I am selling my i777 for funding for a note, thus guy in Ecuador wants to but it and he is asking me if it will work there? I have the phone unlocked but I don't know anything about international use..would he have to have a certain modem flashed to make it work right down there?
Any opinions on trading in my g2 for a note other than the size difference..i have larger fingers and hands so I think it will be a okay fit for size.
Thanks!
I'am using I777 in Brazil without any problem. Depends on the carrier he may need to flash a different modem for the best performance.
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Yeah some modems are Samsung modems and not att specific
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i use my i777 here in egypt without any problems. using a vodafone gsm sim card. had to change the modem from kh7 to kk6 though.
I'm using in Brazil(Claro) and never flashed a modem.
works fine!
By default, it's not unlocked - but unlocking it is easy with root.
Depends on bands that they use there. Phone will definitely work under GSM, and it will get 3G unless they use bands other than 850/1900/2100Mhz.
jaymz77 said:
Any opinions on trading in my g2 for a note other than the size difference..i have larger fingers and hands so I think it will be a okay fit for size.
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Reading some where here at the XDA forums, they say G2 is better than the note. Set a side bigger screen for the note, I don't know if you wants to do that. Just my 2 cents.
International Note - Yes, def. something I'd consider.
AT&T Note - Horribly crippled mangled abomination.
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Will everything that works for the at&t note work for the Rogers note? Like unlocking, rooting and custom roms?
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Will everything that works for the at&t note work for the Rogers note? Like unlocking, rooting and custom roms?
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They will most likely use the same rooting methods.
Possible the same ROMs
And it's possible they may require a different kernel.
It's really hard to say though. Your best answer is to look at previous Rogers / AT&T phone development on Samsung phones. I really hope they share the same ROMs.
They NEVER use the same ROM but it is not to say you can't interchange ROMs. Sometimes, there is some very small hardware differences as well. They have different product code as well. By all means, they are not the same phone.
I have owned several rogers phones that are also on at&t i can confirm that so far thy have been identical only major difference is one has at&t crap and one has rogers crap. As far as Roms they are usually the same.
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Are the Bell and Telus versions also interchangeable with the at&t version? With regards to both development and general network use (voice, UMTS, LTE...)
Reason I'm asking is because those 2 carriers don't brand their phones unlike Rogers and at&t. The Streak and international phones have spoiled me in that way.
That i can't say forsure but my guess would be they are all the same. If anything the kernels may been to be changed depending on your network
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THe Robellus ones will have 1700 AWS LTE whil the AT&T one does not include these frequencies, or so is the norm on most devices according to what i have heard
You will know when the rest of us do.
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The Radio is usually the biggest difference other than the bloat from both companies
i currently have the AT&T LTE version of the note
and someone is trying to trade with me for their international version (they have t-mobile) and i'm currently stuck at a crossroads,
i do love the home button on the international and the development they have going on in their forum. However, i feel like development here will start to pick up also (running saurom with holo kernal) i live in San Francisco where LTE is pretty strong for me but the exynos processor does also sound nice. So this is my dilemma, any advice would be appreciated!
Note: yes i did search the forum and have read all the posts regarding at&t vs international but they all go back and forth without solid opinions =/ that is perhaps why i'm stuck right now lol.
That up to u. U need to weigh the pros and cons. Warranty alone will keep me with att and I love my LTE!
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That up to u. U need to weigh the pros and cons. Warranty alone will keep me with att and I love my LTE!
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thats one of the cons against the international on my list right now, the lack of warranty ):
I thought about doing the same. I'm just gonna stick with my AT&T version. Pros and cons with both. But also remember if you ever wanna sell it and get most of your dough back, you'll get more for the AT&T version being its LTE. Especially if you have LTE in your area.
That's big for me being I always get the latest and greatest.
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I thought about doing the same. I'm just gonna stick with my AT&T version. Pros and cons with both. But also remember if you ever wanna sell it and get most of your dough back, you'll get more for the AT&T version being its LTE. Especially if you have LTE in your area.
That's big for me being I always get the latest and greatest.
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I'm the exact same way! Though I thought I'd get more with an international one lol as it being more "rare" here in the us
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I'm the exact same way! Though I thought I'd get more with an international one lol as it being more "rare" here in the us
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I guess it depends, some people maybe won't feel comfortable with a international one for some reason. I guess it depends.
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i currently have the AT&T LTE version of the note
and someone is trying to trade with me for their international version (they have t-mobile) and i'm currently stuck at a crossroads,
i do love the home button on the international and the development they have going on in their forum. However, i feel like development here will start to pick up also (running saurom with holo kernal) i live in San Francisco where LTE is pretty strong for me but the exynos processor does also sound nice. So this is my dilemma, any advice would be appreciated!
Note: yes i did search the forum and have read all the posts regarding at&t vs international but they all go back and forth without solid opinions =/ that is perhaps why i'm stuck right now lol.
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well, if you don't care about LTE then go for international, if you care about LTE then stick with it.
i think Lte is important to me since i am in LTE area and using a relay video service for deaf people to communicate. i know its a little lags if its stock but i am waiting for ICS ROM.
its just a month and more developments may come in few weeks or so.
sorry for my bad english.
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I guess it depends, some people maybe won't feel comfortable with a international one for some reason. I guess it depends.
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I didn't think deciding would be this hard.. my lte service is hit or miss in some areas so i lean towards the international but the gut wrenching feeling of flashing roms without Samsung warranty pushes me towards at&t
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I say stick with the note, but that's really a question only you should decide.
I have the internation note and love it.u get abot 8mbps down and 1mbps up.thats not too bad.it looks lot better then att version and also it comes with 2 year warranty.if u have any friends oversees buy it.because u can change the csc anytime and get it fixed from any country.
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I thought about doing the same. I'm just gonna stick with my AT&T version. Pros and cons with both. But also remember if you ever wanna sell it and get most of your dough back, you'll get more for the AT&T version being its LTE. Especially if you have LTE in your area.
That's big for me being I always get the latest and greatest.
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The international one fetches more because people outside of the US can use it as well. It is the same with Verizon phones.. they sell for less because you can only use them on Verizon.
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The international one fetches more because people outside of the US can use it as well. It is the same with Verizon phones.. they sell for less because you can only use them on Verizon.
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True, true. However the way i was looking at it is alot of cities are starting to get ATT's LTE. So he would have no problem getting top dollar for a newer LTE phone on Ebay, Craigslist etc. People over by me have them listed at $600 or more even ive seen. I have actually seen the International version on craigslist for cheaper, around me at least. I seen a guy today selling a few week old international Galaxy Nexus for $250 .
I guess it just depends where you are and if your area supports LTE. Than obviously the 4G note would get top dollar.
Hey if u don't do it I'm willing to trade him my ATT one for he international version.
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Heck, I had a hard time trying to find a white AT&T Note for my Dark Blue Int but it's understandable. While I love my Int Note which will go to my mom once I get my AT&T Note from a seller on this board. LTE in my area is hard to past up which is the reason why I went to a White AT&T Note.
Okay gang, I need your help. I'm new to the android landscape (note was my first android device) and was asked by a good friend of mine to find her a phone.
She's looking for a Unlocked Samsung Galaxy series phone that she can use here in the US as well as be able to swap a sim card and use for service in Italy when she visits.
So two questions. What device do you all recommend, and where is the best place to procure it?
Thanks in advance!! I know this is a galaxy note forum, but couldn't think of a better group of folks to field these questions
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Any lte phone should work as they are world phones
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Galaxy Nexus from the google store
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Any lte phone should work as they are world phones
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Are LTE frequencies the same worldwide?
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Galaxy Nexus from the google store
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Agreed. The unlocked Nexus $399.99 is the best choice for now.
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Here's a list of frequencies used by country:
http://allworldcellphones.com/gsm-frequencies-list.htm
Italy uses GSM 900 and 1800 frequencies which is supported by the International Note as well as the I717. I didn't see anything about LTE or HSDPA related figures, but I only looked for 3 min and clicked the first link.
My suggestion would be for her to determine what she wants in a phone. Does she want to take notes? does she want a small phone? As long as the phone has the proper frequencies, she would be able to use it in Italy. Most AT&T phones have the capability of running 800 and 1800 as well as many others, but verify by looking at the specs before buying. If she has a US carrier in mind (like AT&T) she can buy one of those subsidized and pay an unlock fee from a site (cheapest I've heard of was $8) and will probably save money.
If she wants to buy a phone outright I'd say look at the galaxy 2 series. From what I hear it's a great phone, a large community here (if she feels the urge to mod it) and can pick a new unlocked one for about 400.
Hope this helps a little.
any international unlocked phone will work. the international gs3 wouldnt be a bad bet. n7000 as well. you just wont have lte. I would not recommend an at&t direct phone because it will not be unlocked. so sim flipping could be an issue in italy.
International Galaxy Note, Galaxy Nexus, or wait for the Galaxy S3 to come out.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
Hey guys.
I have been using the galaxy note on wind mobiles AWS network. After 5 months using the note on wind I can honestly say no radio can achieve a solid connection.
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That's not a surprise. Its not designed for that frequency. An unlocked t-mobile phone would be the better choice.
Try padwan. I use wind as well and this rom runs great
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That's not a surprise. Its not designed for that frequency. An unlocked t-mobile phone would be the better choice.
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Note supports all frequencies required for Wind or any AWS carriers. T-Mobile Galaxy Note has the same hardware as AT&T or any Canadian Galaxy Note. So, if the phone is unlocked, it should work no matter where the phone was from.
You just need to find the right modem to work with Wind. Try different ones and see which one works.
Unlocking the phone doesn't change the frequencies that it can pick up does it I thought that was hardwired with the attenae
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From what I read flashing new modem still won't give you a solid connection. Look for a T-mobile note or save up for the AWS Note2.
Its not worth it to carry around an unstable phone, what happens when you need it in an emergency?
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Note supports all frequencies required for Wind or any AWS carriers. T-Mobile Galaxy Note has the same hardware as AT&T or any Canadian Galaxy Note. So, if the phone is unlocked, it should work no matter where the phone was from.
You just need to find the right modem to work with Wind. Try different ones and see which one works.
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"supports" and works correctly are not the same. I can put low octane gasoline in my car, and it will run, but it will run very poorly. My experience will suffer compared to the experience of running with the correct fuel.
I'm just saying since we have the versions for both networks, get the best phone, and quit working so hard to have only a so-so experience.
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"supports" and works correctly are not the same. I can put low octane gasoline in my car, and it will run, but it will run very poorly. My experience will suffer compared to the experience of running with the correct fuel.
I'm just saying since we have the versions for both networks, get the best phone, and quit working so hard to have only a so-so experience.
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My point is that T-Mo Note is the same as all other Note hardware-wise. The only difference is that T-Mo is locked to its network with its own software.
To use Wind, he is going to have to unlock the phone with T-Mo or other carrier-locked Note. So, if he already has a Note in-hand, it is just a matter of finding the right ROM/radio/modem.
IF current radio/modem selections really are less than 100% stable, it is OP's decision to find a T-Mo Note (if that guarantees 100% stable service), or to wait for new radio/modem.
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Try padwan. I use wind as well and this rom runs great
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Clearly, this guy has no problem with Wind, and there is a working solution out there. OP just needs to work a little to find it.
If you flash a t-mobile rom on the at&t phone and vise-versa, neither phone works correctly. So they may look the same on paper but they are not the same inside.
If you think they are the same hardware, go to the t-mobile note development thread and flash the stock ICS and you will find out they are not the same.
When I was on Wind, I didn't have trouble using the Telus and Vk1 modded modems worked fine. The Blaze modem was terrible though.
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When I was on Wind, I didn't have trouble using the Telus and Vk1 modded modems worked fine. The Blaze modem was terrible though.
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Alright so how do I flash the VK1 modem and update to the latest available ROM?
When I was testing on Wind, Blaze modem actually worked the best.
Rom and radio/modem are independent of each other, and rom didn't seem to affect my network connectivity.
Hi guys,
I have the Galaxy note i717 from rogers it is similar to the ATT version. So i just sim unlocked it and am not using wind mobile. It has been working fine out the box on 4G and 3G. i looked at the specs and it was the AWS was for LTE, so im confused how is this working with wind on 3G and 4G since i didnt do any modifications. is there fall back?
use the latest radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45800942&postcount=243
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use the latest radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45800942&postcount=243
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@ ALLGamer
I do not want to root this phone or flash anything. I am just asking how is it possible that it is working without modifications and I want to confirm that it is in fact working.
Check the base band, it will tell you which radio it's using, out of the box will not work with Wind
Most likely some body already flashed a compatible radio to it before you had it
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use the latest radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45800942&postcount=243
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Check the base band, it will tell you which radio it's using, out of the box will not work with Wind
Most likely some body already flashed a compatible radio to it before you had it
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That may be becuase i bought it unlocked at a shop. So if it was not modified than it wont wokr? what would happen if i put a wind sim in an unmodified phone would it show wind away all the time. So since mine just says wind and not wind away does that mean it was modified and it is working
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That may be becuase i bought it unlocked at a shop. So if it was not modified than it wont wokr? what would happen if i put a wind sim in an unmodified phone would it show wind away all the time. So since mine just says wind and not wind away does that mean it was modified and it is working
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actually, on an original i717 if you just stick in a Wind SIM card, you won't even get network service within the city
if you go out to roaming areas, then yes you will get Wind Away
Hey guys! Soon I'll be buying a G2 outright. I'm on Telus in Canada and I'm just wondering if it really matters what variant I buy. I see a few different models available to buy unlocked and just wanna be sure there's no big difference for me which one I buy.
I suppose if they'll all work just fine, then I should go with the best dev supported model....if there is one.
Thanks for any input.
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All the phones in Canada are the D803 version but I got mine through Wind Mobile which is the D801 and came factory unlocked.
Software versions between the 2 are different as well but I'm not sure what is different.
I'm not sure if there are any major differences between the Canadian models but things I saw through xda are that my D801 from Wind is missing the 3rd mic located by the flash. I haven't tried it yet, but I read that this affects the audio zoom function by rendering it barely recognizable and/or useless.
Also, not sure if you would care (but matters to me) is that I am unable to set my D801 LG G2 camera to mute without rooting and flashing another rom.
Thanks! So 803 may be best then. I see just about all the variants available. So maybe I'll focus on the 803.
I'm really hoping signal strength is better than my S2. I gotta go outside where I live to talk or text. Lol
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kj2112 said:
Thanks! So 803 may be best then. I see just about all the variants available. So maybe I'll focus on the 803.
I'm really hoping signal strength is better than my S2. I gotta go outside where I live to talk or text. Lol
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The phone is good for reception considering I never get reception in the underground parking with my old any Samsung lol but my phone was ringing with this phone confused the hell out of me
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The phone is good for reception considering I never get reception in the underground parking with my old any Samsung lol but my phone was ringing with this phone confused the hell out of me
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Awesome! Really bad signal where I live....but my wife's iPhone 4s works in the house, usually, and my S2 never does. Grrrr!
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Can anyone confirm that the LTE bands on the Rogers D803 are the same as Bellus?
I may go with a d802....at this point there seems to be more development for it. We'll see in a bit when I'm ready to buy if that changes or not. But seems there isn't much for the 803.
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Can anyone confirm that the LTE bands on the Rogers D803 are the same as Bellus?
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Yes they both use AWS for LTE (Bell and Rogers also have access to BRS 2600, but TELUS doesn't).
I'm using D802
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I'm using D802
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Where did you buy?
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Where did you buy?
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I'm Chinese.
yyz123 said:
All the phones in Canada are the D803 version but I got mine through Wind Mobile which is the D801 and came factory unlocked.
Software versions between the 2 are different as well but I'm not sure what is different.
I'm not sure if there are any major differences between the Canadian models but things I saw through xda are that my D801 from Wind is missing the 3rd mic located by the flash. I haven't tried it yet, but I read that this affects the audio zoom function by rendering it barely recognizable and/or useless.
Also, not sure if you would care (but matters to me) is that I am unable to set my D801 LG G2 camera to mute without rooting and flashing another rom.
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803 is missing 3rd Mic too ?
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Can a 802 or 801 rom work on the 803? Just curious that is all..