and must agree
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I totally disagree. While the JB may be smooth without any apps installed and some tweaking, ICS allows you to run a plethora of apps like skype and facebook without becoming a lagging monster.
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Are you implying that 4.1 can become a lagging monster ? Because i never saw that with my eyes.
On the other hand, yeah, 4.0 is stable. Stable in sluggishy, but stable. Unless you have friends and many texts : then, you're screwed.
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Are you implying that 4.1 can become a lagging monster ? Because i never saw that with my eyes.
On the other hand, yeah, 4.0 is stable. Stable in sluggishy, but stable. Unless you have friends and many texts : then, you're screwed.
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I am not implying, I am saying that it can become a lagging monster. I have experienced it myself. It only takes a few large apps to overload 4.1.
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I am not implying, I am saying that it can become a lagging monster. I have experienced it myself. It only takes a few large apps to overload 4.1.
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Well. I have 140 apps on my phone. 40 of them are games. I use swap and link2sd to make space. I use my rom with those apps and without swap enabled when i paly a game like subway surfers. It runs smoothly and when i hit home i have my launcehr full of widgets. Then with subway surfer in memory i launch Nfs most wanted and i play it also with minimal lag. My mum texts me on whats app that moment so i realise whats app didnt get killed by those two games. So i can say i have superb multitasking in genereal on ics not saying only in my rom but my rom improowes things... i tryed fxp145 witch is their most stable relese. It was smooth. i agree but it was smooth until i installed my 140 apps. I enabled swap(on ics i told about i didnt used swap) so i enabled it cuz it wass laggy and apps were starting very slow. So i rebooted wit swap and launched subway surfers. It was smooth. I liked this. but after 1 min playing it started laging I pressed home. and i had no launcher. It was killed(god damn it this is suposed to be cm10) I realy disliked that. anyway then i ensured subway surf is in memory cached and i launched nfs most wanted. I started playign and it was lagging a lot then told my mum to whats app me. I receved it and nfs most wanted killed itself and it returned me to home automatically and again my launcher was killd. So is jb good - yes but not for our xperias. We dont have any drivers for it. So thats why.
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I am not implying, I am saying that it can become a lagging monster. I have experienced it myself. It only takes a few large apps to overload 4.1.
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I was like "how much does it take, seriously ?", and then Mr Tapa made his post. 140 apps, are you godamn ****ing serious ?
Honestly, 140 is not much. It may seem for people who only knew smartphones with so little internal storage but believe once you enter the tablet or the more recent smartphones, 8 gb isn't even enough !
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Honestly, 140 is not much. It may seem for people who only knew smartphones with so little internal storage but believe once you enter the tablet or the more recent smartphones, 8 gb isn't even enough !
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Meh for me 32 gb sd card class 10 is slow and not enough space
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Honestly, 140 is not much. It may seem for people who only knew smartphones with so little internal storage but believe once you enter the tablet or the more recent smartphones, 8 gb isn't even enough !
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That would be thinking we have an endless need for apps and stuff only limited by storage. Sorry dude, but this isn't even remotely intelligent. 140 apps, not much ? I'm not even sure the uncompressible time of loading all of them can fit during a few days of a busy man.
Sorry to say guyz, but when you answer something like "4.1 can be a laggy monster", have the reflex to end up your sentence : "when i install my 140 applications, wich is not much", so that some readers can quickly detect they're just not talking about the damn same thing.
So, to me : i have 12 dowloaded applications, never saw 4.1 get laggy whatsoever. But i communicate a lot with texts, and as soon as i reach 30 of them on internal memory, all the 4.0 i've tested become increasingly sluggy, to a point where opening my contacts app takes up to 5 seconds.
I've been an s3 for almost 7 months now. From last few months on touchwiz JB 4.1.2 based ROMs, I feel my phone has become sort of slow (not exactly laggy though), but slow in opening critical phone apps like dialer or contacts, etc Also launcher redraws have become lot frequent now..
I remember when I initially got my phone with ICS, it felt so snappy coming from sgs2 that I didn't move to custom ROM that for few months as I just didn't feel the need. Somehow, its lost that wow now .
Is it because I have gotten used to the speed and craving for something better or was ICS really faster, you guys also feel?
P.S. I don't think its number of apps related as I have roughly the same number of apps now which I was using back then...
I actually feel that it's slightly slower too, but I still prefer jellybean because the lagginess is not very significant and I also use the multiwindow function quite often
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I actually feel that it's slightly slower too, but I still prefer jellybean because the lagginess is not very significant and I also use the multiwindow function quite often
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I don't see too much difference but is true in some times importante apps such as dialer load not as faster as i like.
This behavior i think is in ICS too, or at lesast i remeber
AW: Was ICS faster than JB on S3
The EMR2-build in combination with locked dialer and contacts by JKAY framework is THE MOST fluent phone I've ever expected. No lag at all, full Touchwiz functionality and complete AOSP look. Guys? We have a winner!
|| Typed with my S4 Octa-Beast or my Note 10.1 ||
Op - Relevance? If this phone could run froyo, some things would be quicker.
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Op - Relevance? If this phone could run froyo, some things would be quicker.
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true that, but ironically JB was supposed to make things faster with project butter and all
anyway I was seriously thinking of reverting back to ICS, the only thing which I'm gonna miss would be the improved notifications, don't use multi-window at all and about google now..its a nice concept but still haven't seen good use for it yet. Not sure what else was changed from ICS to JB transformation.
Though i'm not sure, if I can flash ICS simply, as I have upgraded my modem and camera driver. Is there any precautions/procedures I need to follow ?
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
luci.tal said:
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
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if you are rooted you can try to overclock your device, also install custom kernels with better governors. try a search on the forum, you will get a lot of custom kernels also find ways to overclock your device.
hope i helped.
Thank you for your answer.I am rooted and now i am using fusion 5.5 kernel clocked at 1 .2 with ondemand gov and deadline gov for RAM and ZRAM on Racing Bean ROM.It is better but it still laggs sometimes.The only apps i've installed are:Facebook with messenger,yahoo mail,CSR racing,whatsapp,twitter,es file explorer and titanium backupThanks again!
luci.tal said:
Thank you for your answer.I am rooted and now i am using fusion 5.5 kernel clocked at 1 .2 with ondemand gov and deadline gov for RAM and ZRAM on Racing Bean ROM.It is better but it still laggs sometimes.The only apps i've installed are:Facebook with messenger,yahoo mail,CSR racing,whatsapp,twitter,es file explorer and titanium backupThanks again!
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Delete Facebook or hibernate it with Greenify (search that app om play store).
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leajian said:
Delete Facebook or hibernate it with Greenify (search that app om play store).
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I've just installed Greenify and I will come back with a report.Thank you
Anyway our neo is not good for playing strong games. Buy a better phone or you'll burn your phone while overclocking.
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Try Jelly Bean ROMs with 3.4 kernel,in my experience it gives the best performance.
Jack Harper said:
Try Jelly Bean ROMs with 3.4 kernel,in my experience it gives the best performance.
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Performance is a subjective term..
It varies from person to person.
Well,games do lag on our phones beyond a point and I've seen every android device lag after sometime of use while doing heavy multitasking,etc
Android OS as such needs to undergo a lot of development .
Well,you do have to pay a price for the seamless customizing option it gives us..
Bertellio said:
Anyway our neo is not good for playing strong games. Buy a better phone or you'll burn your phone while overclocking.
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I never overclocked it to 1.6 Ghz.My maximum was 1.4 Ghz.Anyway greenify is a great app.It works like a charm.It made my phone faster and i think this is the fastest it can do.I am still thinking what I want.If i want to buy a new phone or buy another thing.Oh i remembered,I moved to Xtream Bean.It's a great fast rom,and it is faster with the performance boost from Racing Bean.Thank you guys!
luci.tal said:
I never overclocked it to 1.6 Ghz.My maximum was 1.4 Ghz.Anyway greenify is a great app.It works like a charm.It made my phone faster and i think this is the fastest it can do.I am still thinking what I want.If i want to buy a new phone or buy another think.Oh i remembered,I moved to Xtream Bean.It's a great fast rom,and it is faster with the performance boost from Racing Bean.Thank you guys!
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Would recommend you to switch to Super Jelly Bean v5.o + Fusion v5.5 kernel.
And yes, avoid overclocking. I never do. And if you switch to any SJB or moAOKP v3, you'd get enormous amount of RAM that you need not overclock!
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luci.tal said:
First i want to say Hi! to all of you out there.
Why is my neo-v so laggy?I tried many roms and kernels,but it still lags and i can't get an app to run properly withoul lagging.At first i thought it was the little amount of RAM,but i have a friend that has an LG Optimus Black and it laggs even more,so it can't be the RAM what else could it be?(I play CSR Racing a lot and with any Rom i tried it laggs,sometimes not so much)
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Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
martirio3000 said:
Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
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Well said. :thumbup:
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Gingerbread is the best ROM for this phone!My phone(MT15i) running with 2.3.4 GB .60 ,with adreno booster v0.6 and OC at 1,2GHZ and I can say,This is the max. of the phone!
martirio3000 said:
Use gingerbread my friend. Use gingerbread...
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I tried gingerbread.It works like a charm but I don't like it because many apps are not compatible with it.I am now using SJBX v5 and it is the best jb rom ever.
luci.tal said:
I tried gingerbread.It works like a charm but I don't like it because many apps are not compatible with it.I am now using SJBX v5 and it is the best jb rom ever.
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Well yes, not all apps are compatible with it. Just think like your phone was a computer/PC.
You install windows xp which is themable and can become like windows 7 (i think transforming it to windows 8 would make it less efficient.)
So you have the lightets and most beautiful version of windows ever on your pc. But still windows xp can only use directx 9 and cant use internet explorer10 (but anyway who's using internet explorer nowadays.). Also a lot of software is not compatible with it.
So you install windows 7. Windows 7 will give you an amazing collection features,apps and such but they will perform slower compared to windows xp. (We are always talking about a computer with about 1,3~1.5Ghz proccesor)
So you must choose between these two: A lot of compatible apps and slow speed OR excellent performance with lower app compability. Well you choose. Gingerbread or ICS/JB. It is up to you and how you are going to use your phone.
Also with the lemon cake (if i rember correctly) version of android there is going to be a huge performance increase because it is going to support phone with ram of about 512MB which is what our phone has. And with a fully working kernel 3 Performance should be increased [email protected]!
martirio3000 said:
Well yes, not all apps are compatible with it. Just think like your phone was a computer/PC.
You install windows xp which is themable and can become like windows 7 (i think transforming it to windows 8 would make it less efficient.)
So you have the lightets and most beautiful version of windows ever on your pc. But still windows xp can only use directx 9 and cant use internet explorer10 (but anyway who's using internet explorer nowadays.). Also a lot of software is not compatible with it.
So you install windows 7. Windows 7 will give you an amazing collection features,apps and such but they will perform slower compared to windows xp. (We are always talking about a computer with about 1,3~1.5Ghz proccesor)
So you must choose between these two: A lot of compatible apps and slow speed OR excellent performance with lower app compability. Well you choose. Gingerbread or ICS/JB. It is up to you and how you are going to use your phone.
Also with the lemon cake (if i rember correctly) version of android there is going to be a huge performance increase because it is going to support phone with ram of about 512MB which is what our phone has. And with a fully working kernel 3 Performance should be increased [email protected]!
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You're right.Each one of us has to choose what it wants.I think I will wait for the Lemon Cake.Hasn't our phone only 384 MB of RAM?
luci.tal said:
You're right.Each one of us has to choose what it wants.I think I will wait for the Lemon Cake.Hasn't our phone only 384 MB of RAM?
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actually it is 335 for gingerbread
340 for ics and
384 for jb *as you said
Well because of the fact that i am afraid of unlocking my bootloader (no money to fix/replace the phone from any damage caused) i cant tell you about custom kernels. But our phone has in general 512mb of ram. Generally some memory is taken by the kernel for some functions for example camera/gpu. Camera 720p has been removed from jelly bean so thats why it has more free ram.
That happens on every phone i guess.
martirio3000 said:
actually it is 335 for gingerbread
340 for ics and
384 for jb *as you said
Well because of the fact that i am afraid of unlocking my bootloader (no money to fix/replace the phone from any damage caused) i cant tell you about custom kernels. But our phone has in general 512mb of ram. Generally some memory is taken by the kernel for some functions for example camera/gpu. Camera 720p has been removed from jelly bean so thats why it has more free ram.
That happens on every phone i guess.
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Thx for explaining me.Now i understood.But why does the gingerbread work smoother than jb if it has less RAM available
Oh,and i have another question(about CSR Racing).When I am on stock gb or ics when i press to shift the gears it goes late(doesn't matter if i oc or not).I mean like 3 sec late.But when i am on a custom rom it changes the gear perfectly.Why is that happening?
luci.tal said:
Thx for explaining me.Now i understood.But why does the gingerbread work smoother than jb if it has less RAM available
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Well it seems to be lighter and probably I guess more optimized. Ram doesnt matter for performance in this case. Gingerbead was made to work on devices with even lower ram thats why no problems excists. Also my guess is tha Jb can work on even less ram smooth enough. Ram in android is mostly occupied by cached processes which are "useless" for the Os to operate correctly.
Anyway about csr racing i know nothing ).