I will soon post a pack of HD games compatible with Galaxy Player YP-G70 AMERICA VERSION
Awesome! Will you include the data that they generally have to download when you first start the app too?
Well, maybe you didn't read the rules when you registered like you should have, but you should be able to guess by previous attempts of piracy; XDA HAS A STRICT NO-PIRACY POLICY! PIRACY IS A SCOURGE TO SOCIETY!
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I will soon post a pack of HD games compatible with Galaxy Player YP-G70 AMERICA VERSION
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I suggest you don't post those links unless you want to say goodbye to XDA forever. (banned)
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If you want the game, buy the game, then you support the developer, who uses the money to upgrade the game and make new games, are you getting this? Spread an illegal copy of the game, no money goes to the developer, then he has to stop developing and updating, then you will complain about how there are no good games! I just explained the concept of piracy in nice little baby-steps so you could understand the consequence of becoming a pirate, I hope that was simple enough to understand so I don't have to make a youtube video about it, LOL! If you look at the front page of the portal, you will see another consequence of even greater importance you pirates are bringing upon us!
I agree with everybody. But I bought all gameloft from my OP Black (Asphalt 5,6 , Modern Combat 2,3 etc ) and I can't download for my SS Player . I already buy it but I want to play with my SS Player. Am I wrong ?
Check this out, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1435617
If you want to get it from the market, check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133702
Your market will probably automatically update back to Google play after doing that (if you're in a supported region) but I find it still works even after the market updates, so enjoy!
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I just tried modern combat black pegasus from gameloft and oh my god.
The graphics are outstanding the ememy actually tries to find u and shoot u.
It has no lag
The game feels like black ops.
Get it now!
Oh yeah did i forget it has MULTIPLAYER where u can add friends join them etc.
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Its not in market u have to buy from gamelofts website
try splinter cell nice graphics tooo !
Guys there is a gameloft special right now. Visit their website, while on 3g (not wifi) and you will see their weely special banner at the top of their website. Their special right now is buy 1 get 1 free. I got black pegasus and spiderman for 5 bucks total. I'm debating getting 2 more.
I agree black pegasus is awesome. So awesome in fact that I haven't even tried spiderman. Spiderman has gotten some great reviews so i'm sure its good as well.
Another +1 for MC2 here. I read a review somewhere that said "If you have a Galaxy S phone and have any interest in first person shooters you owe it to yourself to pick up this game."
That was all I needed to hear. Well worth $5.
Dammit... (Do not support Gameloft via gameloft.com- unfair practices)
Now I remember why I don't like gameloft games. Unlike games from the android market it won't run on both of my phones which is okay I suppose. Luckily I downloaded it on my vibrant and not on my DX. Not only that but if you ever reinstall it, the game wont work (titanium may work - will have to test). I am not for piracy at all, however when I buy a game on the xbox, I can use that game on any xbox however many times I want to play it or install it because I now own it. The same unfortunately cannot be said for gameloft games. It's as though they're begging people to pirate their crap.
B.S. I say!
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Now I remember why I don't like gameloft games. Unlike games from the android market it won't run on both of my phones which is okay I suppose. Luckily I downloaded it on my vibrant and not on my DX. Not only that but if you ever reinstall it, the game wont work (titanium may work - will have to test). I am not for piracy at all, however when I buy a game on the xbox, I can use that game on any xbox however many times I want to play it or install it because I now own it. The same unfortunately cannot be said for gameloft games. It's as though they're begging people to pirate their crap.
B.S. I say!
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Yeah, basically all of them are cracked already. MC 2 is easily my fav game for phone tho. gameloft surpasses everyone in the quality dept as far as I'm concerned.
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Paging Dr B said:
Now I remember why I don't like gameloft games. Unlike games from the android market it won't run on both of my phones which is okay I suppose. Luckily I downloaded it on my vibrant and not on my DX. Not only that but if you ever reinstall it, the game wont work (titanium may work - will have to test). I am not for piracy at all, however when I buy a game on the xbox, I can use that game on any xbox however many times I want to play it or install it because I now own it. The same unfortunately cannot be said for gameloft games. It's as though they're begging people to pirate their crap.
B.S. I say!
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So..... If I buy a game from them and say,, flashing a new rom clears the game off,, Gameloft will not let me re-download the game??
Big Dog KMc said:
So..... If I buy a game from them and say,, flashing a new rom clears the game off,, Gameloft will not let me re-download the game??
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Nope.
Takr the apk and put t on your pc is what i did or titanium backup
Where can I get this game? I searched the market with no luck?
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Where can I get this game? I searched the market with no luck?
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Gamelofts website.
Hello I have an xperia play and bought some games on Gameloft. So just wandering if it's possible to transfer the same games to use on my galaxy, or I have to purchase the games again.? Also its not very clear which games actually work on the galaxy, the game hub only has a phew games that cannot be it surely.?
I'm probably not qualified to answer this, but I'll give it a stab - assuming you brought them through the Android Market, they're associated with your Google account and you can install them on other devices without having to re-purchase them.
Simply add your Google account to the new phone, go to the "My Apps" page and you find them in your list of Purchased but not installed software.
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Hello I have an xperia play and bought some games on Gameloft. So just wandering if it's possible to transfer the same games to use on my galaxy, or I have to purchase the games again.? Also its not very clear which games actually work on the galaxy, the game hub only has a phew games that cannot be it surely.?
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Gameloft are greedy. The games are imei locked and device specific. So you need to wait for sgs2 compatible games, and repurchase them afaik
I don't approve of their business model, so I simply don't buy or use Gameloft games. They could put games on market, but they would only sell it once per person...
I think it's that greed that forces piracy to prosper honestly I don't support piracy but imagine i already paid over 25 £ to Gameloft and they now want me to pay another 25£ imagine. No wander why the iphone itunes model is much better and android is way to fragmented.
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I think it's that greed that forces piracy to prosper honestly I don't support piracy but imagine i already paid over 25 £ to Gameloft and they now want me to pay another 25£ imagine. No wander why the iphone itunes model is much better and android is way to fragmented.
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I wouldn't necessarily blame this on android fragmentation..
I'd point the finger more towards the greedy companies, like gameloft, for making their games in such a way that it encourages "fragmentation".
I mean half the arguments against Android are actually based on the companies that provide apps and software, not the android platform itself...
Just my two cents.
Back on topic:
But you gotta admit, gameloft games are pretty damn good.. if not a bit overpriced due to the incompatibility issues..
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Gameloft are greedy. The games are imei locked and device specific. So you need to wait for sgs2 compatible games, and repurchase them afaik
I don't approve of their business model, so I simply don't buy or use Gameloft games. They could put games on market, but they would only sell it once per person...
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If you e-mail them they will usually just send you the correct version for your new phone, their customer service is usually pretty good, I've never had to buy the same game again for another device, at least not yet.
marvi0 said:
Hello I have an xperia play and bought some games on Gameloft. So just wandering if it's possible to transfer the same games to use on my galaxy, or I have to purchase the games again.? Also its not very clear which games actually work on the galaxy, the game hub only has a phew games that cannot be it surely.?
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There are no versions available via the website and GT-i9100 is not listed yet, you can currently only get them via the Games Hub and some of them look like cut down versions of the games, blocky textures and poor draw distance.
Hi
I bought over 15 gameloft games for my Galaxy S1. I have got now S2 and NONE of those I bought work ( I always save original donwloaded .apk) I emailed gameloft saying as well I can't even access their site as I'm getting NOT RECOGNIZED warning so as soon as I got update I will post it here.
J.K.
jkrestes said:
Hi
I bought over 15 gameloft games for my Galaxy S1. I have got now S2 and NONE of those I bought work ( I always save original donwloaded .apk) I emailed gameloft saying as well I can't even access their site as I'm getting NOT RECOGNIZED warning so as soon as I got update I will post it here.
J.K.
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It uses a different GPU to the Galaxy S so it's not likely to work, they will have to release versions for the Galaxy S2, once they do they will probably send you the updated apks if you tell them you changed your phone.
It's a shame Samsung didn't choose to go with the latest PowerVR GPU as that would have made things allot easier, Mali 400MP in the Galaxy S2 does not support some texture compression formats some developers are using so that will also cause problems.
Of course if they just stuck to the OpenGL ES 2.0 specs to start with we wouldn't have this problem.
Hi and thanks a lot for explanation. It is real shame and I hope this amazing phone won't be suffering of too many uncompatible games as that would damaged it's great potential. It is fast like a wind and I can't wait for some polished custom roms like last Darky's 10.6 by which I was really impressed on my Galaxy 1
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Hey guys,
This is probably my first question topic on XDA in all my 500+ posts ...so here goes!
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Do you guys kknow any good working Nintendo DS Emulators for Android?
I can't find any when u search the market.
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Can you provide some Market Links if there are any on the market and also if there's none on the market but exists elsewhere, post here ONLY IF ITS FREE!
I'm not getting caught for warez. I'm not asking for warez.
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Thanks guys,
Shane
nds4droid. It's quite crappy, but google it XD
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Your like a bloody sidekick!
there is no working nds emulator yet at least not for android. they are working on it but even on high end devices it runs slow an buggy. you can read more here.
technabob.com/blog/2011/02/04/tiger-lab-ds-emulator-for-android/
there is a topic here on xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969977
"It is just DEMO and speed is very very very very slow even on high-end phones. You shall not expect to play nds game with the emulator."
Please don't bother hogging on NDS4DROID, the developer got too greedy and wanted money but didn't want to work on it even though it ran only on 2 fps for 10 dollars.
He has no intentions on releasing the year old source code since he is afraid that others will profit from it and is now currently working on dead beat mobile projects.
And as for TIGERLabs, well they are known for not giving a **** about further developing their projects.
Considering ANdroid phones are getting more and more powerful now (quad-core phones and 1GB+ RAM), it should be possible to create a Nintendo DS emulator that will run smoothly.
also imagine if u had ur phone or tablet hooked to ur tv, the tablet could be the touch screen and the big screen can be the top screen, theirs alot u could do.
Wonder if it would ever happen
It would be practical for certain games and especially on tablets. Since they have the extra real estate. Really I wanna play maybe Pokemon and Brain Age.
Tablets especially could benefit from the larger screen space.
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Hey guys,
This is probably my first question topic on XDA in all my 500+ posts ...so here goes!
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Do you guys kknow any good working Nintendo DS Emulators for Android?
I can't find any when u search the market.
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Can you provide some Market Links if there are any on the market and also if there's none on the market but exists elsewhere, post here ONLY IF ITS FREE!
I'm not getting caught for warez. I'm not asking for warez.
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Thanks guys,
Shane
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Have a look at Dsoid
It's not brilliant at the moment, but I believe it's actively being worked on at least.
- Swift - said:
Hey guys,
This is probably my first question topic on XDA in all my 500+ posts ...so here goes!
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Do you guys kknow any good working Nintendo DS Emulators for Android?
I can't find any when u search the market.
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Can you provide some Market Links if there are any on the market and also if there's none on the market but exists elsewhere, post here ONLY IF ITS FREE!
I'm not getting caught for warez. I'm not asking for warez.
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Thanks guys,
Shane
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Try this app: DraStic ...it's fluid, maybe there are little bugs but it's really fast and works very well !!
You can search a little to find the apk for free.. (Personally I found and it's work perfectly..)
So I kinda have always noticed this since I switched from the Iphone to an android but I really noticed today that alot of big game companys like Taito,Capcom, Square Enix, etc. have been looming around on the Apple App Store for years now and yet they havent really made the leap over to the Android platform, it kinda pisses me off cause games I love like MegaMan X and Bust-A-Move (Im sure alot of you cant relate with those in particular but you get the point) and their company's have made good mobile versions for the App Store, and yet after years of them being on there they never seem to get ported to android. What really blows my mind about all of this is that these said companies actually sell SOME of their games on Google Play. Like i dont get that at all, for example Megaman 2 was released by Capcom on the Apple App Store 5 YEARS AGO and still hasn't shown up on android. Like why sell only a few of your good mobile games to Android users and give the Apple users the whole lot?? I get it that Apple came first as the world's first very popular smartphone and they had the first successful mobile application market, but its been 5 years, android is just as popular as Apple and their store deserves these classics. I say its time to expand your games to other platform users. Besides, dont you want more money???
Search for alternatives
Yeah, it's true that a lot of games are missing in the Play Store, but there is nothing you can do about it...
The best solution for you could be more waiting (yeah, it sucks!) or just playing an alternative!
For Megaman I think that you could play a GameBoy game of it (there are a lot!). Just download an emulator in the Play Store and get the ROM!
For the other games, there aren't a lot possibilities... You could maybe look if there is a PC-Version available!
Have a nice day
The_Mighty_Muffin
The_Mighty_Muffin said:
Yeah, it's true that a lot of games are missing in the Play Store, but there is nothing you can do about it...
The best solution for you could be more waiting (yeah, it sucks!) or just playing an alternative!
For Megaman I think that you could play a GameBoy game of it (there are a lot!). Just download an emulator in the Play Store and get the ROM!
For the other games, there aren't a lot possibilities... You could maybe look if there is a PC-Version available!
Have a nice day
The_Mighty_Muffin
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I mean I have improvised, for example, there's no bust a move for Google play, but I got a ps1 emulator and got roms of my favs bust a move 2,3, and 4 and I can play all those and they run very well. So yea it does suck, but since GP isn't locked down, I can use that to improvise. So yea, it is stupid to keep good games exclusive to the App Store when these company's can get more money and stop pointlessly alienating other mobile demographics, but yea I know there is always a silver lining.
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I'm pretty sure its something to do with devs of the games not wanting to make apps for android because of piracy
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Its my 1st post!!
In the months since our initial release
of the Most Hardcore Emulators on
Earth, there has been a plethora of
Android emulator releases, and so our
emulation-meister, Travis Fahs,
decided that it an ideal time update
and augment his epic list, and so we
present to you The Most Hardcore
Emulators on Earth 2.0. ~ed.
We all love our Androids, but let’s face
it. We still have a way to go to catch up
to iOS’s massive library of games. But
Google’s permissive market standards
and Android’s ease of side-loading
(installing non-market apps) makes it
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of thousands of games that iOS users
can’t play without having to jailbreak
their phones.
Those same lax approval standards that
allow emulators to run rampant also
mean there’s a lot of garbage to filter
through. Many emulators on the
market are just clones or hacks of
others’ work, while others are
overpriced compared to more robust
alternatives. It can be tough to pick the
right one for your favorite system, so
Hardcore Droid is here to share our
picks for each of our favorite systems.
(1) RetroArch
RetroArch is an effort to bridge the gap
between PC and Android emulation, by
offering a very powerful, accurate
emulator that supports more than a
dozen systems, and by doing it all for
free. With such broad support, it’s
pretty much a must-have for any
emulation fan. It’s the only way to
play Virtual Boy games or Cave Story,
and it offers the best Sega CD emulation
you’ll find on the Android. While it’s a
bit lacking in terms of interface and
usability, and some of the cores are
pretty slow, it offers some of the most
accurate, high-quality emulation
around, and support for more systems
is on the way.
(2) MSX.emu
The MSX probably isn’t nostalgic for
many English-speakers, but the 8-bit
computers had some of the best
Japanese computer games of their time.
Home to many Konami classics,
including the original Metal Gear,
Metal Gear 2, and Snatcher, the MSX
came in a variety of flavors, and quite
a few add ons. MSX.emu is based on
BlueMSX, arguably the best emulator
for the system on PC, so expect nearly
flawless compatibility and support. As
an added bonus, there’s also support
for the ColecoVision, which featured
very similar hardware. The price tag
may be enough to scare some away,
however.
(3) fMSX
Marat Fayzullin is one of the
godfathers of the emulation scene,
developing some of the very first multi-
platform emulators in the world,
establishing many of the cores that
would be used by others, as well as
creating some of the file formats still
used today. He began fMSX 20 years
ago, and amazingly enough still finds
time to work on it. There are a number
of appealing features here, including
interesting video filters, music
recording, and touch screen mouse
support. Best of all, it’s available in an
ad-supported free flavor, as well as a
paid app.
(4) Marvin
For kids who grew up in the UK in the
early ‘80s, the ZX Spectrum conjures as
many memories as the NES does for
those of us in America. Uncle Clive’s 8-
bit computer led the charge of
inexpensive PCs that parents were
scooping up for their “educational
value.” Of course all most kids wanted
it for was to play games. The primitive
graphics and sound haven’t aged well,
but that doesn’t make Jetpac or Knight
Lore any less of a blast. Marvin is a
genuinely great little emulator, and one
of those that is completely free, so even
if you’re a newbie to the system, you
might want to dive in. Lots of great
control options and speedy
performance make this a stand-out,
even with other options available.
(5) Frodo C64
Any discussion of 8-bit computers
would be incomplete without some love
for the Commodore 64. There are a
few options out there, and none of
them are perfect, but Frodo 64 offers
solid emulation in a free, open-source
package. Those SID tunes still sound
great with a pair of headphones.
Juggling keyboard and joystick controls
can be a bit of a bear, but maybe that
will finally justify that iControlPad 2
purchase.
(Arcade)
(6) MAME4Droid Reloaded
Arcade emulation has always been
tricky, since it’s really a collection of
hundreds of different pieces of
hardware that may or may not share
some components. MAME is one of the
most important emulators of all time
because it manages to cull all of these
into one package, and for broad
compatibility, it is the only option. But
MAME was built for accuracy, not
speed, and even high-end PCs can
struggle with some games. As a result,
most versions of MAME made for less
powerful or portable systems have
been based on a version of MAME
released in 2000, back when speed was
more of a priority, and this is the case
with the classiv version of
MAME4Droid as well. This means it
runs a tiny fraction of the games its PC
counterpart does, and features many
bugs that have since been squashed.
Seleuco’s Reloaded release puts Big Boy
MAME in the palm of your hands for
the first time. Based on a relatively
modern build (0.139, released in 2010),
it features accurate emulation and
broad compatibility. The downside, of
course, is that it requires a monster CPU
to run, and anything past the 16-bit era
is still probably too choppy to be worth
playing, but we can’t wait to see what
it can do on the Nexus 4. Alas, both
versions of MAME are badly crippled
by poor control options, and an
inability to save these options on a per-
game basis, so it’s not recommended
unless you have a good control pad.
(7) NEO.emu
MAME may be the all-in-wonder, but
there are better options when it comes
to specific systems. NEO.emu offers
fast, accurate Neo Geo emulation for
both the console and arcade versions.
As the most popular arcade hardware
of all time, this opens up quite a few
options for classic 16-bit action. Bonus
points for making sure the touch screen
controls support four presses at once,
for those bold enough to attempt King
of Fighters without a controller.
(8) CPSEmu
Capcom’s CPS2 was their go-to 16-bit
machine from Super Street Fighter II
all the way through Marvel vs. Capcom
and beyond. Although it’s mostly of
interest to fighting game fans, a few
oddballs like Progear and Super Pang
buck the trend. This emulator is
available completely for free from
XDA, and is not currently available on
the Play Store.
(NES)
(9) NES.emu
Robert Broglia’s work is going to come
up a lot in the feature, because every
one of his emulators is top-notch. They
share a common framework and
feature set, which includes excellent
external controller support and robust
video options, but they also go the extra
mile for their individual systems. Not
only does NES.emu support a wide
range of mappers for broad
compatibility thanks to the FCEUX
codebase, but it also supports the
Famicom Disk System, which opens up
a sizable library of imports, as well as
the famous zapper, so you can play
Duck Hunt on the touch screen.
(10) Nesoid
Nesoid was one of the first emulator
casualties of the Android Market. At
Nintendo’s request, a small handful of
emulators were permanently banned
from the market, including Nesoid.
That hasn’t stopped it though, as you
can still download it and side-load it
manually, or nab it off of an
alternative market app. Nesoid isn’t
quite as polished as NES.emu, but it is
available for free now, which might
make it an attractive alternative. It’s
also very fast, for those still rocking a
G1.
Huuuuuuu.........
I really deserve atleast 1 thanks for my hard work!!
Bye
Was the first one to thank!Good Work Though....
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Thanx!!
The war lord !!
Hey ,
RetroArch Android Isn't Compatible With Galaxy Y.......
Any Ports?? Download Links??
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Currently i m using my boy! (gba emulator)(paid) . From my point of view it is the best emulator available in market & gba supports above 2000games so i love it !!
I m New here so i can't use any external link!! :'(
The war lord !!
Thank you sir!
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Thanks for the download link!
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U r welcome!! Now tell me ur experience with MY BOY!
1hewar10rd said:
Currently i m using my boy! (gba emulator)(paid) . From my point of view it is the best emulator available in market & gba supports above 2000games so i love it !!
U can download my boy! Here
I m New here so i can't use any external link!! :'(
The war lord !!
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is it the paid version? den u r not allowed to share it on xda! plz remove the link or i will report it!
Ok!! Dude i m New so i don't know that!!
The war lord !!
But many people share link of paid apps on xda??
:thumbdown::thumbdown::what::what::screwy::beer:
1hewar10rd said:
But many people share link of paid apps on xda??
:thumbdown::thumbdown::what::what::screwy::beer:
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Nope they don't....
Mahn , please remove it....
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1hewar10rd said:
U r welcome!! Now tell me ur experience with MY BOY!
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Yeah really good for games like Dragon Ball Z!!
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try using gameboid its free and better than my boy although not on playstore anymore
Can u share the link of gameboid or PM the link!!
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Can u share the link of gameboid or PM the link!!
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sure and its free. here it is just select .bin file when you start application
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jbiyuud9dea0zqd/gameboid.zip
amit34521 said:
sure and its free. here it is just select .bin file when you start application
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jbiyuud9dea0zqd/gameboid.zip
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Only better graphics then my BOY!!
1hewar10rd said:
Ok!! Dude i m New so i don't know that!!
The war lord !!
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1hewar10rd said:
But many people share link of paid apps on xda??
:thumbdown::thumbdown::what::what::screwy::beer:
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Read the forum rules then, also I recommend watching the noob video again. And as it happens outside of the Galaxy Y forums there is hardly any warez. Galaxy Y just happens to be a hotbed for warez due to a lot of pre-teen users.
Do not post warez in future, it is not looked upon well.
1hewar10rd said:
Currently i m using my boy! (gba emulator)(paid) . From my point of view it is the best emulator available in market & gba supports above 2000games so i love it !!
I m New here so i can't use any external link!! :'(
The war lord !!
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My boy is the best
amit34521 said:
try using gameboid its free and better than my boy although not on playstore anymore
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Gameboid has problems with a few games so I switched to my boy and liked it better
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Jonny said:
Read the forum rules then, also I recommend watching the noob video again. And as it happens outside of the Galaxy Y forums there is hardly any warez. Galaxy Y just happens to be a hotbed for warez due to a lot of pre-teen users.
Do not post warez in future, it is not looked upon well.
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Ok!! Sorry Dude!! I m searching 4 that guy who post the link for a paid app (Rom manager pro)
The war lord !!