[Q] Weren't Wacom pen supposed to work on the Note? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

Thought I read that since that Wacom tablet stylus / pens would work on the Note. My bamboo one does not

My older Intuos tablet pen doesn't work, either... However, the pen for my Motion Computing LE1600 (also a Wacom screen) does work.

The pen from my HP 2730p works great. The more interesting part though is that the back of the pen (eraser) works as well! so you can just flip it around and do a little erasing real quick, I did not have to tweak any settings to achieve this, it just works. This is surprising considering the S Pen has no such ability.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22776895
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Alternate stylus

Has anyone tried the old cross stylus from the tabletpc days? I have one I used with my HP TC1100 and would love to use it instead of paying the extra $80. I also have two other stylus that came with different tablets that I'm going to take to best buy and try out. Please let me know if anyone has tried any other active digitizer stylus yet.
No luck with my Monoprice tablet pen
I'm not sure but I went on N-trig website, and as far as I understand they only sell their Pens to OEM manufacturers, not to the public
I bought mine at best, I think expansys has it for $59.99 if I'm not mistaken.
The N-Trig stylus for the HP Slate 500 and the new Fujitsu Q550 windows 7 tablet pcs will work on the Flyer. I have not been able to get the HTC stylus as my best buy does not have it and I don't think it is available online yet. So I am using those stylus and they work perfectly except only have the highlight button and not the erase button.
3Labs said:
The N-Trig stylus for the HP Slate 500 and the new Fujitsu Q550 windows 7 tablet pcs will work on the Flyer. I have not been able to get the HTC stylus as my best buy does not have it and I don't think it is available online yet. So I am using those stylus and they work perfectly except only have the highlight button and not the erase button.
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How's the palm rejection? Are there options to control the N-Trig digitizer like on the HP Slate or the Fujitsu? For example, if I set my Slate to "auto," it only accepts pen input until I double tap with my finger.
Palm Rejection flat out sucks. It does not seem to disable the capacitive buttons
kaze00 said:
Palm Rejection flat out sucks. It does not seem to disable the capacitive buttons
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Are there any options to control the N-Trig digitizer?
Palm rejection as it is usually talked about is perfect for me--but the capacitive button can be a hassle. If you touch the screen with the pen first, I think it disables the capacitive buttons too. I can touch with pen and then write and drag my hand all over the capacitive buttons and have no effect. If I do not touch with pen first, then it can be a problem.
I tested again. Once pen touches and you are writing the capacitive buttons do not work. I even pressed them directly with my other hand and got no effect.
3Labs said:
Palm rejection as it is usually talked about is perfect for me--but the capacitive button can be a hassle. If you touch the screen with the pen first, I think it disables the capacitive buttons too. I can touch with pen and then write and drag my hand all over the capacitive buttons and have no effect. If I do not touch with pen first, then it can be a problem.
I tested again. Once pen touches and you are writing the capacitive buttons do not work. I even pressed them directly with my other hand and got no effect.
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I have had the same experience. I will say it seems that you have to either touch the pen to the screen or put the pen really close before palm rejection even happens. I've become accustom to resting my hand on the bezel and then starting to right.
3Labs said:
The N-Trig stylus for the HP Slate 500 and the new Fujitsu Q550 windows 7 tablet pcs will work on the Flyer. I have not been able to get the HTC stylus as my best buy does not have it and I don't think it is available online yet. So I am using those stylus and they work perfectly except only have the highlight button and not the erase button.
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CompUSA has the Q550 Stylus Part number FPCPN36AP for $23.99 http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7108491&CatId=215
No luck using my old Windows Styli.
A.T. Cross stylus does not work
Lenovo X43(?) stylus does not work.
Fujitsu Lifebook 5010 stylus does not work either.
HTC magic stylus does not work on the above Fujitsu either.
bummer
The Flyer's stylus is an active digitizer. That's why it's battery-powered. The ones that come on tablet notebooks these days often use Wacom's digitizer, which doesn't require a battery (so the screen is supplying the signal that the pen interacts with).
The last tablet pc that I used that used a similar battery-powered digitizer was HP's TC1100. That's the only other stylus that has any chance of working. (edit: stupid me, see post below.)
N-trig battery operated pens will work. The pens for the HP Slate 500, and the Fujitsu Q550 and Motion CL900 should all work. Fujitsu pen is easiest to order and is much much cheaper than HTC pen. It does not have the erase button though.
Fujitsu pen on HP Slate 500
I see that Fujitsu's pen with the part number FPCPN36AP is mentioned. Does anybody know if it works with the HP Slate 500? I am considering using one of those instead of the stock pen because:
1. It is not battery-operated.
2. Battery-operated pens seem to have a high failure rate. The frustration that this causes is demonstrated well by Flying Bear Entertainment's game Insaniquarium.
My fpcpn36ap requires a battery.
That is odd because I contacted Fujitsu directly and was informed that that pen is made of plastic and is not battery-operated.
Has anyone tried the pen from a Wacom Cintiq display?
pyro530 said:
Has anyone tried the pen from a Wacom Cintiq display?
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N-trig and wacom are going head to head on pen technology. It would surprise me if any wacom pens work with the Flyer... But it would be worth a shot.
Not Reverse Compatible
They are not reverse compatible. The tablet PC that I used prior to the HP slate 500, uses Wacom's technology and my father tested this.

Adonit Jot

Has anyone used this stylus for the flyer? Is it compatible with the Flyer's software? OR will I have to buy the HTC Scribe pen for full compatibility?
I have a flyer with the pen. I have tried other pens of the capacitive design and they all have worked to some extent. I have not received my Jot yet so I can't respond directly to how well it will work but I do know that there is not much chance it will work as well as the flyer pen and I know the Jot will not be able to take advantage of the special feartures built into the flyer for the flyer pen. However! there are several google play android apps that will provide most if not all the abilities of the built in apps on the flyer.
The jot will suck compared to the scribe. Its just a capacitive stylus (like using your finger) and nothing like the scribe.
If you want a scribe alternative, look at fugitsu and dells pens. Search this forum for info on what type of pen... they are around 20$ and work great.
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Wacom Pens compatible with the Note

Just want to say that all the replacement Wacom pens i've purchased for my Asus EP121 tablet (12.1" Windows 7 Tablet with Capacative/Wacom input like the Note) work just fine on the note And much more comfortable to use than the S-Pen (haven't tried with the holder)
The three i've tested are the stock pen that comes with EP121, the Axiotron Studio, and the Axiotron Digitizer. Picked them up from here: http://www.nationwidesurplus.com/casearch.aspx?SearchTerm=wacom+pen with a 10% discount or so from a coupon code a few months back.
This is going to make it even harder not to carry my tablet with the note since I can tether the tablet to it..
I think any "Wacom Penenabled" pen will work with the device. I've noticed that so far that the eraser works, but the 2nd button does not.
do you know if the pressure sensitivity is more accurate with the wacom pens? The s-pen (at least mine) has almost no travel, seems like off and on.
Da_G said:
Just want to say that all the replacement Wacom pens i've purchased for my Asus EP121 tablet (12.1" Windows 7 Tablet with Capacative/Wacom input like the Note) work just fine on the note And much more comfortable to use than the S-Pen (haven't tried with the holder)
The three i've tested are the stock pen that comes with EP121, the Axiotron Studio, and the Axiotron Digitizer. Picked them up from here: http://www.nationwidesurplus.com/casearch.aspx?SearchTerm=wacom+pen with a 10% discount or so from a coupon code a few months back.
This is going to make it even harder not to carry my tablet with the note since I can tether the tablet to it..
I think any "Wacom Penenabled" pen will work with the device. I've noticed that so far that the eraser works, but the 2nd button does not.
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I didn't even think to try this out. My pen from a HP tx2500 works too! The eraser, pressure sensitivity, and the button works. its a lot easier to use too. Thanks
farmercyst said:
I didn't even think to try this out. My pen from a HP tx2500 works too! The eraser, pressure sensitivity, and the button works. its a lot easier to use too. Thanks
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I didn't even think about this possibility. I have a similar HP laptop with the touch and pen. Forget which model exactly, I have a new laptop now. However, if the pen works with the note when I get it, I'm going to constantly carry it with me unless I'm wearing basketball shorts or sweatpants, as the pen that came with my laptop is a great size and has some weight to it. Thanks for reminding me!
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i noticed last week that the wacom stylus for my Fujitsu T4220 works on the Note. i agree with OP, sounds like all wacom stylus' will work with the Note.
and yes, pressure sensitivity is noticed on the Note by this wacom stylus from my Fujitsu...so they probably all do that.
All my thinkpad tablet pens work.
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My Intuos2 doesn't work. I'll have to try Intuos3/Cintiq next time I'm at my friend's studio. Any way to disable non-pen drawing input on the S Memo app?
Wacom Intuos4 stylii also don't work on the Note, ah well.
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Da_G said:
This is going to make it even harder not to carry my tablet with the note since I can tether the tablet to it..
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Just wait till the Asus tabletfone comes out or whatever the hell its gonna be called. Going to be nice not needing to tether between devices anymore.
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Da_G said:
Just want to say that all the replacement Wacom pens i've purchased for my Asus EP121 tablet (12.1" Windows 7 Tablet with Capacative/Wacom input like the Note) work just fine on the note And much more comfortable to use than the S-Pen (haven't tried with the holder)
The three i've tested are the stock pen that comes with EP121, the Axiotron Studio, and the Axiotron Digitizer. Picked them up from here: http://www.nationwidesurplus.com/casearch.aspx?SearchTerm=wacom+pen with a 10% discount or so from a coupon code a few months back.
This is going to make it even harder not to carry my tablet with the note since I can tether the tablet to it..
I think any "Wacom Penenabled" pen will work with the device. I've noticed that so far that the eraser works, but the 2nd button does not.
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I think you are right
I own an HP Tx2500 and i pulled the pen out of it last night for fun... it also has a clicking button, much like the note...i was able to take a screenshot and pull up the S memo, just like i was using the S Pen. pretty neat
Anybody considering buying a high quality wacom pen? I think if I end up using the S Pen enough that I could see myself buying this:
https://www.wacom.com/en/Store/Pages/Product.aspx?product=KP1302&crumb={A8DA06FA-349A-4FF4-A998-DF0429E676DF}
It's damn expensive, but if I could find a deal somewhere I would definitely drop some cash on one.
welchertc said:
Anybody considering buying a high quality wacom pen? I think if I end up using the S Pen enough that I could see myself buying this:
It's damn expensive, but if I could find a deal somewhere I would definitely drop some cash on one.
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Yeah that pen wont work you have to use a pen that works with a Wacom pennable display. These are specific pens that are designed for integrated tablet options. Try looking at IBM pens fore the x61 and above machines. they are all over Ebay and cheap about 15 - 20 dollars a pen. I'm sitting here in a room full of Intuos 3 and 4 pens and none of them actually work on my note, they are not compatible.
I Just tried a friends Cintiq pen, and it did not work on my note. Also tried the pen that came with my first generation 5" wacom tablet it also did not work; did try a pen off a random HP pen tablet in the office and that does work. Not sure what the differences in pen technology are, but obviously there are some.
-Josh
There is a difference in many generations of Wacom pen tech. In my tests all of the Penabled styluses have worked very well. so it seems a good rule of thumb here when considering a higher quality stylus is if its a stylus designed for a Wacom branded product. Or a stylus for a 3rd party product that happens to use Wacom Technology. no first party products have worked in my tests and all 3rd party ones have. Currently I am using the stylus from the Samsung 7 series tablet. Eraser works, button works , a noticeable increase in pressure accuracy and above all else its better shielded to prevent the auto-pressing bug many are facing with the S-pen. I'd be shocked if Samsung doesn't try to market a "S-pen pro" device in the near future.
I purchased my 7 series tablet pen from amazon for about 30 bucks.
GinjiVitis said:
There is a difference in many generations of Wacom pen tech. In my tests all of the Penabled styluses have worked very well. so it seems a good rule of thumb here when considering a higher quality stylus is if its a stylus designed for a Wacom branded product. Or a stylus for a 3rd party product that happens to use Wacom Technology. no first party products have worked in my tests and all 3rd party ones have. Currently I am using the stylus from the Samsung 7 series tablet. Eraser works, button works , a noticeable increase in pressure accuracy and above all else its better shielded to prevent the auto-pressing bug many are facing with the S-pen. I'd be shocked if Samsung doesn't try to market a "S-pen pro" device in the near future.
I purchased my 7 series tablet pen from amazon for about 30 bucks.
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REALLY the slate's pen works?? I carry my slate pen everywere in my pocket ready to use on my slate, but i went to a best buy and decided to try my stylus on the note that i saw on display it didn't work =\ , I really hope it really does work because this will be great. But i do have the developers version of the slate, doubt that should make a difference. My note comes in a few days..cross my fingers!
Also for others interested the great thing about the Samsung Slate Stylus is that it has a penclip so i easily clip it to the inside of my pocket and not worry about it falling out.
Wacom "Penabled" pens work, which you'll usually find with tablet PCs. Confirmed with the pen from my Thinkpad X60.
Wacom's regular line of pens, such as from the Bamboo, or the Intuos, do not work.
Note that even the eraser on my Thinkpad pen worked in the Memo app! Very cool.
As a cheaper alternative to the Samsung digitizer pen (for the slate). There is a company called Nationwide Surplus that sells white Axiotron digitizer pens for about $18 with free shipping. It's basically the same thing as the Samsung.
White stylus
They also sell a 3 pack of these for $50.
They sell an Axiotron Studio pen as well which includes a grip. I used to have one of these and they are very nice and comfortable, but might be overkill for the note.
I just ordered a 3-pack of the white stylus to have some stock. They come with extra nib units too. Great deal.
I purchased this one a few days ago on their site, the price was $14.
cmunho said:
As a cheaper alternative to the Samsung digitizer pen (for the slate). There is a company called Nationwide Surplus that sells white Axiotron digitizer pens for about $18 with free shipping. It's basically the same thing as the Samsung.
White stylus
They also sell a 3 pack of these for $50.
They sell an Axiotron Studio pen as well which includes a grip. I used to have one of these and they are very nice and comfortable, but might be overkill for the note.
I just ordered a 3-pack of the white stylus to have some stock. They come with extra nib units too. Great deal.
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I would've loved to have gone for one of those Axiotron pens, but I'm particular about my gadgets being black.
I went and opted for this Toshiba pen. At $35 shipped, it was the cheapest black pen I could find. Those Samsung pens started at $40ish shipped, and I like how it looked thinner and more pencil-like than the Samsung.
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I would've loved to have gone for one of those Axiotron pens, but I'm particular about my gadgets being black.
I went and opted for this Toshiba pen. At $35 shipped, it was the cheapest black pen I could find. Those Samsung pens started at $40ish shipped, and I like how it looked thinner and more pencil-like than the Samsung.
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Cool. Also, if you are in need of another at some point you can search around for a Fujitsu branded one. These pens are all basically the same. And there are deals to be had. No real reason to pay more than $20 for one of these.

S Pen 2 in 1

has anyone come across a 2 in 1 s pen stylus. One that looks like a real pen, has a ballpoint in it as well as the S pen nib and action button.
I'm always having to swap s pen for a real one as I use the S pen a lit. Used to have a 2 in 1 stylus in my Palm Pilot days, it was a really smart one looked like a Mont Blanc and was a very useful bit of kit.
I'd be grateful if you could keep your eyes open.
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I've been dreaming of such device too lol
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If there was a ball point in s pen that will leave marks on phones screen dam.. I will never use such pen on my note 3
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tell Samsung, maybe they will make one.
Bamboo made a duo stylus. I know they make a full size s pen as well for tablet use. Maybe check with them if they make dual sided pen.
Thanks folks looks like I'm going to have to go for a dedicated s pen like the 10 inch Note one.... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B007V2G59K/ref=pd_aw_sbs_2?pi=SL500_SS115
It's the lack of balance with the shipped s pen which makes it tricky to use for long periods of time.
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I know the note devices use Wacom touch screen technologies, and so does the Microsoft Surface Professional series. So if you find a stylus that works on the Surface Pro it will also work on the note. I have a surface Pro and have tested this on numerous occasions. Hopefully that broadens your search a little.
Hi - I'm looking for an SPen which fits the Note 3, which includes WRITING INK. I've searched the net but can't seem to find one. I used to be able to get these replacements on my old XDA a decade ago. Is it possible to get a real ink pen that fits into the Note 3 in replacement of the stylus?
PS - I don't use the SPen features, so I really don't need the standard SPen functionality whatsoever.
[Alternatively, do the 2in1 pens for the Note 10 that are discussed in this thread, also fit comfortably and slide into the Note 3?]
Many thanks,
Rob

stylus with eraser capability?

I love SNote and the standard stylus is nice, but I don't like needing to switch back and forth from the eraser whenever I make a mistake or what to change something. Is there any way to add a virtual eraser tip to the SPen, or is there an alternative stylus that can do this on the NotePRO?
There is a larger S Pen called the S Pen with eraser. That should work on the Note pro. On the back it has an eraser.
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The 8pi.
Does the 8pi fit in the stylus slot?
nsiti said:
Does the 8pi fit in the stylus slot?
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No, it is much too large.
Has anyone tested the 8i (S Pen with Eraser)
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There is a larger S Pen called the S Pen with eraser. That should work on the Note pro. On the back it has an eraser.
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I am also looking for a addition S Pen for my 12.2. I tried the Bamboo and it was way off target. It seemed that the point of the pen was off by approximately 1/16" of an inch. The problem is the sensor is too high up on the pen and when the pen was angled for normal writing the target would move down. I have not tried the 8i, I assume the same problem will exist. Has anyone tried this pen? I found one review that stated that it had the same problem as the Bamboo Stylus. Can anyone confirm compatibility?
I found an old (really old) tablet PC pen that works with the Notepro. It has an eraser and everything. The barrel is broken, so I am going to remove the guts and make my own pen. I haven't been able to find one that looks stylish so I hope to be able to.create what I want in a pen.
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