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The power and volume buttons on the rezound are a hindrance at best, poorly designed and implemented.
I mean come on, flush buttons for critical functions... what was they thinking?!
Sure flush buttons can work, but they must be on the facing side of the device and be clearly visible is some way. Like the power button on many devices. (my laptop for example) They at least need to be able to be found easily tactically.
But the buttons on the rezound are thin, leaving little room for tactile differentiation and they are also placed on the side of the device where you can not see them without actively turning the phone and looking. So yeah, they are small pain and annoyance in an otherwise fine phone.
But was this always so? Was the buttons like this from the beginning and all through in house use testing and never discovered... or was it a last minute design change that wasn't thought through?
Lets look at some evidence shall we. Stock photos of the rezound in official HTC accessories.
Lets see...
Exhibit 1: HTC Silicone Skin view A
Exhibit 2: HTC Silicone Skin view B
Exhibit 3: HTC TPU Case view A
Exhibit 4: HTC TPU Case view B
Exhibit 5: HTC Extended Battery and Battery Door
This is only a few examples, there are others.
As you can see, these Rezounds all have buttons that protrude from the device slightly, just enough to allow tactile location of these critical controls.
It may just all be a trick of the angles and lighting when the pictures were taken, but they seem to protrude too far for that.
I believe these devices are early build units destined for in house testing and use of the final design. For some strange reason though, they changed the buttons to a flush mount for the actual production run.
Sad seeing as how great the phone is otherwise.
I have no issues with the power button and volume rocker. Once you get used to it they perform just fine imo.
Hmm. I plan on getting the extended battery and I am wondering how the cover will effect the flush buttons but in the meantime I'm a fan of the design. I'm already use to them and find myself trying to turn on my incredible on the right.
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I have had mine for a few days, I am getting better, but I would still appreciate a better tactile feel for the button placement.
More nitpicking.
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Marine6680 said:
I have had mine for a few days, I am getting better, but I would still appreciate a better tactile feel for the button placement.
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well i totally agree that the volume button suck LOL....i use a TPU case and it really sucks to adjust the volume witht eh case on. Now witht he Otterbox Commuter i can press the buttons even easier witht he case on compared to being off...All i can say really is, Is this your first HTC DEVICE (not being mean either)?????....in the recent years ive noticed HTC's buttons have gotten more and more flush with the Housing. Like the EVO 4G, the volume buttons were great, but the POwer button was a pain in the ass. The EVO 3D buttons were horrifying. The were slightly raised this time but hard as hell to press. But I try not to worry about the buttosn so much. Its gets people thinking a little too much and then they start to think about returning it HEHE. Id say if they start to get real frustrating for you, maybe u can get a replacement and see if another one differs from the one u have now?....thats what I did with my EVO 3D and the second one was a world of difference...
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well i totally agree that the volume button suck LOL....i use a TPU case and it really sucks to adjust the volume witht eh case on. Now witht he Otterbox Commuter i can press the buttons even easier witht he case on compared to being off...All i can say really is, Is this your first HTC DEVICE (not being mean either)?????....in the recent years ive noticed HTC's buttons have gotten more and more flush with the Housing. Like the EVO 4G, the volume buttons were great, but the POwer button was a pain in the ass. The EVO 3D buttons were horrifying. The were slightly raised this time but hard as hell to press. But I try not to worry about the buttosn so much. Its gets people thinking a little too much and then they start to think about returning it HEHE. Id say if they start to get real frustrating for you, maybe u can get a replacement and see if another one differs from the one u have now?....thats what I did with my EVO 3D and the second one was a world of difference...
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I'm like you. I have the Otterbox Commuter case and this is a non-issue for me.
There is no difference.
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The button on my first rezound protruded,and had good response with tpu case. My second rezound buttons are flushed , but really is not a problem so I enjoy the phone.
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Some rezounds have buttons that pop out a bit and some rezounds have buttons that are flush with the bezel. Not an actual difference in the devices, it is a difference in the plastic pieces(volume rocker/power button). If you open up the device you will see what I am referring to.
Being a incredible 2 user for ovet a year...I stoll can't get used to volume buttons on the opposite side
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I hate the flush buttons... Otterbox fixed that issue for me tho
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My buttons look just like the pics. I can see the protrusion and feel it if I run my finger along the edge.
The volume rocker is in the same position as my old phone so it works great for me.
I would have preferred the power button on the side of the phone as I think it would be easier to push it one handed. Like right below the volume rocker so I could press it easily with my middle finger when holding the phone in my left hand. As it is, sometimes I unintentionally adjust the volume at the same time as hitting the power button due to holding the phone with my other fingers in that area. I'm sure I will get used to it and my hand position will adjust and it will become second nature for me to avoid doing that.
At first the buttons were annoying, but I have gotten used to them!!
I take it you're in the graduate program "Human Factors& Ergonomics".
This is my first smartphone, the buttons work great.
I wish they offered phones in different varieties for different sized people. for instance, I'm tall and have big hands so these 'small' phones like the Rezound are a bit if a pain to use. i'd like a much bigger phone that fits in my hand better and is easier to use the touchscreen(I keep accidentally hitting the wrong buttons/links on the screen).
The power and volume buttons i agree are difficult.
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This is far from my first HTC device... and not my first android. I have been around since the G1 days and followed the development since early 2007. All have been HTC phones.
The buttons are just a bit of a pain and a little more thought would have been nice. I love the phone otherwise though.
I did a slight mod to my TPU case that helps a lot with using the volume buttons.
I am a fan of good well thought out design. I am not a fan of design for designs sake. The rezound borders that line in a few places but overall I like it.
This was mostly just an observation I noticed and thought I would share.
The only thing that annoys me I'd that I'd like for the headphone jack to be on the opposite side. When I put my phone in landscape I turn it to the left so the buttons are by my right hand. When I have headphones plugged in, I have to rotate it the other way so the plug doesn't get in the way. It's just a minor annoyance.
Is it just me, or is the power/lock button annoyingly hard to press sometimes. I wish it had a more noticeable "click" to it, or was raised just slightly more than it is.
I've had the phone since it was released and I love it, but I was just curious what other people think.
it is harder to press than my inc2 was, definitely. a minor thing, but yes, i've noticed it as well.
It surely is a pain. Coming from the OG Inc it was a bit difficult to get use to the power button being on the other side.
This is one of the good reasons to root so you can get wake with the volume buttons! It works so much better.
Marcismo55 said:
It surely is a pain. Coming from the OG Inc it was a bit difficult to get use to the power button being on the other side.
This is one of the good reasons to root so you can get wake with the volume buttons! It works so much better.
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what he said. and my volume buttons are just as recessed as my power button so its lose/lose with me lol
I agree, I feel that it's also a little bit too recessed that you have to press it longer or harder. It may just be that it's new unit.
I have to say, having used Razr, I am a little bit disappointed with Rezound
I really wish the buttons were like the inc 2, those ones are the best that I've used on a phone. I wanna try to raise these ones, since I've already taken it apart multiple times, but I really don't know how I'd even do it...
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I wish it was easier to press like other HTC phones.
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One of the only reason I use my otterbox case is for the buttons on the case are so much larger.
i was close to getting a commuter, but it was so bulky i didn't even bother..but damn those buttons were great
trud9340 said:
Is it just me, or is the power/lock button annoyingly hard to press sometimes. I wish it had a more noticeable "click" to it, or was raised just slightly more than it is.
I've had the phone since it was released and I love it, but I was just curious what other people think.
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I agree 100%, the power button setup has always annoyed the hell out of me.
Whoever designed that setup should lose their job.
Nothing was worse than the sunken power buttons of the thunderbolt. I am amazed that wasn't mentioned yet.
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this is why I avoid the power button.
I use volume keys to turn on, and a widget to turn the screen off.
works wonderfully.
I'm so glad I'm not the only person who thought this lol
I came over from a galaxy s3 which I actually thought was about the perfect size for a phone. I thought I would try the note 2 out just to see if you know I would be able to use some of the extra features such as the pan and maybe some other things. I'm having trouble with the size. I'm not sure I am going to be able to work with this. The Galaxy s3 I could work 1 handed but I am struggling using the note 2 1 handed.
I am just curious if it is just that I am NOT used to the phone, and I will eventually figure out how to use it 1 handed. Thanks in advance for your kind response is.
Unless your name is Shaq I doubt you will ever be able to one hand this phone.
But even without being able to do full one hand operation, I am betting you will get used to the size. All things take time. Hell there was a time when I was so used to texting on my old Samsung flip phone back in 2005, that the thought of getting a touch screen keyboard based phone was just blasphemy. And of course when I did get my device, a Droid X, I was really turned off from the keyboard. I hated texting on it and it drove me nuts.
Now today, I can't imagine having a flip phone with those ugly T9 keys, or even a slider phone that has so much wasted thickness for a redundant keyboard.
You'll get used to it, sooner or later. But it grows on you.
You have to hold it differently. If your fingers are long enough, their tips can still wrap around the phone while it mostly resting on them, not your palm. This gives your thumb much more mobility. It feels weird at first but isn't uncomfortable. I cannot reach both the status bar and buttons without shifting my grip awkwardly, but I still can do that one handed.
It's been three days and I've already gotten used to it, I can't believe how small my former Razr MAXX feels in comparison. I'm 6'2 and have pretty big hands and I am able to 1 hand it in most cases, but it's more comfortable with 2.
Unless you have really small hands. you will definitely get used to it.
Im going to give it a week....right now I'm missing my sg3
I could drive the crap out of that phone.
I one hand it without a issue I just use my pinky as a rest for the phone and my thumb does all the typing... There was review of some clip type thing that hooks to the back to slide your fingers in perhaps you could use the
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that's what she said.
No problems over here I can use it with one hand too.
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I got use to the size from day one. Only when I have to use my thumb during one hand operation do I realize that I have a big phone.
xxxxmarkxxx said:
I one hand it without a issue I just use my pinky as a rest for the phone and my thumb does all the typing... There was review of some clip type thing that hooks to the back to slide your fingers in perhaps you could use the
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That clip thing is called a fly grip I believe. Qbking77 has a YouTube video reviewing it and I think it looks pretty handy. I'm a 6 foot tall man with big hands and I'm afraid I'm going to drop the phone reaching for the notification bar while the phone is sliding in my hand. I've had a lot of different phones and this one is hands down my favorite but I do have the fear of it sliding out of my hand reaching for the notification bar to the home button (try doing that one handed... you'll see what I mean).
http://goo.gl/BUAu0 fly grip video
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The moment I pulled the note 2 out of the box and put it into my hand for the first time the GS3 was dead to me. I doubt I will ever be able to use a smaller phone without a stylus. I use the stylus nonstop for work and find that I am typically using one hand to hold the phone and the other I have the stylus.
But, I am also 6' 5" and don't really have much issue holding it in one hand and using my thumb to operate it. I usually don't even have issue moving the phone slightly to be able to reach all 4 corners.
Personally when I use my wife's S3 or my old GN after having this phone they seem tiny and I can't even stand using them. People can say what they want but for me a guy with avg size hands I think this phone is perfect. The only Issue I do have is when using my left hand it is a PITA to hit the back button. Samsung should have had the whole area to the right of the home button as a contact area, so that isn't so much a size issue for me but a design issue. Either way I could never go back to a smaller phone now.
The only thing you'll have trouble getting used to are the stares. At the mall.....restaurants especially. I haven't had a quiet meal in the last week. Waitresses and patrons just walk up and say, "That is the biggest phone I have ever seen! What is it? Do you like it.....isn't it TOO big?"
I just tell them the micro radiation is off the charts....so stand back.
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snapz54 said:
that's not what she said.
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I can one hand this phone and after a week of having mine I have gotten used to the size, it seems normal to me and other phones look extremely small.
Sent from my rooted galaxy note 2... U mad?
I LOL'ed a title
xxxxmarkxxx said:
I one hand it without a issue I just use my pinky as a rest for the phone and my thumb does all the typing...
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I do the same thing. Works like a charm. The only thing I'm still working on is trying to browse the web in bed while holding the phone above me. Feels kinda awkward.
Yeah. Meant for big people I believe. 6 foot 5 1/2 here. Hands huge as people tell me. Just have fun. U will find your own trick in using it.
I Murder Murderers
Matt ... pm me if you decide to go back to the S3.
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I'm in the process of switching carriers from Sprint to Verizon, and was worried about the size of the Note 2. I was glad to read all of your comments about getting used to it. Thanks! It has helped solidify my decision.
Is it me or is the motor not very strong. I have the vibrate key press on and I can barely feel anything. Also today I had it on vibrate and I could not feel my phone ring. Am I the only one that thinks this?
txmade said:
Is it me or is the motor not very strong. I have the vibrate key press on and I can barely feel anything. Also today I had it on vibrate and I could not feel my phone ring. Am I the only one that thinks this?
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Do You have the power save mode on?
all device like this if you were in a very loudly and noise environment, you can not feel that .
Mines strong. Stronger than all my previous phones.
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flash a stock 4.2.2 keyboard and the haptic will rattle your phone, I scare people when I type on mine lol
Mines is so strong some times it scares me when it's in my pocket
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joshyy_rey said:
flash a stock 4.2.2 keyboard and the haptic will rattle your phone, I scare people when I type on mine lol
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Swiftkey lets you set the heptic levels and it does get pretty strong ..the ringtone vibrate is set pretty low in comparison
I have this same issue. It's because HTC in it's infinite wisdom decided to put the vibrate motor at the top of the phone near the camera. The S3 I came from however has the motor directly behind the soft keyboard so it feels a lot stronger and natural. They also use different types of motors oscillating v. rotational in the S3 and One respectively. The oscillating motor feels a lot more sharp and crisp IMHO. Unfortunately HTC most likely used the rotational motor because it's a lot smaller in comparison.
So I often found myself hitting the volume buttons instead of power (when not using tap on), so I got a TPU case and tapped a rubber band to the inside of the case (across the opening) so the rubber band covers the power button when the case is on. The rubber band forms a sort of grippy button such that my finger naturally goes right to the power button. It does lift the case up a little bit in the back, but the case stays on fine. I'm sure instead of the rubber band, you could use a piece of silicon or rubber, and glue instead of tape if you wish too.
Just figured I might share this with people who may be having similar power-button-seaking frustrations
Sounds like a great idea for those with difficulty - for myself - I love the buttons on the back! It was the main reason I got the phone because I was tired of grabbing my phone on the sides & always either changing the volume up or down or turning the phone off, etc. etc. Therefore, for me, the buttons on the back are just great & it almost gives me a sense of freedom to handle the phone without hitting the buttons on the sides.
However, I can see some people having a problem. Also, they could just feel with their finger, the bottom of the tpu case cutout & know that the bottom is volume down & then over the hump, is the volume up.
I stippled the power button on mine.
Example of stippling on a shotgun grip. The surface around it is how it normally is.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7262/6887983878_1d68bdd506_z.jpg
I do this for a lot of my other stuff, so I though I'd give it a try with some really fine stippling. It's great, gives me immediate clarity to which key is the right one, plus I can just slide my finger down and when it stops on the rugged surface I'm in the right spot. Also works with gloves, of course, as they also grip it.
First of all the title of this thread is pretty stupid. Who actually has trouble finding the power button on this phone?
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By finding he obviously refers to when you're holding the phone its not as obvious as it can be with the button on the side. You sometimes find yourself hitting what you think is the power button, but might be an edge next to it or such.
If you don't have the issue that's great, but a lot of others do, especially since most of us are used to using our thumb for it, on sidebutton.
PS. If you're going to do the "First of all"-approach, you should probably have more than one point to present.
shook187 said:
First of all the title of this thread is pretty stupid. Who actually has trouble finding the power button on this phone?
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Your comment was a game changer. Thanks for playing.
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shook187 said:
First of all the title of this thread is pretty stupid. Who actually has trouble finding the power button on this phone?
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You sir, win the XDA stupidity award! (That is very hard to do on this site! So many stupid people!) Congrats! What do you win??? A swift kick in the a$$
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