Just thought I'd report this as I've not come across any information on the subject.
This past week I replaced the stock 8GB (class 3 I think) SD Card that came preinstalled in my X2 with a 16GB class 10 SD Card. I have made no other changes or modifications. I'm running CM7 and had around 3GB's free on the 8GB Card.
I immediately noted that the couple of graphics intensive games i play (ShadowGun & Modern Combat 3) loaded nearly twice as fast and where the audio would skip at times before with a few lags here and there it doesn't now. Overall the game play is much smoother with no lags at all.
My benchmark scores in Quadrent have gone from averaging around 2850 to averaging around 3200. Smartbench 2012 has shown a consistent increase as well all but far less. Overall the phone seriously seems snapper, smoother.
And lastly i would like to say that the graphics appear to me to be rendering better particularly as regards curved lines...and yes I know this is a very unscientific observation on my part.
In closing i know most of us spend a great deal of time tweaking and testing different mods trying to squeeze even a few percentage points of extra performance out of our phones. Well here seems to be a way to get an extra 10-15% or so by simply upgrading the SD Card.
Oh...the card I got is made by Team Group, Inc purchased from Newegg for under 20 bucks, free shipping.
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I upgraded to 32gb class10 myself. Was warned that it was not supported and would give me errors. So far the only problems I have had are.
1 when using with card reader make sure it is sdhc compatible our else it will corrupt card when it can't read it.
2 when I was on CM7 using USB it gave me some errors but not sure if that was the card or CM7.
So basically when I back it up I just shut my phone off and back it up using a sdhc compatible reader.
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The original SD card was class 4. Just so you know.
I too noticed a major speedup when replacing the stock 8GB Class 4 card with a 32GB Class 10 Card from Lexar. I have had no issues with the card at all except that CM7 seemed to swap the cards but did not setup the sdcard-ext properly. I have run no benchmarks but in day to day use it was an improvement. Then installing CM7 made it even better.
Leland
Class 10 32gb is not supported? Where does it say this? I upgraded without any issues at all. Even Verizon's page states it is supported:
https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c...etail&selectedPhoneId=5658&deviceCategoryId=1
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Memory / Processor
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8GB internal memory (actual formatted capacity is less)
8GB preinstalled microSD card
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So does Motorola's product page:
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...ones/ci.DROID-X2-by-MOTOROLA-US-EN.alt#anchor
I've always understood the x2 can support a 32GB SD card. I went with a 16GB purely for financial reasons. I put the information up regarding the performance increase of my phone simply because in all my searching the Android forums for tips to get the most out of my x2, upgrading the SD card was never mentioned. I really am blown away at the effect simply upgrading the SD card has had.
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Class 10 32gb is not supported? Where does it say this?
I have heard it's not the 32GB it's the class 10 that's not supported. I have not had any issues myself either except when hooking to PC but one was my USB card reader was not sdhc compatible, the other was CM7 using USB cable to transfer but have had problems with stock card also so think it's more of CM7 thing their. As far as only using it for phone have had no issues.
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My card
Hell I pulled the 16gig out of my og droid. I may be doing myself a disservice as it could be slowing me down. May consider upgrading later...
I just want to know who told tshelby73 that class 10 is not supported....
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I just want to know who told tshelby73 that class 10 is not supported....
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Can't remember, it's been awhile. I've had this card for months no problem except the ones I mentioned. the ones I mentioned are when hooking to PC. As far as phone goes never had a problem.
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Kinda off topic...
Just to give every1 a heads up...walmart online has the wintec 32gb pro class 10 cards on sale for $29.99. It's a great time to upgrade!!
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Taking delivery of my phone soon.
What's the latest on microSD cards?
Are 32GB worth it? Do they work?
Any particular minimum Class I should get, even if I have to get 16GB?
Thanks
M
Mus said:
Taking delivery of my phone soon.
What's the latest on microSD cards?
Are 32GB worth it? Do they work?
Any particular minimum Class I should get, even if I have to get 16GB?
Thanks
M
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am using class 6 works fine.
I use an 8Gb, class 4 without any issues. Resco is installed on the card.
Although if your going to flash a ROM from a micro SD card use one < 8Gb.
Thanks,
Al
From my experience, it's not the class or size that matters. It's the make. (Obviously a smaller card with a higher class will have faster r/w speeds, but that's not usually a noticeable issue.)
I never buy any SD cards now that are not SanDisk, and I can't remember the last time I had one that didn't work.
Some brands seem to get a lot of complaints.
The class wouldn't really matter if you're just using it to store data/apps.
I use a Nokia N900 and run Android off the SD card. A higher class gives a better speed when running an O/S off of one. But using one to store data/apps wouldn't give a noticable advantage of one class than another.
Obviously the size does matter but depends on what you'll use it for.
Plus for flashing use < 8Gb.
Thanks,
Al
PS. I agree with the brands. I don't buy cheap non-branded ones. Although I've never had an issue with any of the 'cheap' ones.
The size of the card depends on your needs. If you cram a lot of stuff in there or apps, then aim for 16gb or 32gb.
You can find 32gb on amazon from $70 up (sandisk, kingston, dane elec -- those are deem legit 32gb cards) and most of them should give real class 4 performance (even when they're listed as class 2 like sandisk).
For me I like San Disk,but I want to test Toshiba 16GB Class4.The seller told me that Toshiba quality is good also and I decided to buy it.
Never had any problem with file transfer and running android on SD card.
I've used it 4 months now.So far so good.
I use a kingston 8gb class 4.. Never had any issues with performance
Thanks for all the replies guys.
I'll probably run Android off the card initially with the standard WM 6.5 tweaked. Maybe put some SatNav on there too.
As for Apps depends what I come across. For WM I have an old large build of offline Wikipedia and some dictionaries etc.
Ta
I had my 8GB SanDisk in my G1 for 2 years, then my HD2 for about 8 months, then randomly one day it stopped working.
If I plugged it in, all of my content appeared on the phone such as pictures. Then after about 30 seconds it would freeze, and then the phone would say no SD card is inserted. I managed to copy all of my pictures across on the PC luckily before it froze.
Granted it was old - but they do fail after a while.
Who makes this piece of junk? the single best improvement I've made to this phone to date was throwing that craptastic card in a garbage can in a hotel and replacing it with just a run of the mill class 4 sandisk 8gb (got it really cheap)
what gives?
I was having random reboots after installing eclipse .5 (ran my own hacked up version of p3droids preroot GB till then) and figured since the sd mount points changed and I was running all the same scripts and whatnot, It was the AOSP camera that sold me on eclipse .5 'cause the blur camera's interface is TERRIBLE
as soon as I replaced the SD card, it fixed ALL my problems, and I imaged the card from my old one, so it wasn't anything that was actually on the card (i made an image because i tried formatting the stocker first)
Cheapxj said:
Who makes this piece of junk? the single best improvement I've made to this phone to date was throwing that craptastic card in a garbage can in a hotel and replacing it with just a run of the mill class 4 sandisk 8gb (got it really cheap)
what gives?
I was having random reboots after installing eclipse .5 (ran my own hacked up version of p3droids preroot GB till then) and figured since the sd mount points changed and I was running all the same scripts and whatnot, It was the AOSP camera that sold me on eclipse .5 'cause the blur camera's interface is TERRIBLE
as soon as I replaced the SD card, it fixed ALL my problems, and I imaged the card from my old one, so it wasn't anything that was actually on the card (i made an image because i tried formatting the stocker first)
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i just checked my card and its also a class 4 card, so maybe you just got a bad sd card
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i just checked my card and its also a class 4 card, so maybe you just got a bad sd card
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Class ratings are just a minimum speed rating, and actual read/write speeds vary widely between manufacturers and models of sd cards. You get what you pay for.
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Class ratings are just a minimum speed rating, and actual read/write speeds vary widely between manufacturers and models of sd cards. You get what you pay for.
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what would this even speed up besides flac and video?
Ha. When I got my phone it came with a 2gb class 2 card. I thought it was supposed to come wit an 8gb class 4. I got it back in end of june. If I called would they send me a replacement ya think?
Im actually thinking of writing/calling Motorola and talking to them about the problems I've had with this phone to see if they would let me trade in for a bionic. I wouldn't mind paying the price difference either. If course im gonna wait until I see what the bionic is like when it comes out friday but I feel like that's the exact phone I want even though I like the x2 a lot I feel like bionic is x2 on steroids from what I read.
so I just bought this card cause I use lots of storage space pretty quickly, My question is wtf is going on here? it just sticks on "checking for errors" and never gets past it, it mounted up once and while I was dumping files on it over USB from my computer (in usb mass storage mode) both it and my internal storage just disappeared, the copy operation failed, so I restarted the phone and I have yet to get the phone to mount it since then.
I'm running eclipse 1.3rc2, is this because of the sd flip-flop, the size of the card or the fact that it's class 10?
the card works perfectly fine in my camera, and in multiple PCs, but as soon as I stick it in my X2, it just doesn't want to work.
I noticed the stock SD card has a "bootable" partition flag, whereas this one doesn't. maybe this is my problem?
also what filesystem should I use, I run linux on my PCs so I can do whatever I want with it.
what if I just delete its partition table, put it in the phone and then let the phone format it? I've reformatted it with my PC and no dice.
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so I just bought this card cause I use lots of storage space pretty quickly, My question is wtf is going on here? it just sticks on "checking for errors" and never gets past it, it mounted up once and while I was dumping files on it over USB from my computer (in usb mass storage mode) both it and my internal storage just disappeared, the copy operation failed, so I restarted the phone and I have yet to get the phone to mount it since then.
I'm running eclipse 1.3rc2, is this because of the sd flip-flop, the size of the card or the fact that it's class 10?
the card works perfectly fine in my camera, and in multiple PCs, but as soon as I stick it in my X2, it just doesn't want to work.
I noticed the stock SD card has a "bootable" partition flag, whereas this one doesn't. maybe this is my problem?
also what filesystem should I use, I run linux on my PCs so I can do whatever I want with it.
what if I just delete its partition table, put it in the phone and then let the phone format it? I've reformatted it with my PC and no dice.
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When I got the 8gb card and using now it was acting weird ...would copy files when in the phone. I formatted it using the phone and it has worked fine since.
Good luck.
I can't say it will work for u but it cured the problems I had at the time.
just make sure u format the right card since in eclipse its switched around and recognized as internal in menu.
well, It took exchanging it for a class 4, and now it seems perfectly fine.
so note to self (and others)
NO CLASS 10 CARDS IN DROID X2, IT DOESN'T FN WORK!
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well, It took exchanging it for a class 4, and now it seems perfectly fine.
so note to self (and others)
NO CLASS 10 CARDS IN DROID X2, IT DOESN'T FN WORK!
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I don't think that is true...I thought I saw plenty of users say they use them.
Mine is class 6 and works just fine
Did u try formatting from in the phone while stock? Don't know if that would make a difference at all
I didn't read one single thread from someone successfully using a class 10 card without having issues, sometimes it took a few days/weeks, it only took me one mount/dismount cycle.
besides, the class 10 cards, while having a higher sustained transfer rate, their seek times and random access times are overall slower. basically these class 10 cards are ONLY good for digital video cameras and things that don't actually utilize a filesystem.
that or they're getting cheap chinese cards that are just remarked class 6 cards, the X2 can't read and write to a class 10 fast enough resulting in data corruption, period.
Yeah im not arguing
I understand what ur saying now
I can confirm class 6 being completely fine tho
I think the "issues" I had was the file size I was trying to transfer(4gb)
I don't think it's the class rating but the capacity. In my experience 32 gb cards just aren't as reliable as smaller-capacity ones. Perhaps it's a consequence of packing too many memory cells into such a small form factor, I don't know, but I've had three 32 gb micro-SD cards fail on me since the beginning of the year, whereas not a single 16 gb card has failed me yet.
I just dumped 4.8gb of crap on it, over usb and it took it like a champ, it's also significantly faster than the stock 8gb card in terms of mounting, remounting, scanning my media and even opening up fileexpert is faster.
class 6 i'm sure is fine, probably the best balance, but I can even take HD video straight to this card with no frame dropping or glitching. it's currently playing hd video on my hotel room TV right off the SD card w/ no issues (the stock 8gb couldn't do that)
Ha. Mine came wit a 2gb class 2 sdcard ...
Wait...now that I think about it.. I had bought a droid pro initially. It had a screen issue...I took it back and paid extra to get the x2. Then I told em I didn't wanna lose my pics/video I had taken and he switched the cards. So I guess he basically just kept the one I wax supposed to get instead of moving my data to the new one....prick...
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I don't think it's the class rating but the capacity. In my experience 32 gb cards just aren't as reliable as smaller-capacity ones. Perhaps it's a consequence of packing too many memory cells into such a small form factor, I don't know, but I've had three 32 gb micro-SD cards fail on me since the beginning of the year, whereas not a single 16 gb card has failed me yet.
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what brand(s)?
I'm using a Patriot LX 32GB Class 10 MicroSDHC now. I came from a Lexar 32GB class 10 which failed within a month. I haven't had any problems with the Patriot.
i am using a class 4 32gb card and transfer 16g of music on and off at one time constantly with no problems. i have had it since july
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i am using a class 4 32gb card and transfer 16g of music on and off at one time constantly with no problems. i have had it since july
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post the brand too.... this info is not useful.
in my case the 32gb class 10 pny card worked fine in everything but this damn phone.
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I'm using a Patriot LX 32GB Class 10 MicroSDHC now. I came from a Lexar 32GB class 10 which failed within a month. I haven't had any problems with the Patriot.
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I use the 16gb of this and it works great. I did hear more than once that even a good 32 gb can be a problem.
My pny class 10 32gb is still rockin with not a single error
from my X2 roaming the north
My 3rd MicroSD card in 8 months. I'm friking sick and tired of this!!!!
Is there an MicroSD card out there that actually lasts longer than all these piece of $%^ cards?
UGHHH!!!!!
It sounds like your phone is damaging them if you've gone through that many
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enik_fox said:
It sounds like your phone is damaging them if you've gone through that many
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The other 2 were damaged by my G2x .... I just got my Amaze. And the thing is.... is that I make sure I put it on "Charge Only" when I wanna take the phone from the usb cord..... try to prevent crap like this from happening!!!!!
I am usually so careful!
This SD card stopped working when I went into my Gallery!
go to newegg.com they usually have pretty good deals. i bought my 8gb card and another 4g card for my car, almost 2 years ago and both cards are still working.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...odeId=1&Tpk=32gb micro sd|micro sd|32gb micro
Is it formatted to a FAT32? That will probably save you from most headaches. I've had my 16g for almost 2yrs with no probs. I save tons of crap on mine. Movies, music, roms, apps...etc I haven't had a problem as of yet.
Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
did any of them happen to be sandisks, directly from sandisk website? I have NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH sandisk, IT MUST BE authentic though. Used a micro sd card for the past 3 years, still works.
depending on what you use your micro sd for it depends on what class you should get, a higher class is not always better for your purpose. A higher class has better sequantial read write, while a lower class has a better read write. If you transfering files all the time, I'll stick to class 2 or max 4. If you're trying to shoot movies more of the time get a higher class. there's been a topic on classes of microSD, honestly you don't need anything more than a class 2, it has plenty more write speed than is used by our phone to shoot HD video.
ALSO lower classes are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY less prone to get corrupt. keep that in mind next time.
SanDisk is ALL I will EVER buy.
I've git a 32GB class4 that I bought before realizing I need a class6 for 1080p video recording almface: but I've had no issues. I've also had an 8gb class 2 that's NEVER had issues (other than writing really slow) and I've had it for yrs now
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I have an ADATA 32GB card that I bought from Newegg back in September that has worked great for me. I used it in my HD2, and now in my Amaze. It is a class 4 card, but it has worked great for even 1080p recording on my Amaze. I'll test the speeds of the card and give the results later.
I picked up a class 10 Kingston 16gb on sale about 2 years ago and it's been working great. Loaded with movies, music, games, roms, etc... Use it everyday.
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did any of them happen to be sandisks, directly from sandisk website? I have NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH sandisk, IT MUST BE authentic though. Used a micro sd card for the past 3 years, still works.
depending on what you use your micro sd for it depends on what class you should get, a higher class is not always better for your purpose. A higher class has better sequantial read write, while a lower class has a better read write. If you transfering files all the time, I'll stick to class 2 or max 4. If you're trying to shoot movies more of the time get a higher class. there's been a topic on classes of microSD, honestly you don't need anything more than a class 2, it has plenty more write speed than is used by our phone to shoot HD video.
ALSO lower classes are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY less prone to get corrupt. keep that in mind next time.
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I had an 8GB which was Class 4..... and it was NOT SanDisk. I shoot a lot of high quality pictures and HD Vids.... That's mostly what I need my SD card for.... that and keeping my Rom downloads... I am so mad!
Doesn't lower class mean it will take a phone forever to read a 16gb class 2????
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Is it formatted to a FAT32? That will probably save you from most headaches. I've had my 16g for almost 2yrs with no probs. I save tons of crap on mine. Movies, music, roms, apps...etc I haven't had a problem as of yet.
Wait....I sent this with Tapatalk?
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I don't know if it was Fat32... I don't believe so.... but thanks for the heads up, will keep it mind!
If you use swap it will kill your sd card pretty fast too....
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My 3rd MicroSD card in 8 months. I'm friking sick and tired of this!!!!
Is there an MicroSD card out there that actually lasts longer than all these piece of $%^ cards?
UGHHH!!!!!
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I have my original 8gb SanDisk that came with my Evo 4G on release date and it still works perfectly. I've always stuck with SanDisk because they last.
Must be bad luck. I have a 16gb class 6 that I use in this phone and my last phone. So close to two years old now.
I have an Adata 16 gig class 10 SD card that eventually went bad on me. They are supposed to have a lifetime warranty so I'll see if I try that.
That microsd gave tons of headaches. My Droid 2 would start acting funny once it went bad. It would freeze, pics would show up sometimes and sometimes now. Lots of forcecloses and my computer would read and read it. I pretty much had to reformat it to get it working again but a few days later the problems would pop up.
I went ahead and bought a samsung 32 gig class 10 once I got my Amaze. So far so good this thing is even supposed to be water proof with a 5 year warranty. It was around $37 from Fry's.
I have a 16gb card for 8 bucks from ebay that I bought about 2 year ago. Works great.
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i have a Kensington 16GB and a SanDisk 8Gb both work great one i gave to my sister for her DSLR and the 16GB i keep in my back up blackberry to listen to music kensington or w.e is a good brand
damaged card
had a problem with sd phone and computer could not reformat put it in my blackberry formatted working fine higher class higher speed capable reader determined may increase reader read ahead to 2048 shoud show more speed root toolbox or similar app works
Here are the speeds I got on my ADATA class 4 32GB microSD card. I'm able to record 1080p with no problems.
I read somewhere that class 4 records 720p. I'll see if I can find it
While looking... I found myself proven to be corrected.
https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/speed_class/
My bad
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Brand new 16gb NT. Dual booting CM7 from the SD card, which is a brand new PNY 16gb Class 10. NookOS still on the internal. It just seems unstable-y to me.
First of all I have the wifi issue which seems to be common. It drops the signal quite a bit even when I have a seemingly strong commection and also doesn't always want to turn right on after sleep. I'm willing to chalk some of that up to my router, especially the dropping, but I thought I'd mention it for posterity.
I also get lots of reboots. It seems to happen most when I have a few things running. Have the gall to install an app while having Gmail open, then the audacity to open Gtalk on top of that? Boom! Reboot. You get the idea.
It's also just sluggish in general, be it with web browsing, games, music, etc. Netflix makes me feel like I'm running it on a Pentium II. And Yahoo mail arguably doesn't work it's so slow. Lots of system notifications and "force closeds."
I've also had the issue where I couldn't get it to boot CM at all. It would get to the splash screen then freeze and reboot. More than once I had to reformat the card and start over.
Surely this isn't what I should be experiencing. Will it help to root it and install to the internal? I wanted to keep NookOS on there in case I want to sell it and upgrade.
Any thoughts?
I started with the PNY and found the same thing. I switched to an 8 GB Sandisk Class 4 and could not believe the difference. It has to do with the small block write speed and the PNY is SLOW.
There is a lot of material in the forum about what brand and speed of micro sd to use. If you are curious you can search.
I have a 32 GB Sandisk Class 4 on order and intend to transfer to it when it comes and I find out how.
Bill
Its likely because you are using a higher class sd card. Drop down to a class 4 and you'll see an improvement.
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Its likely because you are using a higher class sd card. Drop down to a class 4 and you'll see an improvement.
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miniblue said:
I started with the PNY and found the same thing. I switched to an 8 GB Sandisk Class 4 and could not believe the difference. It has to do with the small block write speed and the PNY is SLOW.
There is a lot of material in the forum about what brand and speed of micro sd to use. If you are curious you can search.
I have a 32 GB Sandisk Class 4 on order and intend to transfer to it when it comes and I find out how.
Bill
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So is it the class 10 cards altogether, or just PNY?
I would say class 10 in general is a bad idea. Its a misconception that higher class = better, in general. They are better for camcorders/digital audio recorders, but that's about it. In general you should stick to class 4 cards.
I can't speak on that brand personally. I only use SanDisk cards.
Amazon has the 32 GB Sandisk Class 4 for less than $16. You can get 8 gb for less than $8. Go for the bigger one if it fits your pocketbook.
Bill
Ok, so I have to get a new card. Maybe I can unload this one on Craigslist.
What about just rooting it and installing to the internal? The only thing is now I guess the NookOS is bricked as I cant get back into it. Can I unbrick with a class 10? The thread said to use a class 4.
If you want to run internal cm7, simply create a clockworkmod bootable sdcard (same process you did for cm7 on sdcard, but with the cwm image). Then download the cm7 zip file to the sdcard or your internal memory, boot into clockworkmod via the sdcard and install from zip. Download and install gapps in clockworkmod as well if you want the play store/google apps.
A quick question off topic...I went to get a copy of the internal CM7 and the link in the development forum isn't working...any idea where I can find a working link?
Thanks,
Nikkie