My rate of battery loss is insane. I can sometimes lose more than 14% an hour while using it. That's with cm7 and the extended/fat battery! Is this normal for heavy use or is there something inherently wrong with my phone.
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what apps and hardware (bluetooth, etc) are you using? what is your birightness set at? are you using 4G?
No bluetooth. Mostly baconreader for reddit. 4g strangely makes no difference. Normally it is off, but I have found that the angle of descent is not impacted by switching. Brightness always sub 40%
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Something else has to be running. I get better than that with stock battery and heavy use.
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Here is today.
Keep in mind that this is with the 2750mA battery
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Is that an antivirus in the first screen?
My brightness (in a profile) is set to 15% and I run that 24/7 unless I'm outside making a phone call or something to see the screen . . .
Could be the antivirus. Have you tried battery calibration by nema? (In market) I'm running infected and using the same battery (OEM right?) And I get about 5% drain an hour with 4g on and screen on about half the time. Sometimes more or less depending on usage.
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Is that an antivirus in the first screen?
My brightness (in a profile) is set to 15% and I run that 24/7 unless I'm outside making a phone call or something to see the screen . . .
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Where? The shield? If so, that's juicedefender
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Could be the antivirus. Have you tried battery calibration by nema? (In market) I'm running infected and using the same battery (OEM right?) And I get about 5% drain an hour with 4g on and screen on about half the time. Sometimes more or less depending on usage.
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Doesn't that just clear the batterystats file on the Sd card? That doesn't affect use unfortunately.
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I could be wrong, but isnt juicedefender an app constantly running? Have you tested your battery without that app?
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First off thanks, I now feel better about my battery life. in my opinion battery life depends on a lot of things. Juice defender didn't seem to play well with my phone. I only turn on wifi when I need it. Also I would charge to phone to 100% and reboot into recovery and clear the battery stats. Not sure if any of that would help, but it can't hurt to try.
I've noticed a bit more accurate readings when resetting battery stats, which is why I suggested it.
Otherwise, you could try a complete backup of all your apps and trying a different rom?
My battery lasts about 14 hrs with regular to heavy use. 11 hrs on the fat battery seems like its way too low. Have you rooted and unclocked?
I would unistall juice defender. You can set up the phone just as well without it and have one less app running (which uses battery)
I have an avg of about 12 hrs fully cycle since i bought my phone over a year ago. I have to make sure that all the setting (i.e. GPS off, wifi off, screen turned all the way down) are always correct to push anything past the 12 hr mark.
Your best bet is do like the rest of us and make sure you have a charger always ready if you are ALWAYS using it.
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Just wanted to show my battery life after i got a new battery sent to me from Motorola, I knew it was the battery and not my phone
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Nice..how did u get them to send u a battery?
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Nice..how did u get them to send u a battery?
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i just called them up, my phone was still in warranty, so i had one free replacement, just give support a call, let them know your having battery issues and you should be able to get one
Yep, this phone rules. Love the fact that it works so good as a PHONE too, the way they all should. Motorola has it down. My best since the latest update was over 40 hours, with a few hours worth of phone calls.
Wow that's awesome. Now did you do anything else special like turning off data etc.
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What were you getting before?
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Wow that's awesome. Now did you do anything else special like turning off data etc.
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I use custom data saver mode set to turn off data automatically after 15 min all day and night. That way I don't have to bother switching data on and off manually. Plus, it comes on very fast when I turn the screen on. I do keep BT and WIFI off when not in use, brightness at 25%. I also use the built in task killer to auto kill a few apps that want to keep running, like Facebook. I'm locked, but rooted running stock rom, and I used battery calibrator app after the update which helped. Although, before the update I was getting pretty much the same battery life.
And with me, believe it or not, I have the brightness all the way down, (you'd be surprised how bright the screen still is!!!!!) That's my only real secret to even better battery life
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I did the same thing with moto, except i was getting great battery life to begin with. I just wanted a second battery.
One thing that I don't get though is why the phone always wakes up on it's own. My heroc and Evo 3D didn't do that, with the same apps installed. It kinda concerns me.
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One thing that I don't get though is why the phone always wakes up on it's own. My heroc and Evo 3D didn't do that, with the same apps installed. It kinda concerns me.
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Just wanted to post new battery settings:
- Running Skinny ROM, unlocked, rooted
- Actually stopped overclocking the phone - max is 1000 Mhz
- Undervolt @ -75mV
- Juice Defender - Customized Settings (wondering if Aggressive is better)
- I did go through two nights on Airplane mode 14hrs
- Alarm I hear is what causes the phone to be "awake" at night...
Well, I'd say it's been pretty impressive...though I didn't text much and wasn't on too many phone calls, I'd say 24 hours of use w/ 10% left isn't too shabby. I could have probably gotten another couple of hours.
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I use custom data saver mode set to turn off data automatically after 15 min all day and night. That way I don't have to bother switching data on and off manually. Plus, it comes on very fast when I turn the screen on. I do keep BT and WIFI off when not in use, brightness at 25%. I also use the built in task killer to auto kill a few apps that want to keep running, like Facebook. I'm locked, but rooted running stock rom, and I used battery calibrator app after the update which helped. Although, before the update I was getting pretty much the same battery life.
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Can you tell me the name of the application?
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Battery calibrator...check in market
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Alright, I've read countless "photon battery issue" threads and none really have a good answer but this is just ridiculous:
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I went to bed with the thing charged to 100%, wake up 8hrs later, not having used it once and its at 50%... okay, whatever, I guess it was about 8 hours...
So I charge it to 80% then go work-out for about maybe 2 hours and when I'm done the SOB is at 40%- I DIDN'T TOUCH IT THE WHOLE TIME! I DON'T THINK IT EVEN CHARGES THAT FAST! I don't care if it was searching for signal the whole time, which it shouldn't have, WTF?!
Other anecdotal stories: I'm fanatical about battery life and always charge it full before going out for the night or something and I'm usually lucky to make it to bar close, a total time span of MAYBE 5 hours. How is this even possible?! The damn thing is supposed to have a 10 hour talk time?! Even if I was on the phone the whole time (which not even close, just txting and using it when you're awkwardly alone while your friend goes to the bathroom)- WTF!?
I'm extremely vigilant about charging and monitoring battery life and despite my best efforts I get burned constantly. I even have this thing on airplane mode at work (in a basement) cause it will be dead by the end of my shift.
Any one use a rom that gives a noticeable increase in battery life? Doesn't seem like many of them are mature enough. Juice defender doesn't seem to help much... do I have any decent options? I may start carrying around a second battery but seriously, that's a bit silly.
/venting.
you have a bad battery, just call up Motorola and see if your still under warranty, if so, have them send you one, that's what i did and i've noticed a substantial increase in battery life
Hey man, did you calibrate your battery when flashing roms? Battery will die faster when dont calibrate. Currently which rom are you on. also check some programs that might run in the background. Right now, im getting about 17 hours, but i am over clocked and under volting this bad boy. I posted my battery life prior to running jokers ROM. Check it out.
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I think I have some issues with my battery as well. It discharges fast! I usually have it full all the time but the times where I have left it discharge cause I'm lazy I wonder how everyone post pics with 13+ hrs when I feel like my won't get even 10. Btw, my battery has been in water for a brief moment idk if that affects it somehow?
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In my experience, bad battery life is usually related to some apps or settings wrecking havoc in the background. Unless you happen to have a phone with LTE and a smaller battery of course.
I always get an average of 30 to 40 hours on one charge with moderate use on my Photon, stock rooted...
For me, live wallpapers demolished my battery life. Also, I completely formatted sd internal before flashing joker skinny.
No rom here, just rooted- lime green theme. I didnt calibrate but for a theme i shouldn't need to? Ill look into getting a battery from moto, no reason i shouldn't be covered.... Aside from rooting that is. Also wouldnt phantom app drain show in the pics posted?
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Get betterbatterystats and check for wakelocks etc, something is stuck full throttle in the background
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My battery life is also really bad.. but since I flashed cm7 its been better which makes me not wanna throw this phone against the wall lol..but seriously ..right now I'm at 42 percent after 11 hours with texting, a few calls, Facebook, playing some games so I'm really happy with cm7.give it a try
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ok so i hate to start another battery thread but i'm a little confused...this is my first android phone and to me my battery won't even last 12 hours...i feel that's pretty low....i've read stuff about wakelocks and stuff but how do i find out how to stop them? here are my specs.... i'm rooted with UnNamed and siyah kernel....heres some screen shots taken when battery was at 3%....maybe you guys can help??
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ok so i hate to start another battery thread but i'm a little confused...this is my first android phone and to me my battery won't even last 12 hours...i feel that's pretty low....i've read stuff about wakelocks and stuff but how do i find out how to stop them? here are my specs.... i'm rooted with UnNamed and siyah kernel....heres some screen shots taken when battery was at 3%....maybe you guys can help??
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How much screen on time did you have? how long has it been since you flashed your current set up?
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sorry forgot that shot....i rooted and flashed on either Sunday or Monday this week.....now i do use bluetooth for work so i'm thinking that kills the battery big time....
That is kind of good battery life considering you got almost four hours of screen on time. If your really worried then you should get one of the 3500 mah batteries. I have this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21589969. This battery gets me through at least a day and a half of heavy usage, and it works great for the price.
yeah i wasn't sure...i always keep reading about people getting 1.5-2 days on a battery...it's a new toy so hopefully when the excitement wears off that screen won't be on so much
That's exactly what will happen. You have new phone syndrome. I did too, when I first got my Galaxy S2. Except that I, unlike you, was running stock unrooted, and my battery life was more like 8 hours. I'm now running stock rooted with Entropy's kernel, plus I don't use my phone as much, and I get between 15 and 20 hours.
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Yeah...with almost 4 hours screen on, and mostly on cell data (assumption based on your 2.x hours of wifi on) that isn't too horrible. Your total awake time is about an hour more than screen on, so assuming you had phone calls, music playing, or some other screen off background task to account for some of that, you're doing pretty good...
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LOL so I'm guessing the best way to really conserve battery is to keep the screen off. Just outta curiousity (which I will test tonight after full charge) what is an acceptable drop rate when phone is fully asleep for say 8 hours or so. Like what 1-2% an hour?
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LOL so I'm guessing the best way to really conserve battery is to keep the screen off. Just outta curiousity (which I will test tonight after full charge) what is an acceptable drop rate when phone is fully asleep for say 8 hours or so. Like what 1-2% an hour?
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I think the best I have seen reported is 0.5% per hour. Mine on wifi has been as good as about 0.8% per hour, but usually a little over 1%.
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LOL so I'm guessing the best way to really conserve battery is to keep the screen off. Just outta curiousity (which I will test tonight after full charge) what is an acceptable drop rate when phone is fully asleep for say 8 hours or so. Like what 1-2% an hour?
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2%/hour idle drain I consider bad - that's why I haven't released a kernel since 1/2/2012 - I have a power management regression that pushes drain to a bit over 2%/hour when connected to wifi.
I strive for 0.5%/hour and get very close to that frequently when in a good signal area. In a weak signal area (like at my desk at work), it's around 1%/hour.
4.5%/hour or so is the idle drain you'll get if the phone is unable to enter deep sleep.
I've noticed what appears to be excessive battery drain while left on overnight. My phone went from 97% to 70% This phone should not be using this much battery while in standby mode. Display consumed 37% of that 28% even though it was off all night. Anyone have any ideas on what this could be.
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I usually lose around 2% overnight and I always have wifi on..Download cpu spy from the market and make sure its going into deep sleep..
Also try betterbattery stats app and see if you have a rogue app causing a wake lock or something.
its not going into deep sleep, as is evident by it showing it being awake with the screen off. do you charge via USB or car charger? there is a big that prevented it from going into deep sleep. if you use a wall charger the issue is not there.
I did download CPUstats already and the phone is not deep sleeping correctly. I will try the second app you mentioned and see what's causing the wakes. Thanks.
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I use the supplied wall charger.
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I have the same response as MR.DSL
I have noticed, since I did a deep cycle of the battery, it has started to maintain better % overall.
Biggest drain is driving with music from over the air, and navigation running.
Hence, I use battery backup for driving.
Love this phone. They just keep getting beter each year.
I have the same problem although i have the problem only when flashing tpc's Rom. And i don't have my gmail account logged in so therefore i shouldn't have any background apps keeping it from deep. Although when flashing back to stock.. I have no problems.
Just got my note yesterday and notice there is a similar problem this morning. With wifi on but sync off. The battery dropped about 15% in 6-7 hours without any usage.
Then I remember when I was using other android phones (streak 5, desire z) when I use GOOGLE Latitude it drains my battery almost continuously. Just log out the Latitude to see if it gets any better.
it is the deep sleep... before I started rebooting my phone every morning after it was charged to 100%, my note could last merely 13hrs.... since I started rebooting every morning, it lasted more than 18hrs and still had ~30% of battery.... and battery watch shows I usually have 50+% screen on time and wifi always on
So after resetting my phone and reverting to stock kernel. My phone dropped only 3% over 7 hours. It was in deep sleep 97% of that time. I'm hoping it continues to behave this way.
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how does one find out if the gnote is going into deep sleep mode or not, using the "cpu spy" app? does it tell you right off the bat or you need to correlate it with something in order to determine if it is or not? i'm having the same issues with my battery life dropping significantly over night. i tried restarting my phone this morning after i disconnected it off the wall charger. i'm at work right now and the battery life is still dropping fairly quickly, after i had already killed all the apps before turning off the screen...
edit: i'm running on stock kernel and have not rooted yet..
is your phone rooted or not if so what kernel are you running?
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So is this issue only present in rooted devices? If so i think ill just flash the stock back on and wait for ics.
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That's what I'm trying to figure out. If anyone is having this issue while running a rooted kernel, try flashing stock kernel to see if it changes anything. Either way please report results.
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Is anyone else finding it extremely difficult to get through the day without struggling to keep your SIII alive? I thought the battery life was supposed to be superior to its predecessors? I'm a first time Android user but I did not think I would have to lower my brightness all the way and constantly monitor my devices battery life.
do you have some dumbass apps draining your battery?
i found my culprit and it's Friendcaster without even turn the notification on
get Badass battery monitor to find it or just use the one in setting
I'm finding the battery life is great, and lasts a whole day with no problems
It really depends on what do on your phone.
Try posting a screenshot of your battery stats. Android has an inbuilt monitor with each app and its usage being displayed. Easy method to spot a drain.
I just downloaded that in addition to my other app but there doesn't seem to be anything out of the ordinary that seems to be killing my battery. Most of it is coming from my screen but I keep at it 25% brightness the whole time. Super odd
I usually get around 16 hours of standby and at least 4 hours or more of screen time.
You should try Watchdog Task Manager. It will be able to tell you if an app is running and using more processes than it should. Also I've never used badass battery stats, but better battery stats will tell you if anything is holding a wakelock. It is free for XDA members so you don't have to buy it on the market. Just search for it
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I'm finding the battery life is great, and lasts a whole day with no problems
It really depends on what do on your phone.
Try posting a screenshot of your battery stats. Android has an inbuilt monitor with each app and its usage being displayed. Easy method to spot a drain.
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Where exactly would I find this inbuilt monitor?
Settings/Battery Is what I was refering to. The other two recommended apps are probably more detailed.
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On saturday I drove for 4 hours streaming music via bluetooth to my car. Used navigation for about 40 minutes with the screen on the whole time. Took a few calls, sent a few sms's. Read a few forums using data. Got home that night with about 40% left. That'll do me.
Maybe I'm just freaking out about the whole battery situation? I just expected it to be a lot longer and a lot better. I constantly worry if I'll be able to make past 10PM when I start my day at 7AM.
On wifi with little to no voice signal that cuts out frequently, I might get seven hours of screen on time today D:
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Yeah i found it average and could just get through a day. Ended up installing lightweight rom and lasts a day no problem.
Get Better Battery Stats and have a look at what the Wakelocks are like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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Maybe I'm just freaking out about the whole battery situation? I just expected it to be a lot longer and a lot better. I constantly worry if I'll be able to make past 10PM when I start my day at 7AM.
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You should be fine, i start my day at 5am and still have 40% at 8pm.
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I'm getting huge drain from Cell Standby.
It'll lose 30% overnight. I keep checking for a software update. It's got to be the modem.
I'm holding off on rooting and custom ROMS until I know for sure this is fixable in firmware.
My phone's on LE6 and is from Thailand.
I see that you have poor signal reception
maybe that's why
last time I went underground, just 5 mins of standby it took away 10% of my battery
when it searches for signal it drains a lot
you could also try to disable auto search for network
go to setting>more settings > network operators and select it manually
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On wifi with little to no voice signal that cuts out frequently, I might get seven hours of screen on time today D:
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An update, I did not want to drain fully to 0 but I got six hours and forty minutes of screen time yesterday and I think I could have hit seven if I drained fully.
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i get 48% on cell standby... my phone lasts around 4-5 hours... anyone got any ideas what i can do to increase my battery further??
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Super idea ) i've done that today. All seemed good. 2,5 % awake is fine