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hi
i have a HTC tattoo rooted and using 1.6 cooked rom and a task killer no problem
Now i also have a Samsung Galaxy 3 and every time i use a task killer the phone gives a whole lot of problems my question is
1. why all these problems on the G 3
yes i did read some were that it is not good to use a TK and i also used the watchdog but i was feeling that my battery was draining fast
2. do i need to use a task killer or not on the 2.1 OS
and for ur info on the Tattoo i seem to be able to use the task killer and no problem at all no fc no restart noting but all this is happening on the G3 i have tried most of the task killer from the Market
can any one kindly advise on the same & thanks in advance
thanks
hari
haree said:
hi
i have a HTC tattoo rooted and using 1.6 cooked rom and a task killer no problem
Now i also have a Samsung Galaxy 3 and every time i use a task killer the phone gives a whole lot of problems my question is
1. why all these problems on the G 3
yes i did read some were that it is not good to use a TK and i also used the watchdog but i was feeling that my battery was draining fast
2. do i need to use a task killer or not on the 2.1 OS
and for ur info on the Tattoo i seem to be able to use the task killer and no problem at all no fc no restart noting but all this is happening on the G3 i have tried most of the task killer from the Market
can any one kindly advise on the same & thanks in advance
thanks
hari
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Well, there is a whole philosophy about using task killers on Android phones. If the device has good resources (battery, RAM, processor) it's not so useful but for mid- or low-range devices someone have to think about using one. I used Advanced Task Killer on Eclair and Froyo, without battery issues or other troubles. I use it manually, after using some other applications, when they remain in RAM, inactive but increasing the lag of the phone. I kill also the Advanced Task killer after using it. And after that the phone is more responsive... That's my experience with task killers.
hi
Thanks but today when i used the same my phone network had problem ie no network had to remove app reload my sim to get it working wat did i do wrong
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haree said:
hi
i have a HTC tattoo rooted and using 1.6 cooked rom and a task killer no problem
Now i also have a Samsung Galaxy 3 and every time i use a task killer the phone gives a whole lot of problems my question is
1. why all these problems on the G 3
yes i did read some were that it is not good to use a TK and i also used the watchdog but i was feeling that my battery was draining fast
2. do i need to use a task killer or not on the 2.1 OS
and for ur info on the Tattoo i seem to be able to use the task killer and no problem at all no fc no restart noting but all this is happening on the G3 i have tried most of the task killer from the Market
can any one kindly advise on the same & thanks in advance
thanks
hari
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What I recommend:
best:upgrade to froyo and just use the built in taask manager
good:if you feel like you dont want to flash a beta firmware then:
do not use kill all, do not use automatic killing (kill manually).
kill only processes from apps that you know were opened.
in advanced task killer (if you use that) do not put low security, high or medium. if you are going to use another task killer put a similar option if available (less processes will be shown)
Oh, and yeah, kill the task killer after killing apps
stubborn_d0nkey said:
What I recommend:
best:upgrade to froyo and just use the built in taask manager
good:if you feel like you dont want to flash a beta firmware then:
do not use kill all, do not use automatic killing (kill manually).
kill only processes from apps that you know were opened.
in advanced task killer (if you use that) do not put low security, high or medium. if you are going to use another task killer put a similar option if available (less processes will be shown)
Oh, and yeah, kill the task killer after killing apps
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hi
thanks buddy let me try as explained by u and ill keep u posted on the same
thanks
hari
which is the best task killer or an application better than watchdog
aikam_2009 said:
which is the best task killer or an application better than watchdog
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I used advanced task killer. Search it up on the market
what is the best working auto task killer? I have tried several and now using advanced task killer but there is always some apps. that keeps on running and autostarting (market, settings etc...)
The best auto killer is to NOT use one. Let Android itself handle memory management.
Take a look here:
http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894
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The best auto killer is to NOT use one. Let Android itself handle memory management.
Take a look here:
http://lifehacker.com/#!5650894
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I tried this for a few days but I still think we need some sort of auto task killer for at least selected applications. I don't know any other way to close opera mobile and some other applications then with task killer, and if I leave then in the background phone becomes very laggy.
now i get it...i'll have watchdog ^^
I have kinda nooby question... i am using a phone with stock gingerbread and i am using an advanced task killer. I know a lot of people say that I shouldn't do it, but it just makes my phone a lot faster and smoother. As a noob, i have one question: is task killer really harmful to my phone and is it better for me to not use it? If you say yes, please provide me some specific reason why. Thank you ask much guys!
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its not that bad... but u should not kill background services!
keep settings on safe... don't use aggressive mode
applications u know u use often for example- browser or music player... u can add to excluded section... currently im using ZDBox and it works perfect... it also has additional features that you will need... hope this helps
I only use the ATK to kill an app that's not responding well.
For example, when I was using CM7, sometimes my Google Reader app would hang and display a loading symbol for a long time instead of displaying my articles, and the arrow that shows transmission over the network wasn't displaying so I knew it wasn't waiting on data, I would use ATK to kill ONLY Google Reader. Then I could go back into the app and it would load very quickly.
But since I switched to an ICS ROM, I haven't had that same issue and haven't had a need for ATK.
Also, do note that it does take processing power, and therefore battery power, when your phone decides to restart any of those apps you are killing, and it will restart apps.
For a great explanatory article, see here:
http://androidandme.com/2011/11/app...lers-still-dont-give-you-better-battery-life/
and also the links in the phrase "(see here, and here, and here)".
So in short, they are not exactly "harmful" but they don't provide any real benefit if you "kill everything, every time."
It is a common myth that more RAM = better performance, and this is a result of the market being dominated by Microsoft for so long. Android does not equal a desktop OS. Free RAM literally does nothing. In fact, it is wasteful to have bunch of free RAM. Android manages RAM very effectively and aggressively works to ensure that you have sufficient resources to do whatever it is you want to do. If you notice an increase in performance with a task killer, it is because you have a misbehaving app. Watchdog is the only task manager I would recommend, all it does is watch for apps that are using an abnormal amount of resources and alerts you. Part of the Android experience is the emulated multi-tasking, or having several apps saved to memory simultaneously to facilitate ease of switching between them. An app in the background will not affect the performance of your device, it is not using any resources. Aside from that, if you end a task, it will usually just start right up again, using more resources, because that is how Android is designed to work.
So, I would say finding the misbehaving app is a much better option than a task killer. They were important in eclair, maybe even FroYo. But anything above that they are unnecessary.
i dont really believe in android"s app managmentbut task killers make it only worst IMHO
I have to agree with member devator22.
Android is not Windows. Android is basically Linux and Linux is using a different memory management than Windows does. (Although Windows has got a lot of improvements during the last years)
RAM which isn't used, is wasted! That's a fact.
So, if you run a specific application, some of its data my be cached. Linux is reporting this as "buffered" (you can see the amount by running the 'top' command)
There might be a more or less big chance to hit this cache. If so, the data is loaded much faster ( definetly > 10 ) than if it had to be requested from the file system.
By killing your application by a task manger you are releasing this buffered resources (actually you are forcing the OS to release it). In the worst case you are wasting your advantage of loading already cached data from the RAM. In the best case you are gaining nothing because your device has to load it from the file system anyway.
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Get watchdog!
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Thank you so much for these replies! I really appreciate it! I decided to keep my task killer but not use it aggressively. I probably will use it to end apps that i really find it pointless. And also to the people who said android dies it's own task managing, you're right but wrong at the same time. When i didn't use my task killer, android did killed some apps in in order to launch more apps, but it left only like 10mb of 300mb, which i found little odd and also it mainly killed launchers which was very annoying.
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Task killer will speed up your phone if you know what you're doing. Only kill tasks that you are familiar with...e.g. apps that you know you have launched and won't be using anymore. Those apps running in the background can slow down your device.
If I'm on ICS, its better to use the bult-in task killer, or download one from the market?
Guys, he's not saying he does it for the memory. He says the phone's smoother. I don't know whether this is true, but if there are background tasks performing operations that he doesn't want them to do, it's *absolutely appropriate* to kill them.
The flip side of that is that the applications will eventually be automatically started again, and that startup takes extra CPU time. As long as the process startup and process killing happens when the screen is off, I would think this could improve the responsiveness.
But I think on most people's phones, the background processes really don't use a lot of CPU...
I know by default even Gbs memory management isn't the best. The app priorities are a bit weird aand the launcher gets killed to easily. Running the v6 supercharger scripts and making the launcher hard to kill and fixing the priorities and changing the oom settings makes any from wicked fast
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I am not rooted, so I can't do anything that involves rooting.
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Instead of killing an app over and over again install something like Gemini App Manager and disable the app's autostart permissions. For example, dropbox and dropbox sync are set to automatically start at boot or when there's a connectivity change. I understand why they're set to do that but for my purposes I only needed them to start when I actually used them.
Having said that, I no longer use Gemini and have never used an automatic task killer. I think android (ICS) does a good enough job managing it's memory that I don't need to be anal about micromanaging it myself. I think it also helps that I'm not an appaholic. I'm very picky about what I install and will only keep an app installed if I regularly use it.
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Jinx Lumos Joke said:
If I'm on ICS, its better to use the bult-in task killer, or download one from the market?
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Built-In is much better
im on ics on my captivate and it runs beyond smooth
like stated before having free RAM with not do anything
android has a good way of muti tasking
Guys kindly share ur experience here.what is the best task manager fir better RAM optimization in your view?
I do not recommend using any task killer for any android phone. Here *read and learn*, but if you really want to use one then just monitor the app that is unnecessarily eating your cpu using watchdog and manually kill it otherwise 'task killers' will take up your phone's resources.
Android is totally different compared to windows... Android don't ever need task killer! Just leave it to be, it'll auto optimize...
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task killers like people said are not recommended.
but that doesnt mean that you cant use it, you still can use it daily actually.
my favorite and the best task killers out there in the market are Advanced Task Killers
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImNvbS5yZWNoaWxkLmFkdmFuY2VkdGFza2tpbGxlciJd
+1 to what above users said.Killing an app will only make it load again which consumes battery.
Killing tasks in Android is generally not recommended but if you really want a task killer, Advanced Task Killer does the job well.
Thanx alot all u bro.i m using memory booster.i works like a charm for me...
I use Quick System Info and Advanced Task Manager but the apps will automatically restart after being killed and this procedure even cost more CPU usage. I also use the built-in "Running services" setting but it's not so effective either, sometimes forcing an app to stop won't free more memory.
Apps in android work like this. Say you are running Google Maps.
-Android: Ok he's using maps, lets use some of the ram.
-Android: Oh he stopped using maps, ill just empty the app from the RAM but ill keep some information here in case he wants to run it again, plus maps still needs to do something so ill keep some info for it.
Now if you put a task manager to kill the remaining information (which is close to 0 in size) you add this.
-Android: Hey where did the info for google maps go? Oh darn i guess ill have to load the app again from scratch and use additional ram.
So all in all it ends up being counterproductive. Task killers worked on 2.2 and earlier versions. On 2.3 its almost automatic.
If you're looking for better ram managment, i suggest you try the V6 Supercharger Scripts.
I agree with the post above.
Using task manager actual result is slower and higher battery usage.
I use V6 Supercharger also, it changes the minfree amount, that is how much RAM has to be available minimal always.
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Yeah... I totaly agree with dumraden... Android is very good at managing RAM on ots own...
If u kill an app, it will only cause unnecesary load on the CPU...
Btw very good explaination man...
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hi guys
you know any root task killer that kills system services too with user apps?
and frees alot ram
my s3 keeps freezing with more apps open
Smart RAM Booster
abelle_abelle said:
hi guys
you know any root task killer that kills system services too with user apps?
and frees alot ram
my s3 keeps freezing with more apps open
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You can use Smart RAM Booster, i used it on my Galaxy SL and it worked perfectly, also works on SGS3. You can also set a time to auto-kill the apps and clear cache.
Search it on Play Store, there's a free version if you want to try it.
Hope it helped
abelle_abelle said:
hi guys
you know any root task killer that kills system services too with user apps?
and frees alot ram
my s3 keeps freezing with more apps open
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i don't think it's advisable to use any task killers for our android.. but if you insist, you can try what the guy above me suggested. also, if you are annoyed with some constant stock apps running on the background, you can use Titanium Backup to freeze those apps
I hope this helps cheers
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Task killers are evil, and often degrade performance and battery life. As suggested previously freeze or uninstall apps that are continually running in the background.
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i'm using go taskmanager its best
uses root to kill system services
btw is there a way to make a user app to keep running all time no task killer could stop it ??
i want to do it for go launcher
use cm task killer... best