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So far I managed to control the button leds (but the touch function has not working yet):
To turn on :
echo 20 > sys/devices/platform/leds-microp/leds/button-backlight-portrait/brightness
To turn off :
echo 0 > sys/devices/platform/leds-microp/leds/button-backlight-portrait/brightness
Anyone know how to make the capacitive buttons work in HC? If it is working, we can use the buttons when we hide the status bar.
Update as of 28th Dec 2011 : Capacitive buttons has been succesfully enabled by LeeDroid on his HC v2.0.0 kernel. (Thanks LeeDroid for your great effort!!!) Required driver for keys was missing in official HTC HC kernel. I hope HTC will include the driver in their next release.
The bottom bar is considered a permanent screen decoration in the same way that capacitive home/menu/etc. buttons below the touchscreen on Android phones are so there is no option to remove the bar, but there is a call that some apps use to darken the bar like some video players so it not intrusive, but you still lose that part of the screen.
There are hacks and apps for rooted HC that can hide the bar. Not sure you can recover the screen size or just darken the bar. Because the bar is at the system level, such a hack might cause issues with a lot of apps. its the same for all devices running honeycomb.
Also how would you get your notifications, clock, quick settings, etc?
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The bottom bar is considered a permanent screen decoration in the same way that capacitive home/menu/etc. buttons below the touchscreen on Android phones are so there is no option to remove the bar, but there is a call that some apps use to darken the bar like some video players so it not intrusive, but you still lose that part of the screen.
There are hacks and apps for rooted HC that can hide the bar. Not sure you can recover the screen size or just darken the bar. Because the bar is at the system level, such a hack might cause issues with a lot of apps. its the same for all devices running honeycomb.
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You can hide the botom bar using app such as HoneyBar. Hiding the bar really saves space, especially for our small 7" screen. We can enjoy full screen size when browsing, viewing images, watching videos, read ebooks, playing games, etc.
Currently I'm using Button Savior to replace the missing navigation buttons when the bar is hided. But I'm thinking it would be better if we can use the capacitive buttons. (Having 2 sets of capacive buttons is actually a unique feature of HTC Flyer, but it currently useless in HC).
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Also how would you get your notifications, clock, quick settings, etc?
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Hiding bar is temporary, we can back to normal like the HoneyBar app do. If the capacive buttons can work on HC, maybe we can make the app to auto enable the buttons when the bar is hided and disable the buttons when the bar back to normal.
Wondering if there is any update on this ?
This seems like a great idea... even if we dont disable to onscreen buttons, there are TONS of uses for the capacitive buttons!
I would love to be able to use the capacitive buttons and have been hoping someone would figure out a way to enable them in HC. Honeybar works great, but 90% of the stuff I need the bar for the capacitive buttons would work fine for and wouldn't cut into our limited screen size.
Just went back to GB due to this. It's a shame It's not a customizable option on HC
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I think the key has to be in the code for the pen button.
Obviously its not a standard features in HC since its' hardware specific. We would need all the source code from HTC to compile a new HC ROM which we don't have. Someday this might happen, but not yet. You will get used to the HC implementation.
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Obviously its not a standard features in HC since its' hardware specific. We would need all the source code from HTC to compile a new HC ROM which we don't have. Someday this might happen, but not yet. You will get used to the HC implementation.
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That's sad to hear, especially considering the HC implementation is pretty ****ty. Many times in HC you only need the home, menu, back buttons. The majority of time the status bar isn't needed.
No source, no buttons. It's just not worth the effort for any dev.
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No source, no buttons. It's just not worth the effort for any dev.
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So does that mean we could achieve this if someone brings ICS to the Flyer?
No, the hardware buttons are HTC hardware specifc. You would need HTC source. Goggle has no buttons , therefore the system bar that is omni present.
Everyone needs to understand there are a lot of pieces that must be in place to build a working ROM for a device.
When Google throws out a OS version, it works on zero, nada, nothing, no device in the world.
Then the HW makers (HTC, samsung, etc.) have to add their pieces of software to make it work. Kernel, drivers, bootloader, Sense UI, framework, libraries, etc.
HTC has to take ICS and make it work on the hardware. Then if the hardware is similar enough, you might be able to port the ROM to run on another HTC device. But without the source for the HTC specific pieces , you cannot tweak it very much or fix bugs.
but wait can not search for drivers on Rom 2.3
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I have no idea if this info is at all meaningful or not but the Dell 7" Streak got a Dell approved update to HC 3.2 and they managed to keep the hardware capacitive buttons working. And they are handy, in that I agree. It'd be great if the Flyer/View had them working.
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I changed the screen density to over 160... Though Gingerbread ui started, but even there without the sensor buttons... Impossible to navigate
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Flyer.michael said:
I changed the screen density to over 160... Though Gingerbread ui started, but even there without the sensor buttons... Impossible to navigate
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And this is meaningful in what universe???
The buttons are not coming back in HC folks, get over, it. In 3 days use you will forget they were ever there.
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No, the hardware buttons are HTC hardware specifc. You would need HTC source. Goggle has no buttons , therefore the system bar that is omni present.
Everyone needs to understand there are a lot of pieces that must be in place to build a working ROM for a device.
When Google throws out a OS version, it works on zero, nada, nothing, no device in the world.
Then the HW makers (HTC, samsung, etc.) have to add their pieces of software to make it work. Kernel, drivers, bootloader, Sense UI, framework, libraries, etc.
HTC has to take ICS and make it work on the hardware. Then if the hardware is similar enough, you might be able to port the ROM to run on another HTC device. But without the source for the HTC specific pieces , you cannot tweak it very much or fix bugs.
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this is true...for a month now i'm trying to port ICS......we need something from HTC to start....
Hardware Buttons & Calls on Honeycomb
Dear Devs,
Please is there any hope of getting the hardware buttons on the flyer active on HC? Also is it possible for calls to be made; now that the source code has been released by HTC?
Thanks.
I was thinking, for AOSP ICS roms, either an apk could be created, or flashed into roms, that repurposes the menu button as the task switcher button, like on the Galaxy Nexus (Prime). Since the menu "button" is essentially in the app itself, the menu capacitive button becomes superfluous. Also, I've never had a phone or rom where holding down the home button acts as quick as just pressing the TS button on the Nexus Prime.
So, instead of the following buttons:
Home/Menu/Back/Search
We would have:
Home/Task Switcher/Back/Search
I like the idea of making it an app, as some would want to leave the buttons the way they are, whereas others might think this is a good idea. I hope the Cyanogen considers this, and puts this in their "Cyanogen Settings" section.
Here are a couple of threads that talk about the same thing, albiet in different phone forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347998
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315075
Maybe you could use the bottons as quick launch icons. Allow the user to pick apps that the buttons would launch.
i think thats a great idea. i felt the same way when i read the features of ics
it doesnt seem impossible. cm7 already has the option to set program shortcuts for long pressing the the menu or home buttons, etc
Why the menu Button why not the usual home button. Instead of replacing the menu function why not replace the small icons with the ICS running apps manager.
Home & Task Manager/Menu/Back/Search
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Maybe you could use the bottons as quick launch icons. Allow the user to pick apps that the buttons would launch.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Instead of having my 4 most used apps on the bottom of my home screen (Handcent, Facebook, gmail, market) that would be pretty sick to have the captivate button as quick launch buttons for those apps.
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I like the favorite apps at the bottom, id keep that, and even the home and menu and search the way they are, but id want my back button to bring up the multitasker menu when longpressing
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I would say the search button. I never use it and ICS has a dedicated search bar. But yes I agree, now with ICS my next phone will have on screen controls. It looks so nice!
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Personally, I think I'd rather have the screen real estate without the buttons moved to the screen, especially since we have the buttons anyway. That said, I'd be interested to see what could be done with a gesture area down there. Just so long as the on screen buttons are an option that can be turned off returning the capacitive button function.
Guys - We will have no "on-screen" buttons like the Galaxy Nexus does, ICS will use hardware buttons if they are present. So no, you will not have your 4 most used apps, you will have Home|Menu|Back|Search.
Have a good day.
moosh3 said:
Guys - We will have no "on-screen" buttons like the Galaxy Nexus does, ICS will use hardware buttons if they are present. So no, you will not have your 4 most used apps, you will have Home|Menu|Back|Search.
Have a good day.
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^his larger, bold text, has hurt my feelings and trampled on my dreams. I kid, I kid. I like the hardware buttons anyway, the onscreen buttons for nexus ics would take up more room anyway. I got a taste of that using the ics launcher on the market.
moosh3 said:
Guys - We will have no "on-screen" buttons like the Galaxy Nexus does, ICS will use hardware buttons if they are present. So no, you will not have your 4 most used apps, you will have Home|Menu|Back|Search.
Have a good day.
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Did you read the thread? This isn't about "on-screen" buttons. It is about changing the purpose of the existing capacitive buttons to somewhat mirror the functionality of the on-screen buttons on the Galaxy Nexus.
moosh3 said:
Guys - We will have no "on-screen" buttons like the Galaxy Nexus does, ICS will use hardware buttons if they are present. So no, you will not have your 4 most used apps, you will have Home|Menu|Back|Search.
Have a good day.
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Stick with singing Mr. Bieber, trying to sound smart isn't your thing
Support TrevE! Fah Q CIQ!!
Hope everyone is having a good time off!
Just a question I've been wondering the past few days.
Is it possible, for GB and future HC releases (if we get HC capacitive working someday) to make both the portrait and landscape buttons working at the same time?
So that would mean, while on landscape, being able to use the portrait buttons as well as landscape.
Reason I am asking about this is because it allows us, or rather me, to hold the tablet more natively at a non-awkward position. So you could grip both sides in landscape, press the back button there with your thumb without having to move your hand down to the buttons below.
Not to worry, in Honeycomb and ICS the buttons are all disabled by default as they are no longer needed since the on screen system bar replaces those functions. IN GB a clever developer can do anything, but its such a special case, not sure its worth the effort. It's certainly not easy.
DigitalMD said:
Not to worry, in Honeycomb and ICS the buttons are all disabled by default as they are no longer needed since the on screen system bar replaces those functions. IN GB a clever developer can do anything, but its such a special case, not sure its worth the effort. It's certainly not easy.
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Evidently the HC code can be edited to enable the keys; according to a thread about the Dell device that still utilizes the feature. I'd further like to see the system bar disappear, or move to another edge, like windows OS's allows.
With enough time and money, software can be changed by clever developers to do anything including making the buttons flash, rotate and change colors, but for now, there is no option to turn them back on in HTCs HC implementation. Hard buttons are not part of Goggles base software.
HC Hardkeys Mod
Just FYI, this is being implemented in an upcoming Kernal/Rom by LeeDroid.. I was able to find TheManii have a mod and it has lead Lee to 100% hardkeys functionality
I take no responsibility for you breaking or causing issues on your tablet. Do this at your own risk!
Disable your Galaxy Note 8.0 Capacitive Keys
What you will need:
Root
Root explorer or similar program
and Be Careful
First:
Open your root explorer or similar app
navigate to system>usr>keylayout
Second:
Make backup of sec_touchscreen.kl
Third
This step has been, found to be not needed. Skip to step 4!
Fourth:
Open sec_touchscreen.kl
find line:
key 158 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
and place a # in front of it like:
# key 158 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
then find line:
key 139 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
and place a # in front of it like:
# key 139 BACK WAKE_DROPPED
Save your changes and close the file
reboot your tablet, and you are finished.
Your capacitive buttons will not respond to your fingers, but retain functionality with the s-pen.
ENJOY!
step 3 was not needed for this guide to work!
Hey ual4720, thanks for the great guide,this is the sort of stuff we need to get some development started for our tablet.
That's more of a how-to, a mod means flashing something
will there be custom roms coming?
Thai Damen said:
will there be custom roms coming?
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I woud say yes, considering it's the same specs powering the Galaxy Note 10.1 (at least, i'm betting on this )
I'm actually sort of surprised someone hasn't tried flashing one of the Galaxy Note 10.1 roms on the Note 8 (I'm not recommending this, i'm not a developer. Just surprised no one (big kahuna's) tried this).
I can't wait until someone figures out how to make this a quick option on the drop down menu so we can toggle the keys on and off based on what we're doing
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Just to be clear - this is only suppose to disable the capacitive function of the hardware buttons, not enable the virtual on-screen buttons or anything (the latter was what I was hoping for)? Don't mean to diminish the value of the first mod to appear on this forum - I just don't quite understand the use case for this. Thanks!
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Just to be clear - this is only suppose to disable the capacitive function of the hardware buttons, not enable the virtual on-screen buttons or anything (the latter was what I was hoping for)? Don't mean to diminish the value of the first mod to appear on this forum - I just don't quite understand the use case for this. Thanks!
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I use my tablet in landscape a lot! I found it was hard to hold the tablet with both hands because I kept hitting the Capacitive keys. this is my way of solving that! I thought I would Share it.
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I hope it didn't sound like I was criticizing the patch. I was genuinely interested in how people were using this - we all have our own ways of doing things. For example, the hardware buttons have turned out to be more convenient than I expected for me because I use the tablet in bed a lot, and I find it's easier to touch the buttons if I hold the tablet upside down, so the buttons are at the top. With virtual buttons, they'd just move themselves back to the bottom!
Thanks, working good with LMT launcher.
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I woud say yes, considering it's the same specs powering the Galaxy Note 10.1 (at least, i'm betting on this )
I'm actually sort of surprised someone hasn't tried flashing one of the Galaxy Note 10.1 roms on the Note 8 (I'm not recommending this, i'm not a developer. Just surprised no one (big kahuna's) tried this).
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Similar specs, but different. If you tried flashing a ROM you'd softbrick your device. There are a number of devs working on ports and I'm sure we will be seeing customs appearing soon in the future.
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Thanks a lot for sharing detail information about the Galaxy Note. This will be helpful for me to developing stuff.
Hello all,
after disabling capacitive keys, install GMD gesture control to get the same through customized swipes.
Now SNote will work without being annoyed by keys at the end of the page
Hi all,
I kinda like the HW buttons and I wished they were real buttons rather than capacitive.
Is there a way to disable them ONLY in certain apps? I would like them to be disabled when I use S notes only.
Also,
the mod mentions "Your capacitive buttons will not respond to your fingers, but retain functionality with the s-pen."
So I can actually still use the buttons using the Spen?
Thanks!
For those who tried this, I wonder what app do you use to simulate the "back" and "menu" button WITHOUT using the Stylus?
I'd love to disable the capacitive keys, but there are times when I need to bring up the menu or go back WITHOUT taking out the Stylus and drawing the gesture.
lanwarrior said:
For those who tried this, I wonder what app do you use to simulate the "back" and "menu" button WITHOUT using the Stylus?
I'd love to disable the capacitive keys, but there are times when I need to bring up the menu or go back WITHOUT taking out the Stylus and drawing the gesture.
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i use apps gesture control. can get it from playstore. the free version is sufficient for daily use unless you want to make custom gesture. go for pro.
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Hello all,
after disabling capacitive keys, install GMD gesture control to get the same through customized swipes.
Now SNote will work without being annoyed by keys at the end of the page
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Good day. Could you explain "get the same through customized swipes?"
Do you mean it's possible to toggle the editing or renaming of the "sec_touchscreen.kl" file?
Even if you do this, will you need to restart every time?
theraker007 said:
I can't wait until someone figures out how to make this a quick option on the drop down menu so we can toggle the keys on and off based on what we're doing
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I 2nd this.:good:
I'm using the unofficial CM 10.2 for the note and have deactivated both buttons, but they are still glowing. Is there a way to deactivate this too?
kingofcomedy said:
I'm using the unofficial CM 10.2 for the note and have deactivated both buttons, but they are still glowing. Is there a way to deactivate this too?
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Try in the Setting, where you can disable it.
Is it me or does having the soft keys eat up a strong 1/4" of the screen negate the larger screen?
I have used the program to auto hide them but every time I type a text they pop up and take be back, home or wherever depending on how I have the layout set.
In addition, the text messaging viewable area is smaller given these keys and continually hides the last messages.
Something tells me I am not going to get used to not having a physical home key and off screen menu and back keys.
Thoughts / Opinions?
Have you considered re-sizing them? G2 Xposed can do that if I remember correctly, and if you're on an AOSP-based rom Gravity Box can do it if that functionality is not included in the ROM. You can make them quite small, which may look a tad strange at first but in terms of actual use I think it's completely natural, considering any off-screen buttons would be below the screen anyway. I currently run them at about half height, and you can pretty easily get away with even less than that if you wanted to. I used to prefer hardware keys as well but in time I grew to like soft keys. I like how you can try all sorts of different sizes, button combinations and button layouts, to the point that I have even used soft keys of phones that did not initially have them. Try some different sizes and setups before giving up on them altogether.
DHM078 said:
Have you considered re-sizing them? G2 Xposed can do that if I remember correctly, and if you're on an AOSP-based rom Gravity Box can do it if that functionality is not included in the ROM. You can make them quite small, which may look a tad strange at first but in terms of actual use I think it's completely natural, considering any off-screen buttons would be below the screen anyway. I currently run them at about half height, and you can pretty easily get away with even less than that if you wanted to. I used to prefer hardware keys as well but in time I grew to like soft keys. I like how you can try all sorts of different sizes, button combinations and button layouts, to the point that I have even used soft keys of phones that did not initially have them. Try some different sizes and setups before giving up on them altogether.
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Thanks Kindly.
I had been searching for something like this but for whatever reason didn't find it.
Love the call quality on the phone and this may just be the answer
The soft keys also keep the size of the phone down. Otherwise it would be a butt hurt Note 3 . This phone is a perfect size.
What app are you using to hide them? I'm using GMD Auto Hide.. The paid version. I never accidentally bring up the software icons while texting. Did you know you can adjust the area that triggers the software keys? I have mine set to a tiny area across the bottom of the screen.
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Also currently enjoying GMD auto hide PRO
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is that possible the Soft Keys to change smaller???
profeet said:
is that possible the Soft Keys to change smaller???
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READ, man.
DHM078 said:
Have you considered re-sizing them? G2 Xposed can do that if I remember correctly, and if you're on an AOSP-based rom Gravity Box can do it if that functionality is not included in the ROM. You can make them quite small, which may look a tad strange at first but in terms of actual use I think it's completely natural, considering any off-screen buttons would be below the screen anyway. I currently run them at about half height, and you can pretty easily get away with even less than that if you wanted to. I used to prefer hardware keys as well but in time I grew to like soft keys. I like how you can try all sorts of different sizes, button combinations and button layouts, to the point that I have even used soft keys of phones that did not initially have them. Try some different sizes and setups before giving up on them altogether.
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UDN Pro
I'm using Ultimate Dynamic Navbar Pro to hide the navigation bar. It takes some getting used to, but now I wouldn't have a phone without it.
You can set different triggers to show/hide the nav keys, I prefer sliding at the bottom of the screen to show the keys. With this you can also customize your buttons in many ways; glow effect, key color, keys sizes, fade effect and so on.
There's a free version available on Play Store, so give it a try.
Then there's pie to...
Or what I do, is:
Root (of course)
Download "texDroider" from the Play Store to change the DPI from 480 (default) to 400. Reboot. Enjoy MOAR SPACE
If you want to actually resize the NavBar to make it thinner:
Download the TWRP Recovery image using your phone that is designed for your version model
Download "Flashify" from the Play Store and select the TWRP Recovery file you downloaded (Probably in the "Downloads" folder on your Storage)
Reboot
Then look in the Development threads for a NavBar size mod, download the MEDIUM or SMALL. I use Medium with 400 DPI, else I'd use Small with 480 DPI
Reboot into TWRP and flash the NavBar Mod.
Rejoice
OR
Search for, and download, XPosed APK file from XDA, then install the APK
Search for and download the XPosed G2 Settings Module, then install the APK
Launch XPosed, enable the G2 Settings Module, resize NavBar
OR Hide them as previously said but I don't much care for this. It gets annoying pretty quick IMO. I move around too quick to require extra taps or swipes to go back or home.