I'm not sure if this is a known issue, but I'm completely unable to back up roms. I've tried with both ROM manager and manually doing it in Clockwork Mod Touch without any success. So now I'm just stuck with making Titanium backups of all my apps and starting everything else from scratch.
Also, if I restore a recovery, do I still have to reflash the kernel?
I'm a bit of a noob, so be gentle lol.
Loving my rezound and all the roms, just tired of having to start over every time!
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Ya. Don't use clockwork. It does not work well for us right now. The best recovery for rezound is amon RA recovery. It does backups and restore just fine
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crazyjimbo said:
I'm not sure if this is a known issue, but I'm completely unable to back up roms. I've tried with both ROM manager and manually doing it in Clockwork Mod Touch without any success. So now I'm just stuck with making Titanium backups of all my apps and starting everything else from scratch.
Also, if I restore a recovery, do I still have to reflash the kernel?
I'm a bit of a noob, so be gentle lol.
Loving my rezound and all the roms, just tired of having to start over every time!
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Yeah, use Amon Ra. Also read the forums and take notes before you do much more to your phone. Then search. Cuz this particular issue probably has 10 threads already.
You should only have to worry about kernels when you change ROMs. Always flash the appropriate kernel when changing roms.
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Yeah, use Amon Ra. Also read the forums and take notes before you do much more to your phone. Then search. Cuz this particular issue probably has 10 threads already.
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It's good you were gentle
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I am getting ready to root my bolt. I will use the revolution tool.
I want to flash thunderstick genII Rom. In the instructions they say to flash both radios. Is this needed if the phone being rooted has already been updated OTA? Shouldn't the radios be already updated?
Secondly, if it is safe to flash roms with Rom manager, will it know to flash the two radios?
Thanks!
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Radios are flashed in hboot ONLY! Look for a tutorial in the stickied topics
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From looking at the original post for the thunderstick genII Rom it is a sense gingerbread ROM. It will use "MR2+" radios most likely (please don't make add the disclaimer... I'm not responsible for you turning your phone into a paper weight). They will be MR2 or MR2.5 etc.
Long story short, you should use what the dev. of the ROM suggests for the radio. It typically gives the best performance, least chance of bugs, and best battery life for the ROM. Follow the instructions in the post using HBOOT (Power on with the volume down pressed).
From the original post:
"install these radios
To do so,
1 - Downloaded the "CDMA" first file below to the ROOT of your SDCARD,
2 - Name the file PG05IMG.zip and reboot to your boot loader.
3 - Then follow the the prompts to install the update. Delete the file immediately after reboot.
4 - Repeat these steps for the second file "LTE". And you will have a upgraded radio that will work great with this ROM."
Not sure if the address space is accessible from CWR for radios, so you have to use hboot. It can be dangerous. Follow the steps, and if it is you first time, do the research!!!! There are much more involved guides.
I'm guessing that since radios and roms are flashed in different modes - hboot and recovery - devs can't include radios?
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I'm guessing that since radios and roms are flashed in different modes - hboot and recovery - devs can't include radios?
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They wouldn't even if they could. There would be so many pissed users it wouldn't be funny. I'd be one of them. Nobody like flashing radios because its a far riskier deal.
Well to get thunderstick going I need to do both radios.
The tuts for flashing radios made it seem like flashing any other thing. Now you have me questioning doing this. This Rom is what I want from my phone...a tweaked sense rom.
If I'm right CWM let's you get to hboot to flash radios, right. And it let's you get to recovery to flash the Rom.
Jeez I came from a iPhone 3g and Jailbreaking was easy compared to this.
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Well to get thunderstick going I need to do both radios.
The tuts for flashing radios made it seem like flashing any other thing. Now you have me questioning doing this. This Rom is what I want from my phone...a tweaked sense rom.
If I'm right CWM let's you get to hboot to flash radios, right. And it let's you get to recovery to flash the Rom.
Jeez I came from a iPhone 3g and Jailbreaking was easy compared to this.
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For some reason I've notice a lot of people calling RomManager by "CWM" lately and for some reason it annoys me. ClockworkMod is the "company name" Koush uses to identify his apps/products. The app you are referring to is RomManager and the recovery is called ClockworkMod Recovery.
Anyway, neither CWR nor RomManager deal with hboot. You can place the file on your sdcard and manually boot to hboot (Pwr+VolDwn or the advanced power menu in some roms). Full instructions for this should not be needed here since they are all over the place including the pinned Q/A thread at the top of this subforum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220484
I'm sure this will come off harsher than it was intended. I just wanted to throw those things out there. Anyway, welcome to Android
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For some reason I've notice a lot of people calling RomManager by "CWM" lately and for some reason it annoys me. ClockworkMod is the "company name" Koush uses to identify his apps/products. The app you are referring to is RomManager and the recovery is called ClockworkMod Recovery.
Anyway, neither CWR nor RomManager deal with hboot. You can place the file on your sdcard and manually boot to hboot (Pwr+VolDwn or the advanced power menu in some roms). Full instructions for this should not be needed here since they are all over the place including the pinned Q/A thread at the top of this subforum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220484
I'm sure this will come off harsher than it was intended. I just wanted to throw those things out there. Anyway, welcome to Android
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Thank you for laying all that out there. I really cannot endorse what Absolute_Zero has to say about calling things by their proper names. When people don't do that, it gets VERY confusing when you try to help them.
Concerning ROM Manager, I don't see how it serves any useful purpose. Fixing permissions can be done just as well through a script like ScriptFusion or ClockworkMod Recovery. I know of no ROM dev that endorses flashing, wiping, backing up, or recovering through ROM Manager, which is a nice way of saying DO NOT USE ROM Manager. It's fairly reliable for flashing recoveries, but I've had issues with it even doing that right.
Just follow the instructions I've laid out for flashing radios. I've included all the links to every radio there. If you follow my directions, I can promise you with 99.9% certainty that your radio flash will go perfectly. It's nothing to be afraid of and nothing to really concern yourself with. Just don't go looking for the easy way of doing everything. This isn't a Motorola device and there's a lot more you can do outside of an app than with an app.
Actually being harsh is cool. When I said CWM I meant the recovery. I should have been more clear.
I will stay away from Rom manager and learn to flash the big boy way.
My last question is this...my SD card is pretty messy. What is the best advice to clear out the card after flashing thunderstick?
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gcodori said:
Actually being harsh is cool. When I said CWM I meant the recovery. I should have been more clear.
I will stay away from Rom manager and learn to flash the big boy way.
My last question is this...my SD card is pretty messy. What is the best advice to clear out the card after flashing thunderstick?
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The best way is to clean it up before flashing. Some ROMs install directories to the SDcard, but those should be clearly named. There's not really anything there that you can do that will render the phone junk. For me, it's just been a process of sorting through all the stuff, backing it up, formatting the card, and dropping the stuff I do want back on it.
Is there an option to format the SD card during flashing?
I have backed up my photos and any documents. After I copy over any videos I took, I would clear it out.
After installing a dozen or more apps, the card looks like a mess.
There's three folders with music in it, etc. Why can't there be an app folder with subdirectories for each app?
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gcodori said:
Is there an option to format the SD card during flashing?
I have backed up my photos and any documents. After I copy over any videos I took, I would clear it out.
After installing a dozen or more apps, the card looks like a mess.
There's three folders with music in it, etc. Why can't there be an app folder with subdirectories for each app?
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You can format it either in CWR, Android, or on a computer.
Rooted today with revolution. Pretty easy but it didn't install clockwork. Had to run it again. I noticed Rom manager doesnt recognize clockwork as installed. I wasn't planning on using Rom manager but was curious about this.
One last question before flashing thunderstick...if something fails and I revert to the nandroid backup, does that revert back to the old radio? I need to flash both radios and want to know if I can fall back to the backup if it fails.
Thanks.
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gcodori said:
Rooted today with revolution. Pretty easy but it didn't install clockwork. Had to run it again. I noticed Rom manager doesnt recognize clockwork as installed. I wasn't planning on using Rom manager but was curious about this.
One last question before flashing thunderstick...if something fails and I revert to the nandroid backup, does that revert back to the old radio? I need to flash both radios and want to know if I can fall back to the backup if it fails.
Thanks.
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Nandroid backups don't include radios.
gcodori said:
Rooted today with revolution. Pretty easy but it didn't install clockwork. Had to run it again. I noticed Rom manager doesnt recognize clockwork as installed. I wasn't planning on using Rom manager but was curious about this.
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RomManager will only recognize CWR as being installed if RomManager itself is what was used to flash it.
I'm dealing with this same thing (flashing Radios). I recently rooted my device (after having it since release) and froze the bloat. I never flashed a ROM and want to look to see if it's possible to find a ROM for my Thunderbolt that does not need me to change the Radio. If I don't Flash a ROM I'm more than happy with having root and dealing with the crapware and installing apps I couldn't use before. Good Luck. Enjoy your device.
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I'm dealing with this same thing (flashing Radios). I recently rooted my device (after having it since release) and froze the bloat. I never flashed a ROM and want to look to see if it's possible to find a ROM for my Thunderbolt that does not need me to change the Radio. If I don't Flash a ROM I'm more than happy with having root and dealing with the crapware and installing apps I couldn't use before. Good Luck. Enjoy your device.
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What's you apprehension about flashing a radio?
I flashed the 802 radio right after installing NonS3ns3v2 on my Tbolt. Everything went fine and seems to be running smoothly.
Which one are you guys using? I'm using anon ra and I like it more than cwm but just wanted to see what you guys thought.
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I really liked CWM on my Dinc, but they both seem pretty similar to me for the most part. Amon might have a few more options from the looks of it, but I have yet to try CWM for the Rezound back I heard it was kinda spotty. Once it's more stable I'll give it a go and see which one I like better. I'm just glad to finally have a recovery available
I liked cwm for my Dinc, but running amon ra now on my Rezound. It really is no difference except for small nuisances. And like the previous poster, I am just glad that we can get a recovery now.
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Always been an amon guy from EVO days. Probably will eventually use amon...
used both and so far my preference is Amon Ra.
Cares said:
Always been an amon guy from EVO days. Probably will eventually use amon...
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Same here!
Sent from my HTC Rezound!
Amen for amon.
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Installed CWM since that is what I knew, can you install AmonRa over CWM?
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Installed CWM since that is what I knew, can you install AmonRa over CWM?
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Yup...it's as easy as flashing the boot.img in fastboot like you did to flash CWM.
I'm currently using AmonRa but have used CWM since I got my Incredible. I'm kinda liking AmonRa right now so I may stick with it.
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Installed CWM since that is what I knew, can you install AmonRa over CWM?
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That's what I'd like to know also. If I try one recovery and then decide I wanna use a different recovery, is it possible to flash the new recovery over the older one?
rboddy said:
I really liked CWM on my Dinc, but they both seem pretty similar to me for the most part. Amon might have a few more options from the looks of it, but I have yet to try CWM for the Rezound back I heard it was kinda spotty. Once it's more stable I'll give it a go and see which one I like better. I'm just glad to finally have a recovery available
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+1. That pretty much covers it all. One point is that it was a lot easier to read the screen in CWM on my Incredible than it is with RA Vigor. I have to put my reading glasses on every time or I can't see what's on the screen.
j0hnnyn said:
That's what I'd like to know also. If I try one recovery and then decide I wanna use a different recovery, is it possible to flash the new recovery over the older one?
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Yes just flash the new one.
Whenever my phone dies, it boots to recovery or better known, cwm when I plug it in. Not sure why, I don't mind it. But I'm wondering why, I have the latest touch recovery from cwm. And I do want to switch to 4ext but I have a question.
1. Can it flash any rom that cwm can flash?
Thanks guys.
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Gad74 said:
Whenever my phone dies, it boots to recovery or better known, cwm when I plug it in. Not sure why, I don't mind it. But I'm wondering why, I have the latest touch recovery from cwm. And I do want to switch to 4ext but I have a question.
1. Can it flash any rom that cwm can flash?
Thanks guys.
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4ext can flash every rom that CWM can and then some.
The reason your phone turns on like that is because you are using CWM Recovery.
But I've used it before. It didn't used to do this until I flashed touch or because ics. I updated and rooted so not sure.
Is 4ext really worth it?
Is it really worth putting the effort into it?
I need to flash a radio and it says 4ext recommended.
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Gad74 said:
But I've used it before. It didn't used to do this until I flashed touch or because ics. I updated and rooted so not sure.
Is 4ext really worth it?
Is it really worth putting the effort into it?
I need to flash a radio and it says 4ext recommended.
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It doesn't require much effort and is well worth it yes.
CWM is garbage and it is a bug in the Touch version that does it.
Has nothing to do with rooting the phone.
You never had CWM before you rooted and non touch versions didn't have the bug.
It's actually about as painless as can be to switch to 4ext and is miles better in every way.
Yes you need to flash new radios for the ICS roms.
Read the Op in my thread like I said in the PM and you will find it is all very simple to do and well worth the short time it takes to do. Or not.
Your call, but you have been told many times to ditch CWM and I pretty much require it or TWRP for my roms which are currently the only recent ones you will even find for the Bolt.
Install the free app I linked you before and flash the recovery, takes maybe 3 minutes.
Thank you. Your the only one who told me if it was better. I'm switching now. And true, don't think any Better roms are going to come out.
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VOTE! Which custom recovery are you guys using on your Rezound?
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I like to rearrange data and free up space a lot of the time I'm in recovery mode as well. TWRP's UI serves that purpose best. It is also has better support from apps like TiBu than Amon Ra does.
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VOTE! Which custom recovery are you guys using on your Rezound?
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Amon Ra 3.16, better nandroids, can wipe boot.
My name's Harold and I'm a flashaholic.....
hgoldner said:
Amon Ra 3.16, better nandroids, can wipe boot.
My name's Harold and I'm a flashaholic.....
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wipe boot breaks some kernel installs.... Just sayin
I use CWM
Flyhalf205 said:
wipe boot breaks some kernel installs.... Just sayin
I use CWM
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I tried all 3. I really like the touch option. The only option I couldn't find in CWM is a way to boot back to bootloader, like the other 2 recoveries offer.
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Flyhalf205 said:
wipe boot breaks some kernel installs.... Just sayin
I use CWM
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I wonder if this is what happened to me lately. Got a replacement device last week, wiped boot and been having all kinds of problems. Sending back for another replacement tomorrow. Phone has been running hot and not charging correctly and battery has been discharging fast.
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ryryrocco said:
I wonder if this is what happened to me lately. Got a replacement device last week, wiped boot and been having all kinds of problems. Sending back for another replacement tomorrow. Phone has been running hot and not charging correctly and battery has been discharging fast.
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Some kernels won't install at all unless there is an existing kernel. We extract the ramdisk from the existing kernel rather than bundling our own, so if the kernel is not there, that part will fail and the system won't boot. Doing it that way ensures the widest possible compatibility with different ROMs and makes sure that we don't overwrite any ramdisk customizations the ROM dev made.
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Going to re-root again and probably ROM again, debating between TWRP and Amon Ra, is one any better than the other?
Probably going to ROM with Infection or XenonHD, is either one preferred with those ROMs?
Twrp is more updated and in newer ROMs there may be an update system included and to have the update automatically install for you when you click update, the recovery needs to support something called "open script" I believe that's what its called. And amon ra doesn't support that but twrp and cwm do, I actually switched from amon ra to twrp and I like it way better and the open script comes in handy when you don't want to manually install zips or updates.
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Awesome, sounds like a good enough reason for me to give TWRP a shot. Thanks.
I was using TWRP for a while with no issue and liked it. Then for some reason it started having an issue with not restoring new backups. Didn't try to reinstall but moved to CWM Touch. I like it but backups are not compatible between the two and TWRP does have more features.
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Quick question, can twrp be flashed over amon ra? And to Ace, if you look in the Infection thread I believe Neo recommends flashing with amon ra.
tholmes8291 said:
I was using TWRP for a while with no issue and liked it. Then for some reason it started having an issue with not restoring new backups. Didn't try to reinstall but moved to CWM Touch. I like it but backups are not compatible between the two and TWRP does have more features.
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Doesn't CWM Touch have the dead battery bug where it won't let the battery charge if it goes completely dead? Or has that been fixed, it would be real deal breaker for me...
JBS976 said:
Quick question, can twrp be flashed over amon ra? And to Ace, if you look in the Infection thread I believe Neo recommends flashing with amon ra.
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Yes. I prefer twrp but occasionally run into a rom/kernel that won't flash. I keep amon ra to flash on those occasions then reinstall twrp with the goomanager app
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Doesn't CWM Touch have the dead battery bug where it won't let the battery charge if it goes completely dead? Or has that been fixed, it would be real deal breaker for me...
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That was fixed a while back.
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I've never had problems with twrp on backups or installs. I've only used and been on the latest 2.5.0.0 version though
So idk if you we're on a older version or something
And you should be able to flash a recovery on top of another it just replaces the recovery.img and ROM performance shouldn't be effected by the recovery. That doesn't really make sense so use the one you want
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