Hi Guys,
Now I am totally confused, another phone in 3 months that too with superior features than Xperia S !!!
I think I should wait now
Source:
http://www.itproportal.com/2012/03/08/iphone-4s-rival-alert-sony-release-another-superphone-june/
And you just confused even more people.
Or wait 2 years maybe even better phones will show!
If you go by the "Wait til this or this comes" with tech, you will never end up with a new phone I'm afraid.
I'm sure there's a bunch of better phones in the workings at the moment, but I chose this phone (and my X10, and even my X1) because I liked them when they were released, and didn't worry about next months phone.
Out technology is becoming more and more advanced, and company's are naturally trying to 1-up each other, so there will always be "something better coming".
In the end it's your decision though, but I chose to spend the next two years with this fantastic beast of a phone and I don't think I will regret it .
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Or wait 2 years maybe even better phones will show!
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no mate, actually I was just about to buy the xperia S on saturday from the current IT show in Singapore but this article !!!
I know phones will keep coming & I am really not interested in ant other brands..but there are certain things which are holding me:
1. Xperia Arc still looks good, better than Xperia S.
2. Camera also looks similar.
3. No physical buttons on Xperia S.
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no mate, actually I was just about to buy the xperia S on saturday from the current IT show in Singapore but this article !!!
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Hell no, why on earth buy from IT show when the outside shops are selling at 730 SGD???
NEVER buy anyhting from the SG IT show except harddrives and memory. Everything else is RRP.
I think now I will go for recontact, I am eligible for early renewal on 29th march.
Dont wait for this new phone you mentioned, because by the time that comes out something better will be announced and the cycle continues.
The whole reason why Sony fully bought over is to increase the release and production of new models. So I'm really surprised if another superphone will be out soon. They have a lot of catching up to do.
And I just bought my XPS from the IT Show yesterday. It comes with free media dock & the small square android display thingy(can't remember the name since it's at home). =D
I'm the type who usually buy the "other color" for SE phones but after I got the white XPS i kinda regret it. It looks like a toy. =x. So anyone who are going to buy their XPS, make sure you see the unboxed version before you choose your color. Cuz I can't change mine after they unboxed it or me.
PS: And there's an issue if you are using OSX. Cuz it didn't detect my XPS, although it works fine with Arc.
Still loving my Arc.
sent from xperia aRc !!
Well I just saw that there was indeed a new phone leaked.......
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_mt27i_pepper_shows_up_in_a_press_shot-news-3961.php
The pepper, but I'm not sure if it will be anything special or worth waiting for. This also has no rumored release date so far, but I'm curious about the rest of that line.
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Sony should've kept the Nozomi name instead of Xperia S.
The Xperia tag belongs to Ericsson and the stigma is still attached.
Plus Nozomi sounds badass.
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Well I just saw that there was indeed a new phone leaked.......
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_mt27i_pepper_shows_up_in_a_press_shot-news-3961.php
The pepper, but I'm not sure if it will be anything special or worth waiting for. This also has no rumored release date so far, but I'm curious about the rest of that line.
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This is not the phone people are referring to. They are referring to the Hayabusa LT29.
Hayabusa by June..
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Wait for the one in June...or wait..maybe not...wait for the one in september, but if you really want i would suggest to wait for the one in 2050 because that one will rule them all . Til then i bought this Xperia S magnific smartphone.
Blah blah. All we know - from GSMArena interview - they MAY release something new this year, just because digital world develops very fast. But Xperia S is the flagship and will be for some time. And I don't mean weeks.
Im not so sure about this new superphone coming this year, I believe I read somewhere that they won't release a quad-core this year because its currently not really useful as most apps don't even use dual-core to its full potential. I will see if I can dig up the article The S is the flagship this year and this hayabusa if it comes out is rumored to be the next Xperia play which had that codename. Rumors are rumors
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-might-not-release-quad-core-smartphones-this-year_id27551
If we are lucky, a S4 phone will be released (read play2 or hayabusa), but really I couldn't care less, I am more than happy with my S thank you
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Im not so sure about this new superphone coming this year, I believe I read somewhere that they won't release a quad-core this year because its currently not really useful as most apps don't even use dual-core to its full potential. I will see if I can dig up the article The S is the flagship this year and this hayabusa if it comes out is rumored to be the next Xperia play which had that codename. Rumors are rumors
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-might-not-release-quad-core-smartphones-this-year_id27551
If we are lucky, a S4 phone will be released (read play2 or hayabusa), but really I couldn't care less, I am more than happy with my S thank you
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Hayabusa will definitely resemble last year's product. Just not the PLAY
shmoejoe said:
Im not so sure about this new superphone coming this year, I believe I read somewhere that they won't release a quad-core this year because its currently not really useful as most apps don't even use dual-core to its full potential. I will see if I can dig up the article The S is the flagship this year and this hayabusa if it comes out is rumored to be the next Xperia play which had that codename. Rumors are rumors
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-might-not-release-quad-core-smartphones-this-year_id27551
If we are lucky, a S4 phone will be released (read play2 or hayabusa), but really I couldn't care less, I am more than happy with my S thank you
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Same here enjoying my Xperia S
Read in a few places the Hayabusa will probably be the successor to the Xperia play, if it is it will have a better screen resolution and probably quality then the PSVita, tho not sure if Sony would want to bring out something to compete with the Vita so soon.
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Hello,
I just want some opinions on how future proof people think the sgs2 is.
The prices have dropped a bit.
but im mainly concerned over the new hardware that is coming in early 2012, as well as the galaxy nexus as an alternative..
Thanks
its one of the fastest smoothest phones available today it can support Ice Cream sandwich and who keeps a phone more than a couple of years anyway the early quad cores are coming soon so it's good for a couple of years reckon I'll get a an sgsIII when my contract runs out next august depending on specs etc
nesx87 said:
Hello,
I just want some opinions on how future proof people think the sgs2 is.
The prices have dropped a bit.
but im mainly concerned over the new hardware that is coming in early 2012, as well as the galaxy nexus as an alternative..
Thanks
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The Galaxy S II is pretty future proof, one of the reasons I bought it.
I remember one of the first reviews mentioned it as a 'plus'. Its future proof.
One of the reasons is it contains so many things, like bluetooth 3.0, DNLa, MHL (HDMI), Wifi Direct and a lot of crap of wirless options.
Second it has still one of the best dual core processors. While quad core processors might start showing up in phones in 2012, everything is still being optimized for dual core. At the end of 2012/beginning of 2013 it may be smart to buy a quad core phone. The idea is this dual core processor wil be good for at least another 1,5 year.
The screen is nice, its no HD 720p resolution but that doesnt mean our WVGA res isnt future proof.
Anyways... Ice Cream Sandwich has been officialy confirmed by Samsung. And after that, we have XDA that will put out perfect ROMs with the future Android versions.
Anyways... I would say its future proof. As long as you dont mind not having 'the latest of everytjing'. Because sooner or later better phone's will come out (that doesnt mean the S II will not be excellent anymore!)
Nothing is future proof... Better question is, what will hold its resale value.
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I think that SG2 is best you can buy at the moment and for the next 1 year it will be one of mostly wanted phones......
The only thing it lacks for future proof is an HD screen and a quad core. However, SMAOLED+ is the best looking screen technology out right now and Exynos is the fastest dual core SoC.
Basically, the SGS2 will be good for another year but after that I would consider upgrading.
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I also like to think that A LOT of geeks decided to upgrade to this phone when it was released. It was hyped a lot before release, and it just said BOOM! It is now the best android mobile out there.
-Because of this this exact mobile is going to have an incredible amount of fans out there developing roms, tweaks and whatnot...
It sure will be future software wise, and if you really think about what the hardware specs are good for - I don't think you will disappointed in the next two years or so
Thats my opinion anyway...
This phone is like htc desire in his time, it was relased 14.5.2010 and now year and a half from then is still great phone so i think that SGS2 will be great for next year and more....
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jukosic said:
This phone is like htc desire in his time, it was relased 14.5.2010 and now year and a half from then is still great phone so i think that SGS2 will be great for next year and more....
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The desire users have now all run into it's limitations, mainly a huge lack of internal storage space. Only tweakers will start using a2sd+, so most people will just live with the limitations.
Android 2.2 is also one of those limitations, only tweakers will be able to upgrade to anything higher.
And physical buttons that lose functionality as well, not to mention the crappy camera!
So, it's not about what Mr. XDA can do with the phone, it will be whatever Joe/Jane average will be able to do with it 12-18 months from now compared to new smartphones what will determine the value.
I was youst saying about hardweare specs, desire had the best HW spec for his time and he last for quite some time now....
2013, sgs2 still going strong ICS is old news... JB now, lol...
Why resurrect this thread?
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its not future proof at all in fact official software updates will end after 4.2.1/4.2.2
and roms such as cyanogen mod will not upgrade to the next android version since samsung doesn't provide support
Nothing is future proof... We're always looking for and creating something new... This is a good phone, the only thing that can out do it is hardware... Android is running out of things to apply or implement into phones... They didn't even come up with a new name for 4.2.x... I look forward to see what exotic dessert they'll name the next, lol...
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I look forward to see what exotic dessert they'll name the next, lol...
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I thought Key Lime Pie name for the upcoming release was already known, was it not?
It's funny, digging up a thread from 2011 about how future-proof this phone is... By now, I think the time has shown that in 2011 it was quite future-proof indeed. I'd say at the moment it's still very capable device, which in the world of tech and electronics is truly amazing.
Samsung Galaxy S III is a mighty beast? Agreed. Does it have the meanest specs? It does. Can it be upgraded to Android's latest when it comes? Might not be.
S III reviews are coming out and here's a quote from The Verge's review-
"One thing that goes consistently overlooked with respect to Samsung’s phones is the company’s ignominious track record with Android software updates. There may be worse offenders out there, but Samsung’s chronic failure to update its devices on time (or at all) is a significant black mark for a brand looking to lead the way in almost every other respect. Thus, as much as I may enjoy the Galaxy S III today, I have to temper that enthusiasm with the knowledge that its long-term future may not be as rosy as that of a stock Android device"
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/25/3042640/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review
The Galaxy S II ICS update hasn't come to India yet where Sony is almost ready to release ICS updates for their low-end range in a week, despite S II being a flagship. People in this forum are constantly doubting Sony's commitment to their customers. I don't know why but they should never. For a company which is willing to support the developer community for the greater good, nothing speaks more trust than that. So if you worried about the ICS update or future updates about your XPERIA S, never worry. Just wait for a couple of weeks more and you will get it.
So will you trust Sony?
i owned an xperia x10->ray and now xperia s.
the xps is a very good phone i can say is fantastic, i played some howers a go a game made by qualcomm it self (snapdragon) the game is Desert wind still in very very alpha and not even completed and i can say that game completly destroys all tegra 3 games i ever seen!
but lets be honest the galaxy s3 is a better phone in many aspects, is a newer high end phone is normal to be better, not only for the futures he comes with but for the hardware to, if i should buy a new phone right now i'll wait for the galaxy s 3!
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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Even my X10 MP could run ICS. But that's marketing. It has been like that and always will be.
Xperia for life..
Sony simply love the aftermarket developers, users need.
They are social company, not some kind of competitor like apple or samsung, they aiming only for money..
Sony aim also on money, but taking in mind care of users, satisfaction of user, being reliable, accepting if they mistake in something (arc case, xperia s screen) and wiling to repair it for free...
what do you need more?
great phone poor support
i cant think of many reasons, and i have the xperia s,
it has a better screen (ppi) and i prefer the look of the xperia s, when ics comes to the xperia s i might be able to find more however with the s3 having a much larger battery, current reviews(benchmarks) say it has twice the standby time of the htc one x,
although samsung have fallen in the update area, sony have been far from good with theres with something as small as firmware and ics, three, tmobile and orange have all released there version of the .73 firmware to fix the battery drain issue and there is no generic version released as yet and wont be for some weeks, i developed the yellow tint on my first xperia s and had to wait 6 weeks for my phone to be returned, not sure what samsung are like at this but from my point of view i paid £400 for as phone that went dead after 42 days !!!! i should have had a replacement set to me not a repair
then there is ics which has a big stamp on the box saying its upgradable, the one x comes out with it, the 2011 range get it and still another month or two wait for there so called flagship to recieve the update when samsung s2 recieved the upgrade before sony got it to the 2011 range aswell,
sony were once the best in the market but now there one of the worst for it,
as much as i love the phone to pieces and wouldnt swap it for anything else on the market at the moment the support from sony and the timely updates are appalling,
i even had a chat with sony support and asked when the 73 firmware update will be released for generic uk users and his response was "do you mean ics" further training needed too i think,
plus on the xperia s
screen
camera
playstation certified
panorama 3d photos,
hdmi support
styling (see thru cap at bottom is a very good touch esp in a dark room/club)
plus on the samsung
processor
lte version to be released
additional micro sd slot ( i know 32gb is enough but what about when you want to print photos direct from the phone in store) micro sd does come in handy
ics already pre installed,
better browsing due to ics
better multitaksing due to ics the list can go on
when xperia s gets ics i still think the xperia s will be the better phone as you dont need a quad core nowadays but it has to be listed as a pro for the s3, i doubt you will get the use of it for another year or so until some advanced apps come out,
pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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The Samasung track record for updating is much much worse than Sony. Sony is one of the best when it comes to updating for Android. Also I would rather have them wait and release an almost perfect version than push out a crummy one. Go test the HTC One series which have lag issues in ICS and you will see what I mean.
pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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You should try owning a Motorola if you think Sony have done you a disservice.
Fanboi threads are fail. Sony lost alot of good will with the fiasco that was the x10. Samsung ran rings around them and to be fair, and speaking as an S user, they still do. Updates? Sony vs Samsung? It's a no brainer. The S2 didn't get to where it is by shoddy after market support, quite the contrary. If it wasn't for the vast number of pissed off customers the x10 would still be running 2.1. Sony lovers devs? The lols just keep coming. All the aftermarket devs have done has been to show just how incompetent Sony are, how they try to hoodwink their less tech savvy customers by spinning utter bull**** about hardware limitations etc... And the list goes on. 3 months down the line im still waiting to be able to have some fun with my S. Silly me, should have held on to my brilliant S2 and waited for a proper phone by a manufacturer that knows how to please the masses.
Well, I would never, ever consider the Xperia S over the S3. Never. Xperia S in my opinion is a competitor of the GNex. S3? No.
The Hayabusa will be that phone.
And about the updates, remember that Carriers are the biggest problem, specially in these cases of "not in my country!"
And didn't Sony just said they won't update the Xperia Play? I mean, seriously?
lol where is the update for the original flagship arc? They updated the mid end neo V and ray but not the arc how wonderful!! And did you hear they cancelled the update for the xperia play despite "promising" it?
Wait wait where is the update for the xperia S for that matter? Are you even serious making this topic? So what if the S2 update hasnt reached india yet? It's pretty simple to put another country firmware, you really dont need indian firmware just because one lives in india. There is hardly any difference.
Samsung has bad support for their mid end and low end phones yes thats true but it doesnt apply in the slightest bit to their flagship. The galaxy S was one of the first phones after nexus S to get gingerbread. Galaxy S wasnt updated to ICS but neither was any other phone from it's time.
It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.
I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
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It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.
I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
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If you cut down the SGSII variants that are a problem of the carriers, the number of devices goes down.
Plus, they should be working in the update of the Xperia S even before it's release. I dunno why they did this the way they did. They screwed up big time IMO.
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It's unfortunate that the Xperia PLAY won't get ICS, but it's down to issues with the gamepad and changes in ICS - which would ultimately require most Xperia PLAY optimised games to be modified.
I think Sony realised that this was not practical and had to make a tough decision. Yes, it does mean they can no longer claim to be upgrading every single 2011 model - but one exception is still pretty good compared to all of those HTC, Samsung, LG and Motorola models released in 2011 that won't get updates (contrary to popular belief, Samsung did release more than the Note and Galaxy S II last year!).
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HTC is updating most of it's phones as well, even the desire HD which was launched in 2010!! You cant expect them to update something like the wildfire S with a 600mhz CPU and 512MB ROM. The minimum xperia phone getting updated is 1Ghz CPU and 1GB ROM.
Samsung did mess up yes but not on their flagship, do you even know the S2 has started shipping with ICS out of the box? The verge reviewer has no idea what he is talking about.
I never recommend the cheaper samsung phones to anyone but to try to put the S3 in a negative spot because of how samsung treats it's cheaper phones is ridiculous.
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s_ii_in_india_is_now_shipping_with_android_40_ics-news-4273.php
The reviewer of The Verge is the guy who got his heart broken by Samsung in the release of the S3.
I'm just pleased to see that he did gave a 0 to the phone.
Another plus for the S3, the dev support it will have will likely be unprecedent. It's already the most preordered gadget in history (sure, the number is much higher than the real purchases because some people have pre ordered different collors and memory amount just to be safe).
Motorola sucks. I hope that with it's new CEO things will change there and they get back on the right track of producing great phones. My Motorola Milestone (2009) is able to run CM9 with it's OMAP3 550mhz (overclocked at 1ghz) and 256mb of RAM, pretty impressive for a device with a locked bootloader, IMO.
I agree with you that Xperia S is better, but your reason isn't right. The thing is everyone's impressed with the s3's specs like qead-core processor although it is something you definitely don't need these days. You will never get to a point when a dual-core will not be enough for ANY kind of software. Moreover, xperia S' camera is better and has faster processor.
Long story short, Samsung is putting a lot of effort on over mighty specifications you don't need, maybe just for the once who compare it to the S by specs only. The ICS delay is annoying I must say, but it is not that terrible.. Another month is not THAT much.
Xperia S is sexy, awesome display and camera, and very fast. Sony is my choice.
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MasterLinuxer said:
You will never get to a point when a dual-core will not be enough for ANY kind of software. Moreover, xperia S' camera is better and has faster processor.
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They said the same thing about 1Ghz single core CPU's, they always say xyz will always be enough forever but it is never the case. The biggest limitation of xperia S is actually the GPU which really could have been better for 720p resolution. 1.5Ghz dual core CPU and 1GB ram would not cause any issues for a long time.
Xperia S camera is not better just because it has more megapixels. I would think the camera is just about equal on both, the great feature the xperia S has is camera button.
And xperia has faster processor? lol wut?
pshdo said:
No i'll never trust FONY again!
It is absolutly a fatal error that FONY decided to update tre 2011 line before the new XPERIA S "flagship"...
AND...
The S/E update track record is also really not something they can be proud of...
Xperia X10 with 1.6 on launch, ages and deadlines went by before we finally got 2.1...
And then they said that X10 would not recive 2.3... Just after a huge pressure they finally decided to put together a 2.3, but without the features the phone had in 2.1 smileshutter and so on... Again we had to wait for ages...
They use excuses like hardware limitations, but really, even the X10 run ICS... Thank god for XDA!!!
And dont get me started on the whole single/dual touch issue... That was also really not something they should be proud of...
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Did Samsung Galaxy S get ICS? And mind u, Samsung sold a butt load of those.
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To a few people here, easy guys. Let's have a constructive discussion and not a bashing one. I for one am not a Sony representative and am quite an objective gadget lover - have many devices including an iPod touch (because I love Apple's OS fluidoty), a Galaxy S2, the Xperia S and the Ray. It makes sense to love everything
Now to the point I wanted to make. Companies should sometimes care about customers too. The fact that X10 got 2.3 is huge. Do you remember Samsung's first galaxy having anything more than 1.6? Do you remember the HTC Hero with more than 2.1? Sony never left these customers in the lurch. Asking for ICS when you bought the X10 is like wishing for lifetime ice-cream supply.
I will tell you another case which I think everybody should know. Samsung quietly replaced the S2 I9100 with I9100G a couple of months ago in the Indian market. What do you say is all the fuss eh? The chipset inside is not a dual-core Exynos or Mali GFX chipset. It's replaced by Cortex A9 and PowerVR SGX540. The processor was underclocked. The GPU was inferior. Asked Samsung on Twitter and they said that chipsets have been replaced but they have similar performance. Benchmarks around the world suggested otherwise. So is Samsung being very clever? Would you like to buy something that is a lie and a false promise in the first place? They just released this model in developing markets because there was a Exynos shortage for European markets so they realised why not fool the mindless buyers of lowly markets!
And I have one question at the end of this - WOULD YOU HAVE ACCEPTED SUCH MANIPULATIVE MARKET PRACTICES?
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Hardware debate again. The only valid argument for GSIII is its hardware.
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Yes, no or maybe
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Some members seem to feel we the moderators have been some what heavy handed in our dealing with these types of threads so I have decided I will reopen this thread for discusion I emphasize DUSCUSION. I expect people to remain civil with each other. If anyone starts flaming other members or this turns into a SONY SUCKS COES I GOTZ NO JB we will shut it down in a heartbeat.
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with my heart yes, but with my head NO.
so I guess i'm begging to be a guy with a " head on his shoulders"
Maybe...
I really like the Sony hardware, but the slow update cycles (Jellybean March 2013 - Really?) are making we regret buying the Xperia S. I am seriously thinking of selling it and buying a Nexus 4 instead.
The only thing that might change that decision right now, is an official ASOP Jellybean release by Sony/Google. However the ASOP tree looks dead, with no activity for ages.
Thinking that Sony have thrown in the towel with the XPeria S.
Only if it is a Sony Nexus device as it would probably be the best looking device with fastest and most up to date software.
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No never
Sony stops updates for older devices and expects us to purchase their new models
My xu 2012 released has no announcements regarding jelly bean
Bt that crap Xperia j will b updated
Why? Bcoz it was released recently
drsanket_xperia_u said:
No never
Sony stops updates for older devices and expects us to purchase their new models
My xu 2012 released has no announcements regarding jelly bean
Bt that crap Xperia j will b updated
Why? Bcoz it was released recently
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That's life. Xperia U is an entry level phone, it was released with Gingerbread, and got an ICS update. Show me another manufacturer that bothers to update the base OS on their entry level phones.
I dun consider a phone priced at 16000 to b entry level
Its a mid range
And it was released in may 2012 when all other major manufacturers were shipping wid ics on board
So getting released wid 2.3 was a negative aspect of SONY as this phone was considered to b a NXT phone
So ics was mandatory for it
Bt it got just a single official update ( which logically it should have been shipped wod)
U can call galaxy mini, htc explorer, sony xperia tipo to b entry level as they are priced below 10000INR
@the admins,
When I can't have my Sony love thread due to possible flaming then this thread might not be a good idea either.
@the thread,
My heart is with Sony. My ICS is perfect and when I get JB in the same quality I will buy again.
Another important point for me stays the support of CM. actually that's more important to me than official JB.
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No. This phone has good ideas, but fails in the execution.
ICS for Sola in September 2012. Really? When I brought a new phone, I expected an upgrade, or at least ICS --> ICS. Not ICS --> GB.
Floating touch is, again, a good idea. But it is fairly useless and is impossible to type with.
Given the price of the Nexus 4, not a chance of me buying Sony again.
CrazyPeter said:
Maybe...
I really like the Sony hardware, but the slow update cycles (Jellybean March 2013 - Really?) are making we regret buying the Xperia S. I am seriously thinking of selling it and buying a Nexus 4 instead.
The only thing that might change that decision right now, is an official ASOP Jellybean release by Sony/Google. However the ASOP tree looks dead, with no activity for ages.
Thinking that Sony have thrown in the towel with the XPeria S.
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who said that the JB will appear in march ?
MrBelter said:
Given the price of the Nexus 4, not a chance of me buying Sony again.
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Yes, how much will it cost?
"The 8GB version (unlocked) is priced at $299, while the 16GB version is $349. T-Mobile USA will carry the 16GB LG Nexus 4, though with a price of $199 and a 2-year contract, it doesn't sound like much of a deal.
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Not a chance. I told myself the same thing after my X10 but was foolishly drawn in by the XS (no patience). I will never buy another Sony phone again. Apart from the awful update cycle this phone has become utterly boring and ICS has made it very buggy. You should be able to get £150-200 for this phone so only pay ~£100 on top for the 16Gb Nexus. Can't wait!
Sony always stays a generation behind.
When others release quad core phones it releases dual core.
Besides the buttons if my neo v worn off within three months
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only if they start sticking bigger batteries on their phones.
Sony used to pride itself on battery performance on their portable devices in the 90s, now their phones can hardly match the Battery longevity of a cheapo Chinese brand phone.
They also need to do something about their updates, the galaxy s3 and HTC one x both launched after the s and both are already officially running jelly bean.
They should release 1 or 2 flagships per year and put all their resources to make sure they are kept up to date for at least 1.5 years with no delays pushing out updates.
I think I might get the n4 and see if Sony get their shtt together before supporting them again.
Toon10 said:
Yes, how much will it cost?
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UK is £239 for 8GB and £279 for 16GB. My Xperia S cost me £420.
MrBelter said:
Given the price of the Nexus 4, not a chance of me buying Sony again.
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Same here
Nexus 4 will beat the hell out of all
nemer12 said:
who said that the JB will appear in march ?
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I was being conservative, it may be later.
The 2012 phones are all still 6 months away from getting Jellybean on them, according to Sony.
For now, AOKP on my S is fine but as soon as the Nexus 4 lands here in Germany, I'll leave Sony for good.
Hi there, I'm thinking of buying the Tablet Z but wonder if its worth waiting for the refresh/successor ?
The only bit of information i can find is this:
http://ipsmart.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/configure-xperia-tablet-z-2nd.html
I asked Sony and was told they have no information...
You do realize that IFA already happened right?
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Good Guy Mark said:
You do realize that IFA already happened right?
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Yeah but from what I can remember there was no mention of the tablet ?
Good Guy Mark said:
You do realize that IFA already happened right?
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Doesn't mean any more devices can't be announced.
@Zaim2012 , rumours says of a Xperia Z1 Tablet, which will be more like a refresh rather than a new device.
S800 and Triluminous screen, basically. Rest will be the same..
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Doesn't mean any more devices can't be announced.
@Zaim2012 , rumours says of a Xperia Z1 Tablet, which will be more like a refresh rather than a new device.
S800 and Triluminous screen, basically. Rest will be the same..
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Thanks, I guess I'll have a think, I just hope it's not £500 on release.
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Thanks, I guess I'll have a think, I just hope it's not £500 on release.
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Rumors says same price as XTZ now. And XTZ will drop the price. Bad luck for me as I'm getting it in 20 days or so...
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Zaim2012 said:
Hi there, I'm thinking of buying the Tablet Z but wonder if its worth waiting for the refresh/successor ?
The only bit of information i can find is this:
http://ipsmart.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/configure-xperia-tablet-z-2nd.html
I asked Sony and was told they have no information...
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Successor ? Are you kidding? It was only launched in May.
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Successor ? Are you kidding? It was only launched in May.
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And what?
They already presented Z1, succesor of Xperia Z, wich have also been released on May LOL
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And what?
They already presented Z1, succesor of Xperia Z, wich have also been released on May LOL
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According to Wikipedia the xperia z was launched 1st of March (UK) - but hey, I guess that's close enough to May
Anyway, I like what they've done with the Z1. They'll probably do the same with the Tablet Z, I guess.
I was just thinking about the same matter in the other thread in the General section.
My guess is Sony already has it, but didn't show at IFA because they didn't get the software ready in time (considering that they rushed to be able to present the XZ1 with a pre-release software).
The XTZ is already on the remaining stock list at our mobile phone operator, and pretty much sold out, so they will be waiting for the XTZ1 as well. Hopefully it will have GSM voice communication in addition to IP58, Snapdragon 800 + Adreno 330, 3GB RAM and a better camera.
But well, I have time, I'll get my first two tablets (for free) not before the beginning of next year, when my two data plans are due for renewal.
Well the Experia tablet z kitchen edition is now released, is that the successor Lol
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/12/sony-xperia-tablet-z-kitchen/
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big ach said:
Well the Experia tablet z kitchen edition is now released, is that the successor Lol
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/12/sony-xperia-tablet-z-kitchen/
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No, that is just a Xperia Tablet Z like everyone else has, but with some kitchen accessories and maybe few apps...
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No, that is just a Xperia Tablet Z like everyone else has, but with some kitchen accessories and maybe few apps...
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Yah, I know I'm just teasing. Lol
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Lol Kitchen edition.
I'm still unsure as to what I should do, go ahead and buy the tablet z or wait for the new one, no info on release date,price and official specs.
Can get the Tablet Z for £350.
There hasn't even been rumours of a successor has there? General wisdom is if you are always waiting for the next one to come out you're never going to have anything
Sony updates their tablets yearly, not like their phones (which are updated like every 6 months), so there wont be a new tablet til may I think (though it was announced first in japan).
I bought one a month ago and its actually pretty god for what I use it to (casual gaming, browsing, reading books, social, etc) and its the best tablet I've come up to light, thin and really really beautiful..
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Lol Kitchen edition.
I'm still unsure as to what I should do, go ahead and buy the tablet z or wait for the new one, no info on release date,price and official specs.
Can get the Tablet Z for £350.
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If you want a damned good tablet then I would go with the XTZ, especially since there aren't even any credible or half decent rumors floating around on an updated XTZ.
If it were me I wouldn't wait another 6 months to get the updated version, one reason being that even if they do update all the components you most likely won't be able to tell. The XTZ is fast as hell, the screen is FHD (even if they updated with a screen like is in the new Nexus tabs you wouldn't be able to tell the graphics were any better), everything I have thrown at it (including Arena and the extra large Daggerfall install running in Dosbox Turbo, both of the GTA games on the market, and a ****load of other resource intensive games) haven't slowed it down or caused any lag whatsoever. If you really have to have the newest processor then wait til Samsung releases their new tabs or wait on the new rumored Transformer pad to drop, just know you could be waiting 6 months or more for those to drop too.
I always craved the latest and best hardware but with the XTZ I don't have that issue anymore, it is able to withstand anything I can throw at it and then some. To me it isn't worth waiting on the next "X" tab to drop, the XTZ is and will be able to stand toe to toe with a lot of the newly released and upcoming tabs.
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If you want a damned good tablet then I would go with the XTZ, especially since there aren't even any credible or half decent rumors floating around on an updated XTZ.
If it were me I wouldn't wait another 6 months to get the updated version, one reason being that even if they do update all the components you most likely won't be able to tell. The XTZ is fast as hell, the screen is FHD (even if they updated with a screen like is in the new Nexus tabs you wouldn't be able to tell the graphics were any better), everything I have thrown at it (including Arena and the extra large Daggerfall install running in Dosbox Turbo, both of the GTA games on the market, and a ****load of other resource intensive games) haven't slowed it down or caused any lag whatsoever. If you really have to have the newest processor then wait til Samsung releases their new tabs or wait on the new rumored Transformer pad to drop, just know you could be waiting 6 months or more for those to drop too.
I always craved the latest and best hardware but with the XTZ I don't have that issue anymore, it is able to withstand anything I can throw at it and then some. To me it isn't worth waiting on the next "X" tab to drop, the XTZ is and will be able to stand toe to toe with a lot of the newly released and upcoming tabs.
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New tablet is slated for spring of 2014 to replace the current XTZ. That was all the info I have gotten from my contact. No specs as of yet though I would expect at least a snapdragon 800. As it stands I'm still very happy I got my XTZ. Great tablet. If I hear more on the new one I will let you all know.
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Thanks for the replies, I've gone ahead and ordered the Tablet Z
@Spectre51 Cheers, Spring 2014 is still about 6 months away so its pointless waiting.
anyone else looked at this phone? seems like a decent replacement and not too small.
if not, what else are people moving onto?
given up on sony releasing
I'm just looking at nexus, blackberry if the rumors is true that they will move on to android, or the classic HTC.
HTC is probably the manufacturer you can't go wrong with. If you look at this part of the XDA forum..its filled with devs making roms and kernels.
I think s810 is just temporarily. Maybe next year there will be a new series of soc that won't overheat as this years release.
Its just the same as with the tegra 3. You could fry eggs on it. But HTC moved on and improved their devices. And I hope they will release another beast in the near future.
Huawei is enlarging their market on mobile devices but I think its to early to invest in one of those devices. I want there to be devs who makes roms so I don't have to rely only on the stock rom/firmware to work when something goes wrong. If that ever happens...who knows.
Samsung is a no go. They don't exist in my world. Last and only device I owned was the SII Exynos 4210. They make good electronics elsewhere but not mobile devices.
LG is also a no go. Only nexus. To much plastic, big LG logo and weird cheap looking software interface on stock rom. Reminds me of MIUI and Huawei.
SONY is moving from europe home to japan. Okay...weird. So then I just won't buy your stuff then. Bye..I will never buy a sony mobile device again.
When "I" am buying a device. I am only buying the flagships. Because I am looking for an investment that will last for many years and won't seem slow even after four years compared to newer devices. And also the general lifetime of the device. I want there to be devs here on the forum that I can rely on after device has reached the end-of-lifetime.
The Z ultra is a bit special. It has the same hardware specs as its brother Z1....so for performance I would still call this a kind of side show flagship despite the low spec camera.
i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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I don't have any experience of motorola exept for the old classic pagers and radios. I've never seen a moto x in real life so I don't really have any opinion. Its offered at a good price yes! but yeah I really dunno. The only con I can see is the tiny battery at 2300mAh.
From what I can see its almost like some mix to a budget nexus device..almost stock rom and no bloat apps. :good:
Me myself is waiting to see what google has to offer. There is already a bunch of pics of the new nexus devices but I'm curiously waiting for the release event
3000 for the style no?
tommo123 said:
3000 for the style no?
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oops ....I probably looked at the older model. You're right its 3000mAh!
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_style-7229.php
Then it looks alright!
gave me a scare there for a sec