Bluetooth mice and hover controls? - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I connected a bluetooth mouse I had lying around hoping it would allow me to use the browser like a desktop browser with support for things like popups that occur when hovering the cursor over a link/picture, dragging flash or other controls, drag-select text.
None of these things worked. The cursor appears and I can move, tap, drag and use the scroll wheel. But it basically behaves as a surrogate of my finger. All the web controls that would require a mouse on a desktop and that don't work with my finger, don't work any better with the cursor.
Is this the expected behaviour? I tried the stock browser, Dolphin and Firefox. They were all the same.
Is there any advantage to using a bluetooth mouse? The only things I can see are less fingerprints on the screen a better precision for positioning the text cursor. But my capacitive stylus covers those just as well.
Thanks.

Tried it on Chrome? Depends with FW are you on, and kernel.

Misledz said:
Tried it on Chrome? Depends with FW are you on, and kernel.
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Does it work properly on Chrome? From what I understand Chrome requires ICS and while I played with it briefly it seemed like it still needed work on stability and I use the camera for Evernote. But I'd be happy if ICS supports proper mouse integration.
I'm using Task 14 with Pershoot's kernal.
Thanks.

tmagritte said:
I connected a bluetooth mouse I had lying around hoping it would allow me to use the browser like a desktop browser with support for things like popups that occur when hovering the cursor over a link/picture, dragging flash or other controls, drag-select text.
None of these things worked. The cursor appears and I can move, tap, drag and use the scroll wheel. But it basically behaves as a surrogate of my finger. All the web controls that would require a mouse on a desktop and that don't work with my finger, don't work any better with the cursor.
Is this the expected behaviour? I tried the stock browser, Dolphin and Firefox. They were all the same.
Is there any advantage to using a bluetooth mouse? The only things I can see are less fingerprints on the screen a better precision for positioning the text cursor. But my capacitive stylus covers those just as well.
Thanks.
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With what you are using, I believe you are getting the expected behavior. "an extension of your finger"
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tmagritte said:
Does it work properly on Chrome? From what I understand Chrome requires ICS and while I played with it briefly it seemed like it still needed work on stability and I use the camera for Evernote. But I'd be happy if ICS supports proper mouse integration.
I'm using Task 14 with Pershoot's kernal.
Thanks.
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Not entirely sure since I don't have a BTooth mouse but will test it for you sometime this week.

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Tab key in alternate browsers?

Does anyone with the keyboard dock notice that the tab key doesn't work in alternate browsers? I've tried Opera, Firefox, and Dolphin, and tab doesn't move between form fields like it does in the stock browser. The Enter key doesn't always submit forms the way it's supposed to either. Only in the Stock Browser does everything work.
I thought it might be Thumb Keyboard, but it's happening even when I switch back to the default Asus keyboard.
Anyone see this or know how to fix it?
same here
would love a workaround or fix!
It works fine for me when I use the stock Asus keyboard. I use Chrome browser.
Nefariouss said:
It works fine for me when I use the stock Asus keyboard. I use Chrome browser.
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I think he means the tab key on the keyboard dock. Not the asus virtual keyboard. I had the same problem, but I usually end up using the stock browser anyway because I miss having the dock browser key working.
moonunitenar said:
I think he means the tab key on the keyboard dock. Not the asus virtual keyboard. I had the same problem, but I usually end up using the stock browser anyway because I miss having the dock browser key working.
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Yep. I'm saying when I use the keyboard dock with the Asus keyboard selected I can tab from field to field. I normally use Chrome browser or ICS broswer+ but here is a video of me doing it on Dolphin HD. Shift + tab to back up a space wasn't working but I didn't test it out on any other browsers.
http://youtu.be/o1mfSS8HkeU

Handwritten notes

So I was looking for an app with palm rejection for the Transformer Prime. I was kind of looking for something similar to Notetaker HD for the iPad which uses the bezel of the tablet as the palm rejection area.
I couldn't find anything similar on the Android market so I decided to give another try on Supernotes. What I ended up doing was putting a regular computer mouse pad on top of the tablet and using the "Guided Line" feature to make sure that I was on the right spot. So far so good, this is in fact the best solution that I found and works way better than any other app!
However I'm having problems reading my own notes. I can't seem to find a simple Zoom feature on Supernotes, so could someone tell me how to zoom in? If it is not possible, are there other apps that have a similar "guided-line" feature and its as organized as Supernotes.
Thanks a lot!
I am not aware of a way to zoom in SuperNotes either. That has been my biggest problem with it.
Here are some handwriting apps that I have tried on the Transformer Prime that have zoom features that you may want to check out:
LectureNotes: my favorite (so far). Has scroll bars and zoom feature so you can write in the zoomed mode. Has option to enable a "save zone" for palm detection. 3 standard pens, and 12 custom pens that you can configure the size, color, and opacity. Can add multiple layers (overlays) to each page. Can enter text via keyboard. Can add keywords to each page, and search across notebooks for those keywords. Developer is very responsive, and has implemented suggestions and fixes quickly. There is a free trial version (limited # of notebooks and pages), and a paid version.
Writepad Stylus: Very good palm detection. Has zoom mode (can write in zoom mode), and scrolling. 3 standard pens, and 4 custom pens. 4 paper types, but cannot change the pattern size. Can enter text via keyboard, but it's a bit quirky.
Antipaper Notes: No palm detection. Has zoom mode, (can write in zoom mode), and scrolling. 6 pen sizes in 3 colors (15 colors in Pro version). 4 paper patterns, but cannot change the pattern size. No text entry for keyboard. Free and Pro version.
Hope this helps...
Yeah note taking apps on android are really behind ios right now but it seems like things are picking up. Hopefully in few months we will see something comparable to Notability.
Try wearing a glove or long sleeve. Better than carrying around a mouse pad.
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4look4rd said:
So I was looking for an app with palm rejection for the Transformer Prime. I was kind of looking for something similar to Notetaker HD for the iPad which uses the bezel of the tablet as the palm rejection area.
I couldn't find anything similar on the Android market so I decided to give another try on Supernotes. What I ended up doing was putting a regular computer mouse pad on top of the tablet and using the "Guided Line" feature to make sure that I was on the right spot. So far so good, this is in fact the best solution that I found and works way better than any other app!
However I'm having problems reading my own notes. I can't seem to find a simple Zoom feature on Supernotes, so could someone tell me how to zoom in? If it is not possible, are there other apps that have a similar "guided-line" feature and its as organized as Supernotes.
Thanks a lot!
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Have you tried to enable palm rejection using TouchScreenTune app from the market? It should allow palm rejection support everywhere in all apps.
vitalij said:
Have you tried to enable palm rejection using TouchScreenTune app from the market? It should allow palm rejection support everywhere in all apps.
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I think that TouchScreenTune requires your device to be Rooted, correct? I've been holding off rooting my Prime, but this may be a good reason to do so.

Mouse Over w/ S Pen

I am running the stock leaked ICS and Dolphin Browser. I noticed if you hover your s-pen about .5cm above the screen it will interact with webpages like a mouse over. Drop down menus expand, buttons highlight. Its a nice touch. Does it also do this in Gingerbread?
I didn't get any results for "mouse over" with a search.
Pops_G said:
I am running the stock leaked ICS and Dolphin Browser. I noticed if you hover your s-pen about .5cm above the screen it will interact with webpages like a mouse over. Drop down menus expand, buttons highlight. Its a nice touch. Does it also do this in Gingerbread?
I didn't get any results for "mouse over" with a search.
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I never noticed it on gb. Ran across it one day and thought it was cool.
I do not believe i have seen a thread on it but it has been discussed in one or two of the ics dev threads
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Noticed something weird on my Note - you can hover over stuff

I was playing around with my Note and noticed this really weird thing.
Go to http ://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WSPTVk!egb!acZbcc (a calculator for Diablo 3) (sorry can't post links). On your computer, you can see that whenever you hover over the icons another screen pops up with a more detailed explanation. Also if you click it it pops up a different screen with more information.
How to replicate this on your Note: You can of course get to the menu by clicking on the icons. But for the hover over: This sounds silly, but put the S Pen about 1 cm off the screen over the icons. It should display the hover over menu. So far, I've seen this work on the stock browser and the Reddit News app (which I think uses the stock browser).
It's not weird, they made it like that. The s-pen acts like a mouse. You can mouse over things by hovering it around, you can left click by touching it down onto the screen, and you can right click by holding it pressed down onto the screen.
If you go to Settings>Pen Settings and enable Hovering Pen Icon (if I recall correctly this wasn't on the original stock ROM, only the leaked updates), then you will actually be able to see the mouse cursor as well, so you can see exactly what you're mousing over.
That's kinda cool actually, i never noticed that about the stock browser. Although i think this may be the first tile I've opened the stock browser since the days of the htc dream and Cupcake or Donut or whatever the thing was running.
Kind of wish Opera had this...
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Thanks!
I learned something new and useful from this thread.
Yep. It is a great extra function. Turn on the mouse cursor too and you got a little PC.
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machinamayhem said:
I was playing around with my Note and noticed this really weird thing.
Go to http ://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WSPTVk!egb!acZbcc (a calculator for Diablo 3) (sorry can't post links). On your computer, you can see that whenever you hover over the icons another screen pops up with a more detailed explanation. Also if you click it it pops up a different screen with more information.
How to replicate this on your Note: You can of course get to the menu by clicking on the icons. But for the hover over: This sounds silly, but put the S Pen about 1 cm off the screen over the icons. It should display the hover over menu. So far, I've seen this work on the stock browser and the Reddit News app (which I think uses the stock browser).
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This is the best thing since my uncle fester manufactured a 6 foot tobogan out of beer cans, strapped a jet engine to it, installed a flat screen TV, a toilet, and put a mini fridge in it.
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Samsung keyboard vs. Logitech PRO

Hello, I read that many people like the Logitech PRO keyboard. It seems to be a bit heavy. Generally speaking, which is better? The official samsung keyboard or the Logitech PRO keyboard?
Depends on your use. I prefer the Samsung one, much thinner. The logitech makes the whole package too thick.
On the other hand the Logitech has the better keyboard and offers better protection for bothe the front and back.
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Thanks. Do both of them have automatic on/off, copy and paste keys?
The Logitech Pro definitely makes the entire package more book-like, and it also only has one angle setting AND it does not support portrait mode. Those are the only knocks against it, though. I love the keyboard. I use my Note PRO 12.2 for work and having a keyboard every bit as good as a laptop's is the critical feature for me.
The only thing I'm struggling with is trying to remap the hotkeys to my preferred apps. I want the internet key to launch Habit Browser not stock browser, for example. I know it's doable but I haven't had time to really grapple with it.
Hello, unfortunately my options for keyboards are limited. The Logitech PRO is not available in my city.
This is my first tablet. How useful it is to have Android keys on the keyboard? There are two main types:
1) Android specific keyboards such as:
a) Samsung Galaxy Bluetooth keyboard (0.8lb)
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/BKB-10USWEGXAR
b) Samsung Compact Wireless Bluetooth Keyboard(not sure if the spec is correct 0.96lb)
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/pcs-accessories/AA-SK7PWBB/US
I tried this one. It is very light but the keys are a bit too close. Easy to make mistakes.
2) Android compatible keyboards such as:
Logitech Bluetooth Illuminated Keyboard K810
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/bluetooth-illuminated-keyboard-k810?crid=26
I tried it today. Not sure about the weight compared with the Samsung's but the keys are very comfortable to type.
I am trying to choose between these three. Any suggestion?
Hello,
Which of the following two Samsung keyboard is comfortable to type and lightweight?
1. Samsung Galaxy Bluetooth Keyboard EE-BT550
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/EE-BT550UBEGUJ
2. Samsung Galaxy Bluetooth Keyboard BKB-10USWEGXAR
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/BKB-10USWEGXAR
I tried the NotePRO 12.2 Keyboard Cover with keyboard. Although it is light, it is not comfortable to type on due to the long raised strip from the ctrl key to the end arrow key. See the photo:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/EE-CP905UWEGUJ
Does the Logitech PRO keyboard has this problem? Too bad they don't make a white version. My device is in white color.
The Logitech Bluetooth Illuminated Keyboard K810 is very comfortable to type on but heavier to carry than the above mentioned Samsung keyboards.
Thanks.
As a writer, I've been using the samsung bkb10 bt kb and love it. It's light, fast, with great tactile feel, and it has a number of hot keys for the note pro 12.2. It's white and I use it with the great samsung s action mouse. My black 32 gb tab is in a black moko slim case. I didn't want a permanent case-kb like the logitech. I can fit my tab, kb and mouse in a bag a little over an inch thick. Together, the case, kb and mouse cost me $65.00. It's a great set up.
hajime_android said:
Hello,
Which of the following two Samsung keyboard is comfortable to type and lightweight?
1. Samsung Galaxy Bluetooth Keyboard EE-BT550
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/EE-BT550UBEGUJ
2. Samsung Galaxy Bluetooth Keyboard BKB-10USWEGXAR
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/BKB-10USWEGXAR
I tried the NotePRO 12.2 Keyboard Cover with keyboard. Although it is light, it is not comfortable to type on due to the long raised strip from the ctrl key to the end arrow key. See the photo:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/EE-CP905UWEGUJ
Does the Logitech PRO keyboard has this problem? Too bad they don't make a white version. My device is in white color.
The Logitech Bluetooth Illuminated Keyboard K810 is very comfortable to type on but heavier to carry than the above mentioned Samsung keyboards.
Thanks.
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I too am a writer and I'm trying to get by with the Logitech Pro. I opted against the Samsung keyboard because of its raised edges on the lower corners. So far it's a mixed bag. It's just fast enough for me, comfortable and quiet. However, it doesn't put the device to sleep when you close it, doesn't have an obvious (or possibly any) way to reassign macro buttons and the browser macro button always asks you to choose the browser you want if you have more than one installed.
Agrajag27 said:
doesn't have an obvious (or possibly any) way to reassign macro buttons and the browser macro button always asks you to choose the browser you want if you have more than one installed.
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You can try External Keyboard Helper Pro for that
Spere, do you say that because you've found it to work? Frankly, I grabbed the demo and am entirely confused by it. I don't see anything about how to reassign buttons. I tried to scan the keyboard scan code but it doesn't work. Instead of providing a scan code it just loads the app Logitech assigned. Makes me think it's hard-coded.
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Spere, do you say that because you've found it to work? Frankly, I grabbed the demo and am entirely confused by it. I don't see anything about how to reassign buttons. I tried to scan the keyboard scan code but it doesn't work. Instead of providing a scan code it just loads the app Logitech assigned. Makes me think it's hard-coded.
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I said it as an idea. I use that app with my old Logitech keyboard. If buttons seems to be hard coded, don't know would shortcut be changeable if you somehow find key codes for those button? I can also try it tomorrow..
For what it's worth, I spoke to Logitech support today and they essentially were useless. They said this keyboard has hard-coded application keys that cannot be changed and that the browser bug isn't a bug. The old, it's a feature! You get to pick which browser you want every single time you hit the button.
Does Samsung Keyboard support Arabic?
hi,
just a quick question, does any of both Samsung Keyboards support Arabic? or can be added in any way?
Thanks
Shaderach said:
The Logitech Pro definitely makes the entire package more book-like, and it also only has one angle setting AND it does not support portrait mode. Those are the only knocks against it, though. I love the keyboard. I use my Note PRO 12.2 for work and having a keyboard every bit as good as a laptop's is the critical feature for me.
The only thing I'm struggling with is trying to remap the hotkeys to my preferred apps. I want the internet key to launch Habit Browser not stock browser, for example. I know it's doable but I haven't had time to really grapple with it.
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Settings > General > Default Applications
Just change default internet browser
pirata****zu said:
Settings > General > Default Applications
Just change default internet browser
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Here's my question: Have you tried this yourself or just basing this on common knowledge? Why do I ask? Because, at least for me and on every Note Pro I've tried with that keyboard (took it to the store to try a few units) that doesn't work.
One of the main bugs of the keyboard is that when you hit the Browser macro button, it doesn't matter what browser is set as the default. It's going to pop up a dialog box asking you to choose the default. No matter what you hit next (Always or Just Once) it will ask again and again and again. It's actually in your best interest to say Just Once. Why? Because wasting your time by saying Always will just cause another box to pop up telling you how to clear the default setting later if you don't want that. Saying Just Once at least skips that step.
I'd be curious to see what would happen if you only have one browser installed but both "Internet" and "Chrome" come preinstalled on the device so there's no testing that unless you root and freeze one of them. I haven't had the need to root yet so I haven't.
Agrajag27 said:
I'd be curious to see what would happen if you only have one browser installed but both "Internet" and "Chrome" come preinstalled on the device so there's no testing that unless you root and freeze one of them. I haven't had the need to root yet so I haven't.
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If I'm right, you don't need to have root to freeze Chrome
Go settings - general - applications - all - find Chrome from list and choose it - select Turn Off
I don't have my NP with me right now, so I'm not sure if that path is correct, but you'll find it
Spere said:
If I'm right, you don't need to have root to freeze Chrome
Go settings - general - applications - all - find Chrome from list and choose it - select Turn Off
I don't have my NP with me right now, so I'm not sure if that path is correct, but you'll find it
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Thanks for that. It actually helped gain more insight into the problem but doesn't actually provide a solution.
So, turning off Chrome allows the Browser key to work without annoyance. The only problem is, it only works for the default Browser called "Internet". There is no way to turn off that browser.
It got me wondering about the other keys. I want my own calendar app to launch but turning off the default calendar seems risky.
I have the Logitech keyboard and I really like it. I was worried about the extra weight and thickness but I'm glad I went with this one. It feels more like an actual notebook in terms of utility because it's easier to bring it around with me or throw in a bag without it getting damaged.
There are a couple issues that I did have which may not be specific to this keyboard. One was that when you hit space while still holding down shift it does not insert a space and instead displays the current language which is super annoying (apparently I hit space before releasing shift A LOT). You can fix this by simply changing to a different virtual keyboard app (eg: the default google keyboard or swiftkey). The other issue I had is that the back button is in the position where you normally have escape key but it doesn't always seem to function the same as escape would. I think it is actually a different key code. I fixed that by remapping caps lock to escape (so now I have no caps lock but I never use that anyways).
Has anyone got the F1-F12 function keys to work with this? So far when I hit FN+MACRO it will just open the browser or calendar or whatever.. I was hoping this wouldn't be the case.
The ZAGG keyboard and Samsung keyboard has blue F1-F12 keys on them, so I was hoping this one would function that way also.. It's really annoying when using remote desktop.
So far I haven't been able to find any way to remap the keys on this thing..
I'm really hoping some more keyboard options emerge for this tablet..
I'm afraid we're all pretty screwed with this tablet with regard to keyboards. The Samsung keyboard is fully functional but doesn't hold the tablet. It just sits in a slot in the keyboard so it's unstable when sitting in bed, etc. The Zagg is very low quality and this one is the best of the lot but has a number of seemingly permanent problems that Logitech appears to have zero interest in addressing. I used to have some pull over there years ago but now my e-mail to upper management didn't even get a reply.

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