can the internal sdcard be formatted from a PC just like an external sdcard ?
I dont care about anything data I have on it, I just need to know if i wipe it I am not effing anything up that needs to run.
Thanks!
The "Internal SD" is not really an SD card in the sense of a removable or separate device. It is part of the internal memory, but from the stand point of the system is treated as a separate drive. Kind of like the way you can take a hard drive a partition it into two "logical" drives that can be separately addressed.
In any case the formatting of the internal SD is a function of the Android system and not the PC. I'm not sure what happens if you try to format while the device is plugged in via USB. I know there are several hidden directories that Android needs on the SD card and if you try to format from the PC they are likely to be destroyed.
If you look at "Settings-Storage" you should find the formatting tool.
mbamberg said:
The "Internal SD" is not really an SD card in the sense of a removable or separate device. It is part of the internal memory, but from the stand point of the system is treated as a separate drive. Kind of like the way you can take a hard drive a partition it into two "logical" drives that can be separately addressed.
In any case the formatting of the internal SD is a function of the Android system and not the PC. I'm not sure what happens if you try to format while the device is plugged in via USB. I know there are several hidden directories that Android needs on the SD card and if you try to format from the PC they are likely to be destroyed.
If you look at "Settings-Storage" you should find the formatting tool.
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But, back to the original question: how do you format (wipe) the internal SD card?
This whole issue of the pictures and mp3s that can't be removed is really bugging me.
kevincwelch said:
But, back to the original question: how do you format (wipe) the internal SD card?
This whole issue of the pictures and mp3s that can't be removed is really bugging me.
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did you try going into root explorer and mounting r/w and then try to delete the files? Just asking because there has been a few bricks on here from people formatting their internal.
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kevincwelch said:
But, back to the original question: how do you format (wipe) the internal SD card?
This whole issue of the pictures and mp3s that can't be removed is really bugging me.
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If you remove those files, you may not be able to use the OTA updates....the updates don't seem to like changed or removed files.
Bob
monkey10120 said:
did you try going into root explorer and mounting r/w and then try to delete the files? Just asking because there has been a few bricks on here from people formatting their internal.
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Good thought: I did use Root Explorer to mount R/W. It did NOT let me delete those files.
(I really have no serious intentions of formatting my internal "SD" card; I'm just fuming that I have no control over the files, which show up in my Google music.)
I also can't seem to put a .nomedia file in the directory either.
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robertg9 said:
If you remove those files, you may not be able to use the OTA updates....the updates don't seem to like changed or removed files.
Bob
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Not necessarily worried about that. I've found a ROM and kernel that work pretty well, and since this isn't my phone, I don't need it to be running 24-7.
There's nothing in System Settings-Storage?
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Certain apps tend to save data on the phone's internal storage which is named "sdcard". So in order to trick those apps to save data on my external sdcard(sdcard2), would it be okay to rename the "sdcard" to "internal storage" and rename "sdcard2" to "sdcard"?
Would that cause any problems?
I like to keep my apps stored on my phone's storage and keep everything else (music, videos, pictures, browser downloads) on my actual sd card.
do it in windows explorer; i renamed mine and it works well still
Could you explain how you did this. I have tried a couple different ways and i am having no luck renaming my sd card file.
I am sure with custom roms we can swap the mount points if we want.
jayochs said:
do it in windows explorer; i renamed mine and it works well still
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But that's not renaming the folder itself as the phone sees it, that's just modifying what the computer knows to call it in Explorer when you hook it up.
OP, I tried changing it myself and it wouldn't work. I don't think it's possible until root comes along and we can modify file system data and the like. Sucks, and it's stupid that HTC thought it'd be a good idea to name it SDcard, but we're stuck with it for now
rboddy said:
But that's not renaming the folder itself as the phone sees it, that's just modifying what the computer knows to call it in Explorer when you hook it up.
OP, I tried changing it myself and it wouldn't work. I don't think it's possible until root comes along and we can modify file system data and the like. Sucks, and it's stupid that HTC thought it'd be a good idea to name it SDcard, but we're stuck with it for now
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Not much worse than moto bionic Havering internel storage as sdcard, and the actual SD card, sdcard-ext.
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Not much worse than moto bionic Havering internel storage as sdcard, and the actual SD card, sdcard-ext.
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That's the exact case here. Internal storage on the Rezound is "SDCARD" and the acutal SD Card is "SDCARD2" or "ext_sd" - those two folders are mirrors of each other.
Why did they make the sdcard folder on the internal ram? All my apps write to arcade not ed_ext. Titaniumbackup, Rom manager, browser, you name it. Not to mention a factory wipe in cwm wipes the arcade folder. Am I missing something? Are the devs going to fix this within the Rom?
Great question... This gets on my nerves.... It wasn't this way on my Droid Charge and boom I saw it on my Bionic and now the Rezound...
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That is because we are using a Unix file structure. (EXT/2/3/4) Unix (and its derivatives) see drives (USB drives, extra internal drives, SD cards, etc) as folders/files not as devices. There are ways to make these devices appear to show up as a device rather than a folder to the user, but at its core it is still treated as a folder by the kernel.
Desktop linux file structure has all extra storage devices listed as folders in the /media folder of the / (root) partition of the file system.
This structure is also why we have the /system and /data partitions in Android. Its another throw over from the linux base (desktop linux is usually / and /user or /home)
Seems there is no consistancy between OEMs and how they tell the file system to arrange user storage. Some have /SDCARD1 /SDCARD2 and HTC has the external card listed inside the internal memory. It could be that the internal memory is mapped to the /media of regular linux.
/sdcard is a symbolic link (shortcut) for /mnt/sdcard and /sdcard2 is a symlink for /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd
So really they are all the same, just how they choose to link the location is different. Either way, that is just how linux works.
Can this be remapped? Is so, how?
maniac2k said:
Can this be remapped? Is so, how?
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vold.fstab modification EXPERIMENTAL
Read the whole thread first before you decide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383330
considering the available storage does it really matter where the data goes?
I've just htcdev unlocked my bootloader (which wipes the phone) and it didn't touch the internal sd card or sd card2. Installing a ROM that wipes the device did not either.
So what's the big deal where it goes? I use the internal storage for apps and game data and my 32gb sd card for media and roms.
nrfitchett4 said:
considering the available storage does it really matter where the data goes?
I've just htcdev unlocked my bootloader (which wipes the phone) and it didn't touch the internal sd card or sd card2. Installing a ROM that wipes the device did not either.
So what's the big deal where it goes? I use the internal storage for apps and game data and my 32gb sd card for media and roms.
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And all that really means is that, if your application writes data to a different location, you just copy the data to your SD card. Not really a lot of work. Got used to it with my Dell Streak 7...
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When I did a few wipes, it did wipe my sdcard folder. That is problem 1. #2 is then I have to config all my apps that default to sdcard. #3 I have to now backup sdcard and sdcard2. #4 wah I don't want change.
nrfitchett4 said:
considering the available storage does it really matter where the data goes?
I've just htcdev unlocked my bootloader (which wipes the phone) and it didn't touch the internal sd card or sd card2. Installing a ROM that wipes the device did not either.
So what's the big deal where it goes? I use the internal storage for apps and game data and my 32gb sd card for media and roms.
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maniac2k said:
When I did a few wipes, it did wipe my sdcard folder. That is problem 1. #2 is then I have to config all my apps that default to sdcard. #3 I have to now backup sdcard and sdcard2. #4 wah I don't want change.
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That's what I read, so I backed it up, but htcdev didn't wipe it on my device (does a factory reset when unlocking), and it wasn't wiped when I installed chingy's rom (that auto wipes), so I don't know why some are experiencing this.
Not to mention that wiping with amon ra also does not delete the internal sd card.
md303 said:
vold.fstab modification EXPERIMENTAL
Read the whole thread first before you decide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383330
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Modded the vold.fstab per your link and it worked. Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072751
enter here to fix default install location to sdcard2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072751
Titanium backup was mentioned, it's really easy to go into preferences and edit the backup storage location. I used to walk a lot of people through it with the remote unlocking process I would do.
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Hey there, I think I broke internal storage
Its not mounted...
What I have done
1.) SBF back to defualt
Any ideas?
So on stock 2.3.4 your internal SD is broke not the ext-sd?
Sorry this should of been posted to the Q&A section.
Travisdroidx2 said:
So on stock 2.3.4 your internal SD is broke not the ext-sd?
Sorry this should of been posted to the Q&A section.
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My bad,
Yes the internal storage shows up as 0gb and is not mounted
DOH!!!
I had it plugged into my computer.
bijan588 said:
DOH!!!
I had it plugged into my computer.
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Nice.
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Any thoughts?
My problem is the same except I am not hooked up to USB. The issue came when I installed CM7DX2 RC0. See below what happened.
Stock settings
/mnt/sdcard (this was the internal card)
/mnt/sdcard-ext (this was the external card)
After CM7
/mnt/sdcard (this is now the external card)
/mnt/sdcard-ext (it shows up but there is nothing there)
/mnt/emmc (this is the internal card and show 0 bytes free; it has my old files but nothing can be added to it; I assume it is read only at this point)
Is there any way to make the internal read/write again or will I have to SBF? I don't get what happened. I love CM7 except for this issue. Thanks.
Leland
Emmc is supposed to be a external card. Its a flip flop. So if emmc is bad its ur removable SD. Get a new one.
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Or maybe format? Idk.
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Moved to proper forum.
emmc is what was my internal SD card; all the files from it are still there exactly as they were before the CM7 installation. I already replaced the external card shortly before installing CM7 and it is working flawlessly as sdcard (previously sdcard-ext before installing CM7). That is why I was asking. I was hoping CM7 was the cause of the issue as it was ok at the SBF before flashing to CM7. Is there a specific way to format the internal SD card? Thanks.
Leland
lgwhitlock said:
emmc is what was my internal SD card; all the files from it are still there exactly as they were before the CM7 installation. I already replaced the external card shortly before installing CM7 and it is working flawlessly as sdcard (previously sdcard-ext before installing CM7). That is why I was asking. I was hoping CM7 was the cause of the issue as it was ok at the SBF before flashing to CM7. Is there a specific way to format the internal SD card? Thanks.
Leland
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If you are planning on staying on CM7, or any other ROM that uses the flip flop mod, and you are wanting to get everything straightened out, I would recommend backing up your app data with Titanium Backup. Back up your External SD card to your computer (If you have anything else from your INTERNAL card you want to save like pictures, music, videos, etc., back them up to your computer as well). Then format both. You can erase both cards in settings/storage. After you format your internal, the apps you have on your phone already should recreate the folders they need. But wont restore your app data. Thats where you use Titanium Backup to restore the data. Then just move everything back from your computer to your external or internal depending on where you want it. You should be good then.
Thanks jsgraphicart for the advice. I will look at this and attempt the repair. However I have a question first. It seems to me that /mnt/emmc should be showing up as /mnt/sdcard-ext if the cards were truly swapped. However in File Expert with root exploring turned on there is nothing there. It seems to me a symbolic link might need to be reestablished. I think the cards themselves are fine. I was hoping someone might have some ideas how to get /mnt/emmc to point to /mnt/sdcard-ext so the swap is complete. Does anyone have some clues to offer to get things in their proper order? I think I will go read the article about swapping the cards to see if I can find the answer myself but if anyone has an answer I would love to hear from you. Thanks.
Leland
lgwhitlock said:
Thanks jsgraphicart for the advice. I will look at this and attempt the repair. However I have a question first. It seems to me that /mnt/emmc should be showing up as /mnt/sdcard-ext if the cards were truly swapped. However in File Expert with root exploring turned on there is nothing there. It seems to me a symbolic link might need to be reestablished. I think the cards themselves are fine. I was hoping someone might have some ideas how to get /mnt/emmc to point to /mnt/sdcard-ext so the swap is complete. Does anyone have some clues to offer to get things in their proper order? I think I will go read the article about swapping the cards to see if I can find the answer myself but if anyone has an answer I would love to hear from you. Thanks.
Leland
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I think the emmc is an AOSP thing. I'm not 100% though. I dont know the technical answer to that. The emmc IS your external card and works the same. If you use it long enough, you do get used to it. I think it confused a lot of us when we flashed CM7 for the first time.
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Is there any way I can mount a folder from the internal sdcard as USB mass storage?
( I am aware that I can mount an external sd but I don't happen to have one.)
jhonwds said:
Is there any way I can mount a folder from the internal sdcard as USB mass storage?
( I am aware that I can mount an external sd but I don't happen to have one.)
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Once I connect my phone it shows internal and external as two drives. You just can't mount e.g. the system folders if I am right.
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No.
jhonwds said:
Is there any way I can mount a folder from the internal sdcard as USB mass storage?
( I am aware that I can mount an external sd but I don't happen to have one.)
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No.
And here is why:
On the newer phones there is no seperate phone memory and internal SD, its just one big memory. The good thing about ir is, that you can install a lot more apps, because the whole memory is usable for the phone. The bad side is, that you can only access it through MTP.
In order to make it available as USB mass storage it needs to be unmounted, but this is not possible, because it is used by the phone. If you do it, the phone will crash. Its just like pulling a memory chip out of a running PC.
A filesystem can be mounted on different locations. If more than one location has write access, it will cause irreparable damage though.
The main problem here is that that the device uses the ext4 filesystem which Windows cannot process.
As a fix (sort of) you can
- swap internal and external storage.
- use a Smb over Wifi app and mount the share in Windows
- use a pseudo-filesysem such as sshfs from your computer
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Jumbodriver said:
No.
And here is why:
On the newer phones there is no seperate phone memory and internal SD, its just one big memory. The good thing about ir is, that you can install a lot more apps, because the whole memory is usable for the phone. The bad side is, that you can only access it through MTP.
In order to make it available as USB mass storage it needs to be unmounted, but this is not possible, because it is used by the phone. If you do it, the phone will crash. Its just like pulling a memory chip out of a running PC.
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I dont think so and disagree with you... galaxy s i9000 and galaxy s2 i9100 also same. But they can mount internal and external as UMS or MTP.
Maybe the different in filesystem is the main cause.
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On the S3, the whole internal memory is one big chunk (called /data). How would you go about mounting that as UMP when android is running? Android is using /data, therefore you can't unmount it and remount is as UMS.
If I'm wrong (which I may very well be), then post valid proof.
Theshawty said:
On the S3, the whole internal memory is one big chunk (called /data). How would you go about mounting that as UMP when android is running? Android is using /data, therefore you can't unmount it and remount is as UMS.
If I'm wrong (which I may very well be), then post valid proof.
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Understood.. thanks for the info.. just found it out...
So internal sdcard is a mount point of folder /data/media
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syamsoul said:
Understood.. thanks for the info.. just found it out...
So internal sdcard is a mount point of folder /data/media
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HI there, by chance are you able to recover from the "internal memory" after a factory reset, on a galaxy s3.
I am not sure what the consensus was-
-i recently thought google had all my photos backed up and did a factory reset, and lost everything.
Am hoping if I keep the phone that I can find a way to recover the photos.
Thank you.
resetrebel said:
HI there, by chance are you able to recover from the "internal memory" after a factory reset, on a galaxy s3.
I am not sure what the consensus was-
-i recently thought google had all my photos backed up and did a factory reset, and lost everything.
Am hoping if I keep the phone that I can find a way to recover the photos.
Thank you.
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i myself never try but you can try this
XDA post
techiesstuff
Both same way
syamsoul said:
i myself never try but you can try this
XDA post
techiesstuff
Both same way
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I just wanted to say thanks for posting that second link. I've been looking everywhere for a way to export the raw mount to recover files from internal /sdcard.
Oh and in response to the first thread, I believe the reason they were getting that error (the thread is locked unfortunately) is because they used -1 (the number one) rather than -l (the letter L). I made this mistake too.
Edit: Probably should have used the 'thanks' button, sorry. Can't delete post.
If you have a custom recovery installed boot into that and mount ums from there, as recovery doesn't depend on the data partition it can unmount and remount it
I have an extremely weird SD Card behavior with my Note 2:
After deleting files and rebooting, the files reappear.
I can't format the SD Card using the Android OS - it goes black screen and requires me to pull out the battery in order to start the device.
I removed the SD Card and attached it to my laptop's SD Card slot and tried formatting using Windows 7- the format process completed after ~30-40 minutes, yet the SD Card appeared UNCHANGED!
I used multiple SD Card formatting tools, still no dice - they either complain about write protection, that they can't start, they start and stop halfway with an error, you name it.
It's like the SD Card has built in protection that keeps the files in it in stasis form, never ever witnessed such a behavior in any storage device. What gives?
Any help, preferably from people who may have encountered a similar behavior, will be greatly appreciated!
Bump.
Experienced this in my old motus.
Would love to see advice, just in case
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Bumpity-bump-bump-bump?
virus
seems like your sd card is infected by vbs virus
or corrupted
rahulraz said:
seems like your sd card is infected by vbs virus
or corrupted
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I doubt the SD Card is corrupted, as I can read the files on it just fine, each and every file.
A VBS virus that prevents me from even formatting the card? Never heard of such a thing.
Has my SD Card became sentient? Are the machines preparing their assault on mankind?
use a good anti...
well if u get any shortcut then its virus
Thanks! I'll try to find a good AV and see if I'll find anything.
OK, Lookout Mobile, Mobile Security Antivirus and AVG didn't find a single thing wrong.
Weird.
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rahulraz said:
seems like your sd card is infected by vbs virus
or corrupted
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Its not the problem of virus!
And you say visual basic script is used to create a virus?? Hell, No!!
Maybe it is the permissions in the sd card is not allowing it to format!
If your device is rooted and check whether it has ClockWorkMod recovery support.
You can use any other recovery. But ClockWorkMod is more stable.
Go to android recovery and flash that CWM.
And then go to mounts and storage > select format /sdcard.
Check if the format completes. If it gets complete, reboot your phone and again format in the settings.
If it doesn't help, after doing all these steps, now try again with some softwares on your computer and then try again.
Press thanks if I have helped you.
PM me for problems.
Well agree
the_pirate_predator said:
Its not the problem of virus!
And you say visual basic script is used to create a virus?? Hell, No!!
Maybe it is the permissions in the sd card is not allowing it to format!
If your device is rooted and check whether it has ClockWorkMod recovery support.
You can use any other recovery. But ClockWorkMod is more stable.
Go to android recovery and flash that CWM.
And then go to mounts and storage > select format /sdcard.
Check if the format completes. If it gets complete, reboot your phone and again format in the settings.
If it doesn't help, after doing all these steps, now try again with some softwares on your computer and then try again.
Press thanks if I have helped you.
PM me for problems.
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But He says he tried FormattinG Via SomE Apps.
Well He also Said That He Tried on Windows .....
FixinG permission may help .
Mine was 2 Virus Prob.
1-AutorunB2 51Trozon
nd winhauster.vbs. . .
I just tried formatting the SD Card using CWM and the SD Card remained the...same?! Arrgh!
Anyway, you get a 'Thanks' regardless, I'm grateful for any attempt to help me out. This is some X-Files stuff going on here.
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amirfoox said:
I just tried formatting the SD Card using CWM and the SD Card remained the...same?! Arrgh!
Anyway, you get a 'Thanks' regardless, I'm grateful for any attempt to help me out. This is some X-Files stuff going on here.
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I am not the one who keep looking for thanks.
It is just that the people forget to thank the person who helped them.
Thats why I mention it on every post.
My SDcard just got worse.
Now it doesn't have a filesystem. Android reports it as blank, and Windows wants to format it because it has the RAW filesystem.
What's more, total space decreased to 30MB!
It's hard to lose all my multimedia files
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OK, I have a backup image from CWM and Titanium Backup + Perseus CPU Governor, so I initially thought that they might cause this behavior, but it doesn't explain why formatting via Windows 7 seperately from my Note 2 didn't work.
I'm on stock 4.1.2, rooted, of course.
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aureljared said:
My SDcard just got worse.
Now it doesn't have a filesystem. Android reports it as blank, and Windows wants to format it because it has the RAW filesystem.
What's more, total space decreased to 30MB!
It's hard to lose all my multimedia files
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The android will surely report is as blank because you have formatted everything in ClockWorkMod.
Now all you have to do is go to settings > SD card and phone storage > Fomat SD card.
If it shows an error that "SD card is busy", then unmount it and then format it
To aurelijared
aureljared said:
My SDcard just got worse.
Now it doesn't have a filesystem. Android reports it as blank, and Windows wants to format it because it has the RAW filesystem.
What's more, total space decreased to 30MB!
It's hard to lose all my multimedia files
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Well If ur Space decreased to 30 mb its corrupted.
my 8gb card also face that.
Only 5 chinese type files was there
If u want Files nd media back then do this
Download Patition Data RecoverY.
Nd Scan for data there...
all files will back will other name.
But u cant Use sd card again.
So bump It
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You should have had a backup of everything present in the sd card to your computer.
I thought you had done it before. Even if you have formatted everything using a software in your computer, you would have deleted all your data.
the_pirate_predator said:
The android will surely report is as blank because you have formatted everything in ClockWorkMod.
Now all you have to do is go to settings > SD card and phone storage > Fomat SD card.
If it shows an error that "SD card is busy", then unmount it and then format it
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I haven't formatted it lol.
I will describe:
- card suddenly unmounts itself
- Android remounts it and reports it as blank or having an unsupported filesystem
- went to Windows for confirmation, turned out that SDcard turned to RAW filesystem from FAT32
Basically I have a dead card.
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aureljared said:
I haven't formatted it lol.
I will describe:
- card suddenly unmounts itself
- Android remounts it and reports it as blank or having an unsupported filesystem
- went to Windows for confirmation, turned out that SDcard turned to RAW filesystem from FAT32
Basically I have a dead card.
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Ummm, are you hijacking my thread, dude?
rahulraz said:
Well If ur Space decreased to 30 mb its corrupted.
my 8gb card also face that.
Only 5 chinese type files was there
If u want Files nd media back then do this
Download Patition Data RecoverY.
Nd Scan for data there...
all files will back will other name.
But u cant Use sd card again.
So bump It
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Where do I download Partition Data Recovery?
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amirfoox said:
Ummm, are you hijacking my thread, dude?
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No omg sorry
It's just that I used to have the same situation as yours, then it turned to this.
Okay I will now stop.
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