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I don't know if this is new, last I heard it was only "Q1 2012."
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2012/01/09/htc-2012-turkey-super-8-ics-4-0-updates/
Ocak 2012 translate to January 2012, and the other column says "approved" AFAICT.
EDIT: Maybe this is only carrier approval or something? Because the EVO 3D date appears to be in the past.
Idk but this means one thing.... More roms!!!!
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yes sure Turkey is first country in the world to get ics ports and first one to make it public...there are more chances to find life in Mars lol
Felinos11 said:
yes sure Turkey is first country in the world to get ics ports and first one to make it public...there are more chances to find life in Mars lol
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they are beta testers, not Turkeys :O
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yes sure Turkey is first country in the world to get ics ports and first one to make it public...there are more chances to find life in Mars lol
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did you read the article? they did not make it public intentionally. and it does not say they are getting it first either way. i agree it's sketchy at best, but not for the reasons you gave.
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did you read the article? they did not make it public intentionally. and it does not say they are getting it first either way. i agree it's sketchy at best, but not for the reasons you gave.
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htc turkey probably trying to have some more fans on facebook and stuff like that lol
Will be very awesome if true . Btw, we can expect to get Sense 4.0 with ICS on HTC Amaze when update does come around, correct?
I dont believe this. According to the chart, the EVO 3D was supposed to get ICS in 2011, didnt happen, therefore, the chart and the article is incorrect.
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I dont believe this. According to the chart, the EVO 3D was supposed to get ICS in 2011, didnt happen, therefore, the chart and the article is incorrect.
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I put this in the first post in an edit right after I posted this
Sorry i don't know how to edit the thread title..
Wonder if with ics we would be able to delete bloatware apps and if the phone will be a bit smoother and faster. Its fine so far but sometimes it lags.
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i don't know about if this news is believable or not, but regardless i'm still iffy if i want this update/what it will be like. i've had a bunch of different phones and roms, from vanilla to sense to touchwhiz and other various custom skins as many of you all mostlikely have. but at the end of the day, i really like sense. I've played with ICS and idk if i really like it vs sense. I'm really curious to if/how htc may skin ics with subtle sense features. I mean i think we can all agree that htc's widgets are amazing vs whats out there and i use many of them all the time. i'd sure hate to sacrifice them just to have the newest android os. how do you guys feel about if ics for amaze being skinned with some form of sense vs plain ics?
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i don't know about if this news is believable or not, but regardless i'm still iffy if i want this update/what it will be like. i've had a bunch of different phones and roms, from vanilla to sense to touchwhiz and other various custom skins as many of you all mostlikely have. but at the end of the day, i really like sense. I've played with ICS and idk if i really like it vs sense. I'm really curious to if/how htc may skin ics with subtle sense features. I mean i think we can all agree that htc's widgets are amazing vs whats out there and i use many of them all the time. i'd sure hate to sacrifice them just to have the newest android os. how do you guys feel about if ics for amaze being skinned with some form of sense vs plain ics?
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Since the amaze is a "sense" phone, stock wise, im pretty sure that an official ics update for our phone will be ics with sense. Like you, i love sense so for us thats a good thing
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I'm just waiting for the CM9. Hopefully it'll support the Amaze, unlike CM7.
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I'm just waiting for the CM9. Hopefully it'll support the Amaze, unlike CM7.
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As far as I know the reason there is no CM7 support for the Amaze, is because CM9 is relatively close to release and it will support the Amaze.
Honestly, I don't see why cm7 would be made for this phone I mean ics and cm9 are just around the corner
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Just my opinion so don't burn me for it but I don't think we should just be okay with getting ripped and only getting sense 3.6 and them releasing sense 4 just a few months after our phone even though ics was already out when our phones were released and sense 4 in the works and I'm pretty sure if we were to all put our thoughts about it on the HTC facebook page we might be able to stirr this up and maybe actually get somewhere. Who's with me?
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Who knows if it'd work but doesn't hurt to try.
Couldn't hurt to try that's for sure. But I'm pretty sure we'll still be seeing 3.6 for the upcoming OTA. I also wonder if they have future plans to officially update the Rezound to 4.0.
hey don't assault their facebook...
calm down
Newtoroot has just about finished sense 4.0 - actually i think he has
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501512
read the whole post it's there ....
the Vigor is awesome
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I agree it wouldn't hurt to try but if VZW/HTC really hold their promise of providing Rezound users with ICS, there is nothing we should have an issue with. I am happy we're getting ICS period to be honest.
Stock ICS over Sense 4.0 would be really nice but since it likely won't happen I'll keep supporting our Devs to bring us the latest and greatest.
Us not getting Sense 4 officially is just one reason why to be thankful for devs.
What does sense 4 have that 3.6 doesn't that we can take advantage of? We don't have the new camera with image sense and beats integration apparently is more than a software setting. We have the customizable dock so what else is there?
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The reason the Rezound won't get Sense 4.0 is that there are features in 4.0 that are specific to the hardware in the HTC One Series devices. Because of the differences between those devices and all other handsets preceding them a redesign of Sense was necessary. HTC isn't trying to screw anyone here and VZW had no decision in this matter. A petition won't do any good. We haven't even seen a changelog for Sense 3.6 yet or a side by side comparison of 4.0 so it's a bit premature to be upset that the Rezound won't get 4.0.
I don't care whether we get it or not but apparently a lot of others do.
I really don't care if we get it or not because our devs will eventually prefect it anyways.
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What does sense 4 have that 3.6 doesn't that we can take advantage of? We don't have the new camera with image sense and beats integration apparently is more than a software setting. We have the customizable dock so what else is there?
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boy a few of you on here sure don't seem to want "options" do you? you guys say the same about s-off and aosp.
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boy a few of you on here sure don't seem to want "options" do you? you guys say the same about s-off and aosp.
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I already have s-off
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boy a few of you on here sure don't seem to want "options" do you? you guys say the same about s-off and aosp.
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Once again, what advantages does sense 4 give you over 3.6? Besides I know that when you start frankensteining roms you tend to get broken features. See aosp on the thunderbolt.
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I just want cm9 I don't care about sense 3.0-4.0 I'm patiently waiting and using nova launcher
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the reason people want sense 4 is because apparnelty HTC streamlined sense and got rid of a lot of the bloat that made the phones bogged down because of the UI.
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the reason people want sense 4 is because apparnelty HTC streamlined sense and got rid of a lot of the bloat that made the phones bogged down because of the UI.
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That is a pretty good reason if you ask me. Probably would really help out the battery life too. I've easily doubled my battery life since tossing most of Sense 3.5 out.
Anyways, to answer the OP's question: YES. If you want Sense 4.0 officially because you're not willing to root and flash a ROM, then of course you should try to do something about it. The ONLY reason we arent getting Sense 4 is because they are leaving it exclusive to their upcoming devices, so they can use it as a selling point. If you don't think thats fair, you SHOULD say something. Don't expect anybody to listen... but you never know.
Was it just coincidence that HTC silently allowed Rezound on HTC Dev Unlock just a week or so after the petition was started? Maybe, but it could just as easily have been BECAUSE of the petition. I say there is no reason not to give it a shot.
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The reason the Rezound won't get Sense 4.0 is that there are features in 4.0 that are specific to the hardware in the HTC One Series devices. Because of the differences between those devices and all other handsets preceding them a redesign of Sense was necessary. HTC isn't trying to screw anyone here and VZW had no decision in this matter. A petition won't do any good. We haven't even seen a changelog for Sense 3.6 yet or a side by side comparison of 4.0 so it's a bit premature to be upset that the Rezound won't get 4.0.
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Agreed. Thanks for the input.
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it's not because of hardware. The rezound is capable of running sense 4. The one V will be running sense 4 and has significantly lower specs than the rezound.
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As someone said already, it's just being used as a selling point for the One series.
The Rezound has already been shunned by Verizon and probably HTC after the ICS update.
I'm fairly confident we'll never see Sense 4 officially.
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it's not because of hardware. The rezound is capable of running sense 4. The one V will be running sense 4 and has significantly lower specs than the rezound.
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I think there is some different hardware in those phones for the camera options they put in it. But they could definitely make a variation of sense 4 for us but they probably won't.
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I'm using the leaked ICS rom with Sense 3.6. It's great. And I just read an article comparing Sense 3.6 and 4.0. Am I missing something? Other than a few changes, is there really a reason for everyone to be so upset that we (probably) aren't 4.0? Or is it just the principle of the matter? Either way, I am completely happy with 3.6 and the improvements brought by ICS alone.
I'm sorry to say there's no "probably" involved here. The Rezound will not get Sense 4.0 in any official manner because Sense 4.0 "is built to take advantage of the hardware in the One Series handsets and beyond".
I'm a card-carrying Sense hater, but I'm pretty impressed by 4.0. It's been redesigned, and even Newt's beta ROM runs better than 3.6. If this is the future of Sense, then I'll take back what I've said about Sense in the past.
Yea I haven't tried Newt's rom yet bc I just got my Rezound yesterday and am content with the ICS leak until exams are over. FYI, Newt released RC1 today for that rom. The leak is performing pretty well tho, for me at least.
sense 4 will be great once our devs have 100% ironed out all of the bugs..but until then, it's kinda buggy and worse off than 3.6. but i'm pumped for when they're able to fully develop it
I think one of hte biggest advantage with the 4 is its light weight and better integration with ICS. 3.6 seems to still retain some looks and feel of the current version of sense so it still weighed down a little bit in terms of performnace. 4 seems to help with the performance better as there's less overhead needed.
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I'm using the leaked ICS rom with Sense 3.6. It's great. And I just read an article comparing Sense 3.6 and 4.0. Am I missing something? Other than a few changes, is there really a reason for everyone to be so upset that we (probably) aren't 4.0? Or is it just the principle of the matter? Either way, I am completely happy with 3.6 and the improvements brought by ICS alone.
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Seriously just make a back up and flash sense 4.0 I ran it all weekend and loved it and its still alpha Rom if ya ask me it does funny stuff and lags but the ui is gourges I'm a sense fan though so just try it out man
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I'm a card-carrying Sense hater
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+1
Sadly we will never see Sense 4.0 officially but apparently the new Incredible 4G will be sold with ICS and Sense 4.0...
Kinda wish I had waited to move on from my Thunderbolt now...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/11/verizon-htc-incredible-4g-gets-press-render-and-blurrycam/
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Seriously just make a back up and flash sense 4.0 I ran it all weekend and loved it and its still alpha Rom if ya ask me it does funny stuff and lags but the ui is gourges I'm a sense fan though so just try it out man
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I've been trying to unlock bootloader but every time I put in my token code or whatever I never receive the email with the attachment from htcdev, not sure what the issue is.
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Swifty31703 said:
Sadly we will never see Sense 4.0 officially but apparently the new Incredible 4G will be sold with ICS and Sense 4.0...
Kinda wish I had waited to move on from my Thunderbolt now...
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/11/verizon-htc-incredible-4g-gets-press-render-and-blurrycam/
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Yea but it has a 4" screen right? I don't want to go.smaller than 4.3"
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TRSmithV said:
I've been trying to unlock bootloader but every time I put in my token code or whatever I never receive the email with the attachment from htcdev, not sure what the issue is.
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Check your spam folder? Did you get a confirmation email when you created an account, verifying that your email address was entered correctly?
Your sig picture is obnoxious.
Sig Pic is alright, just shrink it down a bunch
Finally got unlocked and flashed BAMF Evita, Sense 4.0 is awesome and now I know why everyone wants it. Crazy how so many small changes can make such a big difference.
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I've been running BAMF Evita and it is very impressive. I've noticed many improvements in the feel and speed of sense 4.0. Feels very fluid and fast. Been running Evita less than 24 hours and I'm sure as with all roms it will get smoother as it settles in. Must say that Joel is doing great work with this. Looks like the rezound community is going to be a great one with capable devs and many great themers and mods.
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I also prefer 4.0 vs 3.6. I have been running BAMFs 2.0 and I love it! Mine settled fast and I have no complaints! I will never go back to 3.6!
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I too run Sense 4 and obviously it has a few issues but so did Sense 3.6 when I first had it installed on the Rezound. I remember on my Thunderbolt running Sense 3.5 Based Roms and they had issues but the awesome developers here always seem to iron out the wrinkles. Honestly the only real issue currently is the Bluetooth only connecting to media. I'm on RezRom S4 1.0.1 right now and it has been the smoothest running of the Sense 4 Roms for me to date!
Just wanted to tell those who may be reluctant to try a different rom, its worth the work.
I can't wait to try it on the evo lte. Ill be finally free from touchwiz Never again....
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Just wanted to tell those who may be reluctant to try a different rom, its worth the work.
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yeah i agree newt has truly done an incredible job with this as he always does
agree
Sense 4.0 finally looks live a Launcher
I said the same thing when I finally got ics on my touchpad...on a tablet at least, it is very user friendly, and make for a fun exerience! as far as my evo 3d goes, im just gonna wait a few weeks till we get the official update.... I figure it has to happen really soon, because I am not sure when virgin is releasing their evo3d, but boost is releasing their evo design on the 31st, and their website says it will have 4.0.... There is no way in hell a boost or virgin HTC phone will get ics before sprint ones do
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Sense 4.0 finally looks live a Launcher
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I love it. If you're rooted try out myn's RLS2, it really is nice and smooth.
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I love it. If you're rooted try out myn's RLS2, it really is nice and smooth.
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I was running it today and it was pretty good, I'm looking forward to warm four dot zero. 3.6 has amazing battery life and sense 4 has fluidity and a new taste. I'm not a fan of 3.0 with ics, but that battery life is amazing. I got about 10 hours before I got to 10% and I'm a pretty heavy user (a lot of Facebook and Voxer over 3g). Usually my phone would last 8 or 7 hours before it died.
yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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they are just playing fair with other manufacturers - otherwise moto would make all nexus's and samsung/htc/lg/etc. would all moan about it
Ics hit like the new coke on the street cause the evo ed forums jumpin again lol
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I'm not using a Sense 4.0 ROM (using CleanROM atm), but you are right -- it's like a whole new phone with ICS. I was considering upgrading to a different phone just out of sheer phone boredom, but this ICS has shown me the 3D is still viable for a lot longer.
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yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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The Nexus is ok at best, I've tried it and can honestly say that the SII, 3D, and even Note feel more comfortable for usability. Sure, the stock ICS is fluid and is designed around the capabilities of the Nexus, but in the end, you're still playing with a black banana phone with a goofy curved screen.
Sense 4.0 is a huge change over 3.6. If you haven't tried newts Rom do it. 3d and 4g aren't working but you really won't miss them. Although I am surprised that no one has ported the EVO 4g LTE Rom to our device yet. It would be nice to have a full cmda sense 4.0 Rom.
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nandroide said:
yeah but you will never be free of sense... i'm getting the nexus **** htc, motorola, and any other piece of **** manufacturer out there. although samsung makes the nexus... which is weird since google owns motorola mobility.. ahh i don't understand! Lol
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I think it's pretty simple to be free from Sense if that's your preference... get a different phone and stop complaining.
Most people that buy HTC do so because they like Sense UI, above all other factory UI variations... Sense 4 is the best one yet. TouchWiz, MotoBlur, and everything else don't even compare.
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Sense 4.0 is a huge change over 3.6. If you haven't tried newts Rom do it. 3d and 4g aren't working but you really won't miss them. Although I am surprised that no one has ported the EVO 4g LTE Rom to our device yet. It would be nice to have a full cmda sense 4.0 Rom.
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Totally agree newt one s was pure sexy. Loved it but had to go back to 3.6 because I need my bluetooth talk driving company vehicle. Can't wait till the 4g lte Roms hit. Sense 3.6 is a nice improvement from our 3.0 but 4.0 is superb.
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Once ICS comes out officially, what do you guys think the chances are of having a fully functional ICS Sense 4.0 rom? I'm new to HTC and Sense and aren't really sure how complicated it would be to port it to the EVO 3D.
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Once ICS comes out officially, what do you guys think the chances are of having a fully functional ICS Sense 4.0 rom? I'm new to HTC and Sense and aren't really sure how complicated it would be to port it to the EVO 3D.
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There already is one.
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Once ICS comes out officially, what do you guys think the chances are of having a fully functional ICS Sense 4.0 rom? I'm new to HTC and Sense and aren't really sure how complicated it would be to port it to the EVO 3D.
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I'd say the chances are very good... like 99% chance that there will be a Sense 4.0 ROM that has everything working.
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There already is one.
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No there isn't!
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tyler.durden said:
I think it's pretty simple to be free from Sense if that's your preference... get a different phone and stop complaining.
Most people that buy HTC do so because they like Sense UI, above all other factory UI variations... Sense 4 is the best one yet. TouchWiz, MotoBlur, and everything else don't even compare.
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Not true at all. Opinions are not facts. He felt I'll show you, "most people who buy htc phones do so for the hardware specs, they don't even like sense or know what it is"
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Hi,I like so much Galaxy S3,but for mt HTC sense is the best UI for smartphone!
There is some possibility that GS3 will have a porting of the HTC sense?
[fortune-telling ball]
maybe, someday
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and so it begins
inb4 buy One X
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If you want sense buy a one X
Once I get my Sense Note ported It might be able to be ported from Note --> S3.
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Once I get my Sense Note ported It might be able to be ported from Note --> S3.
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But even if you can get it ported to the Note (actually your "friend's" do this), you have to start from the beginning here as it's another hardware. ->processor
Ansem said:
Hi,I like so much Galaxy S3,but for mt HTC sense is the best UI for smartphone!
There is some possibility that GS3 will have a porting of the HTC sense?
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it's a joke?
why you bought Samsung if you want HTC Sense!
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it's a joke?
why you bought Samsung if you want HTC Sense!
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Simple: Sense 4 wins over TW. But, removable battery and sdcard slot win over the one x's non removable battery and no slot.
If sense can be ported, it'd be win win..since you cant exactly mod a onex to have the battery + sdcard capabilities.
I'm using sense right now and its terrible compared to touchwiz. Just more give it a little time it will grow on you and it will be way more functional than sense.
ilbulgaro89 said:
it's a joke?
why you bought Samsung if you want HTC Sense!
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It's called personal preference....he prefers the hardware of the Samsung but the UI of Sense. Why does everyone always question why the next man wants or does something? The fact that can even do this kind of stuff is awesome, embrace it. Could have an iPhone and be stuck with nothing more than themes.
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Simple: Sense 4 wins over TW. But, removable battery and sdcard slot win over the one x's non removable battery and no slot.
If sense can be ported, it'd be win win..since you cant exactly mod a onex to have the battery + sdcard capabilities.
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One more simple thing...touchwiz is better than sense
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One more simple thing...touchwiz is better than sense
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So that's why ppl are still trying to port a sense Rom on GS1?
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So that's why ppl are still trying to port a sense Rom on GS1?
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Ok gs1? That is crap touchwiz and so old, can't believe you even mentioned that here. Now its so much better. Do you even have the sgs3 or just trolling here?
Even sense was crap to start with and every iteration it improves. In my opinion touchwiz is much smoother. Ok i will give the weather widget to sense.
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wait. am i reading this correctly..sense (barf) on galaxy s3..oh my goodness
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Ok gs1? That is crap touchwiz and so old, can't believe you even mentioned that here. Now its so much better. Do you even have the sgs3 or just trolling here?
Even sense was crap to start with and every iteration it improves. In my opinion touchwiz is much smoother. Ok i will give the weather widget to sense.
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Not trolling mate. Stating facts...
GS1.
GS2.
And now requests on GS3.
I do have a GS3. It's being used by one of my employees.
But I use my HOX for personal use.
I'm loving sense 4 and fortunately my unit is fault free.
And I agree. Weather and sense flip clock widget are nice.
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Not trolling mate. Stating facts...
GS1.
GS2.
And now requests on GS3.
I do have a GS3. It's being used by one of my employees.
But I use my HOX for personal use.
I'm loving sense 4 and fortunately my unit is fault free.
And I agree. Weather and sense flip clock widget are nice.
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Cool man...think doesn't hurt to have choice. It's all personal preference on which one is better.
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I'm looking to get Sense on the galaxy s3 as well, if worse comes to worse I'm sure I could look at developing a custom sense launcher
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I'm looking to get Sense on the galaxy s3 as well, if worse comes to worse I'm sure I could look at developing a custom sense launcher
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That would be nice and I'm sure a lot of people are waiting for that.
Tbh I think a good clean aosp build would be better, the Samsung firmware right now is based on IMM76D, aosp is on IMM76L and contains some of the linaro optimisations and we could do with that. Its the latest code available.
Sense would be nice but a nice clean unbloated aosp rom would be my main priority.
Sense= bloated but nice theme/colors
Like it more then aosp, doubt sense would run good but I would try it just for fun
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I would like to se Sense on the S3 to.
I always had HTC Phones before and this year I bought the S3, my first Samsung.
The first thing I noted with Touchwiz was, that I can´t make Shortcuts to
Direct Dial, Direct Message, etc.
That was so easy with my Sense 3,5.
Maybe I just dont know how to use Touchwis.. But I prefer Sense.