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Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
No issue so far, use for about 4 hours a day for conference calls and then pandora/slacker or doubletwist for 2-3 hours more. Using Samsung sbh600 bluetooth.
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I use A2DP stereo streaming to two different devices (car and supertooth disco) and it sound excellent! Much better than my old evo and just as good as the nexus S I had for a while.
If you are using wifi for the connection to Pandora, try switching to 3G or 4G. Wifi and bluetooth can interfere with each other as they use the same frequency. I haven't had any issues, but have seen it before with other devices.
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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I noticed the same thing today streaming to my kenwood unit. My droid X had flawless sound, this was exactly as you described. Any fix yet?
One thing I noticed, my X had a check box for an enhanced bluetooth audio quality....not sure if that made a difference or not.
Been using the phone in my car with my alpine deck without issue. I have the add-on bluetooth from alpine and it works really good with the phone. Randomly the music cuts out for a second but my old blackberry did the same thing, and so did my iPod Touch (2nd gen).
Shutting off the wifi on the phone isn't a bad idea... might give that a shot to see if that helps your issue? My blackberry would randomly distort the music. I would close pandora and do a battery pull then it would usually be back to "normal".
I have the same issue with my Clarion deck. Of course...I've somewhat convinced myself the speakers are a bit blown...but it's worse on BT than wired. From what I've been able to read there is a "bitpool" setting which controls the quality, and by default it's pretty low in the 30's, while it can go up to the 50's and the sound quality is noticeably different. CM fixes this from what I've read, but that's all. Apparently Blackberry has a higher setting by default, and each manufacturer can set their's different.
I'm hoping that a combination of new speakers and CM7 will remedy my issue.
interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
DigitalSileR said:
interesting I've got a pioneer premier DEH-P710BT
and it sounds amazing
maybe look for a firmware update for your receiver?
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mine is updated to their most current firmware. I'm more inclined to think it's a bad bluetooth stack like weiln12 mentions above. gonna try it out with my friends thunderbolt tonight and see if it is the same.
I also have a clarion deck and find the bluetooth audio quality to be horrific. I find it hard to believe that it's the head unit at fault since my old Droid1 sounded perfectly fine.
Is anyone aware of any roms or kernels that have a higher bitpool setting?
I haven't found any yet. I'm hoping when we see CM7 things will be better.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
I have a Motorola S305 headset that works very well with music (slacker, amazon mp3, and pandora). However, my bluetooth Samsung WEP570 sounds so bad, crackled, and quiet (even on max volume) that I don't even use it anymore for calls.
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Sounds absolutely perfect on my Ford Sync audio.. I have a Scoche Bluetooth in my other car that I can test.. I haven't tested as it is currently off the road. I will let you know. With my Scoche and past phones I noticed the bluetooth is a little lower quality then the audio jack but not much and only with that unit.
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How is your call quality on the Ford sync? Specifically the incoming call volume.
I'm streaming Pandora to a MOTO roadster, then over fm to stereo, sounds great, no loss on the bass end either.
Have you tried another bt device?
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I personally have tried a few and have problems. However, I've tried multiple thunderbolts and they all sound the same on my kenwood. I've definitely read about HTC using less than stellar bluetooth on their units before, so I am assuming that is the case here. I guess it just works ok with some and not with others. Testing my X on the same kenwood unit I have and it's crystal clear with no distortion.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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This has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the bluetooth hardware itself. Bluetooth is a wireless digital transfer protocol, nothing more nothing less. It does nothing to the audio quality during it's transmission. Where we have a problem is in the amount of "space" (the bitpool) provided to send the information from your device to the receiver. The lower the bitpool, the less space is available for your music and the more it must be compressed. Motorola may infact provide a higher bitpool setting in their devices than HTC which would account for them sounding better and I also know that the X has a "Use High Quality Bluetooth Audio" setting, which I'm sure enables a higher bitpool.
The type of music you listen to also has a significant effect on how this sounds. If you listen to something that is sonicly simple (ie hip hop, pop, etc etc) it doesn't need as much "space" to sound good. However, when you switch over to music that has more going on like heavy metal, it needs more room.
I can give you a perfect example. I was listening to Rage Against the Machine today. In the slower parts of the songs, it sounded GREAT, but then when it picked up and the song got more involved there was a huge loss of fidelity and it didn't sound very good at all.
Now, for those of you who are happy with how yours sounds, that's awesome, but for those of us who are not, we simply just want to know of a way to adjust the bitpool setting or find a developer who is willing to code it in to their kernel/rom which I believe is what needs to happen.
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Amen. You just summed up the situation perfectly. I forgot the X has the check box for high quality BT audio, that could very well be what makes it better. I'm going to check it out tonight w/o that checked and see how it fares. Not sure why HTC wouldn't have an option like that.
Just found a post here that seems very related. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708685
Apparently CM uses an open source BT stack that has good settings to use the higher bitpool but HTC chooses the Broadcom stack that utilizes a much lower bitpool as stated above. They don't seem to have a way to raise this value though....
azwildfire said:
Question,
Using bluetooth to play audio from Pandora sounds terrible. Lots of static, studdering, skipping, cut outs.
If i use a stereo cable it sounds great, so that rules out software.
My atrix sounded gorgeous over blue tooth, so that rules out the equipment.
Anyone else have any sound quality issues with the bluetooth?
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i've had no issues. I use Pandora w/ high quality audio over BT into my Ford Sync system.
Sounds great. Somewhere between satellite radio and MP3 player SNR ratio.
Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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Ironically my streaming audio is fine from mp3's i put on the SD, but IN CALL volume is much lower then i am used too, i have a Jabra BT530, its weird because the media volume is fine, but as soon as a call comes in i have to switch to the handset to hear the other end well.
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I had that problem but it turned out to just be a volume issue, BT vol was set way higher...
Again, Streaming pandora to Motorola Roaster, which in turn broadcasts FM to my car stereo. It sounds fantastic.
Finally gave up the ol iPhone 3G and "upgraded" to an SGSII. I paid a lot of money and figured it'd work, but there are two extremely niggling problems that I cannot fix.
1. No one calling me can hear me unless I use speakerphone. I did successfully fix that once with some settings accessed by typing in a number and changing a few things, but that reset when I reset my phone...I've yet to be able to fix this.
2. When listening to music on my massive Sennheiser headphones I can't hear much at all. On the iPhone if I'd even approached full volume, I woulda blown my head off, on the SGSII, even on full, Metallica sounds like a soothing lullaby.
Are there any fixes for these issues? Or are these things that perhaps are fixed simply from having a different firmware? An almost 800 dollar phone, it'd be nice if it did two basic functions without flopping.
All help is appreciated.
EDIT: Oh and forgot to mention, I know the mic works thanks to speaker phone making me heard and I know headphones/sound output can be louder because the app Volume+ or whatever boosts it fine. I just don't want to use a seperate app each time, I want a more permanant fix.
EDIT2: Okay, Poweramp works fine, and I also see types of headphones are to blame. Like the earphones that came with the phone are fine. They have 3 notches on the plug as opposed to 2. I'd say that's a fair indication. Anyway, can consider this problem solved.
Also I've been told my warranty was indeed automatic, so if I truly cannot fix the mic problem again, apparently I can send it away to get fixed. Although I guess I'll have to reset and all, hide root and all that. Don't even know how, nor do I want to be phone-less, so help will still be very appreciated.
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1. No one calling me can hear me unless I use speakerphone.
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Sounds like a defect to me ... I would try to get an exchange. Maybe first compre with another SGS2 in a shop.
2. When listening to music on my massive Sennheiser headphones I can't hear much at all.
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That's pretty normal with mobile devices, which usually have an output impedance of 32 Ohm. Large HiFi headphones are optimized for much more powerfull amplifiers and so have an impedance of 250 Ohm or even more. This results in much lower volume, if high impedance headphones are used on mobile devices like phones, notebooks or MP3 players.
A further reason is, that the SGS2 has lower maximum volume, than several competitors ... seems to be limited by software.
Download Poweramp from the market ... it's worth every cent, but there's also a time limited demo. This app has a nice preamp, which allows you to raise the overall volume and it's equalizer is also very good.
I use Ogg Vorbis (224 bitrate) songs with this app combined with an AKG K319, the best mobile headphones I ever tried ... much better than even most big Sennheisers ... that being said from a former Sennheiser fan For home HiFi I recommend Beyerdynamic DT880 or DT990. Try these headphones and you'll sell your Sennheiser
The combination of Ogg Vorbis (MP3 sucks in comparison), AKG and Poweramp give me fantastic sound quality!
And don't use Metallica for testing ... their records are highly compressed ... complete junk from an accustically perspective, because all dynamics are compressed away. Google for "audio compressor" and you'll understand.
i use a combination of poweramp with a 'smiley face' or 'rocl' equalizer setting and volume+ with +3 and good quality equalizer settings.
makes my koss portapros truly shine in terms of volume and clarity.
First off, lemme say thanks for the replies. 'Preciate it.
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Sounds like a defect to me ... I would try to get an exchange. Maybe first compre with another SGS2 in a shop.
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Possibly, it's been awhile since I got it though and I dunno where I put my receipt so I sort of doubt the shop will care. And defect or not, I feel it's more a software/firmware issue as I truly was able to fix it at some point.
That's pretty normal with mobile devices, which usually have an output impedance of 32 Ohm. Large HiFi headphones are optimized for much more powerfull amplifiers and so have an impedance of 250 Ohm or even more. This results in much lower volume, if high impedance headphones are used on mobile devices like phones, notebooks or MP3 players.
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Hmm, didn't know that. Still doesn't explain why my headphones worked amazingly with my old iPhone but terrible with this. :c Not that I bought these headphones for taking out and about, rather bulky. Might hafta buy some others..
A further reason is, that the SGS2 has lower maximum volume, than several competitors ... seems to be limited by software.
Download Poweramp from the market ... it's worth every cent, but there's also a time limited demo. This app has a nice preamp, which allows you to raise the overall volume and it's equalizer is also very good.
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Yeah, I gathered as when I used a similar app called Volume+ I found it quite capable of better sound. That's why I'd like some help with changing the Samsung audio settings. I know my way around them, but there's so many opions and changeable things I'm not sure what to do. I'll give Poweramp a look.
I use Ogg Vorbis (224 bitrate) songs with this app combined with an AKG K319, the best mobile headphones I ever tried ... much better than even most big Sennheisers ... that being said from a former Sennheiser fan For home HiFi I recommend Beyerdynamic DT880 or DT990. Try these headphones and you'll sell your Sennheiser
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So cannot be arsed getting OGG versions ofall my music. xD And having to re-tag it all. If OGGs can even be tagged and have art. But yeah, way too much effort but I don't doubt you.
And don't use Metallica for testing ... their records are highly compressed ... complete junk from an accustically perspective, because all dynamics are compressed away. Google for "audio compressor" and you'll understand.
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Perhaps. But they're loud songs nonetheless, particularly the live ones. I can certainly hear the difference. Way too quiet on the SGS2. :c
rab1412000 said:
i use a combination of poweramp with a 'smiley face' or 'rocl' equalizer setting and volume+ with +3 and good quality equalizer settings.
makes my koss portapros truly shine in terms of volume and clarity.
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Using more than one app is even more than my not wanting to use one in the first place. Certainly wouldn't help battery life, as this all only matters when I'm travelling long distance and need music.
There are 2 microphones on the sgs2. One is on the bottom edge and one is on the top edge. The bottom one is for regular calls and is broken on your phone. The top one is for speakerphone, which is obviously working.
I suggest returning your phone under warranty as the volume issue is not normal either.
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Electroz said:
There are 2 microphones on the sgs2. One is on the bottom edge and one is on the top edge. The bottom one is for regular calls and is broken on your phone. The top one is for speakerphone, which is obviously working.
I suggest returning your phone under warranty as the volume issue is not normal either.
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They're not broken as such because as stated I was able to fiddle with some settings and get normal calls working fine, it just lost those settings after a reset. Some sort of firmware fault, I've heard of cases where people had the same issue back on the original SGS.
I could never get the warranty going. Samsung's website wouldn't recognise it at all. Never got around to trying to start the warranty manually. Probably too late now.
Also, to those who recommended Poweramp; I'm impressed. that's not a bad work around actually. Shame it doesn't have playlist support though.
EDIT: Oh, it does! perfect little app, thanks guys. Now I just need to find settings to fix my in-call volume issue then I'm all set.
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Using more than one app is even more than my not wanting to use one in the first place. Certainly wouldn't help battery life, as this all only matters when I'm travelling long distance and need music.
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volume+ has no perceptible hit on battery life fyi
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why dont you give it a try first. you could always kill it or uninstall it if it doesnt work out for you. it has a v small memory footprint btw.
rab1412000 said:
volume+ has no perceptible hit on battery life fyi
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why dont you give it a try first. you could always kill it or uninstall it if it doesnt work out for you. it has a v small memory footprint btw.
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Ah alright, I might've imagined it. I'll use it if need-be, at least Poweramp seems to do the job as-is but thanks for the recommendation.
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Hmm, didn't know that. Still doesn't explain why my headphones worked amazingly with my old iPhone but terrible with this. :c Not that I bought these headphones for taking out and about, rather bulky. Might hafta buy some others..
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thats what you call impedance mismatch.
for example, my woodees in-ear sound excellent on an iphone/ipod. in fact, it is a match to a bose QC15 any day. however it sounds muffled on my laptop and sgs2.
its the complete opposite with my koss portapros which sound amazing on my laptops and sgs2 and sound just ok on the ipod.
there is most probably nothing wrong with both your headphones and phone, but just keep this in mind. it is one reason why certain audiophiles have more than one iem.
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forgot about your in-call issues, yes that could be a hardware problem.
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thats what you call impedance mismatch.
for example, my woodees in-ear sound excellent on an iphone/ipod. in fact, it is a match to a bose QC15 any day. however it sounds muffled on my laptop and sgs2.
its the complete opposite with my koss portapros which sound amazing on my laptops and sgs2 and sound just ok on the ipod.
there is most probably nothing wrong with both your headphones and phone, but just keep this in mind. it is one reason why certain audiophiles have more than one iem.
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What a pain in the arse. :c Had no idea audio could be so damn complicated.
At least Poweramp seems to make things loud enough. Might have to invest in some more portable headphones in the future though.
personally, id try to get your in-call volume issues sorted out first.
that just isnt right and could indeed point to a h/w defect.
rab1412000 said:
personally, id try to get your in-call volume issues sorted out first.
that just isnt right and could indeed point to a h/w defect.
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That basically is all I need sorting now. The underlying problem of the music volume may not be fixed, but the apps suggested here get around it fine.
I still don't think it was a hardware defect as I really did have it fixed at one point. Stupid reset. I think it's some semi-unique firm/software issue I have.
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Had no idea audio could be so damn complicated.
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That's the downside of the MP3 age ... most people don't know nothing about audio quality and what's worse, they don't know what they missed so far.
There are several lessons to learn:
1. MP3 sucks even at highest bitrate, because frequencies above 15 KHz are cut off and basses are always distorted if the music is a bit louder. If you have good audio hardware, MP3 sounds much worse than a good Audio CD.
2. Ogg Vorbis is a good compromise for mobile use compared to Flac with it's extremly large files. If you rip a CD with quality setting Q=7 (224 kbit) you won't hear a difference to the CD except when using a DDD recording on a high end HiFi home sytem and having yourself very trained ears And what's also nice is, the file size is similar to MP3.
And yes, you can use album art with Ogg ... embed it with Media Monkey on PC or if you rip a complete album to a folder, just place a JPG in that folder which has the same file name as the album title. Both Media Monkey and the SGS2 will show it (no matter if stock player or Poweramp). No need to mention, that all MP3 tags also can be embedded in Ogg.
3. Good audio hardware is needed ... and though the stock volume is a bit low on the SGS2, it's Yamaha audio engine is quite good. But the stock audio player is crap. It's impossible to get good equalization without distortion in the bass bands. But Poweramp solves this problem, if you set it up correctly.
So all that is missing now is a good headphone. The best mobile headphone with correct impedance you can get below 100$ nowadays is the AKG K319 ... though it ships with a hardcase and has fantastic sound, it's not very popular or let's say not well known, so you can get it really cheap ... got it for only 25 Euros
But if you are a bass junkie, the Koss Porta Pro might be the better choice. It has a little bit more bass response as the AKG, but is more bulky and can't compete with the AKG's sound "crispness" in middle and high frequency bands.
Conclusion: After already switching to Poweramp, Ogg and a good mobile headphone will give give you a second WOW effect
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Conclusion: After already switching to Poweramp, Ogg and a good mobile headphone will give give you a second WOW effect
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Very interesting. I knew some of that, but not quite to that extent. Regardless though, the sheer time it'd take me to replace my songs..ugh, I shudder at the thought. Also I prefer mp3 and m4a for cross-system compatibility and iTunes use. Still my fave way of organising and listening to music I'm almost ashamed to say.
That being said, I installed Winamp just for transferring my music and playlists onto my SGS2 properly.
I'll keep the headphones in mind, but Poweramp itself solves the bulk of that problem. x3 Now if only I could fix my major problem.
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Also I prefer mp3 and m4a for cross-system compatibility and iTunes use.
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MP3 will die over time, not only because it sounds horrible. The main reason are the licence fees, devs and manufacturers have to pay ... Ogg on the other hand is free ... did you notice, that nearly all newer devices suport Ogg?
It can understand, that switching a large archive to Ogg can be a lot of work, but it's zero hassle to use Ogg for new material.
I highly recommend to compare the sound quality.
Now if only I could fix my major problem.
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You mentioned, that you found a fix, but a reboot resets it. Do you use the latest firmware or a custom ROM?
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MP3 will die over time, not only because it sounds horrible. The main reason are the licence fees, devs and manufacturers have to pay ... Ogg on the other hand is free ... did you notice, that nearly all newer devices suport Ogg?
It can understand, that switching a large archive to Ogg can be a lot of work, but it's zero hassle to use Ogg for new material.
I highly recommend to compare the sound quality.
You mentioned, that you found a fix, but a reboot resets it. Do you use the latest firmware or a custom ROM?
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Yeah, I don't doubt it. Gotta love that open source. I might investigate more into ogg files when I have more spare time.
As for the firmware, I believe I updated to a latest one. At least I don't think it was custom, looked the same as the stock, stupid TouchWiz and all. Only updated to root it basically. 'Cause I think my stock rom was an Optus mutated version basically, so couldn't root it. Something like that.
Lets check the settings..hmm...Android Version: 2.3.3, Baseband Version: I9100XXKDJ, Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100XWEK2-CL187606 [email protected] #2, Build Number: GINGERBREAD.XWKE2.
That's all I know.
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I might investigate more into ogg files when I have more spare time.
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One last word about Ogg ... it's only superior to MP3 at 224 KBit and above!
At least I don't think it was custom, ...
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You think? Where did you get it from? I only updated by OTA ... staying stock so far.
maybe 2.3.5 will fix that
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One last word about Ogg ... it's only superior to MP3 at 224 KBit and above!
You think? Where did you get it from? I only updated by OTA ... staying stock so far.
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I tend to only have MP3s above 192kbps, mostly higher, so I guess I'll know to keep the trend for oggs.
And yes, I believe so. The OTA updating thing didn't work. Again, I believe, because it was an Optus-edited firmware.
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Perhaps. If I update again does it keep my root or will I have to do that again?
EDIT: Okay, Poweramp works fine, and I also see types of headphones are to blame. Like the earphones that came with the phone are fine. They have 3 notches on the plug as opposed to 2. I'd say that's a fair indication. Anyway, can consider this problem solved.
Also I've been told my warranty was indeed automatic, so if I truly cannot fix the mic problem again, apparently I can send it away to get fixed. Although I guess I'll have to reset and all, hide root and all that. Don't even know how, nor do I want to be phone-less, so help will still be very appreciated.
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But if you are a bass junkie, the Koss Porta Pro might be the better choice. It has a little bit more bass response as the AKG, but is more bulky and can't compete with the AKG's sound "crispness" in middle and high frequency bands.
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I agree with most everything you said except your comments on the koss portapros.
Unlike most iem's, the koss us not bass heavy and in fact shines in separation, natural sound reproduction and over all warness and crispness. It is definitely not a headphone for bass heads.
I like listening to modern music with a lot of strings and I get a lot of separation in the high frequencies.
Like i said I've compared it to a Boss quiet comfort 15 and senn 555's.
Your akg is very good too, but at a third of the price less, i personally feel the koss is a better buy.
And that's why it's design has been the same for the past 25 years
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I'm using the tmobile v20 and noticed this morning that my DAC wasn't impacting the sound quality of Google Play Music at ALL. I have been using a v10 for the past year and I could tell that the DAC wasn't working, or it was broken, because my non-DAC listening on the v20 paled in comparison to the v10 with DAC on.
I went ahead and installed the DAC Fix for V10 and it seems to have fixed my issue. In case any of you aren't noticing the DAC working on streaming apps, try this. So far I've had no issues.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lgv10.dacfix&rdid=com.phascinate.lgv10.dacfix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/themes-apps/dac-fix-hi-fi-dac-everywhere-t3274457
Thanks to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4723056
Funny, listening to Google Play Music with my leftover Note 7 earbuds I hear a distinct difference when I toggle the HI-FI on and off. I tried installing the V10 fix app and can hear no difference enabling or disabling it. I did see that the settings for Hi-Fi say "The sound has been automatically adjusted to the connected audio device". Could the type of headphones/earbuds determine if it engages?
T-Mobile edition of the V20.
I also hear a big difference on my T-Mobile unit. I'm using a set of Skullcandy earphones, and toggling off/on is immediately noticeable.
I ended up testing some more...I turned off the DAC fix, yet the toggle still worked. So I uninstalled the DAC fix completely and the toggle STILL works. I guess my unit was stuck in the "off" position for some reason, but it's working fine now. Weird. Sounds so much better with the DAC on.
The DAC fix makes no difference on my V10. Once the dolby atmos is turned on and Viper, the sound quality is superior. My V20 is arriving today and I'm sure with my 1More earphones and that 32bit DAC my ears will cry for mercy.
I wasn't able to replicate your problem, but I must say... This audio quality is far superior than any other phone I've ever used, finally something deserving to be used with Denon Urban Raver's.
Soooo is the DAC fix only for streaming apps such as Google play?
This is my main source of music...
Im comparing the headphone DAC on the s7 and the v20 and they almost sound the same, Im activating and turning off the Hi FI on the v20. Im using an audio technika m50x. Should i donwload the app to fix the dac? im using a video from youtube to do the testing. going to use google music songs that i have download to see if there is a difference.
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Soooo is the DAC fix only for streaming apps such as Google play?
This is my main source of music...
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Other people's DAC worked fine for streaming apps without the fix. Mine WASN'T working, but now it is. I can't say why. But I'm like you. I use GPM for my daily music.
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Other people's DAC worked fine for streaming apps without the fix. Mine WASN'T working, but now it is. I can't say why. But I'm like you. I use GPM for my daily music.
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there is someway of knowing if is working correctly?
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there is someway of knowing if is working correctly?
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I'll tell you right now, if you can't notice it, it isn't working. You don't even have to be close to an audiophile to notice, it's just simply 3x better.
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I'll tell you right now, if you can't notice it, it isn't working. You don't even have to be close to an audiophile to notice, it's just simply 3x better.
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so mine is not working. is very close to the one on the s7 edge. Should i restore it? I also download the v10 dacfix but still the same. where is the better place to test it out. App wise?
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so mine is not working. is very close to the one on the s7 edge. Should i restore it? I also download the v10 dacfix but still the same. where is the better place to test it out. App wise?
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It is quite noticeable on every music app I've used. The best way I would say is just listen to some music you like. I wouldn't know how to fix it, mine works perfectly. Try a factory reset?
Edit: I just moved from the S7 edge, and the difference is quite clear. I even think it's much better without the hi-fi turned on, but with it on it's significantly better too.
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It is quite noticeable on every music app I've used. The best way I would say is just listen to some music you like. I wouldn't know how to fix it, mine works perfectly. Try a factory reset?
Edit: I just moved from the S7 edge, and the difference is quite clear. I even think it's much better without the hi-fi turned on, but with it on it's significantly better too.
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damn and what headphones you are using?
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damn and what headphones you are using?
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Sennheiser Momentum In-ear, SteelSeries Siberia Elite Prism headset, and both Samsung and apple ear buds that come with phones. There isn't a pair I can't tell the difference on. I even did a blind listen test with my wife, and she confirmed that it sounds better on the samsung ear buds she uses (included with S7 edge).
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I figured out a very easy way to tell. If your phone doesn't mute music for 1/2 a second when you turn it on, it isn't turning on. It should have a 1/2 second mute when enabling or disabling.
It does. So i imagine is better in the clarity or something. Because it doesnt sound louder than the s7.
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Sennheiser Momentum In-ear, SteelSeries Siberia Elite Prism headset, and both Samsung and apple ear buds that come with phones. There isn't a pair I can't tell the difference on. I even did a blind listen test with my wife, and she confirmed that it sounds better on the samsung ear buds she uses (included with S7 edge).
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how you are connecting them? first the cable to the phone and then to the headphones? or just plugging them
This dac fix did nothing for quality for me listening through my Bose QC15's couldn't tell a difference
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So mine is confirmed working with google play.
plugged my vmoda crossfade LP2 wire into th3 phone , then into to headphones.
Press the DAC button and it is a slight bump in bass and volume. too bassy imo
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Hey guys. I have a 2017 Subaru wrx. When I connect my v 30 over Bluetooth to listen to my music it sounds tinny and metallic. I'm using Google music to stream music. I never had issues with music over Bluetooth with my previous phones. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Hey guys. I have a 2017 Subaru wrx. When I connect my v 30 over Bluetooth to listen to my music it sounds tinny and metallic. I'm using Google music to stream music. I never had issues with music over Bluetooth with my previous phones. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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What head unit? I have the non navigation unit in mine. Wondering if it'll sound the same.
No issues streaming over to my car, Mazda 3 here. Not sure what to tell you as it's just a digital stream of data between your phone and car. All of the unpackaging is done on the car's side of things. The phone is using the newer BT 5 which allows it to put out a lot more data, so I don't see that being a problem. Check your streaming quality settings in Google Music and if that's set as high as it can go, check to see if maybe your car's system needs an update.
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What head unit? I have the non navigation unit in mine. Wondering if it'll sound the same.
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I have the non navigation unit too.
I have problems with podcasts, but music comes through beautifully.
Are you streaming files from the phone or streaming from your own music or listening to streaming stations? If streaming, you can try adjusting the quality settings in google play music.
No issues here with my Hyundai Sonata w/ Infinity headunit. I use standard BT (44 KHz) and Android Auto (48 KHz) and actually find the quality to be improved from my past 3 phones (V20, S8+, Note8).
I get popping and crackling streaming to isimple connect.
Music and podcasts were fine for me. Call were terrible. Lots of static on calls. I has this issue with two V30s. I had to return the phone and go with the GS8+.
coming from my moto pure, which was terrible on the bluetooth with my 2013 tacoma (HU is from a 2015 Tacoma) i had decent sound but it would drop out all the time, this phone is a dramatic improvement. there are more features in play, and the sound quality is as good as can be expected for streaming audio on a stock unit and speakers.
I was just coming in to say the same. Even from my V20, going through a cheap walmart BT - FM Transmitter, the sound is richer on the V30 than it was before, and less static between the devices.
Check your quality settings in Google
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Hey guys. I have a 2017 Subaru wrx. When I connect my v 30 over Bluetooth to listen to my music it sounds tinny and metallic. I'm using Google music to stream music. I never had issues with music over Bluetooth with my previous phones. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Have you tried changing the quality on mobile network settings in Google Play Music? Could be a case the source is low quality causing your distortion.
I've tried changing the quality and there's no difference.
I'm currently struggling with static over Bluetooth in my WRX. This morning I actually did a factory reset on the stereo. I couldn't tell as I was kinda in a hurry to test it too much. I will find out here in about 1.5hrs though.
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I'm currently struggling with static over Bluetooth in my WRX. This morning I actually did a factory reset on the stereo. I couldn't tell as I was kinda in a hurry to test it too much. I will find out here in about 1.5hrs though.
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Do you have Android Auto as an option? I've found BT streaming to be more stable when I use AA in my car. It streams at 48Hz instead of 44Hz.
That being said, I don't have quality issues either way. Just the occasional blip in streaming that lasts less than a second.
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Do you have Android Auto as an option? I've found BT streaming to be more stable when I use AA in my car. It streams at 48Hz instead of 44Hz.
That being said, I don't have quality issues either way. Just the occasional blip in streaming that lasts less than a second.
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I don't have that option unfortunately. I wish I did though. What I've tried so far, just creates the same issue. No way around it as of yet.
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I don't have that option unfortunately. I wish I did though. What I've tried so far, just creates the same issue. No way around it as of yet.
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I will test tomorrow in my car where I stream over my audio system using a Audioengine B1. So far I tested BT today using my BT headphones and they definitely sound a little different. I think they sound cleaner and very good though. This is compared to my Moto X Pure 2015, which seemed to sound very good also. The overall volume was a little lower than my previous phone but with the vol all the way up it was perfect for me to enjoy and overcome the sound of my lawnmower while cutting the lawn today
So no issues so far.
no problem at all on my jeep with Uconnect
Tested today in my car using my Audioengine B1 (stereo) and car BT (cell), sounds awesome!!
Plus found out since its a metal back plate it sticks to the dash magnet thingy I have vs using the metal plate inside of a case!!
SO far loving this phone.
Nothing useful to add at the moment beyond noting that my 2017 Subaru (BRZ) has the same issue. It appears it may be something unique to the pairing of a Subaru HU and the V30, or possibly just LG. My Sony Z5 works just fine with the stock HU, and the V30 works fine with a very cheap 1DIN HU I have around... I've reached out to Subaru but don't expect anything but finger pointing.
I'll instead likely be changing the HU to something that does Android Auto or even mirror-link... if only it were easy to make any sense of the Android HU offerings! I admit I'd sort-of like to keep the reverse camera and the steering wheel controls. I guess it wasn't worth saving the $800 on the 2017 after all (with 2018 now available for order with a price increase...) - then again, I may like whatever I install better.
I just wanted to add what I found since seems a lot of issues are from scoobies. I have an 2011 Forester XT stock non-nav HU. HU will never auto connect like it did with my HTC 10. But I found out that if I connect it through the HU works like a charm everytime. Before I was going to BT setting on the LGV30 and connecting it that way. And sometimes it would connect and if it did was really spotty, sound would stutter all the time. Drive me nuts. Now with connecting first through the HU works like a charm all the time, and just sometimes their is stutter. For my HU i've attached a pic of where the setting would be. and for me would be to click on "select audio player" and the click V30 and all is heaven.
Hope that helps some fellow scoobies.
Hi guys. I am trying to use my Realme buds wireless pro with LDAC codec on my s23 ultra but I can't change it from aac. What do you think? I tried to do this in developer options. I really appreciate your advise.
LDAC is available as an option (I use Sony WF-1000XM4), but as soon as I select it, the modal is closed and the codec switches back to AAC. I suspect it to be a firmware issue, as my S22 Ultra (Exynos) was able to use the LDAC with those headphones and my Audio-Technica ATH-M50xBT2 without issues (I haven't tried the latest on the S23 Ultra yet, though).
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LDAC is available as an option (I use Sony WF-100XM4), but as soon as I select it, the modal is closed and the codec switches back to AAC. I suspect it to be a firmware issue, as my S22 Ultra (Exynos) was able to use the LDAC with those headphones and my Audio-Technica ATH-M50xBT2 without issues (I haven't tried the latest on the S23 Ultra yet, though).
found out that we must see the buds settings in the app and choose LDAC. Then will work..
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It works for me now
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It works for me now
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Great, at least for one of us.
Normally, my WF-1000XM4 are able to switch automatically from AAC to LDAC depending on the priority you set (connection's stability for AAC and audio fidelity for LDAC), but LDAC seems to not be currently reachable. I'll quickly check around to see if I missed something.
Edit: I tried a few things but nothing seems to be able to solve this for now. I'll compensate with the Dolby Atmos until a solution appears.
Sony must have an app for your buds. Look if you find it and try in settings of this app.
Good luck!
Is LDAC activated in Settings - Connections - Bluetooth - WF-1000XM4?
I think that is what you have to do..
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Is LDAC activated in Settings - Connections - Bluetooth - WF-1000XM4?
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Exactly that! So dumb of me... Thanks for the reminder.
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Sony must have an app for your buds. Look if you find it and try in settings of this app.
Good luck!
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Yes, the Sony Headphones app was already set up for LDAC, it was just a mistake from my side to haven't checked the Bluetooth profile of the WF-1000XM4.
Thanks for your help, guys. 🫡
Comrades, if you guys got the galaxy buds 2 pro, you really must give it a try. God damn, they sound sweet and can easily give the XM4 a run for their money. You may need to change the tips to those with the XM4s..the stock buds tips are garbage.
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Comrades, if you guys got the galaxy buds 2 pro, you really must give it a try. God damn, they sound sweet and can easily give the XM4 a run for their money. You may need to change the tips to those with the XM4s..the stock buds tips are garbage.
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I kept the ones offered as "S23 Ultra early-adopter" bonus for my wife, but I assume the proprietary codec from Samsung is doing fine? I'll ask her to let me try them to have a comparison, though. 🫡
But for someone looking for a new pair of TWS (and outside of the launch offer), I would still recommend the WF-1000XM4. They are quite discounted, these days, so as the price range is pretty close I'm not sure that the Buds 2 Pro are that comparable (overall specs), especially since the multi-point has been confirmed to arrive soon (during winter, if Sony keeps its word).
But thanks for the recommendation, it tickled my interest!
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I kept the ones offered as "S23 Ultra early-adopter" bonus for my wife, but I assume the proprietary codec from Samsung is doing fine? I'll ask her to let me try them to have a comparison, though. 🫡
But for someone looking for a new pair of TWS (and outside of the launch offer), I would still recommend the WF-1000XM4. They are quite discounted, these days, so as the price range is pretty close I'm not sure that the Buds 2 Pro are that comparable (overall specs), especially since the multi-point has been confirmed to arrive soon (during winter, if Sony keeps its word).
But thanks for the recommendation, it tickled my interest!
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I have the Sony WF-1000XM4, WH-1000XM4, and now the Galaxy Buds 2 Pro and believe me the earphones sound astounding. I have the scalable codec enabled and it really gives LDAC a run for its money. The sound imaging is extremely detailed compared to the XM4s - I listen to Tidal with Master enabled (although Master is meant for wired listening, but at BT levels, it transmits at the highest bitrate). The only issue is the extreme battery drain - I have been listening for 40 mins and the battery has drained 13% already! On that note, the XM4s are champions.
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I have the Sony WF-1000XM4, WH-1000XM4, and now the Galaxy Buds 2 Pro and believe me the earphones sound astounding. I have the scalable codec enabled and it really gives LDAC a run for its money. The sound imaging is extremely detailed compared to the XM4s - I listen to Tidal with Master enabled (although Master is meant for wired listening, but at BT levels, it transmits at the highest bitrate). The only issue is the extreme battery drain - I have been listening for 40 mins and the battery has drained 13% already! On that note, the XM4s are champions.
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If my wife begins to complain that I "borrow" her Buds 2 Pro too often, consider it'll be your fault.
Jokes aside, that's pretty sad that Samsung didn't include LDAC in these, as it would be more versatile and consumer-friendly (although I perfectly understand the "golden cage" move, as Apple does the very same with its own ecosystem of products).
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I have the Sony WF-1000XM4, WH-1000XM4, and now the Galaxy Buds 2 Pro and believe me the earphones sound astounding. I have the scalable codec enabled and it really gives LDAC a run for its money. The sound imaging is extremely detailed compared to the XM4s - I listen to Tidal with Master enabled (although Master is meant for wired listening, but at BT levels, it transmits at the highest bitrate). The only issue is the extreme battery drain - I have been listening for 40 mins and the battery has drained 13% already! On that note, the XM4s are champions.
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Hold on, do you want to tell me that Buds 2 Pro are better than WF-1000XM4?
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If my wife begins to complain that I "borrow" her Buds 2 Pro too often, consider it'll be your fault.
Jokes aside, that's pretty sad that Samsung didn't include LDAC in these, as it would be more versatile and consumer-friendly (although I perfectly understand the "golden cage" move, as Apple does the very same with its own ecosystem of products).
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I really don't think the golden cage principle could apply to any Android device unless it's an iPhone!! Samsung can try as much as they want, but as long as we are in the Android world it would be impossible to put us in a cage. But yes, you may want to exchange the buds with the XM4s!
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Hold on, do you want to tell me that Buds 2 Pro are better than WF-1000XM4?
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If you have the XM4s, I'd suggest doing an A-B testing and listening to the difference yourself. I was sceptical too initially, but after listening to the buds 2 for a while now, my XM4s have become secondary. I use them only when I listen to my portable music player since the buds sound garbage on AAC
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I really don't think the golden cage principle could apply to any Android device unless it's an iPhone!! Samsung can try as much as they want, but as long as we are in the Android world it would be impossible to put us in a cage. But yes, you may want to exchange the buds with the XM4s!
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Well, as this codec is exclusive to Samsung products, if you don't have a Samsung phone recent enough to pair them with, you loose one of its main selling points (the main one?), and you can't compensate with an other Hi-Fi codec.
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If you have the XM4s, I'd suggest doing an A-B testing and listening to the difference yourself. I was sceptical too initially, but after listening to the buds 2 for a while now, my XM4s have become secondary. I use them only when I listen to my portable music player since the buds sound garbage on AAC
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I do not have either, got senheiser momentum 2 and they are slightly annoying me. I was looking to her news pair, was thinking about xm4 and maybe now Galaxy buds
Will do some research
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Well, as this codec is exclusive to Samsung products, if you don't have a Samsung phone recent enough to pair them, you loose one of its main selling point, and you can't compensate with an other Hi-Fi codec.
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Does buds use "special" codec?
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Yes, their proprietary codec is called SSC (Samsung Seamless Codec). But they can use AAC too.