[Q] Installing CWM from stock rom - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777

Hi, I am getting a new phone tomorrow. So, I'm thinking of put custom kernel on it. I did some research on it and the following is the step I plan to do.
1. Root using odin (Entropy's)
2. Install CWM through mobile odin
3. Flash kernel on CWM.
My question is why step 1 and step 2 are separate? I had AT&T captivate. They have combined odin version. Is it because flash counter? Or is there better way? Thanks

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Root, install kernel.. boot to cwm. Bam. Done.
Kernel has cwm in it I believe.
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herofmm said:
Hi, I am getting a new phone tomorrow. So, I'm thinking of put custom kernel on it. I did some research on it and the following is the step I plan to do.
1. Root using odin (Entropy's)
2. Install CWM through mobile odin
3. Flash kernel on CWM.
My question is why step 1 and step 2 are separate? I had AT&T captivate. They have combined odin version. Is it because flash counter? Or is there better way? Thanks
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Because Entropy's stock plus root odin tar package contains a fully stock kernel. However, you don't have the steps exactly right. Steps 2 and 3 are only one step, because you must install a custom kernel to get ClockworkMod Recovery.
You do step 1 to obtain root, but the kernel remains essentially the same. Then you do step 2 to get the custom kernel containing CWM recovery. Now step 3 is unnecessary. But at this point, you may wish to flash a custom ROM using CWM Recovery.

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but we can also flash the first package with mobile odin why to use PC odin

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If you do Entropy flash setup you will not incur the flash counter. Be sure to save a stock image on internal sd....in case you need to return to stock.
Got Linux? I put it in your ride.

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creepyncrawly said:
Because Entropy's stock plus root odin tar package contains a fully stock kernel. However, you don't have the steps exactly right. Steps 2 and 3 are only one step, because you must install a custom kernel to get ClockworkMod Recovery.
You do step 1 to obtain root, but the kernel remains essentially the same. Then you do step 2 to get the custom kernel containing CWM recovery. Now step 3 is unnecessary. But at this point, you may wish to flash a custom ROM using CWM Recovery.
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I just rooted using your Odin 1-click method. Was a total breeze once I got it installed. I have root now (thanks!) but was wondering why I shouldn't just flash the kernel though ROM Manager.
I could flash Entropy's DD kernel w/ CWM through Heimdall (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289460&highlight=root) but I just spent a frustrating night watching Heimdall fail over and over again when trying to root (failed at factoryfs at exactly the same place over and over, using three different files). So, I'm a little over Heimdall at the moment.
Thanks for all your excellent work on these forums.

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dhlalit11 said:
but we can also flash the first package with mobile odin why to use PC odin
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No, you can't flash the first package using Mobile Odin because you don't have root yet. Mobile Odin requires root.
So it's:
Flash a rooted system image to get root using PC Odin. (bootloader only signature-checks the kernel, not /system)
Flash a custom kernel using Mobile Odin or dd to get CWM (bootloader only checks kernels flashed in download mode during the flash process, on-device flashing methods don't trigger any of the alarms.)

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dhlalit11 said:
but we can also flash the first package with mobile odin why to use PC odin
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He doesn't have root. How is he supposed to use Mobile Odin without root?
creaky said:
I have root now (thanks!) but was wondering why I shouldn't just flash the kernel though ROM Manager.
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ROM Manager just doesn't play well with our phones.