Is tethering carrier dependent? And if so, how so?
I'm on Rogers and am on a grandfathered plan that includes unlimited data. That's right, UNLIMITED! (They didn't think it'd be an issue 6 years ago when they gave it to me - lol).
Anyways, when I first got my S2 back in July, tethering was working great (only used for one day). My wife also has an S2 and she's on their $25 month 500mb plan and her tether works fine too.
But now when I got to tether, it'll seem to start up momentarily and then displays "error" instead of "...tethering is active". If I start and stop it a few times, sometimes it'll stick and stay active but then sometimes the device that is connected will get a "limited access" status and can't browse the internet. Pretty strange.
My Googling shows people inquiring about Rogers having the power to disable tethering. But I can't see how they would be able to. How can they even tell if I'm tethering my device?
I've posted questions in the past about how maybe running SD Maid had somehow messed up my tethering but people are pretty adamant it's not. Also wondering if maybe permissions got changed when I ran ROM Manager's "Fix Permissions".
So what do you guys think? Is it Rogers blocking me from tethering, and if so, any way around it?
Thanks.
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It's been a while since I was on Rogers, but back then the unlimited plans did not include tethering and used a separate APN compared to those that allowed it, since you and your wife are both using Rogers on SII, I'm assuming you checked this and that the APNs are the same, if that's the case there are other ways they could be blocking your tethering. The only way to know for sure would be to call them and ask if your plan includes tethering, if they say no, they're blocking it you can be sure of that.
Yes both of our APNs are the same. I don't want to inquire with Rogers if they are blocking my tethering because I'm afraid they'll come up with an excuse how I shouldn't have unlimited data anymore.
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Hi. I just got my vibrant yesterday and I got a couple question for it before I will root and unlock it. After I unlock it and put in my att sim card will I get charge or be force onto a data plan or can I used it normally without a data plan? B. Should I block incoming data and then use it. Finally C. What is this $10 dollar data plan that I read about on other thread. thank you for your answer.
I'd really like to know the answer to this as well. I've been alternating between an N1 and Vibrant on AT&T using my grandfathered 5GB dataplan. Can they recognize the IMEI?
I use the Samsung Vibrant on AT&T with a grandfathered iPhone unlimited data plan. AT&T hasn't noticed.
However, AT&T will automatically add a data plan to an iPhone if you try to use it on their network without a data plan.
so i guess ill update and try to answer your question incon. I just jump and root,unlock,and put axura 2.2.6 (very nice btw) and im using the phone well so far w/o any sms about data plan. I turn off data roaming and just used wifi since im on school t1 internet anyway. As far as them recognizing the IMEI, I'm still unclear but i've been checking my att account often and it still said that im running on w580i SE. Hope it helps any1 that looking to used this great phone on att unlocked. BTW I freaking love my vibrant. It ridiculously awesome!!!!.
I posted this in another area of this forum , but I think this is the proper place...Just rooted my Samsung Galaxy SII AT&T and am looking for a tethering app and/or process to get tethering on my rooted phone. I use DooMLoRD's Easy Rooting Toolkit and it worked flawlessly. I have done some searching and cant seem to find an answer.
What I am looking for is a tethering app (preferably free) to put on this phone so I can share my data connection. If someone could point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it.
Not to be a ass or anything but....
Did you even use search?
Point in the right direction below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=101111416
you know there is tethering option actually in the phone, dont need a separate app. Settings->Wireless and Network->Tethering and portable hotspot
@ Pmac 25...I searched...here and the net. I was drawing blanks. Not sure why I could not find anything. Sorry, but thank you for the help.
@highaltitude...I am cool with using the tethering app in the phone, can I use it without issues from AT&T? I mean I know they possibly could track me, but does the root allow use of the stock tethering app?
Not really sure if you need to be rooted or not to use the stock one. I have a grandfathered Unlimited plan, and have so far been too afraid to try tethering in fear of losing my current data plan. Besides, for me, I have wifi at home, a netbook if I need it and can pretty much get 3G plus anywhere in town so I have not actually needed to use tethering. Good luck, there is some good reading in the link posted above by Pmac25
I read in on of the threads you can just delete the tethermanager.apk. I think I can delete this from Titanium Backup. It is listed as TetheringManager 2.07.06(1). If/once I do this, I can just use the stock tethering app on the phone?
highaltitude said:
Not really sure if you need to be rooted or not to use the stock one. I have a grandfathered Unlimited plan, and have so far been too afraid to try tethering in fear of losing my current data plan. Besides, for me, I have wifi at home, a netbook if I need it and can pretty much get 3G plus anywhere in town so I have not actually needed to use tethering. Good luck, there is some good reading in the link posted above by Pmac25
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High - You won't lose your unlimited data plan! however, if you try to use the tethering option AT&T will eventually find out and give you a letter like this:
Dear sir/madam,
AT&T is happy to provide excellent wireless data service for yoru mobile devices, and we're happy that you're enjoying our service. However, it has come to our attention that you are sharing our service to additional device, commonly known as *tethering*. As you may already be aware, we do offer this additional feature as a paid for service, and will be happy to apply this $20.00 charge on your next bill if you continue to utilize the tethering option...
BOTTOM line, rooting the phone is only PART I, you still have to find and REMOVE the AT&T tethering monitoring APK that is running in the background, (hence the rooting) I *BELIEVE* it's called *tethering2.apk* and IT can only be removed/deleted after phone has been rooted...
Now for the kicker, even with tattertale app removed. AT&T still have at it's disposal human or bot based tracking solutions on their HPSA/3G network to detect when a device is tethering (exact methodology is a closely guarded secret) and so despite your best efforts with rooting and removing the APK, you *MAY* still get the warning letter about the $20 / month additional service charge...
Thanks....
lonewolf69 said:
High - You won't lose your unlimited data plan! however, if you try to use the tethering option AT&T will eventually find out and give you a letter like this:
Dear sir/madam,
AT&T is happy to provide excellent wireless data service for yoru mobile devices, and we're happy that you're enjoying our service. However, it has come to our attention that you are sharing our service to additional device, commonly known as *tethering*. As you may already be aware, we do offer this additional feature as a paid for service, and will be happy to apply this $20.00 charge on your next bill if you continue to utilize the tethering option...
BOTTOM line, rooting the phone is only PART I, you still have to find and REMOVE the AT&T tethering monitoring APK that is running in the background, (hence the rooting) I *BELIEVE* it's called *tethering2.apk* and IT can only be removed/deleted after phone has been rooted...
Now for the kicker, even with tattertale app removed. AT&T still have at it's disposal human or bot based tracking solutions on their HPSA/3G network to detect when a device is tethering (exact methodology is a closely guarded secret) and so despite your best efforts with rooting and removing the APK, you *MAY* still get the warning letter about the $20 / month additional service charge...
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@lonewolf....I think I can freeze or remove the TetheringManager 2.07.06(1) with Titanium Backup. is this the file you refer to in your post?
I recently changed over from Verizon to Net10 and have been pretty happy with the results. I went out and picked up two i777's and a SIM card for each. I'm running on AT&T and the service is way faster than my old phone (DINC). I have one slight problem and I've been searching for days on here and loogle... everything on the phone works except for the wifi tethering. It's a really weird issue... sometimes I can get it to work after I reboot the phone, other times I'm not so lucky. My i777 is running JellyBam v4.1 (JB 4.1.2) with Siyah v7.6.9. I know that the newer ROM versions (JB 4.2.1) have wifi tethering issues.(or at least JellyBam v5.1 did - it's documented on their forum) So I flashed back to JB 4.1.2 and I've had the wifi tethering work for me a few times, but more often than not, my laptop/tablet/etc will connect to my phone but with a limited connection - no internet. Everything on the phone looks normal, for example, it pops up with the notification for wifi tethering is now on. And I really don't think its a ROM issue. I was wondering if its an issue with the APN I'm using. Is anyone else on Net10 having issues with wifi tether??? Also I haven't tried using a different tethering app... I would prefer to use the stock tethering app. Sorry if this has been addressed already, I tried searching before I posted. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Not sure I can help too much since I'm not on Net10, but perhaps try switching kernels first. Siyah 5 should work for 4.1.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
Also, post your APNs?
stone_ship said:
Not sure I can help too much since I'm not on Net10, but perhaps try switching kernels first. Siyah 5 should work for 4.1.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
Also, post your APNs?
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Thanks, I'll try siyah 5.
APN
name - net10
APN - wap.tracfone
port - 80
mmsc - http://mmsc.cingular.com
mms proxy - 66.209.11.32
mms port - 80
Good call, I should have posted that before.
Flashed siyah 5 and so far so good. I'll keep testing throughout the day. Thanks for the reply. I feel stupid though, I should have tried that before. Appreciate the help. I'll post up later if anything changes
ryanhe30 said:
I recently changed over from Verizon to Net10 and have been pretty happy with the results. I went out and picked up two i777's and a SIM card for each. I'm running on AT&T and the service is way faster than my old phone (DINC). I have one slight problem and I've been searching for days on here and loogle... everything on the phone works except for the wifi tethering. It's a really weird issue... sometimes I can get it to work after I reboot the phone, other times I'm not so lucky. My i777 is running JellyBam v4.1 (JB 4.1.2) with Siyah v7.6.9. I know that the newer ROM versions (JB 4.2.1) have wifi tethering issues.(or at least JellyBam v5.1 did - it's documented on their forum) So I flashed back to JB 4.1.2 and I've had the wifi tethering work for me a few times, but more often than not, my laptop/tablet/etc will connect to my phone but with a limited connection - no internet. Everything on the phone looks normal, for example, it pops up with the notification for wifi tethering is now on. And I really don't think its a ROM issue. I was wondering if its an issue with the APN I'm using. Is anyone else on Net10 having issues with wifi tether??? Also I haven't tried using a different tethering app... I would prefer to use the stock tethering app. Sorry if this has been addressed already, I tried searching before I posted. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I have had the same problem with my TMOB galaxy note 2 using a net 10 sim card. I connected to google a couple times on my laptop, but won't go to any other webpages unassociated with google search. What do you suggest?
Warning do not run wifi thether on Net10 AT&T sims
nthneby said:
I have had the same problem with my TMOB galaxy note 2 using a net 10 sim card. I connected to google a couple times on my laptop, but won't go to any other webpages unassociated with google search. What do you suggest?
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My data was disconnected after I tried running my wifi tether on Net10 bring your own phone. I have a rooted Motorola Atrix 4G using a AT&T sim. I was told it was because I used all my data but here is what I wrote them and how responded.
Me,
I had my Net10 phone just over a week and my data was turned off. I know for a fact that I did not use 1.5 gb of data because I have a data usage app on my phone. I think I was disconnected because I tried using a wifi tether app. If that is why I was disconnected then I should be told that and not that I used all my data package. If this is not resolved I will be discontinuing service
Net10,
I checked your account and your data service has been suspended due to violation of sections 6 and 7 of our Terms of Service. Tethering is prohibited and that's the reason why your data has been suspended. Your data will be restored at a reduced speed 24 hours after an Airtime card is added on your Service End Date. To better understand why your data speed has been suspended, please call this hotline number 1-866-793-0474. This is available 24 hours a day/7 days a week. Thanks.
Thank you for your patience, while we respond to your inquiry.
[email protected]
I have a rooted sgh-m919 tmobile variant galaxy s4.
I flashed infamous s4 kernel 3 and rom 2.6.1
I recently switched from tmobile prepaid to net10 at&t sim byop.
I have used the standard wifi tether app and I have the full version of pdanet+
tethering connects to phone with limited connection, no internet.
Would really like a solution to this problem.
inspectergadget said:
I have a rooted sgh-m919 tmobile variant galaxy s4.
I flashed infamous s4 kernel 3 and rom 2.6.1
I recently switched from tmobile prepaid to net10 at&t sim byop.
I have used the standard wifi tether app and I have the full version of pdanet+
tethering connects to phone with limited connection, no internet.
Would really like a solution to this problem.
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You have T-Mobile Galaxy S4 and you're asking for a solution to your problem in the AT&T Galaxy S2 forum?
Re read my post.
My phone is unlocked.
I am using at&t sim.
As a matter of fact I switched to at&t gophone today.
Net10 at&t is strictly limited to 1.5gb data, so I'm using gophone smartphone $60 plan, which gives you 2gb, plus you can buy more data at $10 per 1GB
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mjki27ey said:
My data was disconnected after I tried running my wifi tether on Net10 bring your own phone. I have a rooted Motorola Atrix 4G using a AT&T sim. I was told it was because I used all my data but here is what I wrote them and how responded.
Me,
I had my Net10 phone just over a week and my data was turned off. I know for a fact that I did not use 1.5 gb of data because I have a data usage app on my phone. I think I was disconnected because I tried using a wifi tether app. If that is why I was disconnected then I should be told that and not that I used all my data package. If this is not resolved I will be discontinuing service
Net10,
I checked your account and your data service has been suspended due to violation of sections 6 and 7 of our Terms of Service. Tethering is prohibited and that's the reason why your data has been suspended. Your data will be restored at a reduced speed 24 hours after an Airtime card is added on your Service End Date. To better understand why your data speed has been suspended, please call this hotline number 1-866-793-0474. This is available 24 hours a day/7 days a week. Thanks.
Thank you for your patience, while we respond to your inquiry.
[email protected]
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Hello! Let me begin by saying that if just up and buy an Android NET10 phone from a retail outlet, hotspot and tethering are disabled by the carrier and are 'carrier-locked', so this solution may not work for you. This reply is for BYOP users and others with an 'unlocked' phone. (There ARE Net10 ONLINE retailers who sell unlocked phones under the BYOP program.)
The fact that AT&T/NET10 found out you were tethering (and why the OP can't connect) may be because you're trying to tether a Windows PC by means of an Android phone. Windows IP packets have a time-to-live (TTL) of 128ms by default, while Linux and Android packets have a TTL of 64ms. That TTL difference, to them, constitutes a dead giveaway that you're tethering. I guess their network detects this condition, and either alerts them to you, denies you the tethered connection, or both. As for PDANet, CWM Tether (that reminds me - I need my $5 back), and other such utilities, I guess the latest Android versions broke them all.
Try tethering on a Linux Live CD. Dollars to pig pills (doughnuts) says that both of you can now tether without detection or problems. Why? Because for all they know, they'll think you're just using data on the phone....
By stumbling onto this nugget on my own, I now realize how I tethered without any grief for YEARS on Verizon by using a Windows Mobile 3G phone and Windows boxes. I never heard a single word from them about it.
Why did they never catch on? I discovered that it was because of the fact that WM and Windows IP packets have the same TTL. Again, they had no idea that I was tethering instead of surfing the Web on the phone. Same thing with AT&T and the others, I suppose...
Fortunately, a registry hack will change the default TTL on a Windoze box to 64ms - the same as Linux or an Android phone. Here's the URL describing the hack: http://www.pctools.com/guides/registry/detail/885/
My phone ain't a Samsung, so I guess this'll work for any Android phone. This worked like a champ to solve my own dilemma, but, as a disclaimer, YMMV.
You're welcome...
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I'm sorry if this wasn't in the right area, I googled up this same question and this board has it the most it seems. If its in the wrong area, please move the topic to the right area so I know where to ask next tome (or link and I'll delete this ((if possible)) and recreate).
I've been using PDANet USB Tethering for the last 3 years or so with Boost Mobile, Samsung Galaxy S3. My phone is showing severe signs of age and issues, and I'm having tons of PDANet related issues. I have unlimited 4G LTE data, but I can't use my wireless tether because the phone company detects it and stops it at 8GB where as USB tethering I've gotten 100+ GB in a single month no issues.
I'm looking for a new phone I can get, that I can somehow mask everything I do on it so that the phone company is unable to see what I'm doing on it, and won't be able to determine if I'm using my phone's wireless tethering features. I prefer a smartphone, obviously, cause I do take it with me where I go and like to have access to my apps. I'm inexperienced with installing ROMs or rooting, never figured out how with my S3 because all the topics are outdated and inaccurate and I only ended up damaging the phone trying. I've got about a week or two to find a new phone that will work with Boost Mobile. My current phone's network mode is CDMA/LTE/EVDO, just to give you an idea of what network I'd need to use for Boost (CDMA I guess?). I need 4G as well, it seems that 3G doesn't work at all at my location and I only get 1 bar of 4G LTE when I'm at home in a specific 3 inch by 3 inch space in my room that I have to tape my phone down to, but at least it works.
There's no other internet options available to me where I live, so my phone is my internet. Just to clarify before people suggest getting an internet service.
Just to be sure, I don't want anything made by Apple, but that should be obvious, posting in the Android forum.
I have found that Boost Mobile won't let me use anything but like 6 specific phones only. Two of the choices being the S7 and the S8.
I've done a search on Amazon looking for unlocked S8 phones, however the comments and reports all claim these unlocked devices are a lie and don't actually work with services they claim to, or have conflicting reports and such. I'm unable to find an Unlocked S8 for use with Boost Mobile.
I've found that I can edit the APN to add 'dun' to my type list, to bypass the data limit of Mobile Hotspot, however I am hoping that it doesn't also cause the company to start charging me hundreds of dollars a month. I want to make sure they can't actually see the traffic either, I don't want my ISP knowing what I'm doing online, because they will just turn around and sell every website I visit to third parties which is now a thing in the USA.
I'd rather Boost not know whats installed on my phone or what websites I visit.
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Hello everyone!
I've been searching this forum with no luck on my question so I'm posting it here. Please, if I'm in the wrong place feel free to move this or delete if not allowed.
I've found some amazing information on this site in the past (thanks to so many smart, phone savvy, outstanding members!) and am really hoping someone can lead me in the right direction. I'm very luck that I'm still grandfathered on Verizons original unlimited data program (no throttling) and my old Samsung S4 finally gave up the ghost. I used Foxfi on the S4 for hotspot with no issues and loved Foxfi! I purchased a new unlocked Moto g Power (model XT2041-4) and had Verizon install the sim card and activate. The lady at Verizon said, since I bought the phone outright, it would NOT change my plan in any way. After getting home I installed Foxfi on the new phone but come to find out Foxfi does not support Android 10, which is what the new phone runs on. I am able to turn on the phones built in hotspot, and can connect devices to it, but now I'm getting really worried that Verizon will be able to tell that I'm hotspotting, which could void my plan.
As the phone is "unlocked", and I'm not getting any warnings or messages from Verizon stating that I must pay for hotspot when I turn on the phones built in hotspot, am I worried over nothing? If I do need to worry, can someone suggest a trustworthy app (I have no problem paying for a functional app, as I paid for Foxfi and it worked excellent) that would give me hotspot access without Verizon knowing?
Thank you all in advance for any advice/suggestions! I'm not as tech savvy as I once was so hopefully I didn't just get into a big problem with this phone.
-Dan
I have the same phone, but with T-Mobile. Since you already have FoxFi (and the key I assume) you should download PDaNet from the playstore or Google June Fabrics & get from there. When you open the app, at the bottom be sure to check the hide usage box & you should be good to go. Use mine sometimes for my laptop thru USB cable for gaming...( Have to because while T-Mobile gives you hotspot in their data plans, they greatly reduced the speed :/ ) Hope that helps!
T-Mobile gives you 3GB to share on standard data (Plus Up gives you 20GB)
(Sprint is my Carrier) Interestingly, I too was able to turn on the hotspot function of my device, however when I connected a device to the network, absolutely nothing would load. The system was being provided with an IP address, just no internet access. I ended up having to root the device to get it working properly. I found that even when attempting to use FoxFi/PDaNet and selecting the "Hide Usage" option, it would continue to block all traffic to the connected device. Not sure if you tested the actual Hotspot function, or just turned it on, but you will definitely want to make sure you test with a connected device.
just for my perspective, ( from a dutch guy) , you guys in the states are not allowed to use the tethering function?
here in the Netherlands it's no problem, never thought of using another hotspot app, on some days i tether about 3 to 5 gb , no problem in my unlimited dataplan, only when i go above 5gb per day then i have to "activate" every next gb per sms ( free of charge) and all that for € 26 /month.
Mmy average data usage would be somewhere around 20 gb per month