I thought I'd start a thread to track battery usage patterns, to see if we can identify some consistent... well... patterns across Primes. This is NOT meant to be a complaint thread, but rather to simply indicate how much battery is used per hour for given use cases. I realize there are bound to be many variations (e.g., how often email syncs, how many accounts are syncing, how much Flash is running, etc.), so I'm looking to just see if people are having the same range of experiences in terms of battery life.
Note: I believe that there's still quite a bit of tweaking to be done on how the Tegra 3 manages processor states. I think it spends too much time at higher states for some things, particularly browsing.
This is what I've found to be fairly consistent. All results are on lowest screen brightness except where noted, Balanced mode, undocked, in good wifi range, and running .15.
1. Standby (with wifi connected and background sync running): .3%-.5%/hour.
2. Light use (ebook reading, email, calendar, task managers, etc.): 7.5%-10%/hour.
3. Video (e.g., HBO Go in the browser, YouTube, Netflix): 10%-15%/hour, with brightness at about 30%.
4. Browsing (with Flash on-demand and moderately used, stock browser): 15%/hour consistently. Includes apps that use the browser, such as Google Reader.
5. Gaming (pretty much any game, from Angry Birds to Shadowgun): 30%/hour consistently.
6. IPS+ Mode and full brightness, light use: 30%/hour. IPS+ mode is a killer, but worth it to me for sunlight visibility when I need it.
For me, battery use is quite acceptable across all use cases except browsing. It makes little sense to me that viewing video (with higher brightness to boot, and including video running in the browser) would use less battery life than browsing--perhaps they've charged up processor speeds when the browser runs to overcome some inherent performance issues with it?
If you've made note of any consistent battery usage patterns like this, please report them in this thread.
These results are consistent with my experience, probably closer to 20% on the browser %. I'm also surprised at how quickly the browser uses up my battery. I've tried using different browsers and have noticed no appreciable difference. I've also set everything to manual sync, except for Gmail. I use the balanced mode with screen brightness set to approx. 30%. I almost never use Flash when browsing.
Nobody else wants to weigh in?
wynand32 said:
I thought I'd start a thread to track battery usage patterns, to see if we can identify some consistent... well... patterns across Primes. This is NOT meant to be a complaint thread, but rather to simply indicate how much battery is used per hour for given use cases. I realize there are bound to be many variations (e.g., how often email syncs, how many accounts are syncing, how much Flash is running, etc.), so I'm looking to just see if people are having the same range of experiences in terms of battery life.
Note: I believe that there's still quite a bit of tweaking to be done on how the Tegra 3 manages processor states. I think it spends too much time at higher states for some things, particularly browsing.
This is what I've found to be fairly consistent. All results are on lowest screen brightness except where noted, Balanced mode, undocked, in good wifi range, and running .15.
1. Standby (with wifi connected and background sync running): .3%-.5%/hour.
2. Light use (ebook reading, email, calendar, task managers, etc.): 7.5%-10%/hour.
3. Video (e.g., HBO Go in the browser, YouTube, Netflix): 10%-15%/hour, with brightness at about 30%.
4. Browsing (with Flash on-demand and moderately used, stock browser): 15%/hour consistently. Includes apps that use the browser, such as Google Reader.
5. Gaming (pretty much any game, from Angry Birds to Shadowgun): 30%/hour consistently.
6. IPS+ Mode and full brightness, light use: 30%/hour. IPS+ mode is a killer, but worth it to me for sunlight visibility when I need it.
For me, battery use is quite acceptable across all use cases except browsing. It makes little sense to me that viewing video (with higher brightness to boot, and including video running in the browser) would use less battery life than browsing--perhaps they've charged up processor speeds when the browser runs to overcome some inherent performance issues with it?
If you've made note of any consistent battery usage patterns like this, please report them in this thread.
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Naturally I don't particularly want to screenshot my usage over an entire week or anything, but here are my general figures so far on update .15 with all my apps as I see it.
Again, I don't have anything backing it up and haven't done detailed analysis on battery drain since .13, but I generally get 3 days with varying use including hard gaming for short stints.
1. Standby (with wifi connected and background sync running): .3% (pretty consistent, but some times the Prime won't enter Deep Sleep which unmercifully consumes)
2. Light use (ebook reading, email, calendar, etc.): 5%/hour
3. Video (Netflix): 8%/hour, with brightness at about 10%
4. Browsing (with Flash always-on and moderately used, Opera Mobile): 15%/hour
5. Gaming (set to Performance, OC'd to 1.6 gHZ): 35%/hour
6. IPS+ Mode and full brightness, light use: 40%/hour
My tab wont deep sleep only when docked. Sometimes I lose 4% an hour sleeping while docked.. pathetic. When not docked I can see with battery monitor widget that I lose 1% every 8 hours
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My tab wont deep sleep only when docked. Sometimes I lose 4% an hour sleeping while docked.. pathetic. When not docked I can see with battery monitor widget that I lose 1% every 8 hours
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Mine goes into deep sleep when docked no problem, and standby usage remains about the same.
But, I don't want to derail this thread. It's about usage patterns when undocked, specifically to avoid throwing the dock into the mix as another variable.
Just wanted to resurrect this thread, and ask if anyone is having a problem where reported battery life drops by 2% periodically instead of 1%. Seems like there's a glitch either in how the system is reporting battery life.
See the attached pic... Notice 70% to 68% and 59% to 57%.
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Just wanted to resurrect this thread, and ask if anyone is having a problem where reported battery life drops by 2% periodically instead of 1%. Seems like there's a glitch either in how the system is reporting battery life.
See the attached pic... Notice 70% to 68% and 59% to 57%.
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It's not updating or syncing or something? Do you use a real-time monitoring widget, or multiple diagnostics apps? These things will tax the system here and there for their information won't they?
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It's not updating or syncing or something? Do you use a real-time monitoring widget, or multiple diagnostics apps? These things will tax the system here and there for their information won't they?
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I just use the Battery Drain app, and all it does is poll every minute to see what battery life is at. I suppose the app could be skipping a minute, but then I'd hope it would adjust and not report twice the usage/hour. And, I'm pretty sure I've caught the battery life dropping like that outside of the app.
Thing is that it's not just using more power per hour according to the app, but that it's dropping the 2%. Just a minor mystery...
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I noticed that with all I'm doing to save battery (GPS, Bluetooth, 3g off, brightness on the lowest setting in the browser and general) its not making much of a diference in my opinion. I even under clocked the cpu to 500mhz. All I want to do is webbrowse for an hour or so throughout the day and yet it seems to use more battery than I believe it needs to. I have about 35 minutes of display time and 10 minutes of web time and my phone has already lost 7%. This doesn't seem normal to me since I've lowered everything possible of the phone. Does web browsing use a lot of battery in general?
I typically use about 16-20% of battery for every 1 hour of screen time, so yeah your running about normal to a lower than normal drain level.
I try everything to save batterylife. Using the browser sadly is a good way to see your phone's battery life dissapear. Especially when browsing forums with white backgrounds.
I tend to agree with the other comments here. I usually see about 10% drain per hour of screen on when not doing anything data/processor intensive (i.e. reading an ebook) while my normal data is syncing in the background. I'd expect this to be improved if I turned data and radios off, but probably only by a percent or 2.
With more processor and data intensive stuff like browsing or watching movies, I would guess this would increase some. Extrapolating your data out would give you roughly 14% drain for an hour and 10 minutes of screen on with 20 minutes of browsing. Seems reasonable to me.
Hi all,
I love the Sony Tablet except its battery life. for something that is so huge compared to the others similar products out there, I am sure that they could have squeezed a bigger battery into the unit.
The power capacity is pretty weak. Let's hope that Sony offers a higher capacity battery size. I would gladly pay to upgrade it.
That's weird, my battery life is fantastic. If I play games on it all day it'll last 8-12 hours, but if I just use it intermittently and moderately it'll easily last me a couple of days. On standby it only uses a couple percent a day if that!
I'm the same as unclespoon. Even during heavy use, I get about 9 hours, which is way better than my old Galaxy Tab could ever muster. Standby usage is crazy low, its fantastic!
Not sure what you mean either about being larger than most other devices. The Tablet's 9.4" screen is smaller than almost any other full-size Tab out there (including the iPad) and since the back curves, theres not actually a lot of usable rear space (look at how thin its getting at the thin end, now imagine trying to fit a battery in there!)
I'm not sure you'll find a Tab out there currently with a better combo of size/battery life. The chunkier Toshiba Thrive will last longer, the thinner Galaxy Tab's will last even less, and my Tablet S always outlasts my iPad, so it might just be your device. Try checking Settings -> About -> Battery Use
I'm of the same opinion as the op. My tablet s has dreadful battery life and especially when it isn't doing anything. (50% usage is system standby) my old galaxy 7 was far far better (charged about once a week)
I believe this may just be because it is new (only have 1 full charge) as my galaxy s2 was initially unimpressive and then lasted 3 days of moderate use without charge. Hoping the same will happen to my s1.
Time will tell
My only guess was that you did a shoddy job of conditioning the battery. My old Galaxy Tab (the first 7" one) was hopeless, but when I replaced it, I conditioned the battery better and it was a bit better.
My Tablet S lasts for days and days and the standby usage is tiny. Check whats using your battery in the Battery Use screen and get back to us, we might be able to help..
I noticed advanced wifi lock was causing massive amounts of wakelocks (8 hours out of 10 according to the stats in settings/about).
betterbatterystats is not available via market but I am trying out the XDA APK now
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I noticed advanced wifi lock was causing massive amounts of wakelocks (8 hours out of 10 according to the stats in settings/about).
betterbatterystats is not available via market but I am trying out the XDA APK now
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I noticed that as well. If you have Advanced WiFi lock activated the tablet won't go into deep sleep mode, there of massive battery usage. I still have Advanced WiFi lock on my tablet, but only activate it when I need to download/update something that takes time. Otherwise I turn it off. It's not worth the battry drain.
Wow. Your battery life are fantastic. 9 hours? That's huge. I have not used my Sony Tablet till flat but given the rate of battery loss think maybe the most is about 5 hours which is similar to what many reviewers are saying.
Just can't imagine that those reviewers are so far out of the ball park compared to you guys. I am using juice defender Beta. Not to sure if its helping or not. But at least if I not using WiFi it shuts it off automatically.
My battery used to drain badly during standby. I found that the Friend Stream service was preventing the tab from sleeping. Killed the service a while ago and battery has been fantastic since. Pushed it to 3 days with light use. About 3 hrs of browsing and facebook. My battery level is at 68%, been off power for 20h40 mins, and used for about 4hrs today - facebooking, Internet browsing. Note that no specific conditioning was performed.
What are the settings that you have on your Tablet? Auto brightness, background sync turned off ?
how did you stop friendstream, and what the heck is it, did you just kill the process and it stayed dead? (sometimes as u know u kill process but it will come back).
Good question. What is the Android software revision now. My is Android 3.2.1 (revision 2)
I acutally just uninstalled the crap-app. nothing I use anyway. It is an app for facebook, twitter and other social networks. So just get rid of it. Uninstall and be happy
my bad. I confused the HTC name and Sony name.
Social Feed Reader was misbehaving. Once started it kept running... rather than dropping off to sleep (and into Cached Apps).
Something wasn't right so I force stopped it and it stayed dead.
An additional note - the Setup, Applications, Running Applications feature isn't 100%. Some background apps aren't displaying as running or Cached. Go figure.
So any special method to stop the social feed reader?
I'm getting those kinds of numbers on mostly auto brightness (and sometimes lower, at night), with background sync turned on, WiFi sleep policy set to default, and no battery monitoring or saving apps running. The only thing I did was single initial conditioning cycle and since then its been great.
Also note that software-decoded video files will take a lot more of your battery than the equivalent properly encoded file. I havent had any trouble with Social Feed Reader, but I never even set it up and judging by the many stories around here, I would uninstall it if you're worried about battery..
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My battery used to drain badly during standby. I found that the Friend Stream service was preventing the tab from sleeping. Killed the service a while ago and battery has been fantastic since. Pushed it to 3 days with light use. About 3 hrs of browsing and facebook. My battery level is at 68%, been off power for 20h40 mins, and used for about 4hrs today - facebooking, Internet browsing. Note that no specific conditioning was performed.
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good to know, thanks for sharing.
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I'm getting those kinds of numbers on mostly auto brightness (and sometimes lower, at night), with background sync turned on, WiFi sleep policy set to default, and no battery monitoring or saving apps running. The only thing I did was single initial conditioning cycle and since then its been great.
Also note that software-decoded video files will take a lot more of your battery than the equivalent properly encoded file. I havent had any trouble with Social Feed Reader, but I never even set it up and judging by the many stories around here, I would uninstall it if you're worried about battery..
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Hi, that's good to know. Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately think I screwed up the initial conditioning. so I guess I will have to live with the 5 hour battery of my Tablet.
Btw how do you do battery conditioning?
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So any special method to stop the social feed reader?
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In Setup, Applications, Running Services have a look at the awake time (listed on the right side) of the running processes. You'll note that system processes (the ones with the Android icon) have been awake since last boot.... but you might finds others that are as well. I noted Social Feed Reader showing high awake time and decided to nuke it. Simply click the offending app. You'll be given the option to stop the app... which is what I did. It's an app so doesn't restart once killed. Hope that helps...
Final thought: at the top right of the screen there's a 'Show cached processes' option.
The could be an offending app in there. Kill any installed app you suspect might be a problem and see if that helps.
my battery life is excellent.
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I know there are some people experience battery issues, but I've experienced none. Running on the latest build .15, This is after leaving it unplugged over night at 100% to then moderate use all day (Youtube, Email, Browser, Pinball, Sprinkle, Music, Camera, Video Cam).
I'm happy to say the least.
Cripes!!!
Is that with or without the keyboard attached?
Without Waiting for the price to drop a bit before I buy it, it will drop soon I'm sure.
The battery is so good on this thing it's not even an issue. I never check battery stats or anything like that.
Can go through a day no problem, always on performance mode.
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Is that with or without the keyboard attached?
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I am sure that that battery statistic includes plenty of standby time, since it is unlikely anyone would be playing pinball for 24 hours
I get similar battery life with my Prime. A day and a half or more with moderate use and normal downtime (like when I am sleeping). I am pretty sure I could leave this thing sitting in standby mode for weeks and still come back to it and find usable battery life remaining.
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The battery is so good on this thing it's not even an issue. I never check battery stats or anything like that.
Can go through a day no problem, always on performance mode.
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same here and i just plug it in when i get home.
On update .11 I was getting 2 1/2 days (tablet only) with the same moderate-heavy use, always-on WiFi. About 4 days on standby.
Update .14 I guess is doing better than .13, but I only get 2 days with tablet+dock and about the same usage as before. Haven't tested standby.
I've found battery life to go like this on .15, with auto brightness (which usually finds a good level for me) and Balanced battery setting:
1. Around .375%/hour on standby. That seems excellent to me, particularly considering that I keep wifi on and everything syncing in the background. I can't imagine getting better standby battery life unless I turned everything off, which I don't want to do. I like it that my Prime is up to date when I wake it up.
2. Around 7.5%/hour when doing things like ebook reading, VERY light browsing, etc. That also is excellent, meaning I can use the things for ebook reading for over 10 hours. Can't ask for more than that. Note that if I read outside in direct sunlight and Super IPS+ mode turns on, battery life is cut SIGNIFICANTLY. That's to be expected of course, and it's just as much of an impact as I imagined.
3. Around 15%/hour for heavier browsing, ebook reading, watching video, casual gaming, etc. That's a little less than I'd hoped, coming in at around 6.5 hours total.
4. Around 30%/hour for heavier gaming (e.g., Shadowgun). I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Seems like it's excessive, but then again this IS pretty intense gaming.
I can help these scores a bit if I run on Battery Saver mode, which will work for all but heavy gaming. Funny thing is, according to CPU Spy mine barely ever pushes 1300MHz or 1400MHz, no matter what mode its in. It spends most of it's time at 1200MH, in deep sleep, or in the lower (100MHz-400MHz) range. I wonder if Nvidia still has some tuning to be, and if performance and battery life can still be optimized a bit--it seems to spend TOO MUCH time at 1200MHz when that kind of speed doesn't seem necessary, and TOO LITTLE time at 1400MHz when that kind of speed would be helpful.
Wow! Great battery life OP. That guy named Ickii needs to see this thread. He created a thread on his prime getting bad battery life.
Same results here though. Great battery life in balanced mode and very heavy usage.
I am really starting to loose my patience with the prime, I have had it for a week now and its just been a very a difficult ride so far. Coming from the original iPad, I never had any problem with it. For some reason, I lost 20% of my battery just surfing the web last night, now I did not view any videos, I was just reading several online newpapers. 20% in an hour !!! what the hell is going on here.
Can sombody recommend me a decent battery monitoring app pleaase? otherwise, this thing is going back and then I will have to beg Apple to take me back.
How many things do you have syncing? Cutting down on that saved me a lot of drain. Also the app you use depends on what you're looking for.
Where's my Droid power seems quite useless on the prime
Better battery stats is good for finding apps with wakelocks
Current widget is good for tracking the current your tablet was using but I'm not sure if it works on he prime
Good luck!
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I am really starting to loose my patience with the prime, I have had it for a week now and its just been a very a difficult ride so far. Coming from the original iPad, I never had any problem with it. For some reason, I lost 20% of my battery just surfing the web last night, now I did not view any videos, I was just reading several online newpapers. 20% in an hour !!! what the hell is going on here.
Can sombody recommend me a decent battery monitoring app pleaase? otherwise, this thing is going back and then I will have to beg Apple to take me back.
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What brightness was your screen set to? Did you have SuperIPS turned on? 20% seems excessive but having the brightness cranked up can noticeably impact battery life, and using SuperIPS nearly triples the drain.
FWIW I keep my screen brightness to about 30% most of the time and I surf the web for about an hour or two a day and I have been getting 3-4 days of battery life or more. I leave the tablet turned on all the time as well, and last night after 3 days I plugged it in because the battery had finally reached 50%.
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I am really starting to loose my patience with the prime, I have had it for a week now and its just been a very a difficult ride so far. Coming from the original iPad, I never had any problem with it. For some reason, I lost 20% of my battery just surfing the web last night, now I did not view any videos, I was just reading several online newpapers. 20% in an hour !!! what the hell is going on here.
Can sombody recommend me a decent battery monitoring app pleaase? otherwise, this thing is going back and then I will have to beg Apple to take me back.
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My Battery Drain Analyzer is good if you want to see an ongoing indication of how much battery is being drained per hour. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.WazaBe.android.BatteryDrain&feature=search_result
However, in order to characterize your battery use as good or bad, we'd need to know the brightness you were at (as others have mentioned), whether you're running Flash on the sites you were visiting, what performance mode you have the Prime running in, etc. Too many variables.
I'll add that it's difficult to compare an iOS device and an Android device in terms of battery use, because the Android device is likely doing much more in the background. There's a tradeoff between functionality and battery life (and between functionality and simplicity, etc.), and of course in such an equation Apple ALWAYS opts for reduced functionality. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's definitely Apple's approach and has to be factored into any comparison.
I do burn about 15%/hour when browsing, on 30% brightness or so and in Balanced performance mode. I've found the Prime to be excellent in battery use everywhere BUT browsing--video about 10%/hour, email/ebook reading/etc. bout 7.5%/hour, etc.
Thank you all for your comments. My brightness level is set to 20% and gps, bluetooth all set to off. I am now using auto airplane mode app and it has significantly improved the battery life. I am also now using a fantastic app called android assistant and i spotted services that were running like google+ and google voice search which were consuming a significant portion from my battery.
Links for apps i mentioned:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.advancedprocessmanager&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...vbS5ibG9nc3BvdC5kb25rdW4zLmF1dG9haXJwbGFuZSJd
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The best battery monitoring tool I've found is Battery Monitor Widgit.
And I would highly recommend Tasker over any app that is dedicated to turning a single function on or off. If, that is, you are willing to learn to set it up. You can do things like have it set screen brightness to max when you start YouTube and set it back down to your preferred setting when you exit YouTube, turn WiFi or GPS on or off based on certain criteria, etc, etc, etc.
A simple free alternative to Tasker that I use is AutomateIt. The most rules are set on my phone to turn antennas on/off and manipulate volumes while I'm at work, driving, or at the gym. If you're looking to do more complex thing, Tasker is probably the better alternative.
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The best battery monitoring tool I've found is Battery Monitor Widgit.
And I would highly recommend Tasker over any app that is dedicated to turning a single function on or off. If, that is, you are willing to learn to set it up. You can do things like have it set screen brightness to max when you start YouTube and set it back down to your preferred setting when you exit YouTube, turn WiFi or GPS on or off based on certain criteria, etc, etc, etc.
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+1 for tasker, make life very easy once you set it up....
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The best battery monitoring tool I've found is Battery Monitor Widgit.
And I would highly recommend Tasker over any app that is dedicated to turning a single function on or off. If, that is, you are willing to learn to set it up. You can do things like have it set screen brightness to max when you start YouTube and set it back down to your preferred setting when you exit YouTube, turn WiFi or GPS on or off based on certain criteria, etc, etc, etc.
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Thanks for the tip about Android Assistant. It seems very useful!
However I would get rid of Auto Airplane mode, you don't need it.
Instead go into "Settings > Wifi > Advanced (top right menu)" and change the "Keep WiFi on when asleep" setting to "only when plugged-in (recommended)" or "never."
What this does is that any time the screen is off, but you are not currently downloading a file or app, the WiFi will be suspended until you turn the screen back on.
You can turn GPS off from the settings if you never plan on using it, and it doesn't make sense having an extra app running in the background that just duplicates functionality already found in the OS.
Having purchased the mate 10 pro back in march i was expecting a good 6hrs of SOT. However i have only managed to hit that once in 3 months. I have done multiple factory resets and investigated what was wrong using accubattery with little to no success. In fact i have found something odd. I get better battery life charging to 90% then 100%(how odd right?). From 100 to 20 i get about 3hrs 45mins to 4 hrs of screen on time. I get a similar amount if not more if I charge to 90 and let it drain to 20. ( usually around 4hrs SOT) I have thought about taking back to the carrier and fixing it but i cant be bothered waiting 2 weeks for them to probably not find anything wrong and returning it back. The model is BLA-L09 8.0.0.134(C34). Im gonna try using a different carrier to see if its a carrier problem even though i consistently get full bars of signal. Anyone else get such crap battery life or is it just me. Im hoping future updates like gpu turbo will rectify this problem and improve efficiency. Check my accubattery stats in the link below. Usage is normal web browsing, messnger, fb, youtube. All background apps disabled. Location wifi scanning off.
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I don't know when or who began the SOT fever, but it's not a very reliable way of measuring battery life across users and devices.
I can squeeze 4h maybe a bit more depending on the day, and people consider it bad, well in my former phone I would be happy if I'd get 3.
But I don't disable any radios, I don't set the screen brightness to the lowest value possible when it's just bearly readable and I don't care about apps running on the background, actually I've every kind of aggressive battery management disabled.
I stream a lot on YT, Netflix and from my cloud drivers, when the screen is of I'm probably still streaming some kind of audio (be it podcast, spotify or YouTube), all this mostly via 4G and connected to Bluetooth headsets.
I have seen a lot of claims that the Kirin 970 isn't as efficient as it's counterpart (SD835 and 845), but haven't found any test backing up this claim, neither have I been able to test it.
What I noticed is that the Mate drains quite a lot of battery on standby compared to other phones, makes me think that the modem isn't very efficient, because the kernel goes through the right cycles of sleep and wake (doze maintenance windows) when in standby.
Having the phone connected to WiFi while on airplane mode improved my battery consumption quite a lot, if your carrier supports vowifi you can try it.
But having a charger that can charge enough of the battery in a bit, I don't even care in saving battery tbh.
7-8h here regularly with most of 4g,ive never seen less than 6h.
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I don't know when or who began the SOT fever, but it's not a very reliable way of measuring battery life across users and devices.
I can squeeze 4h maybe a bit more depending on the day, and people consider it bad, well in my former phone I would be happy if I'd get 3.
But I don't disable any radios, I don't set the screen brightness to the lowest value possible when it's just bearly readable and I don't care about apps running on the background, actually I've every kind of aggressive battery management disabled.
I stream a lot on YT, Netflix and from my cloud drivers, when the screen is of I'm probably still streaming some kind of audio (be it podcast, spotify or YouTube), all this mostly via 4G and connected to Bluetooth headsets.
I have seen a lot of claims that the Kirin 970 isn't as efficient as it's counterpart (SD835 and 845), but haven't found any test backing up this claim, neither have I been able to test it.
What I noticed is that the Mate drains quite a lot of battery on standby compared to other phones, makes me think that the modem isn't very efficient, because the kernel goes through the right cycles of sleep and wake (doze maintenance windows) when in standby.
Having the phone connected to WiFi while on airplane mode improved my battery consumption quite a lot, if your carrier supports vowifi you can try it.
But having a charger that can charge enough of the battery in a bit, I don't even care in saving battery tbh.
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i never used to care about SOT either but upon watching utubers like uravg consumer and Mr mobile and other say they easily last the day with 60-70% remaining makes me annoyed that my mate 10 pro cant do that. Also reading through the battery forums where people are getting 6-8hrs makes me frustrated that i cant similar mileage.
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7-8h here regularly with most of 4g,ive never seen less than 6h.[/QU
do u have accubattery installed? what does the discharge rate say? My discharging speed currently is 529ma and this usually reaches 600. 4000/600=6.5hrs of continue use. Im never gonna get that because theres also standby battery usage.
PS: HOPE that croatia wins tonight!!! ( 1am in australia we always get ****ty broadcast times)
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On average I have 6-7 hours with very intensive use and moderate use of 9 -10 hours, I had never had a phone with which I was carefree of the battery. I have the c432 version. 145
ed0214 said:
i never used to care about SOT either but upon watching utubers like uravg consumer and Mr mobile and other say they easily last the day with 60-70% remaining makes me annoyed that my mate 10 pro cant do that. Also reading through the battery forums where people are getting 6-8hrs makes me frustrated that i cant similar mileage.
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Makes you wonder what they (and others) classify as intensive use.
Mr. Mobile also claims that he didn't felt let down by the 300ah battery on the G7 thinq, it would last him a busy day till the night.
Well it lasts me from 7am to noon before I'm reaching the lows 30%, depending on the day.
Here is the thing, what someone may consider "intensive use" might just be light use compared to your usage.
Someone that says "oh but I'm playing like more than 1h a day", well this person might have the phone on auto brightness (and the Mate chooses a level that falls loweer than what I would want), several radios turned off and he/she might be playing a not so gpu and cpu intensive game, in the mean while if I'm streaming 1h of youtube I know the hit on the battery will be dramatic, 4G radio and BT always on, screen on a higher than average brightness and I might even be doing something else on the phone (either using PiP or dual-window).
Unless there is an app crashing you battery, something that's easy to spot, it might just be that your usage is just more demanding that others.
The only variable that you don't have a control is indeed the network coverage, the leaser the coverage the more battery your phone will use, and if your network is based on lower frequency bands, your phone might be working a bit higher indeed to talk to the tower.
As for your mention of GPUturbo, it will automatically oberclock the gpu when in a demanding game, I'll suppose it might have a slightly negative impact on the battery, but it doesn't need to be this way, and if it is, you'll only notice it while playing a graphics intensive game.
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By all means I'm not trying to discredit those or any other reviewer, but I put my questions mark if the totally unscientific "in my use" measuring should be the only kind of information we get from them.
This will sound pretty familiar to anyone who watched any phone review: "in my use with browsing, some calls, music stream and emailing I get X hours of use"
And I'm like okay, but how many minutes of calls? Over what network (wifi, 4g, 3g...), Speakerphone, regular call or wired headsets, what Browser and how long, screen brightness, etc etc etc ..
Even if you try to be consistent it's difficult, I know for a fact that in winter I get more battery life out of my phones due the simple reason that the days are shorter and darker in general.
If you are testing a Key2 you'd be expending less time playing games or watching content, just because the form factor pushes you off doing those tasks.
I think those reviewers should move towards more consistent testing found in more classic reviews, providing a consistent environment for testing, like measuring the phones brightness to test how much battery something like X time of video playback takes. There are even automated tests that you could run a few you'll get a score at the end.
I'm not really sure why y'all get such bad battery life, I have all my apps set to manual monitoring none automatically launch unless I tell them to it only certain ones they running in the background. I don't need every notification every second, so that definitely helps GPS is turned off, Bluetooth always on connected to my Android Wear, Spotify three to five hours per day average over Bluetooth, PBA bowling for about an hour a day, camera wanted to pictures a day if I'm in the mood to take pictures of my car, and regular everything else phone calls texts checking Instagram Snapchat Etc
ed0214 said:
do u have accubattery installed? what does the discharge rate say? My discharging speed currently is 529ma and this usually reaches 600. 4000/600=6.5hrs of continue use. Im never gonna get that because theres also standby battery usage.
PS: HOPE that croatia wins tonight!!! ( 1am in australia we always get ****ty broadcast times)
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NO i don't,don't have need for that. I just look at battery stats in settings occasionally.
Working days,house-caffe bar-office and vice versa,4G/WiFi,auto brightness,3 emails sync,twitter,whatsapp,viber,LINE,Vikings(battery hog game). Around 8h of sot. Give or take 30min.
Working days,traveling,4G only.weaker signal,all other the same....6-7h of SOT.
Weekends home WiFi....playing games and lurking on twitter. 9/10h of SOT.
Bummer for the game
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NO i don't,don't have need for that. I just look at battery stats in settings occasionally.
Working days,house-caffe bar-office and vice versa,4G/WiFi,auto brightness,3 emails sync,twitter,whatsapp,viber,LINE,Vikings(battery hog game). Around 8h of sot. Give or take 30min.
Working days,traveling,4G only.weaker signal,all other the same....6-7h of SOT.
Weekends home WiFi....playing games and lurking on twitter. 9/10h of SOT.
Bummer for the game
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What percentage of the battery does your screen and phone idle take up under hardware?
There's a battery thread in this subforum i believe I've put all my screens there
First of all: you are a victim of your own mind. I study behavioral economics atm and one big implication is that a lot of judgments are based on a reference point that is initially set when you first receive information about something. You watching all these ridiculous "reviews" anchored the magic 8h sot in your head. now you will always compare your numbers to that. or other high numbers. and be disappointed. huawei did not understand yet that it is not enough to make a quick sale by exaggerating specs but long term customer satisfaction.
I only get like 4-5h of sot too (in a period of 24h). I think its great coming from an s8+. The iphone 7 of my gf gets like 1.5h sot in 8h usage lol
I think you should not focus on numbers. battery is dependent on too many factors. (your screenshots about charging to 100 or 90% are pretty useless). rather should you think about "is it enough for what i need it every day?".
i play pubg mobile on max brightness quite a bit lately some arcades mostly, full matches on my ipad (20-40min/day), watch some youtube but i dont have any social media apps besides twitter installed, though i use instagram in chrome. i have a garmin watch aswell. What i am trying to say: doesnt matter what times others get, there are 1000 variables influencing battery life it is simply impossible to pin it down to one number. i have my pattern of usage and its not changing so much only sometimes there are spikes, so all i care about it "will it get me through a normal day, preferably with a little buffer?". if you cannot manage your daily life with one battery charge you should think about a powerbank (there is a huawei with supercharge). because there is no other phone better than huawei atm. its simple as that. 4000mah is the most you get in a flagship, some others reach same usage numbers but in the end no one is notably better than huawei.
I am happy with my 4h-5h sot in 24h because i dont need more. in fact most of the time i only have like 3h sot after 24h and still have 25-30% when i charge. i think our batterie life is pretty similar tbh if i use my phone more i get more sot. i think i could get 8h sot in 10h of usage with youtube or netflix but over a period of 55h i once had almost 2h sot with flight mode at night. i am happy with that.(wth are you guys doing with 8h sot in one day lol do you work?.)
when i go out spontaneously for example i experience the need for a bigger battery but it is only sometimes. for that i enojy supercharge. while all my friends have dead batterys i am still on 40% cause my phone charged from 25-75 during the 20min i showered before going out. all others only manage to charge theirs from 15-35 RIP
With my Mate 10 Pro i get 9h SOT.
if anything, this device is far too stringent with preserving battery life.
if you are having this issue, then the issue is with you and not the device. you won't find better battery efficiency than EMUI
First off disable chrome
I can get 11-13h onscreen easy with my setting. My battery accu check 102% omg
klemen241 said:
First off disable chrome
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what browser do you recommend? i have tried kiwi but it sucks just as much. (i mean it is like 95% chrome)
0alfred0 said:
what browser do you recommend? i have tried kiwi but it sucks just as much. (i mean it is like 95% chrome)
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i use firefox, because i have synced passwords and tabs and everything
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i use firefox, because i have synced passwords and tabs and everything
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so can you post your power consumption?
for 1h usage of kiwi or chrome it draines 1200mah according to my stats.
generally what i notice is that for it always displays hardware around 25-30% and software around 70-75%. Most people with 8-10h sot here have something close to 50/50. this means that their apps consume less power relative to the phones hardware. i guess the hardware is less variable compared to software.
https://imgur.com/a/KtyxlaR
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so can you post your power consumption?
for 1h usage of kiwi or chrome it draines 1200mah according to my stats.
generally what i notice is that for it always displays hardware around 25-30% and software around 70-75%. Most people with 8-10h sot here have something close to 50/50. this means that their apps consume less power relative to the phones hardware. i guess the hardware is less variable compared to software.
https://imgur.com/a/KtyxlaR
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most of my power is used by facebook and messenger and bad mobile signal