I bought a Fosmon HDMI cable from Amazon and it never worked with the tablet (ICS .14/5v). No sound, no video with 3 different TV Sets (Sony, Samsung and Sanyo)
Which brands does indeed work in your experience?
Brand will make absolutely no difference in terms of whether the cable should work or not. It's either a bad cable (better brands will be less likely to be bad, but even the highest end brand gets an occasional bad cable) or a problem with your prime. Theoretically it could be a problem with the display but since you tried with 3 different ones that's HIGHLY unlikely. Every micro HDMI cable no matter the manufacturer will be the same not counting production/QC problems.
In terms of brands that more likely will have lower failure rates, just pulling up the amazon list of micro HDMI cables available here are a few that I recognize:
Belkin
HTC
Monster
PNY
Rocketfish
Samsung
Tripp Lite
Yeah you'll probably pay more than $3 for the cables they sell, and the next $3 Fosmon is probably at worst only 25% more likely to be bad than one of them, so you can roll the dice and try with another Fosmon or try a more established brand and hope with your odds better you don't get unlucky again.
Monoprice cables work just fine. I have my entire home theater and all my families setups running off of them. Had at least 20 of their cables and never a bad one. I use this one for my prime:
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...Id=102&categoryId=10253&subCategoryId=1025301
what are you using hdmi for?
Just curious, what is the (your) purpose of using the hdmi out? I don't see a lot of usage for it, but perhaps I am missing something?
rand4ll said:
Monoprice cables work just fine. I have my entire home theater and all my families setups running off of them. Had at least 20 of their cables and never a bad one. I use this one for my prime:
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/Pro...Id=102&categoryId=10253&subCategoryId=1025301
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This, I bought a dongle, hdmi to micro hdmi, works great and only have to carry that around versus a big as cable.
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Just curious, what is the (your) purpose of using the hdmi out? I don't see a lot of usage for it, but perhaps I am missing something?
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Watching movies on a big screen, playing games on a big screen, giving presentations on a big screen.
Imagine your prime as a portable game console or movie player you can plug into any hotel TV. And of course it's just like using a laptop to project a presentation at a business meeting. Yeah you can watch movies and play games on the prime itself but it's nice to be able to throw it up on the 50 inch TV, sit on the couch and play a racing game or whatever.
Monoprice is one of the cheaper cable providers but I have also had fairly good luck with them. I do AV installations as my business and I've used hundreds of them for low cost jobs where I have to hit very aggressive budgets and have had failures but only maybe 10% or so (which is still crazy high for the industry average) and in fairness to them they replace them quickly and without fuss. Digital cables don't have any quality issues beyond the signal gets through reliably or not; once the signal gets through you can literally use a wire hanger bent straight and get the same exact quality as a $5000 monster cable. So I'd feel safe using a Monoprice cable for a digital signal (HDMI, digital coax, optical) but I would recommend not using them for analog signals (RCA, speaker wire, etc). Also since often shipping is more than the cable itself (this micro HDMI cable is actually pretty expensive compared to their normal prices) I normally get a few of whatever I'm ordering to make sure a single bad cable doesn't hold me up.
I use the cord that came with my atrix, works with my 32" LG TV
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At my college they only have VGA on the projectors unless we hang from the ceilings, is it better to get the micro HDMI to VGA or just get the micro to full HDMI and just use adapters to get to VGA?
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so i'm looking into buying another usb wire, being that i have my main wall charger+wire plugged into the wall next to my bed where it charges while i sleep. but my computer is somewhat under my desk and a hassle to get to all the time, so was wanting to have one always plugged into both for less swapping around all the time and also being able to charge while im at the computer if i'm getting a little low.
the only thing i could find that might be right is
http://www.amazon.com/Original-HTC-Wildfire-Supersonic-Incredible/dp/B004T0GHOU/ref=pd_sim_e_3
but i don't see the 3d as part of the compatible devices. more than likely i'm sure it uses the same wire as these phones but i thought i'd ask here and be better safe than sorry.
also, would this wire be exactly the same as the official one? it's kinda cheap, would rather spend a few more bucks to guarantee that i'm getting an official one because ive heard a few stories of bad wires causing grounding issues and botched data syncs and whatnot.
any input is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
I got a charger and cable for 2.80. Search micro usb and you will have much better results.
Can s-off come out and play? You run but you can't hide
anyone else have any specific experience buying an official htc micro usb wire?
http://www.amazon.com/Original-HTC-...GHOU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1310562160&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/SPH-D700-Capt...P8IY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1310562160&sr=8-2
Or I can sell you a brand new set for $15.
This is your chance to get a BETTER USB CABLE so do it. The cables sold by BB and Motorola are better quality and much less likely to kink, etc.
FWIW I've been using a few 6 foot cables from Monoprice with no issues. I used them to charge my old busted Palm Pre, and continue to use them on my 4G and now my 3D. My wife also uses them to charge her Shift... The cables are well over 2 years old and have yet to let me down
I duno if the Evo3D has redesigned cable, but there was report the OG EVO HTC cable have a tendency to short out and may melt/burn
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/04/h...amage-your-computer-burn-your-house-down.html
There is no reason to pay for an "official" cable. You can get better quality cables for less. Monoprice.com is the perfect example of cheap high quality cables. The main thing you need to worry about is the AC adapter not the cable.
I've ordered the cables with ferrite cores off of Monoprice. In each one, the prongs that hold the cable to the phone will eventually sink in and the cable will no longer stick. Monoprice was really good about the issue and gave me a refund (and i didn't even have to return them). The blackberry ones on Amazon have been really good.
I really like the right angle micro USB cables from ezeStand dot com. They are cheap, durable, and work perfectly. I just ordered the bigger stand (old one only works in portrait) and a few extra cables. Going to sugru one of the cables right to the stand to turn it into a one step nighttime dock.
The one that came with my evo 4g is a piece of junk, dosent make a solid connection, i would go to monoprice like mentioned and get some of the 6 foots there and call it a day.
I too will highly recommend monoprice.com
Though one caveat; do NOT use the 10' microUSB cable. Due to the voltages being so low (4.7 if memory serves) the 10' is too long for the full amount of it to go through the long cable. It ends up being like 3.8 (I honestly am pulling this from thin air as I don't feel like looking up the thread even though I have posted in it) and it takes either a long time to charge or as in my case; would not charge while I was using 4G or Wifi.
The 3' cable is PERFECT for a laptop user who has limited space or wants to tether; I have owned them since micro USB was found on my first phone and both of them have been through commercial and industrial settings as well being thrown in a backpack countless times.
The 6' cable is ideal for desktops or as an extra charging cable if purchased with the AC to USB adapters (the white ones work perfect) and have also been using those for at least a year.
Being the type of geek I am, I am VERY anal about the quality of anything technological I purchase because I want the best that is available to me. I am 100% sure there are others just like me here. There is not a single bad thing I can say about monoprice.com , the quality of their cables, their customer service, or their prices.
Yes, some items do cost more than I think they should but I would imagine it is because of the amount of man-hours put into researching what will and will not work. I can always find items that monoprice does not carry (MHL adapters currently) but if enough people send them emails asking for it, they will add it to their stock.
Has anyone here tried hardwiring a power supply to their car dock?
I'm planning on tackling the project in the next few weeks and I can post any relevant pics/info, although the wire routing and dash removal would be different depending on the vehicle. I can at least provide some info on parts and a good way to tie in the charger to the vehicle's wiring.
Anyone who has tried this before is welcome to throw in ideas/tips.
I've done this with every phone I've ever owned, it's no big deal really.
You going to run it on aux power? Or something always on?
I'd seen a tutorial online on another (inferior) android forum that showed a car charger tied in through the dashboard power outlet's wiring.
I used a fuse tap & simply wired it into one of the fuse blocks in my Ford Escape. The power from that runs my phone charger & an HDMI scaler.
I have a 7" dbl DIN DVD/NAV screen in the dash, & I use an MHL adaptor to hook up HDMI video out to that & two other monitor screens in the rear.
I rip DVD movies to my 32 gig card & play them on that setup. I also use SlingMobile to play live TV on those screens while traveling. My wife watched 4 hours of HBO on demand movies while we where traveling recently.
The HDMI also runs music from my card/Pandora/iheart radio/Netflix & Sirius Radio online to the truck system.
To me, this stuff is no big deal but I was an auto mechanic in my younger days & also sold/installed competition grade car stereo setups.
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I used a fuse tap & simply wired it into one of the fuse blocks in my Ford Escape. The power from that runs my phone charger & an HDMI scaler.
I have a 7" dbl DIN DVD/NAV screen in the dash, & I use an MHL adaptor to hook up HDMI video out to that & two other monitor screens in the rear.
I rip DVD movies to my 32 gig card & play them on that setup. I also use SlingMobile to play live TV on those screens while traveling. My wife watched 4 hours of HBO on demand movies while we where traveling recently.
The HDMI also runs music from my card/Pandora/iheart radio/Netflix & Sirius Radio online to the truck system.
To me, this stuff is no big deal but I was an auto mechanic in my younger days & also sold/installed competition grade car stereo setups.
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Good stuff. Are you using a cigarette lighter/aux adapter and just bringing it out or did you find a way to hard wire the micro USB cable directly?
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Good stuff. Are you using a cigarette lighter/aux adapter and just bringing it out or did you find a way to hard wire the micro USB cable directly?
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I hard wired it directly.
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I hard wired it directly.
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Ok, my real question was how did you back it down to .7 amps or whatever the dock charger is? I just phrased it horribly lol
Hey guys I found this mhl adapter on monoprice and it's $10.20. By far one of the cheapest out there. Also monoprice has great build quality on their products! Here's the product link http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8805&seq=1&format=2, and here's their video on it! They use it on our evo 3d's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P5tJl_a_wcc
Yep - that's already been discussed many times under the MHL adapter threads. There have been many reviews about that particular adapter - including mine.
Honestly - I have no complaints about my MHL adapter.
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Yep - that's already been discussed many times under the MHL adapter threads. There have been many reviews about that particular adapter - including mine.
Honestly - I have no complaints about my MHL adapter.
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Really!? I've never seen it haha thanks! Do you like it?
I do - it works well. You just have to make sure you're using the right app - beause they don't all look equally as sharp.
For example - Diceplayer looks better when playing video than the stock gallery app in my opinion.
All that said, I just decided to order this adapter since it was so cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821533138
I was looking for a 2nd MHL adapter to throw in my car, and this price ($6) was about right. I'll report back how it works when I get it.
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I do - it works well. You just have to make sure you're using the right app - beause they don't all look equally as sharp.
For example - Diceplayer looks better when playing video than the stock gallery app in my opinion.
All that said, I just decided to order this adapter since it was so cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821533138
I was looking for a 2nd MHL adapter to throw in my car, and this price ($6) was about right. I'll report back how it works when I get it.
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Awesome i'll probably order mine from monoprice just cause I've gotten such great products from them.
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Hey guys I found this mhl adapter on monoprice and it's $10.20. By far one of the cheapest out there. Also monoprice has great build quality on their products! Here's the product link http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8805&seq=1&format=2, and here's their video on it! They use it on our evo 3d's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P5tJl_a_wcc
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I bought it when it went on sale a couple weeks ago for something like 9 bucks shipped. I wouldn't recommend it. The battery drains even when plugged in (which has to be plugged in to work). If you read the reviews monoprice actually responded that it only can input of 500mA which is only half of what the stock charger puts out but standard for USB ports on a PC. Don't know if its an MHL flaw or a monoprice adapter flaw but a 720p movie with the phone in airplane mode still managed to drain the battery in under 2 hours. You also can't manually change resolution although that's a limitation on the phone. This really isn't a problem as it defaults to 720p for most TVs but I did have it go to a really low resolution in a monitor.
Don't blame the monoprice adapter, that's a weakness with all mhl adapters. There was a guy who claimed his was charging, but checking the system settings showed he was limited to USB charging and not AC.
The key is not having other apps running or services you don't need. On an airplane, you should have gotten a much better discharge rate! The last time I used mine at a friends house to watch a 720p MKV, I had over 90% of my battery left. I figured I could have watched over 10 hours of video. If you're streaming, you will burn more battery obviously.
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Don't blame the monoprice adapter, that's a weakness with all mhl adapters. There was a guy who claimed his was charging, but checking the system settings showed he was limited to USB charging and not AC.
The key is not having other apps running or services you don't need. On an airplane, you should have gotten a much better discharge rate! The last time I used mine at a friends house to watch a 720p MKV, I had over 90% of my battery left. I figured I could have watched over 10 hours of video. If you're streaming, you will burn more battery obviously.
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That's crazy ill have to try with a clean install. Also wish I could turnoff the backlight wwithout turning off the LCD. That would save some power. I though it might have been an MHL limitation but I have seen 1amp MHL adapters. That could just be the reseller making up specs they don't know. Really huge design flaw in my og Evo I could stream any content and it would still charge even with Bluetooth enabled. Shame you have to cripple the phone so much so it doesn't die on you.
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That's crazy ill have to try with a clean install. Also wish I could turnoff the backlight wwithout turning off the LCD. That would save some power. I though it might have been an MHL limitation but I have seen 1amp MHL adapters. That could just be the reseller making up specs they don't know. Really huge design flaw in my og Evo I could stream any content and it would still charge even with Bluetooth enabled. Shame you have to cripple the phone so much so it doesn't die on you.
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Yeah, buy you had two connections into your phone with the OG Evo. The MHL adaptor will eventually (when tv's come with it) only need the HDMI cable and hopefully charge more than the USB does.
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Yeah, buy you had two connections into your phone with the OG Evo. The MHL adaptor will eventually (when tv's come with it) only need the HDMI cable and hopefully charge more than the USB does.
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Didn't think they would.wrap it into a TV but if 500mA is an MHL limitation then it really wouldn't make a difference since the stock charger already outputs more than that and what the adaptot itself consumes.
Nice find! I was looking on Amazon for an MHL adapter, but glad I checked here before purchasing one.
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That's crazy ill have to try with a clean install. Also wish I could turnoff the backlight wwithout turning off the LCD. That would save some power. I though it might have been an MHL limitation but I have seen 1amp MHL adapters. That could just be the reseller making up specs they don't know. Really huge design flaw in my og Evo I could stream any content and it would still charge even with Bluetooth enabled. Shame you have to cripple the phone so much so it doesn't die on you.
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Can you point me to any 1 AMP advertised MHL adapters?
Even if they work for other phones, this phone's funny. I have quite a few 2.1A chargers, both car and AC - and not all of them charge beyond USB charging rate. It seems one or two of the micro usb pins need to be shorted to charge our phone at a rate higher than 0.5A.
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I do - it works well. You just have to make sure you're using the right app - beause they don't all look equally as sharp.
For example - Diceplayer looks better when playing video than the stock gallery app in my opinion.
All that said, I just decided to order this adapter since it was so cheap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110821533138
I was looking for a 2nd MHL adapter to throw in my car, and this price ($6) was about right. I'll report back how it works when I get it.
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I just got this EBAY adapter - and I haven't had a chance to fully test it. It wouldn't work for HDMI out - so I thought it was defective, but I realized I haven't used MHL since I rooted my phone (olympus rom). I used my monoprice adapter and also wasn't able to get it to work, though it ran very well when the phone was stock. So I'll wait to review until I flash a new rom that actally lets me use the MHL adapter properly.
One thing that shows promise is that when I charge through the EBAY $6 MHL adapter, it shows up as AC charging on my phone. The monoprice shows up as USB charging. I've also confirmed that it definitely charges faster.
I'll still have to test whether or not it actually works - and if it'll actually charge faster IN USE. I'll let you guys know. If it does work and charge faster than the mono price adapter, I'll post here and start a new thread. Otherwise, I'll report back and apologize.
I updated to a kernel which allowed HDMI out and tested the new HDMI adapter. Visually, back to back with the monoprice adapter - the EBAY $6 adapter worked just as good. That is to say that the picture looked idetically sharp.
I then played a 42 minute 720P MKV through diceplayer - and my phone's charge increased from 66% to 70%. It's the first time I've seen that with an MHL adapter.
With this new kernel (Anthrax R13) - this MHL adapter now shows charging my phone as being via USB instead of AC. But next, I plan to play an identical video with the monoprice adapter - to see if my charge level increases or drains in use.
I'll start a new thread when I have the results, but regardless, at $6 - this EBAY cheapie has to be the best value yet.
Are there any other kernel/rom options that would support hdmi out to tv? Thanks
One thing you might want to consider if using this with the HTC dock, is that the Monoprice adapter won't fit well. You have to force the micro usb in. To use it in the dock, you need a micro usb adapter that has the micro end with a less bulky plastic enclosure. The curved side of the tip needs to be closer to the plastic edge. The adapter I got from eBay fits better, without forcing or bending. You could also try carving away excess material.
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I'll start a new thread when I have the results, but regardless, at $6 - this EBAY cheapie has to be the best value yet.
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I've got a 10£ ebay special and lovin it no probs.
THISIS50 if its hot its here
Anyone tried to fit the Amaze 4G on a lapdock? Can't find any posts via search
Those Lapdocks (eg Atrix Lapdock) go on sale for ~$50, basically a display, keyboard, battery and trackpad.
Below is someone's hack for raspberry pi on the lapdock.... since amaze 4G has HDMI out, only thing to do is to see if we can get the cables to fit properly, and the USB functionality(keyboard+trackpad) to work, and the software
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/21/3105822/motorola-lapdock-hacked-raspberry-pi-rikomagic
So I did a bit of digging...
The Amaze uses a MHL connector (see wiki) which allows for access to HDMI and USB over one connector. The lapdocks seem to have two connectors to plug into the Motorola phones. It doesn't seem like a big issue to replace the cable from the lapdock with a MHL one that you could probably buy off ebay.
Double check which pin corresponds to which wires on the MHL and also on the USB and HDMI cable from the lapdock, cut the wires, re solder, heat shrink, close the lapdock back up....profit???
That's as far as I can tell regarding connecting the hardware the phone. I'm willing to bet that the HDMI will output directly to the screen fine without any software adjustment. But I'm unsure about the keyboard and trackpad.
Thoughts?
I'd be willing to give this a try if there's interest.
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So I did a bit of digging...
The Amaze uses a MHL connector (see wiki) which allows for access to HDMI and USB over one connector. The lapdocks seem to have two connectors to plug into the Motorola phones. It doesn't seem like a big issue to replace the cable from the lapdock with a MHL one that you could probably buy off ebay.
Double check which pin corresponds to which wires on the MHL and also on the USB and HDMI cable from the lapdock, cut the wires, re solder, heat shrink, close the lapdock back up....profit???
That's as far as I can tell regarding connecting the hardware the phone. I'm willing to bet that the HDMI will output directly to the screen fine without any software adjustment. But I'm unsure about the keyboard and trackpad.
Thoughts?
I'd be willing to give this a try if there's interest.
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from looking at the raspberry pi and other stuff(laptop/wii connected to the hdmi port), you'll get a "mirrored" display... the keyboard/trackpad depends on the usb connection/driver/OTG Kernel, dunno about that
Youll need
Lapdock: $20-$60 (i'd suggest getting the atrix/bionic versions, not the motorola 500 one)
http://www.all4cellular.com/product/motorola-atrix-4g-laptop-dock-hdmi-upgrade-kit.html
http://slickdeals.net/f/5035746-Lapdock-ATRIX-4G-60-and-Droid-Bionic-90
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29994146&postcount=16
MHL connector for HDMI: $10-$35
Official http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Adaptor-Jetstream-Tablets-Package/dp/B005LSOPN4
Unofficial, may need USB cable for power http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
->I can't get any clear indication that the USB data from phone passes through to the USB connector on the MHL adapter
maybe some HDMI cables/connector (HDMI male from MHL connector to miniHDMI female on the lapdock)
I have a tablet and a netbook too, so don't think I'll be attempting this for now
the 35Whr battery(from googling), people say it can charge your phone a couple of times over(your phone's battery is 4Volts*2AmpHr = 8Whr)
I'll see if I can find a cheap one here in Canada.
It's a rather interesting concept.
It kinda reminds me of this.http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
Definitely interested in this, would be cool to have this setup.
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went to a radioshack nearby, they didn't have it..
bascially, i would only get one if its around $20 (since you can charge phone with it, $20 for a large battery is worth it, though not for the laptop form factor)
The only docks I can get my hands on are $50+ from ebay. This idea is such a niche product...I'm trying to think of a time where this could be useful.
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The only docks I can get my hands on are $50+ from ebay. This idea is such a niche product...I'm trying to think of a time where this could be useful.
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commute on a train/bus, could watch video on a larger screen while charging your battery
if we had the software to support it as well (like the ubuntu-phone posted earlier or webtop options), could compose email or edit code on the go...
Isn't that why we have laptops?
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Isn't that why we have laptops?
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if you want to spend more than $200, a laptop
if you want just one device that has everything loaded, and customizable(via the lapdock), maybe a netbook or this lapdock
i guess that's why the Atrix Lapdocks are selling at a discount... the manufacturers couldn't find a good way to advertise this expensive device (MSRP is $300 or so)
it's available for $40 on bensoutlet
http://slickdeals.net/f/5501414-AT-T-Motorola-11-6-Lapdock-40-FS
http://bensoutlet.com/products/lapdock-atrix
1% in stock left...
I got one, will play with it
We don't have hdmi
I took the dock section apart n tried to plug in my amaze to the built in hdmi but no go with netflix. I'll try something else and report back.
Living life in reverse....
chozyn said:
I took the dock section apart n tried to plug in my amaze to the built in hdmi but no go with netflix. I'll try something else and report back.
Living life in reverse....
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We don't have hdmi
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yes we do, via the ExtMicro / MHL port
http://androidforums.com/htc-amaze-4g/500285-clearing-air-mhl-hdmi-adapters-amaze.html
I heard that the Amaze 4G is picky about which MHL cable it accepts, and the kernel/android build on it must support HDMI out
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So I'm looking at this cable from Monoprice.
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10255&cs_id=1025505&p_id=10330&seq=1&format=2
Do I even need a cable like this? Or would a more generic (and cheaper) one such as this do?
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10242&cs_id=1024201&p_id=7648&seq=1&format=2
I just ordered a second controller and started stockpiling some ROMs so my wife and I can enjoy some nostalgic gaming. Just need a cable to complete the experience.
Redmere use a MEA1689 chipset to reduce the cable size without impacting the signal so basically using less copper to potentially save cost while also providing much smaller cable, as you are looking into a 10FT length any cable should do well for your setup if it is well made, but if you are looking for a more flexible cabling then the active one can help
namurt said:
So I'm looking at this cable from Monoprice.
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10255&cs_id=1025505&p_id=10330&seq=1&format=2
Do I even need a cable like this? Or would a more generic (and cheaper) one such as this do?
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10242&cs_id=1024201&p_id=7648&seq=1&format=2
I just ordered a second controller and started stockpiling some ROMs so my wife and I can enjoy some nostalgic gaming. Just need a cable to complete the experience.
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