Smart Tag and Oyster card - Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go

I had the P4U orange package which didn't come with any smart tags to play with.
However i noticed that my Oyster card ( london underground) is picked up as a new TAG collected but as an unknown Tag Type. I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge in this area to use this TAG to log into TFL's website into my oyster account and tell me how much fund i have left?
Now that will be real cool if possible.

doddsy11 said:
I had the P4U orange package which didn't come with any smart tags to play with.
However i noticed that my Oyster card ( london underground) is picked up as a new TAG collected but as an unknown Tag Type. I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge in this area to use this TAG to log into TFL's website into my oyster account and tell me how much fund i have left?
Now that will be real cool if possible.
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Well that can be done with the included smart tags
(you can open a url via the tag)

Oyster cards things use a proprietary protocol and are usually encrypted. You won't be able to read it with the Xperia S. Ever.

Ambroos said:
Oyster cards things use a proprietary protocol and are usually encrypted. You won't be able to read it with the Xperia S. Ever.
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If you want to login on whatever website to see account details it will work

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how to edit NFC tags

how to change settings for tags?
when I choose tags in application it shows "no scaned tags"... but they work...
If you go to your apps, there is an icon that says 'liveware'. In the app you can choose smarttags and edit them.
If you use the smart tags, DL from market the xperia smart tags App. When it's Ok creat a widget for smarts tags xperia and tap on it. Now you set option for each tags.
Tell if it's that you wan't because i just have App, no smart tags in my package
Alternatively, look into NFC Task Launcher or NFC Tag Writer which work with NFC tags not through the smarttags method.
I find SmartTags pretty restrictive but coming from a Nexus S I am really used to using tags for much more automation (check-ins with Foursquare, tasker tasks, sending messages, running remote server commands etc)
plain or restricted NFC API ?
hi 3shirts,
I think you answer indirectly to the question I have yet I need some confirmation.
actually, I'm wondering if this phone has "full" NFC support or if Sony will only allow "NFC restrited" apps like max 4 smartags /per Xperia as up to now?
I need to replace my GalaxyS and I'm hesitating between Galaxy Nexus and Xperia S mainly for this NFC feature.
I plan to develop NFC apps and don't want to be restricted by such "marketing" feature.
can you confirm we can use the plain android NFC API on Xperia S and "talk' to more than 4 SmartTags, and on differents NDEF and not NDEF ones?
all the best
Rico
ze_rico said:
hi 3shirts,
I think you answer indirectly to the question I have yet I need some confirmation.
actually, I'm wondering if this phone has "full" NFC support or if Sony will only allow "NFC restrited" apps like max 4 smartags /per Xperia as up to now?
I need to replace my GalaxyS and I'm hesitating between Galaxy Nexus and Xperia S mainly for this NFC feature.
I plan to develop NFC apps and don't want to be restricted by such "marketing" feature.
can you confirm we can use the plain android NFC API on Xperia S and "talk' to more than 4 SmartTags, and on differents NDEF and not NDEF ones?
all the best
Rico
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I use the Tag Writer app instead of the smarttag app.
As long as you disable or remove the smart tag app, you have full functionality of your smart tags. I even tested it by trying to write the sony tags, which worked (apparently they arent write protected but they aren't very large, so you can't write much ), but of course you lose the "functionality"(I use that lightly, since the smart tag app is...limited).
So you shouldn't have any problems at all, if you just avoid using the smart-tag app
Edit:
Actually, the creator of the NFC app owns both phones, and can compare the difference in functionality (which I don't think there is) you might want to send him a PM, krohnjw is his name on the forums
thanks a lot shmoejoe !
meanwhile I've found part answers by googleling on NFC ans Xperia keywords;
interesting thinhs on sonymobile dev world NFC page : developer(dot)sonymobile(dot)com/wp/2012/01/10/nfc-support-in-new-xperia-devices
I'll contact krohnjw check it whit him/her
besides, I'm not surprised to see that samrttags ae writable, because (if my understanding is correct) htis is the purpose for the smarttags to write down simplified URIs into them to launch actions (right? )
or is it only the aim of the smart tag app to match the tag Id and associate& store actions ?
cheers
Rico
Hmm, I will check out that link I think
I am rather new to this NFC world so I'm still trying to figure it all out as well (you lost me at the NDEF question). Once I figure it all out though, I believe I will start living off of it .
I currently only use it to mainly change my settings around and to launch a few apps, but I read that in some pleaces NFC is being used to pay for things and such (with Google Wallet?)? Now something like that really interests me .
I tried the Smart tag App, but it's really restricted (no air plane mode action for exemple).
So i bought NFC Task mananger, awsome app, lots of choices and actions.
1.4 euros for the app and 13 euros for 10 tags. Less than the 4 officials smart tags =)
thanks both for your inputs,
Shmojeo, you read right about other NFC features,
currently there're 3 ways to use NFC : reader mode(the one we're discussing about here), P2P (beaming between 2 NFCphones) and card emulation.
the later is for payement, loyalty/coupons etc, and maybe everything we can imagine to get access to the tags stored data.
yet Google doesn't give access to what they call the "secure elements" which is somewhat equivalent to accessing sim card or banking card data.
it's probably because they want to promote the google wallet ;-)
I've read somewhere (may be here on xda) that patches are coming to get around this.
cheers
rico
Incidentally. You don't even lose the functionality of SmartTags because you can write the URI that they use back to them (or any tag for that matter) and get the functionality back.
See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544570
I know that
I meant more that you can't use the smart-tag app functions when you rewrite it, which isn't a loss because the NFC writing app does more and works better, you just can't use the sony app for it .
More smat tags in Xperia S
ze_rico said:
hi 3shirts,
I think you answer indirectly to the question I have yet I need some confirmation.
actually, I'm wondering if this phone has "full" NFC support or if Sony will only allow "NFC restrited" apps like max 4 smartags /per Xperia as up to now?
I need to replace my GalaxyS and I'm hesitating between Galaxy Nexus and Xperia S mainly for this NFC feature.
I plan to develop NFC apps and don't want to be restricted by such "marketing" feature.
can you confirm we can use the plain android NFC API on Xperia S and "talk' to more than 4 SmartTags, and on differents NDEF and not NDEF ones?
all the best
Rico
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I have write 5 SmartTag in my Xperia S (two time favorite) i have try to get more but seems no way, i believe is the Sony application limitation
ze_rico said:
htis is the purpose for the smarttags to write down simplified URIs into them to launch actions (right? )
or is it only the aim of the smart tag app to match the tag Id and associate& store actions ?
cheers
Rico
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it's only launch liveware, we have instal it in a Nexus S and work exactly like in my Xperia S
PS you need the both app: Liveware & Smarttag and of course NFC enabled mobile

[Q] Suggest me which NFC tags to buy ?

I want it for development purpose.
Should be Re writable.
Can we do NDEF formatting by ourselves ? or Does it need any particular tag writer to do NDEF Formatting ?
Can read-only tags programmed over and over again ?
I need to ship to India from US. So can't take the risk of getting wrong tags.
Thank You
alicechong89 said:
Hello,
Buynfctags.com sells NFC tags and readers and they will ship to India. I would recommend choosing either the Priority or Express options because they come with a tracking number for the shipment.
You should take a look at the Windows NFC Starter Kit, it comes with an NFC Reader and a license to use the GoToTags Windows NFC App. You will be able to NDEF encode NFC tags with this App. The tags will be re-writable as long as you do not lock them while you encode.
The NTAG NFC Tags come pre-formmated as NDEF. They are popular because they can store a decent amount of data and are pretty fast.
Another option if you have an Android phone such as the Google Nexus, you could use the NXP NFC Tag Writer app along with the NFC Tags. This app will NDEF encode the tags.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the info. I, finally, found a manufacturer here in Mumbai. Will be visiting their office on this weekend.
I have a Nexus S, so I can still use the NXP Tag Writer to encode the black tags that might procure from the manufacturer.
which is hte guy in Mumbai
Hi,
Can you share me the contact of Mumbai distributor?
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Tell them you want samples. They had only Mifare Classic 1K when I had been there. But thats fine since Nexus supports Classic type.
aTuch.in - Based in Mumbai and Sells NFC Tags & Smart Posters
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Credit/Debit Bill App

I wanted to code something in android . This crude yet useful app was the result
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App Description
This is a simple application for mobile platform (Currently on android) that let's you keep track of your spending through your debit card / credit card on the go . Be it withdrawal through ATM , paying at a restaurant or buying a ticket nothing gets missed .
Salient Features
User Friendly GUI and organization of data
No internet connectivity needed
No manual data input needed
User Bank Credentials Not needed
customizable filtering to know specific details related to your spending's
Backup you spending details to your Google account so that even when
Future additions
Set custom Alias for transactions done from different bank credit \ debit cards
Backup you spending details to your Google account so that even when switching to a different phone , Data loss would not occur.
Charting of your spending trends through bar graphs and pie charts
Know exactly where you made a specific transaction (gps may be needed).
Installation
Just install both the apk's and you will be good to go
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bb8pxph5b4uh0bm/com.bedi.smsrcv.apk
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2j26norgt9io2cr/CreditBill.apk
Screen Shots
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PS: If it's not showing your credit/debit details , please post the pattern of ur credit/debit message so that i can handle it in the code .
Good idea dude! Umm can have more scope of improvement! Keep up
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App that does this

I'm looking for an app that allows you to punch in all your membership IDs. For example, putting in your YMCA, Shoppers club, etc Id numbers into all one app so you don't need the physical cards.
Im sorry if Its hard to word this for your to understand. I just can't quite think or find an app for this. Who knows maybe someone on XDA even developed an app like this
CooLoserTech said:
I'm looking for an app that allows you to punch in all your membership IDs. For example, putting in your YMCA, Shoppers club, etc Id numbers into all one app so you don't need the physical cards.
Im sorry if Its hard to word this for your to understand. I just can't quite think or find an app for this. Who knows maybe someone on XDA even developed an app like this
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I am not sure if there is an app to actually keep this in one place, but there are apps to create a barcode based on a number (I used one to replicate my school ID card so I could check out books using my phone). Maybe one could make an app that would do this, and allow you to name each barcode and store a list of them so you could easily pull it up... Sorta like a pseudo iOS Passbook for Android. Actually that would be really cool. I will consider making such an app if I find time. That's an amazing idea!
Barcode Generator - Google Play Store - I believe this is the app I used. It can also make QR codes. It supports many common formats, so it should work unless the store is using some stupid proprietary system. You can just make the barcodes and save them to your gallery so that you have access to them. I hope this helps.

[Q] Recommendation for a book about NFC HCE with SE

Hi,
i was wondering if anyone could recommend a book regarding NFC HCE development with SIM based SE. I have gathered some background through online research. However it would be nice to have a single point of reference to some fundamentals.
What i am trying to do.
Well basically where i live there is a NFC Payment App that uses SIM based SE. However the developers of this app claims that the software doesn't work on Samsung Galaxy Note 4. Being a software engineer i find it very difficult to accept this claim that Galaxy Note 4 NFC has some fundamental flow.
I have look around their APP with APK tool. I noticed the AndroidManifest is missing some basic artifacts that should be part of a Payment App. Such as AID for the specific Payment Network. It also relies on a library called org.simalliance.openmobileapi for NFC and i feel this part of the code may also be broken.
for example the APP uses permission org.simalliance.openmobileapi.SMARTCARD (and i have seen all NFC related permissions are packaged in this library under this permission)
The Physical card that is being emulated is Mifare Desfire EV1. I already have the required SIM card with SE from the Mobile Provider.
So basically my idea is to follow some guidelines pointed at android dev /guide/topics/connectivity/nfc/hce.htmlnd try to mimic the functionality from the original APP without using the library they had used.
I have already collected a list APDUs from the original APP that i may need to authorize the payment once the Reader and SE has done their authentication.
My only intent is to have the reader successful communicate with a Authentic SE SIM. (and no monkey business)
So if anyone can recommend me a book that might give bit more background on the matter would be great.
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