Are there any des working on this phone other than the few who are shaving over the 2-3 roms we have here in the development section?
My last phone was a nexus s (very used to variety and activity. And aokp) and these forums are disturbingly quiet, as are all the other ones i can find. Makes me wonder if i should find a trade on an international version, but this one looks so much better!
Thoughts? am i simply missing something?
Just relax, it will pick up, like always.
Still a new device
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Give it time. The phone was just released.
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The note is a great platform in a great series of devices. Devs will not let it go untouched.
Would you rather have some cook bustout a rom he just copy pasted together from some source code he got from a Google search and it be filled with bugs and FCs or have a high quality rom that devs with talent have been working day and night in their spare time (for free) to build?
Long story short: get the note and breath lol
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The Nexus S is a developer device no? Don't compare apples to oranges..
You should have bought a Google Nexus if you wanted the same kind of dev support a Nexus developer device brings.
kevinjgray88 said:
The note is a great platform in a great series of devices. Devs will not let it go untouched.
Would you rather have some cook bustout a rom he just copy pasted together from some source code he got from a Google search and it be filled with bugs and FCs or have a high quality rom that devs with talent have been working day and night in their spare time (for free) to build?
Long story short: get the note and breath lol
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i was more looking at the lack of activity on forums even talking about developing for it, not so much the lack of roms.
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The Nexus S is a developer device no? Don't compare apples to oranges..
You should have bought a Google Nexus if you wanted the same kind of dev support a Nexus developer device brings.
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oh i'm not, i'm just saying its a big change.
this is going to sound completely like entitled bs, but i didn't buy the note, samsung (or one of their partners) sent me one.
derrick_ said:
this is going to sound completely like entitled bs, but i didn't buy the note, samsung (or one of their partners) sent me one.
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Then smash it up, put it back in the box marked return to sender with a little note inside that says "ICS or GTFO"
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The Nexus S is a developer device no? Don't compare apples to oranges..
You should have bought a Google Nexus if you wanted the same kind of dev support a Nexus developer device brings.
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Lets be honest...
If you want a device w/ an overactive dev community... HD2... that forum seems to STILL be rocking.
The Evo3d also has a pretty active community.
NO samusung device starts off w/ a super exciting community. They build slowly it seems. But i imagine it will pick up.
I never got it why people are so obsessed with flashing roms every 12 hours...
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I never got it why people are so obsessed with flashing roms every 12 hours...
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Because every 6 hours would be a tad much
babyfacedkayos said:
Lets be honest...
If you want a device w/ an overactive dev community... HD2... that forum seems to STILL be rocking.
The Evo3d also has a pretty active community.
NO samusung device starts off w/ a super exciting community. They build slowly it seems. But i imagine it will pick up.
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thanks for the info. Is this because of Touchwiz or what? I mean i know of the driver issues with ics and sammy, ofc.
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I never got it why people are so obsessed with flashing roms every 12 hours...
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I don't do such things. On my nexus i would try out roms once in a while, but i typically find a solid feature-rich Rom and stick with it.
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Because every 6 hours would be a tad much
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ok...you win best
"zip" of the day right there!
zaptor99 said:
Because every 6 hours would be a tad much
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Not on my HD2 it wasn't lol, and with WP7 ROMs and Android ROMs to choose from, sometimes every 3 hours
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thanks for the info. Is this because of Touchwiz or what? I mean i know of the driver issues with ics and sammy, ofc.
I don't do such things. On my nexus i would try out roms once in a while, but i typically find a solid feature-rich Rom and stick with it.
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Not on my HD2 it wasn't lol, and with WP7 ROMs and Android ROMs to choose from, sometimes every 3 hours
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I'm with you, i have no time limit. There are times where I went months on a rom, but other times that I was flashing numerous roms just to see how they differed. I have so many android devices in my house that there's always something to play with. We are up to 3 nook colors, so I'm able to flash a phire to one, kanged to one, and good ol CM to one just to play with them side by side. Flashing roms is just fun to some and approached with a "why the hell not?" attitude rather then "ok i think im sure i want this one, i've ready all 8,532 comments on the thread...i think im ready", which is of course how i started this addiction.
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I'm with you, i have no time limit. There are times where I went months on a rom, but other times that I was flashing numerous roms just to see how they differed. I have so many android devices in my house that there's always something to play with. We are up to 3 nook colors, so I'm able to flash a phire to one, kanged to one, and good ol CM to one just to play with them side by side. Flashing roms is just fun to some and approached with a "why the hell not?" attitude rather then "ok i think im sure i want this one, i've ready all 8,532 comments on the thread...i think im ready", which is of course how i started this addiction.
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Haha +1 10000%
Chief Geek said:
I'm with you, i have no time limit. There are times where I went months on a rom, but other times that I was flashing numerous roms just to see how they differed. I have so many android devices in my house that there's always something to play with. We are up to 3 nook colors, so I'm able to flash a phire to one, kanged to one, and good ol CM to one just to play with them side by side. Flashing roms is just fun to some and approached with a "why the hell not?" attitude rather then "ok i think im sure i want this one, i've ready all 8,532 comments on the thread...i think im ready", which is of course how i started this addiction.
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exacty, lol
also I noticed that the developers here are working much harder..1 its a new device...there's not much to go on when there limited to options.....once they establish the tools they need for more efficient roms and kernels will begin.....plus I noticed a lot of newer people here that this is there first android device......developers work very hard for there non profit work...countless hours of work to what?....get a thanks if that maybe?.....people need to donate more to the developers for there time in giving us the themes and roms and kernels we need to make our device fast and stable.....I noticed and spoke with a few and mentioned not many of them are even getting donations......don't you think that would push or motivate someone to help the community?....if I wasn't getting anyrhing for 100 + hours...me personally would keep my findings to my self if I'm not appreciated...they don't have to share there knowledge ! they do it because there nice ...
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another thing..where do you think they get the knowledge to do all of this?...from research....what's stopping half of you to learn how to do anything...that's where they started am I right?...I know theming and know how to build roms...but I learned from studying my ass off.....no one taught me anything.....so if your worried about development consider the aspect in there shoes....and if your not happy switch devices or learn on how to do the basics and go from there....you can learn from research its not really that hard...just takes pure dedication and a lot of time to learn
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also I noticed that the developers here are working much harder..1 its a new device...there's not much to go on when there limited to options.....once they establish the tools they need for more efficient roms and kernels will begin.....plus I noticed a lot of newer people here that this is there first android device......developers work very hard for there non profit work...countless hours of work to what?....get a thanks if that maybe?.....people need to donate more to the developers for there time in giving us the themes and roms and kernels we need to make our device fast and stable.....I noticed and spoke with a few and mentioned not many of them are even getting donations......don't you think that would push or motivate someone to help the community?....if I wasn't getting anyrhing for 100 + hours...me personally would keep my findings to my self if I'm not appreciated...they don't have to share there knowledge ! they do it because there nice ...
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I am definitely up for throwing a c-note
to a developer who has a good game plan and shows a roadmap of what they want to accomplish.
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another thing..where do you think they get the knowledge to do all of this?...from research....what's stopping half of you to learn how to do anything...that's where they started am I right?...I know theming and know how to build roms...but I learned from studying my ass off.....no one taught me anything.....so if your worried about development consider the aspect in there shoes....and if your not happy switch devices or learn on how to do the basics and go from there....you can learn from research its not really that hard...just takes pure dedication and a lot of time to learn
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I'm actually doing so...and I'm knee deep in research to determine steps I need to take and how to troubleshoot, etc.
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Well well well....we asked for S-off/root and we got it. Within hours the ROMs flooded the dev page.
I loved this phone from the minute I got it. ROMs are making it better. CM7 and MIUI are coming at which point I will probably run around my neighborhood in my skivvies screaming about it.
I have one gripe though. Why are there SOOOO many ROMs? I know everyone wants to get their hands dirty at doing dev work. It makes you the cool kid on the block, and there's a good chance that if you put one on XDA, CheesyNutz will flash it at least once.
I feel like the ROMs are too hard to choose from because most of them are similar, with some being almost exactly the same with minor differences.
This is what I propose. First of all, maybe someone with more ambition than me (read: anyone) could put together a comparison chart of all the ROMs based on the features they have. Using that data, maybe some of the devs that have similar direction/are trying to achieve the same thing can collaborate.
The way I see it, there will be less confusion on the development page, with better ROMs that have more options.
TL;DR - Devs need to collab. on ROMs to reduce clutter and improve ROMs
Oh God. You're not seriously *****ing about too many choices are you?
there is an insane amount of roms, lol most of them offer alot of the same things..but I say, the more roms...THE BETTER!!!!!
Variety is the spice of life...
So you complain about having to look through the ROMs that people develop for your phone (for free) you want a chart made with all the comparisons of those free ROMs but you want somebody else to do it for you? What's wrong with this picture?
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So you complain about having to look through the ROMs that people develop for your phone (for free) you want a chart made with all the comparisons of those free ROMs but you want somebody else to do it for you? What's wrong with this picture?
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This. +1.
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OP I think you should give your EVO 3D to somebody on XDA and go get yourself an iPhone.
playslikepage71 said:
Well well well....we asked for S-off/root and we got it. Within hours the ROMs flooded the dev page.
I loved this phone from the minute I got it. ROMs are making it better. CM7 and MIUI are coming at which point I will probably run around my neighborhood in my skivvies screaming about it.
I have one gripe though. Why are there SOOOO many ROMs? I know everyone wants to get their hands dirty at doing dev work. It makes you the cool kid on the block, and there's a good chance that if you put one on XDA, CheesyNutz will flash it at least once.
I feel like the ROMs are too hard to choose from because most of them are similar, with some being almost exactly the same with minor differences.
This is what I propose. First of all, maybe someone with more ambition than me (read: anyone) could put together a comparison chart of all the ROMs based on the features they have. Using that data, maybe some of the devs that have similar direction/are trying to achieve the same thing can collaborate.
The way I see it, there will be less confusion on the development page, with better ROMs that have more options.
TL;DR - Devs need to collab. on ROMs to reduce clutter and improve ROMs
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Yeah i dont think people have more ambition than you since no one else is complainin' lol
The more devs on our device the better.
you gotta remember for a lot of the devs what there releasing now is really just a base for what they will be doing as things progress. over time you will start to see every devs individual preferences start to show along with the themes and all the eye candy some devs like.
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The more devs on our device the better.
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right..i just came from the galaxy s 4g on tmobile, and there was literally like 2 roms over there..lol
that's usually what android development is for, to share one another their custom made rom, so no i dont think there are many roms yet, so bring it on!!!
You know what?. people like the OP disgust me. ya Commie..
I bet you think we should all just be happy with 1 ROM to use don'tcha Ruskie?!
Think it's totally ok for us all to just stand in line and wait for our daily allowance of bread, Comrade!?
HUH?!
THIS IS 'MURICA AND WE DON'T TAKE KINDLY TO YOUR TYPE 'ROUND THESE HERE PARTS!!
AAnnyways, I can see your point of view. There are several roms that seem the same right now. it's been barely a week since S-off and it's a very good sign that everyone is wanting to make ROM's, once everyone has their bases done we will see differences pop up, custom themes, ingenious tweaks, etc. Give it some time. The 3D scene is still young.
seriously????....
Im fixin to post my set up soon, so get ready for a phatman ROM. That's one more to the list. Probably the best one ever too.
B l a s p h e m y ! ! !
The more ROMS the Merryer
Theres too many moneys in my wallet gotta be a bad thing
Can't wait phatman it will be the slowest most bloated rom ever
If you don't have an Evo3d well... You ain't got ****e
get bent new guy
I can agree with the OP to an extent. For me, seeing the Dev forum say [ROM] after [ROM] after [ROM] is a bit overwhelming for me. But, it's just like any other free market. You're confronted with 40 brands of hot sauce, and damn, that's a lot, but you try one, see how it is, and choose based on that. The bonus of all of these ROMs is that A), they're available online, so you don't have to drive to the store, and B), they're free.
Just my 2 fiat cents.
Just curious..Where have all the Devs gone? The first few days the dev section seemed to be on fire! I haven't seen anything new pop up in a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be asking this question. I know they do this as hobby/passion and for free which is why I'm simply asking for "proof of life".lol.
Anyone know of anything in the works? Giving me even more of a reason to check the forums 100 times a day like a true flashaholic ;-)
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Just curious..Where have all the Devs gone? The first few days the dev section seemed to be on fire! I haven't seen anything new pop up in a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be asking this question. I know they do this as hobby/passion and for free which is why I'm simply asking for "proof of life".lol.
Anyone know of anything in the works? Giving me even more of a reason to check the forums 100 times a day like a true flashaholic ;-)
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Take a walk outside for some fresh air.
Messages like these will not motivate any dev in getting 'cracking'.
what do you mean, it is doing just fine.....they have been plugging away at getting CWM working....which without leaves most users at a disadvantage cuz some people just seem to have issues with oden and ADB. now that they have an alpha of CWM roms will be coming next. and i also think that since ICS is coming up the future that devs are waiting for that. why keep dropping ginger roms? and i see them working on ICS roms as well. we have a stable ginger rom in TPC's/da g's kernel mix. i still see the same devs working and plugging away and we have more now than we did 2 weeks ago...
they are working, and like you said.... they are working on there own time and for FREE.
we should all be greatful. when they stop working be worried.
I think ICS is in the works. The DEV just wants to clean up some of the other issues he is working on. Yes this is vague but I do not want to over step my bounds.
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I too am eager however the one and only rom we have is stable. I can wait for ICS as long as it takes. We have an overclock kernel as well. With other devices I have seen dozens of roms and dozens of kernels with only one or two having full functionality. We have been very fortunate. With that said there seems to be less than the usual amount of Development on this device but remember this is brand new. It takes a while... with the streak we only had a few devs and even then at one point really only one dev. Give it a few weeks. If not do like I am and imerse yourself in reading on how to make roms. I develop android apps and have a few in the market, now that does not qualify me to make roms it does mean that I have the ability to learn like many others could do if they were motivated to do so.
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Take a walk outside for some fresh air.
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I THOUGHT I made it clear that was not my intention at all. Thanks for the other responses they actually answered my question. There are many people like me who are fairly new to this. I am coming from the inspire and when I first got it there were tons of roms available, but I got it 4 months after launch. Then I realized I could have been using the desire HD roms. Can the international rooms be flashed using Odin?
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Can the international rooms be flashed using Odin?
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NO. You will brick your device if you try to flash international ROMs, as they have a different processor as well as other various differences that essentially make them completely different beasts with the same form factor.
Reading a bit more would inform you as to why development is slow right now and why you can't flash international ROMs.
To give you the sparknotes version of what's going on however:
As others have said, we only have an alpha version of CWM, so devs are working on getting that polished up.
Second, devs are working on a way to get around the flash counter, so that you do not have any problems with a warranty exchange in the future. If you don't care about your warranty or want to risk a return with a triggered flash counter, go for it. Other phones have had their flash counter bypassed, so I'm sure our talented devs will come up with a solution fairly soon.
Also, as others have mentioned, we have one stable ROM already, and a great kernel, so that should solve most problems with using the stock ROM until more development occurs.
Lastly, with ICS on the horizon, there is not really a good reason to produce a ton of GB ROMs, so be patient and use the stable one we have already until ICS drops in a few months or so.
The longest anybody has had this device is 11 days right now, and we already have a stable ROM and OC/UV capable kernel. In my opinion, that's a damn good start, and I have a feeling that development will eventually be huge on this device. Give it a few months. =]
So funny how everyone keeps talking about ICS like its coming in two weeks! Btw the release date for that that everyone think is coming soon is for the International version!
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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So funny how everyone keeps talking about ICS like its coming in two weeks! Btw the release date for that that everyone think is coming soon is for the International version!
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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Nobody here referenced the international release of official ICS. I think most people here know that it doesn't mean anything for our devices. However, it will be here eventually, and devs are most likely already working on porting over an unofficial version.
The phone been out a week. Lmao, wow
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Nobody here referenced the international release of official ICS. I think most people here know that it doesn't mean anything for our devices. However, it will be here eventually, and devs are most likely already working on porting over an unofficial version.
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There are various dev versions of ICS cooking as we speak; and, I also wouldn't be surprised if Samsung surprises everyone with an official version on/around March 15th... including a US version.
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There are various dev versions of ICS cooking as we speak; and, I also wouldn't be surprised if Samsung surprises everyone with an official version on/around March 15th... including a US version.
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I feel the same way. ATT and Samsung know they need to do something to pull ahead of android competition; they've done it with quality android hardware, now they need to do it with consumer peace-of-mind on the software upgrade front. Nowhere has Samsung said that ICS for "international note" is coming in Q1 2012. They merely say it is coming to the "note", period. I think ICS will come for the US variant sooner rather than later. I know when I got my Atrix, people whined and hollared that it would never get GB. ATT delivered GB very soon, to the scorn of the red-faced naysayers. I know the Atrix was Motorola, but its still an example of a carrier pushing a fast update. Samsung is an excellent company, especially with their Android devices. If any company leads the way for quicker full-product-line android upgrades, I'd expect it to be them.
Pure speculation and I'm maybe totally wrong, but I think the US Note will see ICS very soon.
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thank you guys and gals
This is the downside of getting a newly launched device. I went thru it with the asus transformer 101. That was a little painful in the beginning, but the brilliant minds solved all the problems. It took about a month to really get rolling.
I picked up the Infuse about a year after launch and it was humming within 3 days cause all the hard work had already been done by those great minds in their forum.
The advantage with the Note is it's really great as a stock phone out of the box.
The smart guys and gals here want to advance just as much as we want them to succeed in making this Note the best it can be. So, Patience, and let them work. When they have something good they will be shouting it as loud as can be.
Support and good words go along way. We appreciate you guys more than you know! Thank you for all your efforts, and time away from your work, family, friends and hobbies to devote to this great piece of hardware.
this forum has gotten more action in the past week then the atrix did in the first 2 months. lol.
Damn you guys that are coming from other forums are spoiled!!! I remember waiting foreeevveer just to flash something on the atrix.. and then when CWM came out i was like "wtf is a CWM?" (atrix was my first android).
Stock rom on this phone is doing pretty well for me .Froze all the bloat, not using touchwiz -- and its like i dont even have anything from Samsung on there (besides the SPEN).
I can do without a rom until ICS comes out.. and that is going to do wonders for this device. ICS on the ATRIX is like a breath of fresh air, cant wait to see it on this beast.
Your right, I guess I was kinda spoiled coming from the inspire/desire HD forums. I never realized how long it takes to get things up and running. I apologize if I came off as being impatient. Again that was NOT my intention. I love these forums and appreciate the Devs hard work immensely.
On another "Note" (I know,I know, sorry) I was at best buy mobile last night where I know a couple sales reps and they mentioned that they hoped someone ported over Ics soon as the Samsung rep they spoke with at their store said Ics won't be coming our way for a good while. I myself take that with a grain of salt though. Do you think that a Samsung sales rep would even really know the Ics release schedule?
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Its easy to see all the new users. It takes time. Plus why worry about a flash counter? Do any of you know of anyone or heard of anyone having issues with that? I havent and flashed my skyrocket alot before i turned it in. Seems to just be a way to make n00bs worry. And its working
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Its easy to see all the new users. It takes time. Plus why worry about a flash counter? Do any of you know of anyone or heard of anyone having issues with that? I havent and flashed my skyrocket alot before i turned it in. Seems to just be a way to make n00bs worry. And its working
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Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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I guess I never looked too far into the flash counter. I had read a few threads about it, and people seemed to be convinced that AT&T would get fussy about it. I suppose it doesn't really mean much if you end up putting your phone back to stock and unrooting before returning it. If it wasn't for rooting and such, developers couldn't make apps and flash stuff to the phone, so I guess it doesn't really make sense at all why they would care if the device has been flashed with something else, especially if it is returned to a stock state for a return.
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Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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I mean I'm at least waiting for more than one ROM, when there are a good supply of awesome ROMs I'll jump right in.
Lol. It's not like all the Dev's aren't answering posts in their respective forums...
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Finally get kernel source and development slows down.. bummer
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too many new phones coming out!
Great things come to those who wait...
How is it slowing down
We have like a new kernel every day. Read Chad's dev thread he is going warp speed on his progress and we are becoming the only second verizon phone aside form the nexus to have aosp ( tbolt had it because of slayer ).
So right about now, i think if i had the money, i would re-buy the rezound, finally the perfect merge between hardware and software.
And beside all that, all of the devs are busy with school , yet they still have time to try on jelly bean and work on it.
Instead of making a thread like that, i would take the time, go press your max 8 thank yous to every thread and buy them a cup of coffee.
Ok this came out a bit hostile, i am sorry about that, but we have a bunch of awesome devs right, its like we have la creme de la creme now, and i feel completely opposite from you.
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Finally get kernel source and development slows down.. bummer
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Like the last guy said. I don't think it has slowed so much as it has shifted. Everyone seems to be working on soap now. Also school has started and people do have lives (i hope). It's still the weekend, get out there and enjoy it!
We are just getting like literally 100% cm9 like .. any day now. It's at 90% right now.
AOKP is not far behind, idk say 70% currently and will be 100% in a week to three weeks(total guess by me). We have MIUI, not sure where it's at right now haven't been looking. We have great ics ROM's. We have Great sense 4 ROM's. We have great kernels being pumped out everyday now. We have Fully functional GSM ROM's The dev's that are almost done with cm9 are getting into jelly bean now... what more do you want ...
oh yeah and 1-3 people are thinking of porting touch wiz over or something as well.
Edit 2: Oh it also looks like someone is working on paranoid android also hmm so what was it you wanted op a phone that prints cookies right before you get home?
mmm cookies that would be sick xD lawl
Edit 1: It hasn't slowed it has went warp speed in the background
lack of releases =/= lack of development.
And we'll probably be getting jb quite soon.
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That's a very snide way to look at development. It's not like this stuff happens over night.
Only thing I have to say is if your unsatisfied with development maybe you should learn to develop yourself. That way you can for fill your own needs. Not sure what people expect sometimes. We have about 4 different kernels all kinds of ROMs, and themes what the hell are you expecting? Let me get you some cheese..
I can tell by your 11 post and 1 thanks that you have a lot to contribute.. This thread should be closed..
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Only thing I have to say is if your unsatisfied with development maybe you should learn to develop yourself. That way you can for fill your own needs. Not sure what people expect sometimes. We have about 4 different kernels all kinds of ROMs, and themes what the hell are you expecting? Let me get you some cheese..
I can tell by your 11 post and 1 thanks that you have a lot to contribute.. This thread should be closed..
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Post vs thanks count isn't really a fair way to look at this. When I started out mine was really low too, but now I'm pretty helpful around here. (I fully agree the OP's attitude sucks though)
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Finally get kernel source and development slows down.. bummer
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You're kidding, right? The dev thread gets updated every day or so, and I believe chad just managed to fix bluetooth. We're getting ready to start on JB. Just buy a new phone if you want instant gratification
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We are just getting like literally 100% cm9 like .. any day now. It's at 90% right now.
AOKP is not far behind, idk say 70% currently and will be 100% in a week to three weeks(total guess by me). We have MIUI, not sure where it's at right now haven't been looking. We have great ics ROM's. We have Great sense 4 ROM's. We have great kernels being pumped out everyday now. We have Fully functional GSM ROM's The dev's that are almost done with cm9 are getting into jelly bean now... what more do you want ...
oh yeah and 1-3 people are thinking of porting touch wiz over or something as well.
Edit: It hasn't slowed it has went warp speed in the background
lack of releases =/= lack of development.
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Im trying to build ParanoidAndroid from source for us atm, including all the fixes that have happened since the last build was made. Im learning this as I go but I got cm9 built so I know I can do it.
Antp's cm9 kang works great, I've been running it for a few days now and haven't had any compliants about it! Once Devin works on uberkernel more and cm9 reaches full stability on our phones it will be awesome. I was running Neo's adrenaline and it was good but cm9 totally kicks it's ass! The battery life is absolutely amazing, I've had my phone on for 5 hours and I'm at 72% when I'd usually be at about 30 when on a sense rom!
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Post vs thanks count isn't really a fair way to look at this. When I started out mine was really low too, but now I'm pretty helpful around here. (I fully agree the OP's attitude sucks though)
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hahaha i just lol'ed at how you're patting yourself on the back there. classic ashton.
Wow. At times this forum is just not friendly. I'm guessing the OP feels this way because there are no JB roms yet. I can share the eager anticipation.
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Wow. At times this forum is just not friendly. I'm guessing the OP feels this way because there are no JB roms yet. I can share the eager anticipation.
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This community went through a lot. We love and respect our developers and their free work. We get riled up when people come and drive our dev away. If you want jb ( which i am sure is coming in due time ) then get the crappy nexus.
Dont forget, we have one of the only 3 phones on the network that can surf and talk on 3g, its a hard radio to figure but bec of out lightning speed developing , we now have aosp on one of the best hardware verizon has.
BTW, any one else think that verizon tech support are highly uneducated ... I keep trying to explain to them this surf and talk over 3g that makes it so special with our rezound and they go " yeah all of our 4g phones can do this on 4g networks , of if there is wifi and 3g. Are they retarted ???? what kind of crap is that , they dont even know their own phones ?
we should make more thread to ***** at verizon , not our devs. I would be down for that .
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Wow. At times this forum is just not friendly. I'm guessing the OP feels this way because there are no JB roms yet. I can share the eager anticipation.
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Your right...
OP what can we do for you to make it better?
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hahaha i just lol'ed at how you're patting yourself on the back there. classic ashton.
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I wouldn't say patting myself on the back, but rather relating my story for the OP
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Your right...
OP what can we do for you to make it better?
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I want a pony!
I vote we banish OP to my old phone. If this is slow development, then ours over there never even left the starting gate.
i know i posted up earlier about the red border. Everything is good now. I just now have questions about this phone and its development stages. Since for some reason i cant post in dev page. I have to ask here.
So i was half tempted to not get this phone simply because i browsed the threads and saw no real roms or kernals that do anything fancy. I come from an evo 3d and could flash a rom every single day if i wanted because there were so many. I know this phone is new how new im still not sure upon. I see a real lack of any development on here. The best you can get is turning your og into a nexus 4 and than have cm 10.1 with the downside of only 8gigs of storage period. Well that was the whole reason i did not just pick up the htc one x was because there was no expandable memory and at most you had 10g of internal storage and thats it! so whats going on here? I know alot about the scene and though i have no coding experience myself nor rom building experience. I do love to test roms and i really want a not a stock feel to the phone. Where is the overclocking, where is the transperent status bar, where is anything to make this phone really stick out from stock? Hell i was running jb 4.2 on my evo 3d. Now im stuck being back on ICS? How is this possible that there is not stable jb port to this phone that is properly working. I have 14 days to return this phone. And with people releasing roms that the camera does not work, and storage is crap, and no overclocking support, is it because this is not the phone i thought it could be? Am i not doing enough research. Im currently rooted, unlocked, and running nocturnal limited, and i still feel stock and still 4.04.
Is this phone going to be heavily dev supported like the evo 3d is still today or should i return it and get a phone like the htc one that actually has dev support. All the roms i have seen for this phone is almost complete garbage interms of what this phone should be capable of. And the idea of turning into a nexus 4 is the most idiotic thing i ever heard.... let me change my phone to be another phone? Who wanted that and why did they just not go and get the nexus 4? I may be ranting but i could have got the htc one for .99 as opposed to the $100 i paid to sign a contract with att. I want to know if i am really getting jipped here. Is this not the phone plenty rave about? If your on this site there is no way you want a stock feeling phone and thats what i feel we are getting. I donated to get the freegee app to find out there is no good roms therefor no need to unlock the bootloader so i can flash roms that are not here..........
please dont come at me like a hard a$$ and talk crap, im simply expressing an opinion and asking questions. I loved my evo3d and if i have to carry both around because my 3 year old phone is 10 times better than this optimus im going to be upset. I would just like someone to explain what is in the works with this phone, and if and when there will be some real dev support and why there is almost non at the moment. It sad when devs are still all over the 3d posting new roms everyday, and this one has 5 that are garbage?
thank you for your actual intelligent responses, and cant wait for some nerd raging on me for blasting this out like this. Im simply being real.
Try reading this forum for the answers to your questions. Then maybe sell your OG to someone who appreciates it and knows what to do with it. Sounds like you'd be better off with a SG3. Good luck.
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Wow.... I'll take your OG if you don't want it. Seriously, I will.
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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exactly the responses i was expecting lol.....
Its clearly obvious i have read the forums as i am rooted, unlocked with twrp and nocturnal limited rom... so thank you for pointing out how much i have not read.
As for the sg3...... well thats is just an over priced piece of trash everyone i know hates them.... so thanks but piss off...
as for your iphone comment... only mainstream looooooosers have iphones as they are for the dumb...
no you may not have my optimus if i do anything with it , it will go back to att and ill get a htc one x+ at least people are doing things or at least talking of things they are doing.
HTC has huge dev support and this being my first LG i knew it was going to take some getting used to. I was just hoping for a little more out of this highly praised machine. It is a great phone, i will not say its not. I just was expecting from such a great phone a huge dev following of which i do not see. I see about 5 different roms, a custom cwm touch recovery, and hmmm..... turning your optimus into a nexus.. For you thinking that i am bashing on lg and should give it away.... there is people here pretending there phones are different phones... "hey look i know it says lg but is totally a nexus!" I can download a launcher that makes my phone look like a windows phone.... but hmmmm how dumb is that? At the end of this rant, i was curious as to what anyone knows about the future of the development on this phone. Clearly you do not have answers because that would take thinking, your idiotic comments and replys did nothing to offer any sort of answer nor did it show your IQ being anywhere near that of a 10 year old..
I clearly posted i await your nerd rage and therefore clearly enjoy it, however this thread was not started with the sole intent of it being a bickering fest. I wanted some serious answers, and I tried to express myself and thoughts on this phone along with questions that involved the future of this phone.
I am a flashaholic, i love to make my phones the best they can be. I love anything custom! So if you wanna cry about my thoughts on the phone cry, ill bring you a tissue, otherwise offer some real insight into what this phone is all about, and hopefully where this phone might be heading. Otherwise take your trolling, crying , butthurt comments somewhere else, as they are just absolutely humorous to me, and ill will reply accordingly.
Thanks and hope to hear some real comments...
btw: i cant wait for the grammer police comments cause it seems if no one has something good to say, they just like to correct your grammer, sort of like "your a tool" "no, your a tool" and we can definatly take this back to 1st grade if you like.
Joecascio2000 said:
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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ripbabey said:
look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
gregk232 said:
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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You sir..... Is your computer broken, are you stuck on my thread and only my thread which is preventing you from looking at anything else, instead of making a dumb rude comment? Stop trolling every thread and post that is on the site.... you talk about giving my life meaning and here you are telling me to stop it? Hmmmm who are you? I asked questions and my personal feelings on the phone thus far, and in no way bashed the phone or its following. I simply asked questions. I posted joes comment because as i read i actually found it useful. So thanks for peeking in this thread but your comments are best left in that pea sized thing rattling around in your giant head some might call a brain.. I asked questions in the Q and A forum......your comment was neither a q nor an a thus GTFO! XDA is where is got a lot of my EVO 3D questions answered and i respect this site. Its arseholes like you that make people scared to ask questions for fear of some ignorant jacka$$ trying to put them down.
I however can not and will not be intimidated, if i have done anything to violate the terms of this forum, please report me and have me banned. Your STOP IT attack was in no way useful.
SO..... STOP IT, JUST STOP IT!
ripbabey said:
never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
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Wish I had better news. We are all eagerly and (in)patiently waiting for the first release of non-stock roms. Unfortunately, it's just a waiting game. Right now it's LG's move and they are taking their sweet little time. We do have a strong dev following. They are lurking in the shadows. We are very fortunate that we have both an international version of this phone and also the Nexus 4. That gives us two pools where ROMs can be ported from. Just like the Nexus S, i9000, and Samsung Captivate. All of which are still going strong. It took time to get things setup for those phones and like I said we are at a disadvantage because LG isn't as "helpful" as Samsung. Development will take off one way or another, we just have to wait.
IMHO though, nobody should be complaining because stock LG is amazing. And the stock ROMs are perfect.
Dude....
Your entire post sounds like one big vagina monologue.
"There is not enough dev support for this phone..... I can't believe we don't have a stable JB ROM..... I want to flash a new rom every day....."
Waaa waaa waaa :crying::crying::crying::crying:
No one is intimidating you.
Just making the point that you obviously did not act like a rational consumer by purchasing a product that does not meet your expectations, then complain about it in the QA section.
Not sure why you needed to create this thread. Return the phone and get something else if you aren't happy with it. It's not rocket science, lol.
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Oh look, it's this thread again
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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gregk232 said:
Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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Yes! In before thread closed!:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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They wouldn't close this thread, it has been nothing but honest, intelligent, mature, informative discussion.
But honestly, this has been asked a lot... We are hoping development will pick up after the source is released and JB hits our device.
But there are no guarantees, it is kind of your fault for picking up a device (great as it may be) that doesn't have 20+ ROMs out for it, you should have looked here first and shied away from the device if development was so important.
Based on what we have heard from devs, the work is being done, it is slow going with no source and nobody wants to work on ICS when JB is coming so soon.
Also, one of the biggest problems here, you called what development we have seen released "garbage," most likely (hopefully) the devs can dismiss that statement as the angry rantings of somebody with a bad filter, but it is still terrible motivation to spur development further.
Work has gone into the development we have seen, it may not have quite the shock and awe factor you are looking for, but they are solid works.
It sounded like you were very unappreciative and then demanded more, maybe not your intention, but that is how it can be construed.
I'm not trying to bash you in any way, but the community does better when there is less... negativity.
Also, no need to be so defensive, you knew you would get the responses you did, should have just let them slide.
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Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
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dood i agree the i777 forums was a nightmare with all the immaturity attitude around
I get the feeling OP is the kind of guy that complains when he gets free stuff.
As for getting a new phone, good riddance. You really didn't need to make this thread. A lot of us are waiting on custom ROMs and CM10 and all that. You don't see us whining about it like a little girl (no offense ladies )
Who else is sick and tired of looking for the next cool rom. It kinda drives me crazy looking for everything I want a nice put together rom that works well. I mean don't get me wrong who doesn't appreciate all the work that goes into putting a rom together, it seems like theirs always something going on to make u look for another. For example moon rom is an awesome rom but it will freeze where I have to take the battery out to reboot. Jedi rom is cool but u have to do alot of other flashing to get gps and the camera to work. All I'm saying is it gets a little frustrating. About a year ago I was super into Android I can name 50 different phones I had. That were all rooted and always looking for the next big rom. I got so sick of trying to find that never ending search for the perfect rom. I gave up and actually gave up and went to apple iphone 5. Never jail broke not really cause is not available to jailbreak but probably wouldn't have even if I could. Just cause I was so sick of running around trying to find the coolest rom. So how bout everyone else?
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Not me.
On my Galaxy Nexus I was running Sourcery and never looked at another ROM.
On my Note 2 I have two favorite TW ROMs and two favorite AOSP ROMs.
That's all I need.
Not really tired and sick but I spend alot of time searching the threads looking for a new rom. I mainly stay on Tw but I always have a backup of Cm. Probably go between them once a week.
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Nothing is ever going to be perfect. If it was, we probably wouldn't be looking for ROMs to flash in the first place!
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Jedi rom is cool but u have to do alot of other flashing to get gps and the camera to work. All I'm saying is it gets a little frustrating.
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I see this a lot, and I had the same problem with Jedi X 14 (13 was fine). The solution, as has been posted and that has worked for me, is to simply make sure you have a lock before you flash. No extra flashing. I can't speak to the camera problems as I have never had any.
I think perhaps a lot of the frustration comes from learning the idiosyncrasies of each "new operating system". From stock to a ROM to IOS to Windows to Linux to Mac OS, there's always a learning curve. I've gone, through various phones, from IOS to Sense to TW to vanilla android and back countless times. If you are constantly switching to find something "better", you're going to be constantly facing a learning curve. For some that's fun, for others it's annoying. For me personally, it can be both! :laugh:
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Who else is sick and tired of life. It kinda drives me crazy looking for everything I want in life. I mean don't get me wrong who doesn't appreciate all the work people do in their life, it seems like theirs always something going on to make u live. For example the eskimo life is an awesome life but you freeze to death. The rich life is cool but you have to do a lot of things to have it. All I'm saying is it gets a little frustrating. About a year ago I was super into life I can name 50 different things i did. That were all fun and i was always lookin for the next big thing. I got so sick of trying to find that never ending search for the perfect life. I gave up and actually gave up and went to the hospital. Never went to jail not really cause is not allowed for me to go to jail but probably wouldn't have even if I could. Just cause I was so sick of running around trying to find the coolest life. So how bout everyone else?
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Right right im sorry cuz life is so much like cell phone operating systems. I cant believe how clever that was to think of all that. Really one has nothing to do with the other. At times it is a little crazy how people like u get over this stuff and u make my point by trying to make someone else feel bad just to make yourself feel superior. Im sure alot of the users can agree that trolls like u get high and mighty about useless info. Please stop for a sec take a breath and relax.
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I think rom flashing is more of an addiction for me. Was perfectly happy with stock....then started the never ending Saga of rom flashing
The only Android phone I never installed any custom rom on was the Galaxy nexus gsm
That phone was awesome on stock.
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abvthegod said:
Who else is sick and tired of looking for the next cool, best rom. It kinda drives me crazy looking for everything I want a nice put together rom that works well. I mean don't get me wrong who doesn't appreciate all the work that goes into putting a rom together, it seems like theirs always something going on to make u look for another. For example moon rom is an awesome rom but it will freeze where I have to take the battery out to reboot. Jedi rom is cool but u have to do alot of other flashing to get gps and the camera to work. All I'm saying is it gets a little frustrating. About a year ago I was super into Android I can name 50 different phones I had. That were all rooted and always looking for the next big rom. I got so sick of trying to find that never ending search for the perfect rom. I gave up and actually gave up and went to apple iphone 5. Never jail broke not really cause is not available to jailbreak but probably wouldn't have even if I could. Just cause I was so sick of running around trying to find the coolest rom. So how bout everyone else?
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I used Jelly 'Beans' ROM on my S3 and I use it on my Note 2. Instead of trying to find the whatever ROM made me the happiest, I went for whatever had the most stable build and most useful features and learned to live with anything I didn't like.
Remember, its just a phone. it won't ever do everything you want, but it will communicate with people. Be happy with that.
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Who else is sick and tired of looking for the next cool, best rom. It kinda drives me crazy looking for everything I want a nice put together rom that works well. I mean don't get me wrong who doesn't appreciate all the work that goes into putting a rom together, it seems like theirs always something going on to make u look for another. For example moon rom is an awesome rom but it will freeze where I have to take the battery out to reboot. Jedi rom is cool but u have to do alot of other flashing to get gps and the camera to work. All I'm saying is it gets a little frustrating. About a year ago I was super into Android I can name 50 different phones I had. That were all rooted and always looking for the next big rom. I got so sick of trying to find that never ending search for the perfect rom. I gave up and actually gave up and went to apple iphone 5. Never jail broke not really cause is not available to jailbreak but probably wouldn't have even if I could. Just cause I was so sick of running around trying to find the coolest rom. So how bout everyone else?
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Boy, your just baiting the trolls and fanboys with this one but I can understand your point of view. I love Android because I get to spend my time looking into the different options that developers put into their ROMs. I think you may be coming off a little disrespectful to the work and time that some of these guys put into what they do... And I want to caution you on that, however you're right, for some devices there is a throng of options to choose from and it may be hard to understand what the real difference is from one developers work to another.
To me, I have developed a trust for developers based on the device OEM I am working with, for Samsung my goto developer is going to be Beans, Scott on HTC... and it's been so long for me on Moto... But to your point.... No I love the research and comparison that comes with all of these options. I have an appreciation for the work that the developers of our community offer to us for free with only the expectation of a donation. I respect the community of users that are always there when I screw something up to answer my questions. Mostly though, it is the fact that I can do so many different things with an Android device... Or choose not do anything to an Android device... that makes it the antithesis of 'sick' or 'tired'.
At the risk of sounding childish, or being viewed as trying to 'one-up' you, and in all seriousness, I genuinely mean this and hope you don't think I am trying to take a shot at you, but iOS is exactly what your answer is. There is no work required to make iOS work the way you want it to because it works the way Apple designed it to work. It is not perfect, and likewise, there is never going to be a perfect ROM for any device... There will never be a perfect device. Is just a matter of what you want. In this case you have what you want. In the great words of that lady who had her head chopped off by her King husband... Let them eat cake!!!
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harajyuks said:
Boy, your just baiting the trolls and fanboys with this one but I can understand your point of view. I love Android because I get to spend my time looking into the different options that developers put into their ROMs. I think you may be coming off a little disrespectful to the work and time that some of these guys put into what they do... And I want to caution you on that, however you're right, for some devices there is a throng of options to choose from and it may be hard to understand what the real difference is from one developers work to another.
To me, I have developed a trust for developers based on the device OEM I am working with, for Samsung my goto developer is going to be Beans, Scott on HTC... and it's been so long for me on Moto... But to your point.... No I love the research and comparison that comes with all of these options. I have an appreciation for the work that the developers of our community offer to us for free with only the expectation of a donation. I respect the community of users that are always there when I screw something up to answer my questions. Mostly though, it is the fact that I can do so many different things with an Android device... Or choose not do anything to an Android device... that makes it the antithesis of 'sick' or 'tired'.
At the risk of sounding childish, or being viewed as trying to 'one-up' you, and in all seriousness, I genuinely mean this and hope you don't think I am trying to take a shot at you, but iOS is exactly what your answer is. There is no work required to make iOS work the way you want it to because it works the way Apple designed it to work. It is not perfect, and likewise, there is never going to be a perfect ROM for any device... There will never be a perfect device. Is just a matter of what you want. In this case you have what you want. In the great words of that lady who had her head chopped off by her King husband... Let them eat cake!!!
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I get it and I think my post might have came off the wrong way. I mean no disrespect to any of the developers. I think all of the work is amazing. Having the first htc google touch smart phone and everything in between might have just burnt me out a little. Maybe just all the different roms mixed in with all the pretentious people just made me ask the question that I did. But ur reply was great and I agree with everything u wrote. Hope I dont waste anyones time.
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Again no disrespect to anyone. Everyone just download roms and have a great time doing it. Thats what its all about. Anf I have donated to many devoplers over the years cuz I do have fun at times and do appreciate the work.
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abvthegod said:
Who else is sick and tired of looking for the next cool, best rom.
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From reading your post, this is how you come off to me.
Seems like no matter how a rom is, you will always complain that there is something wrong with it. If you think all of them have problems, learn how to make your own rom and solve your issue.
Also, if you left android for an iphone, you probably should have stayed with it. Normally posts like this are created by people that like iphones but don't like to openly admit it on xda. So in your position, sell the note2 and go get yourself an iphone so then you have no options except what case you should buy.
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abvthegod said:
Right right im sorry cuz life is so much like cell phone operating systems. I cant believe how clever that was to think of all that. Really one has nothing to do with the other. At times it is a little crazy how people like u get over this stuff and u make my point by trying to make someone else feel bad just to make yourself feel superior. Im sure alot of the users can agree that trolls like u get high and mighty about useless info. Please stop for a sec take a breath and relax.
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its a joke relax
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I have been a crack flasher since the days of old school windows mobile ppc 6600 i believe and have been using android since the og Moto Droid which really jumped it into gear. I was really happy with CM on that phone and when i had a droid2 i was locked down but was a fan of Liberty since they incorporated many of the cm features i liked but once cm7 was released officially that was it. I ended up using that rom on all future devices until I got my Gnex which Aokp took over for me and Team Eos for my Xoom which became my choices for those devices. Aokp is my rom of choice for the Gn2 since i like to support the original devs and their roms are always speedy, stable and has great features and they listened to their supporters and even incoporated S-Pen into the pure asop rom. I'm sure I will try out a few other roms but positive I will go back to what runs the best for speedwise, battery wise and stable which makes life easier.
Of course the option is to learn how to make a ROM and make one that you love