As for Sony 2011 Android phones, the 3.5mm is not compatible with almost all normal 3.5mm headset (headset, not headphone, headphone works fine while most headset can't be recognized - when it can't be recognized, it cannot be used for phone calls nor listening music) I can only manage to work with the in-box head set. Even Sony's own headset does not work
So has the Xperia S fixed this issue?
danlai said:
As for Sony 2011 Android phones, the 3.5mm is not compatible with almost all normal 3.5mm headset (headset, not headphone, headphone works fine while most headset can't be recognized - when it can't be recognized, it cannot be used for phone calls nor listening music) I can only manage to work with the in-box head set. Even Sony's own headset does not work
So has the Xperia S fixed this issue?
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Yes, the Xperia S uses the same 3.5 as the iPhone (and thus most headsets).
danlai said:
As for Sony 2011 Android phones, the 3.5mm is not compatible with almost all normal 3.5mm headset (headset, not headphone, headphone works fine while most headset can't be recognized - when it can't be recognized, it cannot be used for phone calls nor listening music) I can only manage to work with the in-box head set. Even Sony's own headset does not work
So has the Xperia S fixed this issue?
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I am sorry, but I barely understand your problem. Sony Ericsson phones, so up to 2011 (Arc, Arc S, Ray, Play, Neo, X10, Mini Pro, etc.) use 3.5mm jack using OMTP standard. New Xperia line from 2012 (Sony branded phones - Xperia S, P and U) use CTIA standard of 3.5mm jack (same as iPhone). So headset (with mic) from 2011 phone won't fully work with Sony Xperia from 2012, and headset from Sony Xperia S (2012) won't fully work on phone from 2011.
By fully work I mean, you possibly won't be able to use button to redial, or skip tracks in media player, possibly problems with sound as well. So there is no issue Sony has to fix.
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I am sorry, but I barely understand your problem. Sony Ericsson phones, so up to 2011 (Arc, Arc S, Ray, Play, Neo, X10, Mini Pro, etc.) use 3.5mm jack using OMTP standard. New Xperia line from 2012 (Sony branded phones - Xperia S, P and U) use CTIA standard of 3.5mm jack (same as iPhone). So headset (with mic) from 2011 phone won't fully work with Sony Xperia from 2012, and headset from Sony Xperia S (2012) won't fully work on phone from 2011.
By fully work I mean, you possibly won't be able to use button to redial, or skip tracks in media player, possibly problems with sound as well. So there is no issue Sony has to fix.
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Oh so I don't understand Sony decision about using a different standard on 2011 devices. Now I stick with the headset comes in the box for my ray, or use bluetooth. I hope I can use my beats headset after the ICS upgrade for my ray.
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danlai said:
Oh so I don't understand Sony decision about using a different standard on 2011 devices. Now I stick with the headset comes in the box for my ray, or use bluetooth. I hope I can use my beats headset after the ICS upgrade for my ray.
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That was an Ericsson decision I think - Sony themselves made CTIA headsets for the iDevices.
I do not think your beats headset will work on the Ray, as I *believe* it's hardware, not software. Otherwise, anyone with a custom ROM on the SE phones could have used the CTIA headsets.
Just received my Xperia play. The sound seems abnormal, muffled, no bass at all. Mine didn't come with earphones. Tried several earphones and headphones but saw no difference. What might be the problem?
I'm able to use all the headset functions from my HTC Desire Z headset (2010) on my Xperia P (2012)
I haven't tried on any 2011 devices though.
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SE seems to like those proprietary headphone sockets anyone know of a converter so we can use HTC/iPhone style headphones with mic?
My trusty skullcandy headset lies suddenly idle, and the SE headset is not the best headset i've tried.
the xperia mini have 3.5 audio jack, iPhone headset microphone might not work but you can listen to music on it still.
now the older lower ends se phones have the proprietary that your talking about with 3.5 jack on the other end.
correct me if I'm missing the point
The sk17 will only accept se style mic headsets, normal sound only headsets works fine. There are tons of nice headsets with mic that works in htc, samsung and iphone alike, so it's sad that se once again went with their own connection type
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oooohhh ic i never notice this bc i never use wired ones anymore just the stereo bluetooth ones. the ones that comes with the box never fits in the ear. i can only use the in ear buds.
but if you really appreciate music and sound the blue tooth still isn't better than hardwires no matter how much they cost it's just not possible.
nice heads up
i dont like those earbuds there horrible, i tried my iphone earphones (the ones with the volume keys and answer button) and it cam up with an error, i cant remember exactly what the error was. then the sound only comes out the speaker
hopefully someone might make a mod or hack that lets us use other earphones
luckily in india they bundle SE mini pro with a good inear ear phones .
try other normal 3.5 mm head set it should work fine , because AFAIK its iphone who have special jack , and not sony thats why the iphone one's dont work well.
iPhone has special plug yeah, but HTC and Samsung uses the same plug, so my Skullcandy FMJ's work flawlessly in my Galaxy tab, but not in my Mini pro (which is a lot easier to have in the pocket)
I believe alle we need is a small converter as i read somewhere (engadget i think) that Sony would be coming with a set of headphones for iphone/htc/samsung, that would work with the Xperia line through a converter cable bundled in the package.
So hopefully we'll find these on ebay soon!
Buy Koss and never look back
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Don't think it'll solve the problem of not having a mic on the cable.
Untill something with a mic comes out, i'll just stick with my Sony MDR-NC60.
Try the MW600 - the sounds is very close to wired. Unless I am in a silent room I can't tell the difference between my MW600 on direct wired connection on my U20i.
I saw those a few days ago, and i've been considering them, but i''ll love to avoid another powersucker connected to my phone..
Anyone by any chance have the MH700 lying around and able to test them? They list the Arc and Ray as compatible phones, so should work with the Mini Pro, but would love a confirmation before i spend ~40$ on them.
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/mh700?cc=gb&lc=en#view=overview
They also list the x10 Mini Pro as compatible... if you still have the headset from your old Mini Pro, see if it will work with the new one. If it does, then the MH700 should work, too. Keep us posted, I'm curious about this as well.
dave
Thats a good idea, i'll see if i can dig em up, but i think my brother has em, and he's not really close by... but i think i got a work mate with the x10 mini aswell. I'll report bag as soon as i've testet.
edit: Just remembered the x10min got a special jack for the remote part, and wont fit in a normal 3.5mm jack
I don't remember what the extra jack on the x10 minipro was for, but the included headset didn't require it.
I can confirm that the headset from my old minipro also works with the new minipro and the remote button is fully functional... so, the MH700 headset *should* work, also.
dave
ak-a said:
Try the MW600 - the sounds is very close to wired. Unless I am in a silent room I can't tell the difference between my MW600 on direct wired connection on my U20i.
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I got a MW600, but I find that it is not fully compatible with my xperia mini pro (SK17), indeed, before I had a c905 and there was information on the MW600 screen (like the hour when no music and the title of the music when playing). On my fast test on my xperia mini pro(SK17) those informations were not onscreen.
I feel your paid, My Apple headphones wouldn't work properly. Hell, SE's stock headset doesn't work with iPod/iPhone either.
A way to use those headsets/headphones is to plug it in incorrectly, like not all the way in, mess with it and you will eventually get clear sound but this is only for output sound, not for mic.
What I have also noticed is that if I press and hold the talk button or the center button, the sound goes through but who the hell wants to hold a button in order to listen to music? No one of course. If you plug it in all the way, chances are you will get a "incompatible assesory" error, either that or you will get really bad, low depth sound without holding the button.
It's basically SE's way of being like Apple, with Apples USB charging cable, etc.
Either way, the SE Xperia Mini Pro SK17a's stock headphones (whatever the model number is, does anyone still have it?) is good enough for me though.
Probably not for anyone else in the world
btw i need a few posts before posting in dev forum,
got a xperia mini pro,
i modded hpm-77 to 3.5 mm jack
not joke
just the wiring needed to be connected, everything works as the stock earphones
in the next post i attach a pic
not the nicest but it works
Nice work!
I recently found out it's the wiring that's just wonky on iphone/ipod, but because they have such a big marketshare almost every major headphone maker, makes their headsets iphone/ipod compatible.
I found this adaptor http://www.amazon.co.uk/FiiO-adapte...MQ1Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322052355&sr=8-1 that should make using iphone/ipod compatible headphones work on the Xperia line (and a couple of others), it has been dispatched from amazon today, so should have it end of this week or early next week. I'll report back about functionality.
Just received the adapter, and it works flawlessly!
My SkullCandy iphone headset now works with my Xperia Mini Pro, and damn what an improvement over the stock headset!
Hi, guys!
I'm new in the Mini section. I've been using X10 Mini for almost an year, but now I'm with a Xperia Mini 2011.
In the past I was using MH810 handsfree and it was having a pretty nice sound, sound remote control on the wire, but it is incompatible with the Mini.
So which handsfree with sound remote control is compatible with the Mini? Only SE Live Sound or there are others?
Thanks in advance for the info!
The 2011 xperia line uses a diferent type of protocol for the 3,5mm connector that's why other headsets are incompatible. I think that your only choices are the models released by Sony Ericsson i.e. Livesound.
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I currently have Sony MW600, Hi-Fi Wireless Headset, works via Bluetooth, quality is good enough, costs also less than LiveSound, also has remote control buttons Play/Pause, Next/Previous and volume.
But what you mean, that is incompatible with Mini? Just give it a try, according to me, you have nothing to lose...
The 3.5 mm jacks of the X10 Mini and the Xperia Mini are different - that's why they're incompatible and the wonderful MH810 handsfree cannot work on the Xperia Mini.
What about putting a 3.5 mm jack on to a HPM 82 handsfree instead of the fast-connector - will it work?
I'm asking because MH1 Livesound is not being sold in Bulgaria, so I should order it from amazon.uk maybe.
What do you mean, that does not work? No sound or controls don't work or what?
Take a look in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1229622
summary: buy the gadget linked there and get any iphone compatible headset you want.
Someguyfromhell, I mean the jacks are DIFFERENT!!! Why don't you look at them in Google? Why should you ask that questions, as I have already explained that twice?!
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The 3.5 mm jacks of the X10 Mini and the Xperia Mini are different
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It's not directly the phone, that has different jack. Both have 3.5mm jacks, it doesn't make any difference at all.
The headset has additional part, which is...I have no idea, what for. Probably additional functions from the remote control.
One way would be to try getting rid of this additional chip thing, if you are willing to take that risk.
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It's not directly the phone, that has different jack. Both have 3.5mm jacks, it doesn't make any difference at all.
The headset has additional part, which is...I have no idea, what for. Probably additional functions from the remote control.
One way would be to try getting rid of this additional chip thing, if you are willing to take that risk.
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Why do u continue with that stupid... suggestions?! Getting rid of the additional contact-strips will make the remote control of the handsfree completely useless and I will not be able to recieve calls, or sell the handsfree to some X10 Mini owner.
Even Nokia headsets work with Xperia mini, i was shocked to see old nokia headset to be working with my st15i, button, microphone, everything.
If you want really good sound - buy big , normal headphones.
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Even Nokia headsets work with Xperia mini, i was shocked to see old nokia headset to be working with my st15i, button, microphone, everything.
If you want really good sound - buy big , normal headphones.
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I've tried Nokia headphones a few days ago, they did have remote control for the music player on the wire, but... they didn't worked with the mini. Or at least the remote control didn't. There was sound, but no control over it. Maybe because they were a cheap Chinese copy.
I found my old X1 lead, it has a socket on the mic for use with any headphones
Also old SE HPM-80 in ear headphones are good
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Yep, they're like HPM 82 with display on the remote control, but with a fastport again. I'll try to solder a 3.5mm jack to a HPM 82 handsfree (to replace the fastport), but I may not succeed because there are 8 or 9 cables out of the wire and only 4 holes to solder them on the 3.5mm jack...
using easy sennheiser headphones, awesome for less money
I've got second hand Sony Ericsson MH1 for half price. Not so special, good sound, not better than the old HPM-82 or MH810 for example. And the lack of a clip for hanging on the neck piece is obviously a disadvantage! The free is constantly slipping down and pulling the ears - very annoying!
The lack of separate buttons for changing the music tracks is also a disadvantage - music tracks are changed with continuous pressing the volume buttons of the handsfree's remote control, not with separate buttons like on the HPM-82 or MH810. But it seems that this is due to the 3.5mm jack cable-number connectivity limitation. The MH810 has some additional ports on the side of the 3.5mm jack, which allow it to have more buttons on the remote control, while MH1 doesn't have them on the jack.
guys i've been looking for budget headphones that would fit in xperia mini's jack
i don't know if it would help but i tried couple of nokia headphones that worked with the device along with the samsung corby pro's stock stock headphones and they all worked currently im considering buying
MEElectronics M9-SL
or the
iLuv iEP322BLK citylights
but i don't know if any of those is compatible with the xperia mini anyway so advice would be appreciated
Note:I just want music to my ears
Xperia Mini has regular 3.5 mm jack, so you can use any headphones(with 3.5mm jack) with the phone.
Mike201 said:
guys i've been looking for budget headphones that would fit in xperia mini's jack
i don't know if it would help but i tried couple of nokia headphones that worked with the device along with the samsung corby pro's stock stock headphones and they all worked currently im considering buying
MEElectronics M9-SL
or the
iLuv iEP322BLK citylights
but i don't know if any of those is compatible with the xperia mini anyway so advice would be appreciated
Note:I just want music to my ears
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Nokia's garbages work on SE Xperias, play sound, but only that - their music control buttons doesn't.
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Nokia's garbages work on SE Xperias, play sound, but only that - their music control buttons doesn't.
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I wont buy any sony's earphones or use the ones that came with the device cos those are just crap
actually i'm now considering one of the following but don't know if they would work or not
1-MEElectronics M9
2-JVC Xtreme Xplosives FX1X
3-Koss KSC 75
4-SkullCandy Titan
5-iLuv iep322
i only found the iep322 and the titan in local stores however the titan is a bit expensive would be my last choice just before the iep322
Hi,
I have two headsets (stereo headphones + microphone) that I got with some Xperia phones.
when I plug it to Sony tablet S, sound is not good, it seems music is good but when it comes to words in song, it's so quiet and not understandable. When I press answer button on headset (the only one that is present on it) and hold it, sound is great.
I believe the mic is working but I'm not entirely sure because I don't know how good can I cover built in one while testing.
Simple stereo headphones work great.
This is strange to me because I thought this jack is standardized. And even if it isn't I use Sony Ericsson headsets with Sony tablet.
What can I do to make this work?
Do I need some kind of adapter or can something be done in software?
the strange thing is that I can hear everything just bad. so it couldn't be bad pinning or I wouldn't hear anything?
Thank you!
headset and headphones that work all three buttons & mic
- urbeats
- htc beats solo
- Sony smart headset
- Nocs NS200H-001
hi guys i think all of us are having this problem in xperia ray st18i, when i use some headsets it works pretty well but most of the headsets dont work on ray even though they are of the same 3.5mm jack. Whay is this happening and is there a fix for it ??
Suggest me some nice headsets that work on our phone cause my headset which came with my phone is lost
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hi guys i think all of us are having this problem in xperia ray st18i, when i use some headsets it works pretty well but most of the headsets dont work on ray even though they are of the same 3.5mm jack. Whay is this happening and is there a fix for it ??
Suggest me some nice headsets that work on our phone cause my headset which came with my phone is lost
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Ray compatible headset thread
I think only the 4pin jack is good for our ray.
Or buy a cheap adapter
I have the Xperia Z2 and my earphone model is the Sony MH EX300AP, although it sounds great, I cannot activate the noise cancelling feature built in. I understand that the this feature is only for the Sony MDR-NC31E , but is there anyway to get it for my earphones or is the feature only for the Sony MDR-NC31E?
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I have the Xperia Z2 and my earphone model is the Sony MH EX300AP, although it sounds great, I cannot activate the noise cancelling feature built in. I understand that the this feature is only for the Sony MDR-NC31E , but is there anyway to get it for my earphones or is the feature only for the Sony MDR-NC31E?
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The NC headphones are the only ones with the hardware capable of digital noise canceling
hence why it ONLY works with them
Yeah it wont work with any thing different until Sony releases a new pair.
the NC earphones have a 5 pins connector, while regular ones have only 4 pins connector
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the NC earphones have a 5 pins connector, while regular ones have only pins connector
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Xperia NC: 5
Stereo headset (w/ stereo mic): 4
Stereo headset: 3
Stereo earphones:2
Mono headset: 2
Mono earphones:1
Correct me if im wrong
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The NC headphones are the only ones with the hardware capable of digital noise canceling
hence why it ONLY works with them
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oh ok, thank you for clearing that up