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Hey all, I'm on AOKP ICS 4.0.3 (I think). My vibrant is running low on memory like all the time, and it's running pretty slow and everything's force closing. I know there's a way to swap data/data onto a larger partition, but I don't want anything slower. Should I switch back to GB, or what?
Thanks!
try Team Passion Chimera or MIUI V4 works pretty well
Use ram booster since you can always clean your ram with a red/blue bar which is small but if you touch it, it will clean the ram. You can also use ram swapper which can make ram partitions as large as 2.5 gigs but the only thing that problems it is the bad English and German implemented.
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So far I've found Slim ICS to be great on RAM usage. I haven't tried Chimera but I hear good things about it too. You can also try using a program like Autostarts or AutoKiller Memory to fine-tune what apps are running and how much RAM your system will try to keep free.
Super Manager has a built in memory cleanup. You can set the RAM limit to whatever you desire and it will auto-kill tasks and free up RAM when it hits your set limit.
Been using it for a year, since CM7 gingerbread
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I came from a blackberry where gutting the os is a way of life.
What all can be removed without affecting function, while freeing up space?
So far, from system/apps, I have dropped most of the live wallpapers and apps I don't use
I have tried deleting ringtones I don't use but that put me into a boot loop and had to wipe and reload.
Any ideas on how to safely delete more useless files?
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it really doesn't gain you anything other than a placebo effect if you are used to devices with less than sufficient memory. The Dx2 has lots of memory and CM9 doesn't come with bloatware.
DigitalMD said:
it really doesn't gain you anything other than a placebo effect if you are used to devices with less than sufficient memory. The Dx2 has lots of memory and CM9 doesn't come with bloatware.
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Really?
From what I have already cleaned up I can tell a difference is less lock ups already. The available ram went from 86% used to 69%
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Freezing some apps will free RAM, especially on services you don't use if those apps run by default. However the live wallpaper apk is not running if you aren't using one from that package, therefore it is redundant. If you don't use corporate exchange, try freezing the email.apk and the exchange.apk. If you feel adventurous, nandroid your cm9 and freeze all the apps that don't look important. If you get stuck with a bootloop, simply nandroid back. Simple.
I recommend freezing RomManager (we can't use it).
It wont free up RAM, but it will stop Google Play from updating it.
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What I have been doing is each morning I freeze one app, I use my phone all day and if there are no problems I delete it the next morning and freeze a new one.
So far I think I've done some good with my phone since I have deleted everything I can from the system folder.
The trick to deleting ringtones is confirm all profiles are set to the same ringer and notification. Then delete all the others.
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Really?
From what I have already cleaned up I can tell a difference is less lock ups already. The available ram went from 86% used to 69%
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Well then you have done something amazing, since the Android memory manage strives to keep RAM around 80% full all the time, by design and that's how it works best. If you remove every single app you should be able to achieve around 90% free and everything should run like liquid butter. And yes, this Alpha is more stable if you do not touch the phone or run anything.
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Well then you have done something amazing, since the Android memory manage strives to keep RAM around 80% full all the time, by design and that's how it works best. If you remove every single app you should be able to achieve around 90% free and everything should run like liquid butter. And yes, this Alpha is more stable if you do not touch the phone or run anything.
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Grab a 50lbs weight and go run up a hill. Now do it again with 20lbs. What's easier running with more useless weight or less?
I loaded a task manager widget that shows percentage of memory used (ram) i went from 60/404 to 123/404 after dropping useless files.
With all due respect the Android OS is nothing more than an Iphone with Blackberry problems. I have used all 3 i like Droid best but it has room for improvement, as everything does.
Im applying what i learned from the BBos to this one and it appears to work. Now you can be a negative fly on the wall all you want but someone else will read this topic and try it. Once a few do it and my results are duplicated you'll see it was useful to try something
Plus what's the worst that happens, you boot loop and have to reload?
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Just a little check in.
I booted up this morning at 193/404 that's using 52% ram
I took everything out of system/apps i could and cleaned any app off my phone i don't or can't use. I also enabled "long hold back button to kill apps" instead of jumping back to the home screen when im done in an app i kill it.
All the above are habits i learned to service on a blackberry.
I wish more people would try and get my results.
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with all due respect unless you have rewritten the Android OS, it simply doesn't work like that.
. Android likes to keep memory about 70-80 % full once it settles so that when it needs a task you were using before its faster to reactivate it than to load from scratch. You can kill things, but the OS will load them again anyway. If you fight that with 3rd party mem / task managers, it will degrade performance, not improve it. But if you insist on believing some fantasy about memory management. by all means ....
Maybe im wording this wrong.
Would it help if i changed the title to gutting an android.
I love CM9, ive even bought the developer a case of beer. Hahaha
Im not doubting what the system wants to do. Im just trying to guide it better by removing worthless files and managing ram with white and black lists.
For example I dont need dropbox to be running in the background when im not using it.
Make sense
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JStiner said:
Maybe im wording this wrong.
Would it help if i changed the title to gutting an android.
I love CM9, ive even bought the developer a case of beer. Hahaha
Im not doubting what the system wants to do. Im just trying to guide it better by removing worthless files and managing ram with white and black lists.
For example I dont need dropbox to be running in the background when im not using it.
Make sense
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You will notice a big Jump in performance if you stop using a task manager.
You are better off playing with min free values and oom adj values.
I understand removing apps and files you don't use, I.do the same thing on my nexus.
But when it comes down to it, the task manager app is REALLY doing more harm than good. Of course when you use the task manager its going to seem like its doing what you want it to, thats how the apps are written, so that you FEEL like you're getting results you want.
Fact is, task managers haven't been needed in android OS for a log time now. Most ESPECIALLY if you are running an ICS based rom.
Trust me, if you wanna see an increase in overall smoothness, mess with min free and oom settings, and dump the task manager.
Or just keep doing what you're doing, just don't get offended when almost everyone tells you that clearing apps from memory and using task manager to kill apps is doing more harm then good.
There is a HUGE difference between an app RUNNING in background, and an app being cached in RAM. If you go to your manage apps list in settings and go to running apps, you most likely won't have many apps actually running and hogging system resources. If you switch to the cached tab you SHOULD see lots of apps in cache. Which means next time you open them it will open faster and use A LOT LESS CPU to get it going.
I do agree with getting rid of appd and files you don't use tho. I have ALWAYS felt that removing apps that are cached in ram that I do not use, will give more space for apps that I DO use to be cached.
But a task manager will not grant you that ability.
I feel like i learned something new today
Thank you
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I feel like i learned something new today
Thank you
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I also just wanna apologize, I didnt mean to come off condescending (I just re read what I posted Lol)
was just trying to inform a bit.
Any questions don't hesitate to ask. Android operates like.Linux, but not EXACTLY like Linux even tho it is VERY similar. A good thread to read on how is memory management works is the official v6supercharger thread started by zeppelinrox. That guy has torn thru the android os on the memory management level and his first few posts in that thread(even tho they may not make the most sense to you at first) have a LOT of valuable info in them.
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I also just wanna apologize, I didnt mean to come off condescending (I just re read what I posted Lol)
was just trying to inform a bit.
Any questions don't hesitate to ask. Android operates like.Linux, but not EXACTLY like Linux even tho it is VERY similar. A good thread to read on how is memory management works is the official v6supercharger thread started by zeppelinrox. That guy has torn thru the android os on the memory management level and his first few posts in that thread(even tho they may not make the most sense to you at first) have a LOT of valuable info in them.
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No harm done. Tone is hard to convey through text. I read everything in a mono tone voice ans pull from it what i need.
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Holy hell v6supercharger is the way to go, my music doesn't skip anymore.
Now if i could just get my home and back button switched back hahaha.
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could try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403013
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could try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403013
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Genius, i flipped a few numbers around and it works normal again.
Never would have figured that out.
Thank you.
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Holy hell v6supercharger is the way to go, my music doesn't skip anymore.
Now if i could just get my home and back button switched back hahaha.
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Did you also turn on the option.in v6supercharger for the nitro lag nullifier also? It used to be option #20 i believe.
I always did and i swear, (placebo or not), it used to smooth out everything even more.
Then on top of v6, i would also run Kick ass kernelizer(KAK) with. I/O tweaks implemented (make a nandroid first just in case it bootloops ya..if it bootloops just pull battery and.put back in then plug phone into wall,.it will.boot BSR(since our bsr hijacks charge.mode) & you can restore nandroid) and it would be even more buttery.
Enjoy!
I'm glad I could help turn you away from task managers/killers
Your Android experience should improve greatly
Did the kak at lunch. Running nicely so far.
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JStiner said:
Holy hell v6supercharger is the way to go, my music doesn't skip anymore.
Now if i could just get my home and back button switched back hahaha.
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Did cm9 switch the buttons? I've been wanting to flash either cm9 or paranoid android just haven't had time to yet.
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Which ROM has the most available ram? I would really like to know because on CM10, I get like 80mb idle.
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Hellybean has a decent amount of room
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Helly bean gives me 100-120 mb of ram with min apps
slimbean given me up to 150 - 120 ram
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Just wondering why you want free ram? I remember reading somewhere that android runs better with most of the ram used and that theres really little reason to skimp on ram usage..
Just my opinion
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Just wondering why you want free ram? I remember reading somewhere that android runs better with most of the ram used and that theres really little reason to skimp on ram usage..
Just my opinion
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I've read that too somewhere, however I've found that post to be incorrect. In fact, the less free RAM I have available, the slower my device gets and the music lags as well. I think that Android actually runs worse with less ram free.
Anyway, that isn't the point here. Back to OP. On slimbean, I can get between. 150 - 180 MB of RAM available. Total RAM is 392 on semaphore 2.0.7sv.
Helly Bean:
Just noticed, 20+ hours since last charge/reboot with 47% battery (1800 MAh) remaining!
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If you wanna keep a lot of free ram just go in to (system settings/developer options/) and then check (dont keep activities) it will free a lot of memory, but one thing I notice is when I open the browser and watch a video, when I go back to to the browser, it send me back to my homepage of the browser, so I dont know if that is gonna be a problem with you...
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If you wanna keep a lot of free ram just go in to (system settings/developer options/) and then check (dont keep activities) it will free a lot of memory, but one thing I notice is when I open the browser and watch a video, when I go back to to the browser, it send me back to my homepage of the browser, so I dont know if that is gonna be a problem with you...
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Alternatively you could set background process limit to 2, or even 1.
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Hello,
I would like to discuss and ask why the newest rom from cyanogenmod team, cm10, is using a lot of RAM om the galaxy s2.
By a lot, I mean buckets of RAM. If you look at your app management settings you will see that it uses up to 630+ of MegaBytes!! And the phone itself only has about 1 GB of it. Because of this heavy usage of the memory the phone gets laggy, the smoothness of the whole system is terrorized by this heavily usage of RAM memory.
The only option is to reset the phone and then the usage goes back to normal again.
Could someone explain why this is?
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Hello,
I would like to discuss and ask why the newest rom from cyanogenmod team, cm10, is using a lot of RAM om the galaxy s2.
By a lot, I mean buckets of RAM. If you look at your app management settings you will see that it uses up to 630+ of MegaBytes!! And the phone itself only has about 1 GB of it. Because of this heavy usage of the memory the phone gets laggy, the smoothness of the whole system is terrorized by this heavily usage of RAM memory.
The only option is to reset the phone and then the usage goes back to normal again.
Could someone explain why this is?
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There memory leak in CM10. it's a known bug, that's why it's still in beta.
The only way you can fix this is:
1. by using a Ram manager
or
2. By using a patched services.jar for your ROM, made by Dorimanx
Hi,
I have the same RAM problems, i'll try the fixed services. Thanks
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Samsung galaxy s3 just has 779mb ram
When I open the up to applications like Facebook and whatsapp they run In background so the ram I have on average is 600-650mb/779 mb any solution?
And after clearing ram it goes upto 550mb (400mb using memory booster) but after 5 mins it's 600+mb
Any solution
And any one using polland official jelly bean. Rom please tell me your your average ram consumption
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there is many threads in regard to this plz search
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Whats the problem mate. There are still plenty of free ram. Like 150+ mb free. Android likes to not clean out everyrhimg evertime you leave a program. It makes it faster to reopen them. Its not a bug, its a feature.
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No after my ram is 650mb + my home screen shut down so every time I press home button the home screen restarts
Takes about 5 secs to go to home screen
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What firmware are you on? i think that home issue was fixed sometime ago..?
Android likes to use all the RAM available, it isn't your normal windows PC where FREE ram is better.. On Android, free RAM is wasted RAM.
Three things:
1.) Listen to these guys.
2.) Uninstall memory booster and other retarded, memory related apps.
3.) Search before posting.
That is all.
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The default firmware (updated)
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The default firmware (updated)
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Update to XXDLIB Jelly Bean ROM. Use ODIN. You have 833 MB total RAM and the redraws issue is gone.
And yes, you need to search. Google is your best friend, you know.
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Update to XXDLIB Jelly Bean ROM. Use ODIN. You have 833 MB total RAM and the redraws issue is gone.
And yes, you need to search. Google is your best friend, you know.
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Its not gone. Happens on my LIB firmware since 2 days. Been on LIB since release.
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Have no redraw at all... if your rooted think about removing kiesexe. If not turn off ripple effect that also helps
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If you're under Windows (XP/7), you'll see in performance tab in task manager that most of your physical memory is not free, it's either used by programs or 'cache'.
Most of great operating systems do this, they cache something in free RAM so you'll take much less time opening a process. But in Android it doesn't show 'Available RAM' which is RAM that can be used for 'more process', it just show 'free RAM' whereas it's neither used by a process or cache.
Judge by the above sentences, free RAM is wasted RAM.
You are right but my home screen shuts down because other application. Takes more ram
And according to my task manager Facebook And chrome are most ram consuming Bo sum upto in 150+mb
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You are right but my home screen shuts down because other application. Takes more ram
And according to my task manager Facebook And chrome are most ram consuming Bo sum upto in 150+mb
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The issue isn't because you are using more RAM, well kinda.
The system will close other apps to free RAM, the issue with the old stock firmwares, the Launcher can be removed by this and that causes the redraw.
Could be easily fixed.
RAM issue persistent
Galaxy S3 is my first Android smartphone. I jumped the boat [from iPhone] because I was blown away by my brother's S2. I spent nights playing with his phone when he got it (15 months ago). But boy Galaxy S3 got serious problem, with RAM. I don't buy "free RAM is wasted RAM". Apps don't stay in background, launcher redraws, phone gets sluggish, notification shade takes multiple seconds to respond to pull-down. iPhone didn't had any of these problems. Heck S2 don't have any of these problems. There's something seriously wrong with Galaxy S3's RAM management. I'm running 4.2.1 official Samsung firmware, its worse than ever. I really hope they improve the architecture on Galaxy S4. Other than that, and horrible battery life, the things this phone does is incredible. But its getting pretty annoying now, to constantly reboot the phone to clear the RAM.
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Galaxy S3 is my first Android smartphone. I jumped the boat [from iPhone] because I was blown away by my brother's S2. I spent nights playing with his phone when he got it (15 months ago). But boy Galaxy S3 got serious problem, with RAM. I don't buy "free RAM is wasted RAM". Apps don't stay in background, launcher redraws, phone gets sluggish, notification shade takes multiple seconds to respond to pull-down. iPhone didn't had any of these problems. Heck S2 don't have any of these problems. There's something seriously wrong with Galaxy S3's RAM management. I'm running 4.2.1 official Samsung firmware, its worse than ever. I really hope they improve the architecture on Galaxy S4. Other than that, and horrible battery life, the things this phone does is incredible. But its getting pretty annoying now, to constantly reboot the phone to clear the RAM.
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Won't really care if you don't believe in science. If you're really desperate to free RAM, disable some system apps you don't use. Android manufacturers do have a tendency to overload their phones with too many features no one needs.
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Try greenify
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asrarahmed said:
its getting pretty annoying now, to constantly reboot the phone to clear the RAM.
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why not just go to recent apps>task manager>ram>clear memory?
sent from where i'm at.
I used to have the redraw problem with all my launchers.
Rooted my s3, put V6 supercharger script to work, it does wonders!
No more redraw (I mean really, 0 redraws in 1 month, heavy ram usage!)
Try it!
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try memory cleaner. i am using it and it frees the memory when u need to
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Samsung galaxy s3 just has 779mb ram
When I open the up to applications like Facebook and whatsapp they run In background so the ram I have on average is 600-650mb/779 mb any solution?
And after clearing ram it goes upto 550mb (400mb using memory booster) but after 5 mins it's 600+mb
Any solution
And any one using polland official jelly bean. Rom please tell me your your average ram consumption
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To be honest, I don't know why you're using such such (I'll put it as nice as possible) bad... app. Every Facebook for Android user knows that the app's no good. I suggest you get a different one (I've forgotten the app they mentioned in the portal post.. :silly
There's no coming around the fact that you've "only" got ca. 700MB free RAM at any one time. Especially if you're using stock Sammy ROMs. You have to think about all the features they implemented, and especially their heavily bloated T-Wiz interface. I mean, it's really nice and all that, but it just nerfs the actual potential of the hardware. I suggest getting a custom ROM and/or a custom kernel. (And Chainfire's Trangle Away app)
Hope I could help!
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