So what's with the big super exciting special announcement we were supposed to get from Samsung today? Not a word. It was supposedly like a galaxy note exclusive thing or something. Just wondering.
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It was angry birds located in space! Where have u been??
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It was the lamest "big announcement" in history.
Yep it was angry birds. Kind of lame, but it does look like a sweet waste of time and it has some exclusive note stuff going on.
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You've got to be kidding? People pay a good amount of money for a device that was designated to run the latest Android OS and the big announcement is a freaking game?
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Erad, I'd like to introduce you to someone "special". This is Samsung. Samsung is much like that super hot chick that you do everything it takes to hook up with. When you finally do she just lays there like a sack of potatoes. In the end you're left with something that will still impress your friends, yet leaves you with a anticlimactic feeling inside.
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It was the lamest "big announcement" in history.
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+1 couldn't agree more
Lol!....thank you, it all seems more clear to me now that you explained it this way!
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Erad, I'd like to introduce you to someone "special". This is Samsung. Samsung is much like that super hot chick that you do everything it takes to hook up with. When you finally do she just lays there like a sack of potatoes. In the end you're left with something that will still impress your friends, yet leaves you with a anticlimactic feeling inside.
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LMAO!!!!!!
erad1 said:
You've got to be kidding? People pay a good amount of money for a device that was designated to run the latest Android OS and the big announcement is a freaking game?
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It was designed to run GB, that's why it was released with GB.
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Erad, I'd like to introduce you to someone "special". This is Samsung. Samsung is much like that super hot chick that you do everything it takes to hook up with. When you finally do she just lays there like a sack of potatoes. In the end you're left with something that will still impress your friends, yet leaves you with a anticlimactic feeling inside.
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Best explanation, ever.
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Dont they have a true big announcement scheduled for next week?
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I knew the game was coming out. I guess I'm just surprised that that was the announcement. I thought everyone already knew about it.
Glad I asked though. Gave me the opportunity to hear the best response ever.
Thanks
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I know it wasn't ICS but seriously, it was a commercial for an Android application that was filmed in freaking SPACE. Yeah, it's a cross-platform app, but this was not only centered around the Android version, but featured our phones exclusively.
I'm not hearing a lot from the Apple fanboys these days, so I'd say it was a pretty big score for us, all told.
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Dont they have a true big announcement scheduled for next week?
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There is a long-awaited Samsung mobile event on the 15th. It's really the last hope I have for any sort of news before my return window closes...
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It was designed to run GB, that's why it was released with GB.
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Well if there is no ICS soon my note may end up being designed to go back to the store and released to best buy..... Lol
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Well if there is no ICS soon my note may end up being designed to go back to the store and released to best buy..... Lol
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Just out of curiosity, what is soon? When you purchased the Note originally, when did you expect it to have ICS?
When I bought my Infuse it came with Froyo. It should have had GB and AT&T stalled for months only to release a broken GB update. Never did I think of returning the Infuse because of that. Now that I have the Note and it is running GB, I am fine with waiting for ICS. Because in all honesty, I will probably end up rooting the device and installing an ICS ROM well before anything comes out from AT&T. The ROMS that were available for the Infuse were awesome and if I were not eligible for an upgrade when I bought my Note, I would still be happily using that device.
I thought it would be updated fairly quickly with the potential the phone has, but at the same time nobody purchased the note to use it and all of a sudden a year later its updated. Don't get me wrong I love android and the note but I have always felt the ball is dropped when it comes to updates and pushing them out.. How is it that they are mentioning "jelly bean" when over 90% of the android devices that are out now don't even have ICS, and with the notes specs it is more than capable of running it if my nexus a could. As far as "soon", and I'm not sure, but possibly if not within my 30 day return period if I decide I don't want to keep it. More than likely I will keep it.
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When I bought my Infuse it came with Froyo. It should have had GB and AT&T stalled for months only to release a broken GB update. Never did I think of returning the Infuse because of that. Now that I have the Note and it is running GB, I am fine with waiting for ICS. Because in all honesty, I will probably end up rooting the device and installing an ICS ROM well before anything comes out from AT&T. The ROMS that were available for the Infuse were awesome and if I were not eligible for an upgrade when I bought my Note, I would still be happily using that device.
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Fair enough, I was trying not to root it because I didn't want to increase the flash counter. I I know there's Odin but I've heard of people using it to flash the stock rom and it increasing their counter and I didn't want to run that risk.
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OK, so if I'm reading this right, ICS is coming in Q2, but as part of a "Premium Suite"? The word "Premium" usually implies $$$, at least in my experience.
Maybe someone with more insight can read this and tell me what they come away with?
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=12602
I do notice that they are showing the international version in the photos, but still...
I'm new-ish to the Samsung game, at least for mobile phones, so I haven't worked out their FUD protocol yet.
Oh, and if this has already been posted/debunked/whatever, sorry for the redundancy.
You will not have to pay for it I'm sure. World Wide to me includes the US. However att has to get hold of it so that will slow things down. They say q2 so that's the end of June, but reading these forums Samsung or att have a history of not being dependable.
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From what I understand, Samsung is using the addition of the "Premium Suite" of s-pen apps as an excuse for why ICS wasn't delivered in Q1 as they had originally promised. As far as I know, their isn't going to be an additional charge for these apps; they'll be baked into the ICS OTA.
Also, as you point out they always seem to show the international version of the phone in photos, so AFAIK it's not guaranteed that the premium suite will be included in the I717 ICS OTA.
We'll just have to be patient and wait and see...
Perhaps in this case, "premium" means some of the apps will only be available to
the note. Not much of a deal if those apps are only for use with the s-pen...
It will be interesting to see the lag of ICS updates between the international & the at&t version.
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Perhaps in this case, "premium" means some of the apps will only be available to
the note. Not much of a deal if those apps are only for use with the s-pen...
It will be interesting to see the lag of ICS updates between the international & the at&t version.
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With ATT at the wheel, I'm putting the over/under at 4 months post-Intl Note ICS OTA. And I will take the over....
-Ryan
What is everybody's rush for ICS? The Note has only been out for a few weeks. Give it a little time. When it's ready, it's ready.
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What is everybody's rush for ICS? The Note has only been out for a few weeks. Give it a little time. When it's ready, it's ready.
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+1...I'm sure the device will be stronger and sicker but you all must admit it is still pretty ridiculously awesome on GB...I'm good for now...but will certainly jump on ics first chance I get...
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I want ICS for Chrome browser and new Gmail. So much better.
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I want ICS for Chrome browser and new Gmail. So much better.
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Same here bro same here
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Why all the worry about premium suite as well as time lines? Whatever version/build/whatever of ICS is officially released first Im sure it will only be a matter of days, if not hours before a better, faster, and debloated, rom is available right here on XDA. So Im giving a preemptive thanks to all the devs who spend their free time making such sweet software available to all us!
THREAD CLOSED PUT JB RELATED ISSUES IN THE JB STICKY oka1
Saw these tips on how to port JB to ICS devices, thought I would post the link for devs to review and see if we can get an early port of JB for the Note.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739561
cant wait to see the 1st JB rom
Has anyone else noticed how dead the forums have been since the Google I/O..... I would be so excited to see a JB port......Saving my funds to donate.
So far its going good on the port
I'm just wondering if JB will be ported over to the note.. or at least CM9RC1 lol
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Oh Noes! Flash will not be supported on 4.1 adobe announced. They said to uninstall it if you are upgrading because it will be unpredictable and they aren't going to support it
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Oh Noes! Flash will not be supported on 4.1 adobe announced. They said to uninstall it if you are upgrading because it will be unpredictable and they aren't going to support it
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It doesn't hurt to try they just don't want people using it since they won't support it. Basically trials and error .
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I think adobe is stupid for not supporting it anymore. Yes, html5 may be the future, but it's not the present. Chrome works for most stuff on my phone, but almost any video that I come across on any tech site or anything else I still find myself copying the link to the stock browser to watch it. It's just stupid when so much of the web still relies on flash. I have no problem with it being phased out, but they're crippling mobile browsing by not supporting mobile anymore. As soon as the next update for desktop flash comes, mobile browsing will suck until html5 is the universal standard, which it currently is nowhere near being. At least with tab syncing between mobile and desktop chrome I'll be able to find anything I need easily on my laptop, but it's still going to be a hassle. Stupid adobe, just stupid.
Back on topic, I'm excited for JB to come to the Note. I'm highly tempted to shell out 350 for a gsm gnex, but I'm sure our awesome devs will have something awesome soon enough. Until then, I'm fully satisfied with what we have already...couldn't ask for more.
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I think adobe is stupid for not supporting it anymore. Yes, html5 may be the future, but it's not the present. Chrome works for most stuff on my phone, but almost any video that I come across on any tech site or anything else I still find myself copying the link to the stock browser to watch it. It's just stupid when so much of the web still relies on flash. I have no problem with it being phased out, but they're crippling mobile browsing by not supporting mobile anymore. As soon as the next update for desktop flash comes, mobile browsing will suck until html5 is the universal standard, which it currently is nowhere near being. At least with tab syncing between mobile and desktop chrome I'll be able to find anything I need easily on my laptop, but it's still going to be a hassle. Stupid adobe, just stupid.
Back on topic, I'm excited for JB to come to the Note. I'm highly tempted to shell out 350 for a gsm gnex, but I'm sure our awesome devs will have something awesome soon enough. Until then, I'm fully satisfied with what we have already...couldn't ask for more.
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Dude!!! You are my twin lol I do the same thing with video links, and am tossing around the idea of buyin a gnex just to play with jb, but am very satisfied with the current state of the note.
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tossing around the idea of buyin a gnex just to play with jb
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You should. Been playing around with it since it became available for the Gnex. And its pretty awesome so far. But its nothing to be so excited about...other than the new Notification system...Google Now is defitinitely a must have.
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You should. Been playing around with it since it became available for the Gnex. And its pretty awesome so far. But its nothing to be so excited about...other than the new Notification system...Google Now is defitinitely a must have.
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Google now, new voice search integration, and project butter make JB.
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Dude!!! You are my twin lol I do the same thing with video links, and am tossing around the idea of buyin a gnex just to play with jb, but am very satisfied with the current state of the note.
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Yeah, about the only thing holding me back from buying the gnex is how awesome the note is, and the fact it's likely the next nexus will be out within a year, and my note is definitely more than good enough to tide me over. I just hope Samsung wins the bid for the next one. If they do, I'll be buying the next nexus for sure as well as the note 2. What we really need is the nexus note though, I would throw my wallet and my left nut along with a contact for my firstborn child at google/Samsung for that =]. I just can't quite justify spending 350 on software, with lesser hardware, that we will eventually see for free. If not sooner rather than later.
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Yeah, about the only thing holding me back from buying the gnex is how awesome the note is, and the fact it's likely the next nexus will be out within a year, and my note is definitely more than good enough to tide me over. I just hope Samsung wins the bid for the next one. If they do, I'll be buying the next nexus for sure as well as the note 2. What we really need is the nexus note though, I would throw my wallet and my left nut along with a contact for my firstborn child at google/Samsung for that =]. I just can't quite justify spending 350 on software, with lesser hardware, that we will eventually see for free. If not sooner rather than later.
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Hahahahahahahah nice post man !!!!!! Lol
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Yeah, about the only thing holding me back from buying the gnex is how awesome the note is, and the fact it's likely the next nexus will be out within a year, and my note is definitely more than good enough to tide me over. I just hope Samsung wins the bid for the next one. If they do, I'll be buying the next nexus for sure as well as the note 2. What we really need is the nexus note though, I would throw my wallet and my left nut along with a contact for my firstborn child at google/Samsung for that =]. I just can't quite justify spending 350 on software, with lesser hardware, that we will eventually see for free. If not sooner rather than later.
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Seriously just busted out laughing at work in front of our customers. Hilarious.
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I believe the JB talk is here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737889&page=4
well the time has come. ill be getting a new phone friday, can't make up my mind between s3 and the q, I like both but can't decide, so I figure open a thread get some opinions from my buddies on here.....I'm on the fence big, please drop a line or two with your opinion, links, whatever advice you might have to offer.....figure this might help others who can't decide as well....thanks
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I plan on getting a new phone in about 2 weeks also and the Q is not even a thought. I don't really like Samsung but I'll be getting the S3.
I recommend you stay with the Photon and not get a new one. My reasons are selfish though, because I don't want you to leave us as a dev!
Honestly though, my girlfriend has the S3 and it's amazing. I don't like how fragile it feels in comparison to the Photon, but I watched her drop it on concrete yesterday and it surprised me. It landed in the top left corner and the screen didn't shatter. It just has a couple dings and scrapes on the sides.
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I'm thinking about the S3 but I'm going to wait till the Photon Q's development starts going
So im waiting
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well the time has come. ill be getting a new phone friday, can't make up my mind between s3 and the q, I like both but can't decide, so I figure open a thread get some opinions from my buddies on here.....I'm on the fence big, please drop a line or two with your opinion, links, whatever advice you might have to offer.....figure this might help others who can't decide as well....thanks
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First, let me say, I loved your work on the photon 4g. Now that's out of the way. ***k the s3. I have a Q. In my opinion samsung needs some originality. Go to the store and play with them both, bigger isn't always better.
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well the time has come. ill be getting a new phone friday, can't make up my mind between s3 and the q, I like both but can't decide, so I figure open a thread get some opinions from my buddies on here.....I'm on the fence big, please drop a line or two with your opinion, links, whatever advice you might have to offer.....figure this might help others who can't decide as well....thanks
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IMO, get the S3:
1- As far as I know is the fastest phone out there
2- Samsung has added some nice software features
3- It's about to get official JB
4- The development community is growing up day by day
5- You will support Samsung in some way after the crappy outcome of the Samsung vs Apple trial D:
Thanks for all your work spleef..we've really enjoyed having you as one of our amazing devs!
Wait for the lg eclipse quad core, 2 gigs of ram, 13 megapixel camera, and a display that rivals the retina display from apple oh and 2100mah battery stock.
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S3... only because US Celullar doesn't have the Q
The Q has kernel source thanks to moto and root thanks to shabby I want you to get one of those that way I know I have at least one ROM to trust lol
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S3 all the way. My mother in-laws has one.got to play with it for awhile.It's a sick phone. Hopefully my next one. No more Motorola for me
kind of feel the same way wanting to get away from motorola, but damn they make good phones....lol that lg sounds sick but I've never been much of a lg fan....usually I've only bought htc until this photon being my first motorola, but several of my friends have motorola and they are beastly.....leaning towards the q I like the keyboard phones, and the fact it is unlockable by motorola seems promising...idk...still on the fence got a few more days still
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The Q has kernel source thanks to moto and root thanks to shabby I want you to get one of those that way I know I have at least one ROM to trust lol
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stop lying about me! people will get the idea i know what im doing
That lg is the lg eclipse 4g lteit is a god of phone spec.
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Or you can hope that the rumors about sprint getting the galaxy note 2 are true they just released the specs and omg! But anyway.. if it does come out for sprint it will be in October.. if I had an upgrade I would wait 2 months for it
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Or you can hope that the rumors about sprint getting the galaxy note 2 are true they just released the specs and omg! But anyway.. if it does come out for sprint it will be in October.. if I had an upgrade I would wait 2 months for it
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kinda like them getting the samsung galaxy journal back when that image leaked?
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kinda like them getting the samsung galaxy journal back when that image leaked?
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Lol yea. I'm ready for a quad core device! And call me crazy but I want to dual boot jellybean and wp8. I'm obviously a android fan but the new windows phone 8 looks promising
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Lol yea. I'm ready for a quad core device! And call me crazy but I want to dual boot jellybean and wp8. I'm obviously a android fan but the new windows phone 8 looks promising
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the note 2 will face the same changes the sgs3 did, there is no current quad core chipsets that support LTE, the newest and greatest one to do so is the MSM8960 aka the qualcomm snapdragon S4 tahts inside the one x lineup, sgs3 lineup, and many many other phones this year
Come to the light.
S3 so far has been a great phone.
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Samsung's radios are garbage. I had the Epic, have since given it to my ex-wife, and after a year, the single sucked, on all fronts. the cell signal sucked, the wifi signal sucked, and even the bluetooth was flakey. The Photon (and I got mine used, so it's probably a year old now) is 10 times better in those respects. The only thing the Sammy has that bests Moto is the Super AMOLED screen.
I can upgrade my note in a heartbeat ..the xperia z looks great
although should I wait for development to boom or jump ship? I'm running PA 2.7
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Really? Only you can answer that question depending on what you are looking for.
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Really? Only you can answer that question depending on what you are looking for.
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yeah..but I like this forum the people on it xda is like a big community it's hard to leave
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if anything it is going to get worse...
I doubt we are even going to see official jb tbh. I have mine up for sale atm
My upgrade isn't until March 2014. May likely get the Galaxy Note 3 or the S5. Hopefully they have the 1080p resolution and the octa8 core processor. Also key lime pie. Then again other manufacturer's are starting to build better high end devices. Kind wanna see what they have in store for us in the future. For now the Galaxy Note is still an awesome device in my eyes.
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Help requests go in Q&A and help section
Development will not boom with the Note 2 out and Note 3 coming soon.
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The only reason I have so much faith in development is because when I gave away my captivate I regretted it because it has insane roms! The developers in this forum are solid too..
if they made a 4.5 to 4.7 inch 1080p phone that's fast as hell id jump ship
5inches is good..but for a year now rt I've realized I like the size of the gs3 or smaller way better
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The only reason I have so much faith in development is because when I gave away my captivate I regretted it because it has insane roms! The developers in this forum are solid too..
if they made a 4.5 to 4.7 inch 1080p phone that's fast as hell id jump ship
5inches is good..but for a year now rt I've realized I like the size of the gs3 or smaller way better
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The gs3 is just a much better phone in general imo....
The i717 performs horribly in comparison.
I have both and the gs3 is my daily, the i717 tends to just sit in a box until someone will hopefully buy it. I put jellybean on it, played with it for a little bit but even still it was never as smooth or as battery friendly as the s3, not even on the same level.
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The gs3 is just a much better phone in general imo....
The i717 performs horribly in comparison.
I have both and the gs3 is my daily, the i717 tends to just sit in a box until someone will hopefully buy it. I put jellybean on it, played with it for a little bit but even still it was never as smooth or as battery friendly as the s3, not even on the same level.
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wow..eye opener man thanks for the insight.. I might give my phone to my sibling or something I doubt somebody would buy it
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wow..eye opener man thanks for the insight.. I might give my phone to my sibling or something I doubt somebody would buy it
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I'm having a hell of a time selling mine for $300. I got an offer for $225 and might just take it to get rid of it
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I'm having a hell of a time selling mine for $300. I got an offer for $225 and might just take it to get rid of it
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Honestly when I got mine almost a year ago for 50 bucks though AT&T I'd take that offer. The price just dropped on the note one also. But AT&T just offered to take $100 off the upgrade price of the note two so, I honestly might take it. Told them I'd get back with them about it... Can't make up my mind!!! Ugh =(
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You've got to be kidding. Development is booming. We're kicking 4.2.2 when a lot devices don't have 4.1 yet.
And the best ROM going for the GNote, we're not even allowed to talk about.
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You've got to be kidding. Development is booming. We're kicking 4.2.2 when a lot devices don't have 4.1 yet.
And the best ROM going for the GNote, we're not even allowed to talk about.
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Oooooooh snap, you talked about it! Shhhhh!!! I agree with your statement though. It just takes a small amount of time especially with this device. Well mine I know (i717) but people just want the new and to flash flash flash. I'd rather the ROMs be tested toughly than have it bricked or something.
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The roms work perfectly smooth I it wasn't for the reboots..which I don't even understand on a software level how they can even be fixed?
our developers rock though
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The roms work perfectly smooth I it wasn't for the reboots..which I don't even understand on a software level how they can even be fixed?
our developers rock though
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Well what ROM are you on Ray? I haven't had one reboot or crash since 10.1 was introduced. Just takes a lil extra work with the right apps to make everything like buttah Lol. PM me with your details and I'll suggest the best way and setup for you if you don't mind.
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The latest ROMs are very smooth and stable. Don't really need the official 4.2 anymore.
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Rest in peace little note.
Sell it ....g
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Well it has been an awesome 2 years of learning and crying with my fellow note friends but alas I got an upgrade and gonna try the HTC one tomorrow. You have been my friends and teachers to all that is android and everything I've learned in the note forums will be cherished forever. I'll stop by from time to time and check in. Again thanks everyone especially my friends in the family. And dad I reeeeaaaallllly hope cammo will work on my new device. Peace everyone.
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Good luck with your "one".
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We will see I'll have 30 days if I don't like it
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Won't take long .. Screen size may kill you lpl
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That's what I'm afraid of lol
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I can't believe you didn't go for the S4!
The s4 has too many stuff that all they do is slow down the device. Stuff that I would not use. Jmho
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I'm tired of Sammy phones wanted to try something different.
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I'd wait till they release a device with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 in it which will be soon.
A couple of phones will be announced and released next week or two that I know of. Moto X. And Lg is showing off something on Aug. 7th.
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shayneflashindaily said:
Won't take long .. Screen size may kill you lpl
2$HAYNE
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I stepped to an S4, and though it's 5" it doesn't compare to the note so I completely agree.
440bro said:
I can't believe you didn't go for the S4!
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the one is good hardware too. plus the S4's bootloader is completely locked down with the newest update...
Ltilt2 said:
The s4 has too many stuff that all they do is slow down the device. Stuff that I would not use. Jmho
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^^^ this. too much crap on the phone.
HTC makes nice phones. And now they provide a web-based bootloader unlocker (s-off). But how can you replace the pen?
Honestly I never use it. Only time I use it is when I'm sending snapchats and I draw something lol. I mainly run aosp so all the bells and whistles from it are useless.
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I hope my formal goodbye is this cool when I get a new device in ten years ha
2$HAYNE
Well guess I'll be hanging around justttt a little longer. Didn't have enough money on me to pay the dang taxes for the att next program. Oh well guess I can hold out a little longer and see what new devices are coming.
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Dagnammit ..... I thought we were rid of you. Dang whippersnappers changing phones and such. Lol
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I'm thinking the mega myself but dayum I remember when phones only cost a quarter to use ..and flip phones weren't this much when they were new technology....The price we pay for being nerds
2$HAYNE
shayneflashindaily said:
I'm thinking the mega myself but dayum I remember when phones only cost a quarter to use ..and flip phones weren't this much when they were new technology....The price we pay for being nerds
2$HAYNE
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Yep I agree, but I like nerding it up here also, except I don't have as much time as I used to. I'm definitely waiting for the note 3, my note will be 20 months around the speculated time of release so I'll be signing on another 2 year plan with AT&T . I just hope they don't go overboard with the note 3 size.
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I hope to buy a note 3 in September if they are out but still tempted by the note 2 as well.
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