***SORRY, I REALISE I HAVE POSTED IN THE WRONG SECTION, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN Q&A, COULD A MOD PLEASE MOVE IT, SORRY***
I feel like i'm being a right royal pain in the as* asking this, but will someone please give me a few pointers on where to start with the rooting process please. I know most of you will be thinking "read the stickies and the forum posts" which i promise you i have for nearly two weeks now, but its an absolute minefield of information and i honestly don't know where to start. This is my first Android handset and the first time i have used the Android operating system, and this is the information i can give you about the handset i have, and by the way, its a european gsm handset with no branding and open to any carrier if this helps..........
Its an HTC Evo 3D X515m
Running Android 2.3.4
Software 1.20.401.8, and when i looked to check my HBOOT (i think thats what its called from reading other posts) this is what i see........
***Locked***
SHOOTER_U PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.49.0018
eMMC-boot
oct 3 2011, 15.03.01
From what i can gather from reading the forums i think i need to first get my bootloader to 1.49.007, and to achieve this i firstly installed a file, which was, PG86IMG.zip onto my sd card, let my handset find it, and reboot in bootloader..........but nothing at all happened. I have no idea if i am barking up the wrong tree or whatever. I also read on many posts that you can unlock using a process on htcdev.com, but there are conflicting views on this, and some people say a lot of roms wont load. I really hope someone will take a little time out to help me with this please, and hopefully once i gain the know-how, i to may be able to help someone else in my situation.....poor devil lol...........Thanks
For rooting your evo 3d you dont need to downgrade your hboot.
The first thing you need to do is to unlock your bootloader, the easy way, htcdev.com
Then you can install SU, and a custom rom, etc., but there is a problem, you cant install roms that came with custom kernels because you are s-on, and if you want to do s-off you need to downgrade your hboot to 1.49.0007.
There are a way to install a custom kernel if you are s-on, you need to extract it from the rom (boot.img) and run it to you phone with adb.
The only thing you need to do is read more.
This post helped me a lot to downgrade my hboot. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495657
This is for me the best rom for the evo until now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245424
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1541210
neildunne said:
***SORRY, I REALISE I HAVE POSTED IN THE WRONG SECTION, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN Q&A, COULD A MOD PLEASE MOVE IT, SORRY***
***Locked***
SHOOTER_U PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.49.0018
eMMC-boot
oct 3 2011, 15.03.01
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In short, you need to downgrade your HBOOT, get to 1.49.0007,
Use this thread to achieve this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1471246
Ask there, if it's possible.
Then use the revolutionary tool found here http://revolutionary.io/
To use revolutionary, click windows (if that's what your on) then run through the process, there is a walkthrough on one of the posts in the dev thread
(this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535987)
it's pretty easy, make sure you have adb installed, or at the least the ability to use adb even without the full sdk.
After that you will be S-OFF (security off) you can also install a custom recovery using revolutionarys tool aswell, do so, leave a comment to tell them it worked and say thank you, always say thank you to people who help u.
Download a decent rom, if your GSM then get mikrunny, if your CDMA then use something else, or stick with mikrunny, pop it on your sd card then go to recovery and flash it.
To do this, turn off fastboot from within the device, power off, when powering back on, hold vol down first and then power don't let go, navigate the bootloader using vol up and down, use power to select, click recovery, back up, then wipe data / factory reset, wipe cache and dalvic cache and then install your rom.
That's it.
PS: The hardest thing you will have to do is downgrading hboot, i've never had to do this but it doesn't look impossible and IF YOU LOOK!, the walkthrough here looks pretty good so you should be fine.
There are threads to help you with things like adb if it seems a little daunting, if you think that they do, then you need to research a little more before you jump in, the worst thing you can do with android is give your phone to someone else and let them do everything, just so u can reap the rewards, get your hands dirty a little and get used to doing it yourself, majority of us did and were better for it.
Assume that your on your own because you will only get minimal advice from questions, no one is going to do it for you.
Good luck m8, you'll be fine
I was in EXACTLY the same position as you (same phone versions etc). Just follow this: http://appcounter.blogspot.com/2012/02/installing-custom-rom-for-htc-evo-3d.html
Use my script, everything except that is bull**** and takes too long.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495657
if your cid is on the list, you are good to go.
Meet the requierments and go ahead.
Flashmaniac said:
Use my script, everything except that is bull**** and takes too long.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495657
if your cid is on the list, you are good to go.
Meet the requierments and go ahead.
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Doesn't your way invalidate the phone warranty? I.e. no way to put phone back to original state if you need to send it back to HTC?
my-planet said:
Doesn't your way invalidate the phone warranty? I.e. no way to put phone back to original state if you need to send it back to HTC?
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what do you think, does the link you put here two posts before?
That even does not work as described, when u are not on the correct softwareversion. Yes, my way does void the warranty. As every way of rooting does....but if you s-off and run a ruu the **RELOCKED** will be gone I think
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Doesn't your way invalidate the phone warranty? I.e. no way to put phone back to original state if you need to send it back to HTC?
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If you tamper with your phone, using the official method or any of the ways stated here, they will all void your warranty.
My apologies, to the OP i wasn't aware that there was an easier way to get to have s-off etc.
All i know is, the way i wrote will work, if the other way is easier then go with that
Yes, of course all this voids your warranty, but the method I linked to (as far as I understand) would not show RELOCKED when putting back to stock. Which means HTC will honour any warranty claim.
From your guide flashmaniac, the first thing you tell to do is unlock via HTC's method. From what I understand that will show unlocked, and when trying to put back to stock, it will show relocked.
Apologies if I have this wrong, as there is 'too' much information out there, and no clear way of knowing what's wrong/right/possible.
Thanks.
my-planet said:
Yes, of course all this voids your warranty, but the method I linked to (as far as I understand) would not show RELOCKED when putting back to stock. Which means HTC will honour any warranty claim.
From your guide flashmaniac, the first thing you tell to do is unlock via HTC's method. From what I understand that will show unlocked, and when trying to put back to stock, it will show relocked.
Apologies if I have this wrong, as there is 'too' much information out there, and no clear way of knowing what's wrong/right/possible.
Thanks.
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N thats it ...
If you unlock your bootloader the HTCdev way, you will never ever be able to set it to LOCKED without changing the Evos motherboard because this way is a hardware modification ...
But its more secure Anyway Id recommend you to downgrade your HBOOT to .xxx7 by flashing an older firmware, then use Revolutionary to s-off and flashing a rooted ROM will do everything you will ever want!
I also used the HTC Unlock, but I regree doing that ... So please dont do this, because HTC gets your S/N AND your verification, so they´ll always know youve unlocked your bootloader this way...
Apart from that HTC does not charge you if you get a hardware problem because this has nothing to do with unlocking your bootloader ... Do it as you want
River
River99 said:
Anyway Id recommend you to downgrade your HBOOT to .xxx7 by flashing an older firmware, then use Revolutionary to s-off and flashing a rooted ROM will do everything you will ever want!
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Which is exactly what that link describes for you, in a very simple step by step noob way.
my-planet said:
Which is exactly what that link describes for you, in a very simple step by step noob way.
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As I said before, that tutorial won't work if you are not on the correct sw version.
You wanna do hardware modifications using software? That's fun lol.
Yummy ics
Flashmaniac said:
As I said before, that tutorial won't work if you are not on the correct sw version.
You wanna do hardware modifications using software? That's fun lol.
Yummy ics
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Classic Lol.
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always\
Can i say a big thanks to everyone that has offered their help and advice with rooting my device. Sorry i haven't replied earlier but i've been on shifts at work :-( I find the whole process very intimidating, but today i took Flashmaniacs advice and unlocked my Evo using HTCDEV.com, which i must say i found very straighforward lol. Now i think my next step is to work out how to do a backup of my Evo before i go any further, and work out how to flash a rom.........Is that the right order?
I would suggest to order soup first, but it's tasty even without it.
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Sorry for the noob question. Ive read many forums and not found astraight answer. I know the answer is out there, just want to get this thing rooted though. My evo 3d is running software version 2.08.651.2. Everything is entirely sock right now. I want root for wireless tether and overclock.
This software meqns i am running hboot 1.5 doesnt it? If so which methods work for root? Ive found several methods and watched several videos. If i try and choose the wrong method what are the consequences? If i couod post links id link the stuff ive found. Thanks guys is it true that the htc method does not achieve s-off?
The software version and hboot version isn't entirely connected 100%.
To check which hboot version you have, you'll have to remove the battery, put it back in, and then hold "Volume Down" button and then power on the phone (Most phones don't require having to remove the battery, but the EVO apparently does, as i found out the hard way after 20 times trying to get into recovery..)
It'll say something along the lines of:
*** LOCKED ***
SHOOTER_U PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-x.xx.xxxx
Reply with the HBOOT version and i can tell you more. (or someone else can)
If you try and root and S-OFF with the wrong methods, wrong tools, wrong phone etc, you could potentially brick the phone (which, as it sounds, means it'll be just as useful as a brick, since you can't do anything on it.. at all), but that is an absolute worst case scenario, and it will not happen if you do it correctly (which might sound hard, with all the technical mumbo jumbo, but it is actully quite easy).
The officla HTC Method does indeed not achieve S-OFF, so it's not an optimal solution.
Moonbloom said:
The software version and hboot version isn't entirely connected 100%.
To check which hboot version you have, you'll have to remove the battery, put it back in, and then hold "Volume Down" button and then power on the phone (Most phones don't require having to remove the battery, but the EVO apparently does, as i found out the hard way after 20 times trying to get into recovery..)
It'll say something along the lines of:
*** LOCKED ***
SHOOTER_U PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-x.xx.xxxx
Reply with the HBOOT version and i can tell you more. (or someone else can)
If you try and root and S-OFF with the wrong methods, wrong tools, wrong phone etc, you could potentially brick the phone (which, as it sounds, means it'll be just as useful as a brick, since you can't do anything on it.. at all), but that is an absolute worst case scenario, and it will not happen if you do it correctly (which might sound hard, with all the technical mumbo jumbo, but it is actully quite easy).
The officla HTC Method does indeed not achieve S-OFF, so it's not an optimal solution.
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So, do i need s-off? Im kind of a noob, so really advanced functiojs arent really useful yet. Ive read a few threads trying to figure what s-off is exactly, and it sounds like all it does is open a few extra commands over root. Kind of what i understand busybox does in others. I may misunderstand though. If i go ahead with the htc method of root and revolutionary figures out the s-off next week will i still be able to acheive s-off?
This is somewhat unrelated, but if, when i need to repoace an existing file with a new onein say astro, can i simply rename the old one with like a .bbb on the end and not move it? At several poihts in theroot process you are required to replace an existing file with a new one of the same name. Then replace the old one, or delete the added one. Can I just rename the old one, then put the name back and delete the new one to revert?
Indeed my phone is Hboot version 1.5. It reads
Locked
shooter xc ship s-on rL
Hboot-1.50.0000
Emmc-boot
Aug 7 2011, 10:21:40
So with 1.5 my only option is HTC method? With my tab I am able to completely uninstall and unroot as I please. Is the same true here? can someone link me a video of someone dependable doing it the HTC way? if I post my plan for rooting here will someone let me know if I'm off base so I don't brick my phone?
Can someone tell me the deal with cwm? Does it work or not? If its both ways, then what are the conditions under which it fails? Do I need to install cwm and twrp? What should I plan to do if cwm fails to install?
Another noob question. What is pushing a file exactly, and how and why is it done? I really don't want to get half way through this and discover I dont know what in gods name I'm doing.
I think I read on xda somewhere that if you turn of fastboot in the settings you dont have to remove the battery.
That's a lot of questions, a lot of this info can be found in the wikis and guides in the development section, but I can probably answer a few.
S-on is the encrypted bootloader, you need a special signature to he able to flash any ROMs or anything else to the system. Only HTC has the keys. So s-off allows you to install a custom recovery or anything else that can rewrite to the system.
From what I read so far HTC so called unlocked is not s-off like we are used to. People are having trouble flashing recoveries and kernels to their phones. I haven't payed much attention to the HTC method cause I used the unrevoked method.
You don't need s-off to flash ROMs but I guess if you want complete control over your phone (like the ability to flash bootloaders and various recoveries) you need to be s-off.
If you want to replace a file in the system name the old file extention .bak and then drop the new file in. Reboot to complete the changes. To revert, delete the modified file and just rename and take off the .bak extension.
As of now yes your only method of unlocking is using the HTC method with the 1.50 bootloader. CWM works fine and I think its the only compatible recovery with the 1.50 BL, TWRP is more polished and has a few added functions. I don't know when unrevoked will crack 1.5. Eventually they will.
If you don't know what in gods name your doing, don't mess with it until you do or understand the directions. Go though the general and q&a because I know there are already threads discussing setbacks and situations that your asking about.
Hope this helps.
One other thing to note is you need a different than stock kernal to overclock
Drewmungus said:
One other thing to note is you need a different than stock kernal to overclock
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The problem is HTC's unlock method DOES NOT allow you to flash a kernel! I repeat, it DOES NOT allow you to flash a kernel. I would highly suggest waiting for AlphaRevX and Unrevoked to implement the latest HBOOT to be supported in their tool. It is being worked on and when it is done it will give 100% s-off and unlock nand write protection(or eMMC in our case). It will allow you to flash kernels, radios and whatever else your heart desires. I suggest holding off until Revolutionary is updated. They will then tell you if you need to do HTC's method before theirs or not. If you use HTC's method and then Revolutionary is updated and you want full unlock, there is no way to know if you are screwed or not. We really need a sticky thread describing the difference between the 2 unlock methods and the benefits of each one. There are tons of posts in Q&A and General about 'I have HBOOT 1.50, can I overclock my phone?'...The answer is NO, because you have to be able to flash custom kernels to overclock and HTC is not going to allow that to happen. If they did they would have tons of returned devices from people screwing up their phones from overclocking and flashing radios and what not. It really makes sense to me why HTC didn't fully unlock the phone, but if you wait for the Revolutionary tool to be updated, it will. By then we may even have the latest source code for HTC's 2.3.4 kernel and will have custom kernels to play with. Right now there is no overclockable kernels for the latest update from HTC because they haven't released the kernel source yet.
thats confirmed, no kernel. and dont try. screws things up a little. reflashed. no change. you think if i flash the stock kernel it would let me? i think probably not. rom was doing fine till i attempted kernel though. synergy. its nice. lot nicer with s-off im sure.
EDIT: UPDATE .... i managed to get the phone rebooted .... held the force reboot buttons for literally over a min in desperation.... not i need to fully unroot and start from scratch but am having trouble with that still.... can anyone help me either (A) get s-off ... or (B) get it so that i am completely unrooted so i can start over from scratch to get s-off????
Ok folks, i am officially stuck.... its been quite awhile since i have really asked for help on here but i am stuck in a really bad way!!!
Here is how i got to where i am
Just bought my brand new EVO LTE today and went to root it using "[ROOT] RegawMOD EVO 4G LTE Rooter | Updated 06.13.12" from this section!
everything seemed to work great and it said everything rooted properly.... I love Clockwork mod recovery so i then flashed that and it worked properly to or so i thought! so i went to create an origional Nand but it would not work, so i decided to flash TWRP back instead and do that way. when going into the bootloader it said "Tampered" as expected, but it still said S-on so obviously not a proper and correct root.
So i ran RegaMOD again as it said in the instructions, but it would never get passed the HTCdev part, it would just say "sucessfully logged out" and sit there forever and do nothing. So after a few tries of that i decided to unroot and start over from scratch. I could not find an unroot method for RegaMOD so i then went to the other root method "How to Root HTC Evo 4G LTE! [Windows/Mac/Linux] - by Zedomax" in this section and saw it had an unroot method which i followed to the letter! did full unroot through SuperSU and then downloaded the stock RUU from that section for my phone with the proper version number.
everything seemed to be running fine went to the black "HTC" screen and everything was going smoothly.... then the update failed and my phone stayed on the black HTC screen. my computer prompted me to recover which i could not really do as you can't pull the battery on this phone. So i then tried to update the RUU again except this time it did not list a current software version, only the one i was updating too.... it failed again 2 more times!!
when plugged into the computer my phone displays the black "HTC" screen
when plugged into the charger it displays the following screen info (bootloader look)
*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
JEWEL PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.12.0000
RADIO-1.02.12.0427
OpenDSP-v25.1.0.32.0405
eMMC-boot
Apr 26 2012,19:54:01
FASTBOOT AO <---- MIGHT BE FASTBOOT AC HARD TO TELL
Update Fail!
when un-plugged it says almost the same thing
*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
JEWEL PUT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.12.0000
RADIO-1.02.12.0427
OpenDSP-v25.1.0.32.0405
eMMC-boot
Apr 26 2012,19:54:01
FASTBOOT <---- THIS IS THE ONLY CHANGE
Update Fail!
no buttons do anything at all, in any combination or holding pattern
PLEASE HELP ME!!!!! THANKS TO ALL IN ADVANCE!!!
just one thing, s-on or s-ff has nothing to do with root
did you relock your bootloader before running the RUU?
And now we see what happens when we blindly click stuff without an understanding of what we're doing. I hate to be a douche (and I'm not usually) but this is EXACTLY the kind of thing you should NOT do with a brand new phone without intensive study. While the one-click root methods are convenient as hell, their major shortcoming is that they don't allow people to learn what they're DOING when they click that batch file...which leads to problems like yours.
As mentioned above, you need to relock your bootloader before running the RUU.
Also as mentioned s-off and root are completely different...and frankly you don't need s-off with HTC's unlock anymore.
Get your phone back to the bootloader, plugged in via USB to your computer.
Install adb (you should already have it, I hope) and type fastboot oem lock from a dos prompt (command prompt).
That relocks your bootloader. reboot into bootloader and you should see 'relocked'.
THEN run the RUU and start over....and this time please read and understand what you're doing rather than just blindly doing the 'cool root thing'.
no, i did not re-lock the boot loader.... didnt know you needed to, not used to that on the OG EVO... how do you go about redoing that? I always thought S-OFF was an important part of root..... the main reason i looked and noticed it was since i flashed clockworkmod recovery and wanted to go back to TWRP i read on their page that "You must be S-OFF or have taken HTC's unlock to use a recovery on your device!" I guess that since i used HTC unlock i could flash, but either way, should i need to go back to stock for any reason, could you please tell me the proper steps?
Thanks a million!!!
smw6180 said:
And now we see what happens when we blindly click stuff without an understanding of what we're doing. I hate to be a douche (and I'm not usually) but this is EXACTLY the kind of thing you should NOT do with a brand new phone without intensive study. While the one-click root methods are convenient as hell, their major shortcoming is that they don't allow people to learn what they're DOING when they click that batch file...which leads to problems like yours.
As mentioned above, you need to relock your bootloader before running the RUU.
Also as mentioned s-off and root are completely different...and frankly you don't need s-off with HTC's unlock anymore.
Get your phone back to the bootloader, plugged in via USB to your computer.
Install adb (you should already have it, I hope) and type fastboot oem lock from a dos prompt (command prompt).
That relocks your bootloader. reboot into bootloader and you should see 'relocked'.
THEN run the RUU and start over....and this time please read and understand what you're doing rather than just blindly doing the 'cool root thing'.
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Sorry I just got excited, I have run root on my last 2 phones (much more research on those) and just kinda fell into a super late night lazy not thinking groove... please dont be offended, the reason a rarely dont ask for help is i usually have not needed it.... no need to get hostile.... thankyou for the responce
smw6180 said:
And now we see what happens when we blindly click stuff without an understanding of what we're doing. I hate to be a douche (and I'm not usually) but this is EXACTLY the kind of thing you should NOT do with a brand new phone without intensive study. While the one-click root methods are convenient as hell, their major shortcoming is that they don't allow people to learn what they're DOING when they click that batch file...which leads to problems like yours.
As mentioned above, you need to relock your bootloader before running the RUU.
Also as mentioned s-off and root are completely different...and frankly you don't need s-off with HTC's unlock anymore.
Get your phone back to the bootloader, plugged in via USB to your computer.
Install adb (you should already have it, I hope) and type fastboot oem lock from a dos prompt (command prompt).
That relocks your bootloader. reboot into bootloader and you should see 'relocked'.
THEN run the RUU and start over....and this time please read and understand what you're doing rather than just blindly doing the 'cool root thing'.
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shootin4aces said:
Sorry I just got excited, I have run root on my last 2 phones (much more research on those) and just kinda fell into a super late night lazy not thinking groove... please dont be offended, the reason a rarely dont ask for help is i usually have not needed it.... no need to get hostile.... thankyou for the responce
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Wasn't being hostile and I'm not offended. It's just there are entirely too many people who haven't been paying attention to what they're doing and get upset about it when it all blows up in their face.
And for the record every phone is different. I've rooted my last 4 Android phones, 3 evo's and the hero, and root was different on each one, with different potential problems. Being excited is great. But you need to take the time to learn what you're doing, first.
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no, i did not re-lock the boot loader.... didnt know you needed to, not used to that on the OG EVO... how do you go about redoing that? I always thought S-OFF was an important part of root..... the main reason i looked and noticed it was since i flashed clockworkmod recovery and wanted to go back to TWRP i read on their page that "You must be S-OFF or have taken HTC's unlock to use a recovery on your device!" I guess that since i used HTC unlock i could flash, but either way, should i need to go back to stock for any reason, could you please tell me the proper steps?
Thanks a million!!!
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read the post above yours he did tell you how to do it..lol
Oh and before I forget: Don't use CWM. Unless they've fixed it in the last couple of days it breaks your /misc partition, which is quite probably what caused your issues in the first place.
Use TWRP. After you have root/unlocked you can download goomanager from the Play Store...it will install it for you.
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Wasn't being hostile and I'm not offended. It's just there are entirely too many people who haven't been paying attention to what they're doing and get upset about it when it all blows up in their face.
And for the record every phone is different. I've rooted my last 4 Android phones, 3 evo's and the hero, and root was different on each one, with different potential problems. Being excited is great. But you need to take the time to learn what you're doing, first.
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+1 and wrong section
This is the method I used on my 4lte without a problem. But you should read entire post before attempting cause it flashes TWRP recovery automatically along with SU. Clockwork still is buggy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26955832
from my "Beach Watcher" 4LTE
thankyou
all problems have been fixed, thankyou everyone for all your help
again, sry for posting in the wrong forum with this issue, and i am sorry if i came off as a noob! I'm really not, just completely jumped the gun and am very very tired as i have been up for almost 36 hours now
thankyou again for all the help, and as i normally do, i will perform all my research before my next venture.... a lot has changed between this phone and my last one that i rooted and modded, i will be more prepared in the future!
Selders, you're here now?! Good to see ya here
sent from a shining jewel 4g LTE
I have an HTC EVO 3D That I purchased yesterday, and It's been flashed to Boost Mobile (A company owned and operated by Sprint) Boost is a CDMA service. I am interested in rooting my device, but when I tried this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218193 I was stopped because my HBOOT isn't supported. Baffled, I went searching the forums and found this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695 unfortunately, I'm not sure if it's safe to proceed with this procedure, because I wasn't there when my phone was flashed, and I don't know if HTC Dev was used. Furthermore, I don;t know if I have S-On of S-OFF, because I didn't flash my phone. Also, it has come to my understanding that linux is required for that method of HBOOT downgrade. Is there any way I can avoid that? It's kind of a lot of trouble.
You can check if you're s-on or s-off by looking at the top of the hboot screen. Pull the batt, put it back in, hold vol down + power.
If you don't have s-off, the downgrade is easy, linux is easy. After the downgrade you have to use revolutionary.io to achieve s-off and it'll likely screw up your boost flash. I'll edit with a thread link for prepping to downgrade with a carrier flashed phone.
Edit... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646815
wikdNoob said:
You can check if you're s-on or s-off by looking at the top of the hboot screen. Pull the batt, put it back in, hold vol down + power.
If you don't have s-off, the downgrade is easy, linux is easy. After the downgrade you have to use revolutionary.io to achieve s-off and it'll likely screw up your boost flash. I'll edit with a thread link for prepping to downgrade with a carrier flashed phone.
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Hboot says I have S-ON. By following the steps in that link you'll give, will I be able to restore my flash without losing MMS and 3G, etc.?
I'm really not sure, I've never flashed a phone. If you don't mind me asking, why do you want s-off? It's nice to have because it makes flashing roms easier but its not required to flash roms, and if your not sure you can flash your phone back, its probably not worth the risk.
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I'm really not sure, I've never flashed a phone. If you don't mind me asking, why do you want s-off? It's nice to have because it makes flashing roms easier but its not required to flash roms, and if your not sure you can flash your phone back, its probably not worth the risk.
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Well the whole idea is that i need to downgrade HBOOT in order to root, and I was under the impression that to downgrade Hboot i needed to have S-OFF.
No, you just need to unlock at htcdev. Then you can root, give me a sec and ill give you another link. Once you think you can flash your phone to boost, I suggest getting s-off. Just less issues with s-off flashing.
Edit... A lot of guides out there, check the roll up sticky thread. This one will probably work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
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No, you just need to unlock at htcdev. Then you can root, give me a sec and ill give you another link. Once you think you can flash your phone to boost, I suggest getting s-off. Just less issues with s-off flashing.
Edit... A lot of guides out there, check the roll up sticky thread. This one will probably work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
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THank man, i wish i could click thanks a thousand times. I'll try this method and see what i get.
Any time.. btw, you might be able to do the wire trick to get s-off without messing up the flash. It's in the dev section, called something like junoputabear s-off. Ask in that thread, maybe someone will know.
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Any time.. btw, you might be able to do the wire trick to get s-off without messing up the flash. It's in the dev section, called something like junoputabear s-off. Ask in that thread, maybe someone will know.
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I got root, and recovery but for some reason the fastboot method wher you extrtact the boot.img and use fastboot to load recovery doesn't work for ICS roms, they bootloop. I found a working Gingerbread rom and I like it. Only issue is i wanted an ICS app. Btw, which gapps should I flash for 2.3.4?
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I got root, and recovery but for some reason the fastboot method wher you extrtact the boot.img and use fastboot to load recovery doesn't work for ICS roms, they bootloop. I found a working Gingerbread rom and I like it. Only issue is i wanted an ICS app.
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From what I remember, if you boot a recovery from fastboot (fastboot boot recovery.img), you wouldn't need to extract any boot image. When you boot a recovery from fastboot, you'll be able to write to the boot partition, so all you need to do is flash the rom and it should work. With that said, I've read a lot of times that flashing ics roms with s-on will cause bootloops. I've never seen that personally, I was s-off before ics came along.
Btw, which gapps should I flash for 2.3.4?
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You probably know this but ill say it just incase. You only flash gapps on aosp roms. I think all the ics gapps say ics in the name, and most of the time gapps for any rom are linked in the same thread as the rom.
Look at your pm in a little bit. I'm gonna send you some stuff that'll help you figure out how to correctly flash a phone so that you can s-off without worry. I can't really post it here.
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Hey guys....
I feel really stupid about this entire thing but I've finally decided to post here because I'm getting desperate.
The guide in question (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563342) is fairly striaghtforward. Except the links are really scattered, at least for me. I'm on HBOOT 1.58, and I've had numerous problems even getting to the point where my phone is relocked (it's currently HTC unlocked because I use an MIUI port ROM) successfully. I would bring my problems to that thread, but I don't have 10 posts, which is a questionable rule but w/e.
Anyway, here's my problem. First, I'll tell you what I've done so far, and the problem I've come across both times.
1. Place a "2.89 RUU" or whatever onto my SD card and call it PG86IMG. This is where most of my confusion is. OP of that thread hasn't yet covered what the difference between 2.17 and 2.89 is, but my understand is that 2.17 corresponds with HBOOT 1.5 and 2.89 to 1.58. Honestly, all these numbers piss me off when there's little to no documentation of what the hell they even mean. This file is about 448 MB and my understanding was that it was a stock RUU and would make it so I could access my phone while it was still locked, which you can't do with a 3rd party ROM like the one I usually use.
2. Lock my phone's bootloader. I just did fastboot oem lock in Windows and it rebooted to *** RELOCKED *** *** Security Warning ***. Apparently this is normal, and now I need to flash said RUU.
3. Flash the RUU. This took an EXTREMELY long time, and it went through Loading PG86IMG.zip.. then to some other stage that took much less time to complete. After that it just sits in the bootloader.
Here's my concern... I can't access my SD card. Why? Because I can't even get out of the bootloader or fastboot. All it does is sit here, and since I can't remove the update file PG86IMG.zip, if I try to enter recovery (which I'm sure won't work anyway) it will try to start loading that file again. I don't really know what step I missed here, but it's probably because I'm fairly clueless when it comes to this stuff, lol.
So, I did this once, and then I waited about 6 hours for HTCdev's site to stop crashing so I could unlock my phone again. Made it through a school day with my old ROM and stuff, deleted the update files so they wouldn't run again, etc. etc.
Now, I'm doing it again today with this new 2.89 RUU or whatever and the same exact problem is happening. So now I'm at a stage where my phone is entirely useless until HTCdev.com starts actually sending e-mails. I swear, these crashes on HTCdev's part could not be more untimely.
So basically, what am I doing wrong with relocking my phone? OP implies that I should be able to start my phone (not the bootloader, but actually start it) because they ask after you've supposedly re-locked the bootloader for you to move a new PG86IMG.zip file onto your SD card, which I'm unable to do because my phone can't get out of fastboot/bootloader screen. That's the next step, which is actually doing the downgrading.
And yes, I know that it's possible for HBOOT 1.58 because someone else already did it (last post in the thread).
At this point, I don't really care when I get it to work, man. This is proving to be such a gigantic pain in the ass just to install a new Jelly Bean ROM. I JUST WANT JELLY BEAN!
If anyone can send a noob in the right direction, that'd be great. I have all week and all weekend, but I've run out of time to waste on this for today. I guess most of what I need is to know what files I'm supposed to be downloading, because I have a feeling that's most of what I'm getting wrong.
I hope I've explained my problem well enough, and thanks a ton to anyone who just suffered through reading my essay and can offer help. I'll be sending this to OP of the guide as a PM so hopefully if none of you guys can help they can.
Thanks a ton everyone, I just want to get Jelly Bean on my phone and stop dealing with MIUI :laugh:
Update: Found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495358. I believe this will probably help me out a lot! Wish I would've seen it sooner.
TL;DR: Need better explanation of how to relock 1.58 hboot bootloader with a stock rom, and where to find the rom.
Honestly, your post was tl;dr for me, but I think you would be best served to follow ramjet's guide to s-off. It's really the easiest and includes everything you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889438
coal686 said:
Honestly, your post was tl;dr for me, but I think you would be best served to follow ramjet's guide to s-off. It's really the easiest and includes everything you need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889438
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Lol. I'm not surprised. I tend to pour my heart out on forums when I get to the point of desperation.
Gonna be honest with you, zero interest in the wire tap method. Zero. Not trying it. Not even going to think about it. Sorry, I appreciate the idea but honestly screw that.
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Lol. I'm not surprised. I tend to pour my heart out on forums when I get to the point of desperation.
Gonna be honest with you, zero interest in the wire tap method. Zero. Not trying it. Not even going to think about it. Sorry, I appreciate the idea but honestly screw that.
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Then, honestly, you are EXTREMELY limited as to what you can do. S-Off is your best bet. Good Luck.
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Then, honestly, you are EXTREMELY limited as to what you can do. S-Off is your best bet. Good Luck.
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I don't understand how that limits me at all. I just want to use the downgrade method to hboot 1.4 and s-off. I never had any intention of staying on hboot 1.5, and certainly not hboot 1.58.
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I don't understand how that limits me at all. I just want to use the downgrade method to hboot 1.4 and s-off. I never had any intention of staying on hboot 1.5, and certainly not hboot 1.58.
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From my understanding, the downgrade method works with hboot 1.58, but you have to brick your phone twice. But it really is the more challenging method so you may want to reconsider your stance on the wire trick. I've yet to hear of an unhappy customer who followed ramjet's guide.
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From my understanding, the downgrade method works with hboot 1.58, but you have to brick your phone twice. But it really is the more challenging method so you may want to reconsider your stance on the wire trick. I've yet to hear of an unhappy customer who followed ramjet's guide.
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I'm not sure.
However, this thread can be closed because I *finally* got the RUU to work properly! I was doing things in the wrong order, and not using the .exe was a silly idea. It's much easier that way. Currently have stock ROM running on a locked 1.58 hboot. Now I can continue!
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I'm not sure.
However, this thread can be closed because I *finally* got the RUU to work properly! I was doing things in the wrong order, and not using the .exe was a silly idea. It's much easier that way. Currently have stock ROM running on a locked 1.58 hboot. Now I can continue!
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Good! :thumbup:
Keep posting questions, we'll do our best to help.
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Good! :thumbup:
Keep posting questions, we'll do our best to help.
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LOLJK. I swear, at this point HTC must be trolling me. It's loaded up now. Thanks for trying to help everyone! I can't wait to get Jelly Bean on here soon!
Doubt this will help, but did you remove the PG86IMG.zip from your sd card? Also, did you run the ruu.exe while in bootloader (it will say fastboot usb in red). I'm sort of grasping at straws since the ruu usually works without issue when using the exe.
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Doubt this will help, but did you remove the PG86IMG.zip from your sd card? Also, did you run the ruu.exe while in bootloader (it will say fastboot usb in red). I'm sort of grasping at straws since the ruu usually works without issue when using the exe.
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I have a feeling you didn't see my update It magically decided to work. Here comes double bricking action... this should be (un)fun D:
i am on hboot 1.58 and used HTC Unlock and wire trick to get s-off. i was about to flash a JB Rom but realized that it requires hboot to be lower than 1.58. so all i do is pick the first hboot 1.40 from Here, put it in the root of SD, boot up the phone in recovery and flash that PG86IMG.zip.
once its done ill swap the SD with another one which would have the ROM i want to install, then boot again in recovery and wipe Dalvik+cache, and then flash ROM?
am i doing it right?
thank you.
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i am on hboot 1.58 and used HTC Unlock and wire trick to get s-off. i was about to flash a JB Rom but realized that it requires hboot to be lower than 1.58. so all i do is pick the first hboot 1.40 from Here, put it in the root of SD, boot up the phone in recovery and flash that PG86IMG.zip.
once its done ill swap the SD with another one which would have the ROM i want to install, then boot again in recovery and wipe Dalvik+cache, and then flash ROM?
am i doing it right?
thank you.
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No, do it from the bootloader
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fdavila17 said:
No, do it from the bootloader
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I have the exact situation with my wife's phone? I want to install Pacman on her phone which is still stock. Is all I have to do what chubaan said?
ruckstande said:
I have the exact situation with my wife's phone? I want to install Pacman on her phone which is still stock. Is all I have to do what chubaan said?
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Just download the hboot you want, 1.50 or below to get PACMAN to.boot, rename it as PG86IMG.zip place it on the root of your sd card, go to.the bootloader and select yes to apply update , and your done
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Thank you.. that's what I did. And after you're done make sure to wipe dalvik and cache from recovery, at least in my case I had to. And then flash the rom. And that's it..
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So i looked for an answer to this, but i could not find it, so i figured i would ask. I know that rooting and s-off do not void your warranty (well, the technically do, but you can get rid of them and get your warrant back) but what about HTC dev unlock? i know it claims it does, but is there any way to get your warranty back with HTC if you dev unlock? as a separate question, what does the htc dev unlock warranty void exactly? i heard that it only voids software related issues (brick), but if you have hardware related issues (broken screen, ect) htc will still fix it. is this true? and last question, will i get in trouble with sprint for unlocking with dev unlock? i dont think i would if i go to the sprint store with it completely stock just unlocked, but they can be really picky. i do not have much experience with this stuff, so i greatly appreciate any help you can give. thanks!
Well you can relock your bootloader through adb but it will no longer say *locked* but instead say *Relocked* Sprint will still accept it for warranty repairs but HTC will not.
Hope that answered your question.
Htc will honor the warranty of an unlocked phone if its a clear cut defect but most of the time it is not.
that is not what i wanted to hear. i had to get a new phone and it came with hboot 1.19. so i cant get s-off and i am not going to void my warranty. i guess i have to downgrade to 1.12. thanks for the replies, that does answer my question. i am just not happy to hear i have to downgrade the hboot. that does not look like its going to be an easy/fun process...
and i just realized that to downgrade you still have to unlock it first....
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and i just realized that to downgrade you still have to unlock it first....
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DirtyRacun does not require you to be unlocked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964309
bigdaddy619 said:
DirtyRacun does not require you to be unlocked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964309
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you just made my day. im not even joking. i could have swore i read that you had to be unlocked for that. but i was wrong! thank you a million times for making me re-read that!!! i cant even portray my happiness right now!
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you just made my day. im not even joking. i could have swore i read that you had to be unlocked for that. but i was wrong! thank you a million times for making me re-read that!!! i cant even portray my happiness right now!
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Welcome glad I could help
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Welcome glad I could help
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actually, i read it closer and i was correct. dev unlocking is part of the process. the text below is taken from the dirtyracun unlimited.io site.
"11.HTC Dev Unlock your device:
Go to www.htcdev.com and choose "Unlock Bootloader"
Choose your device or "All Other Supported Models"
Open cmd from your unzipped DirtyRacun files
SKIP AHEAD to Step 8 on HTC Dev Instructions. DO NOT INSTALL ANY SOFTWARE!
Complete Steps 8 - Completion on Htc Dev site
Save your Unlock_code.bin file from your email to the DirtyRacun folder
Type the following in the cmd prompt:
fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin
Select Yes on your phone when prompted"
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actually, i read it closer and i was correct. dev unlocking is part of the process. the text below is taken from the dirtyracun unlimited.io site.
"11.HTC Dev Unlock your device:
Go to www.htcdev.com and choose "Unlock Bootloader"
Choose your device or "All Other Supported Models"
Open cmd from your unzipped DirtyRacun files
SKIP AHEAD to Step 8 on HTC Dev Instructions. DO NOT INSTALL ANY SOFTWARE!
Complete Steps 8 - Completion on Htc Dev site
Save your Unlock_code.bin file from your email to the DirtyRacun folder
Type the following in the cmd prompt:
fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin
Select Yes on your phone when prompted"
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Sorry I could have sworn the OP stated you don't have to be unlocked. That being said there are ways to modify the look of your bootloader to appear stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739314
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1738462
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Sorry I could have sworn the OP stated you don't have to be unlocked. That being said there are ways to modify the look of your bootloader to appear stock
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its fine. yeah, that mislead me too. it says you dont have to be because part of the process is unlocking yes, there are ways to mod it to look stock, but until i find a definite way to get my warranty back, i guess im going to stick to a completely stock phone. that is a very hard and sad thing for me to say, but i cannot risk my warranty. it just isnt worth that to me. anyway, thanks for the help. i do appreciate it.
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its fine. yeah, that mislead me too. it says you dont have to be because part of the process is unlocking yes, there are ways to mod it to look stock, but until i find a definite way to get my warranty back, i guess im going to stick to a completely stock phone. that is a very hard and sad thing for me to say, but i cannot risk my warranty. it just isnt worth that to me. anyway, thanks for the help. i do appreciate it.
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Well from what I have seen in these forums is if you take your phone to Sprint or BestBuy they most times don't care if your rooted or unlocked. You most likely won't be dealing with HTC directly. My .02 good luck with whatever you decide
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Well from what I have seen in these forums is if you take your phone to Sprint or BestBuy they most times don't care if your rooted or unlocked. You most likely won't be dealing with HTC directly. My .02 good luck with whatever you decide
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yeah i know, its just that i am not supposed to root or anything according to my parents so if they find out, i am in a bunch of trouble. so if my warranty is void with htc, its going to be hard to explain to them that i cant send my phone to htc when it breaks. i do, however, have the TEP warranty with sprint, i just dont think i want to risk it. but a guy over on the dirtyracun forum said that you can relock so that htc cant tell that you unlocked. do you have any information on this? if you did i would greatly appreciate it, but if not then its not a big deal.
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yeah i know, its just that i am not supposed to root or anything according to my parents so if they find out, i am in a bunch of trouble. so if my warranty is void with htc, its going to be hard to explain to them that i cant send my phone to htc when it breaks. i do, however, have the TEP warranty with sprint, i just dont think i want to risk it. but a guy over on the dirtyracun forum said that you can relock so that htc cant tell that you unlocked. do you have any information on this? if you did i would greatly appreciate it, but if not then its not a big deal.
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S-ON after S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1744700
Not sure if it will work on the new DirtyRacun method you could PM the OP and ask if it will work or if he's going to update his method
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S-ON after S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1744700
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but wouldnt the bootloader still say relocked though?
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but wouldnt the bootloader still say relocked though?
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This guide will show you EXACTLY how to go from S-OFF to S-ON again. Not only that,
but it will be like you just got your phone brand new from Sprint again, ***LOCKED*** and S-ON.
This sure looks like a lot of steps, but it's not really. I've just detailed everything out
so there is no confusion.
And also download the RegawMOD S-ON Writer Utility
If the RegawMOD S-ON Writer Utility runs all the way through without errors, you are now fully stock! Congrats!
You now have S-ON and ***LOCKED*** on your bootloader and there is no way to prove that it wasn't!
Copied from that thread.
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This guide will show you EXACTLY how to go from S-OFF to S-ON again. Not only that,
but it will be like you just got your phone brand new from Sprint again, ***LOCKED*** and S-ON.
This sure looks like a lot of steps, but it's not really. I've just detailed everything out
so there is no confusion.
Copied from that thread.
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oh wow. that is awesome. i am pretty sure that i am going to run the dirtyracun tomorrow then. possibly even right now. thank you! i had to run that since i had to get a new phone when my last one broke. it worked fine. i just didnt know that it would make it look locked, too! but is it really locking it, or is it just making it look locked?
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oh wow. that is awesome. i am pretty sure that i am going to run the dirtyracun tomorrow then. possibly even right now. thank you! i had to run that since i had to get a new phone when my last one broke. it worked fine. i just didnt know that it would make it look locked, too! but is it really locking it, or is it just making it look locked?
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It looks to me like it is in fact locking it and instead of saying relocked it will say locked when you do the whole process
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It looks to me like it is in fact locking it and instead of saying relocked it will say locked when you do the whole process
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thats what it looks like to me as well, but i am going to ask regaw_leinad just to be sure. i will report back with the answer.
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thats what it looks like to me as well, but i am going to ask regaw_leinad just to be sure. i will report back with the answer.
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Cool good luck