I've seen this issue on two ROMs now where I take a picture and rather than ending up with the sharp review picture shown on the screen right after, I end up with a blurry image that was taken about 1/4 second later. I've seen this running both Euphoria and Slim. I'm wondering if it's a known issue that I haven't been able to find info on (I've searched but most people just seem to care about FFC) or if somehow I'm causing this.
If you aren't sure if you're seeing this but have a moment to experiment, try the following:
1) Get your significant other, family member or friend to stand in a brightly lit room.
2) While you're aiming your camera at them have them start turning in a circle. Doesn't have to be fast but shouldn't be really slow either.
3) Take their picture and remember the position they were in when the review still was displayed after the picture was taken.
Now compare your memory of what the camera showed to you with the result in the gallery.
I consistently see that the picture that was stored was taken about 1/4 second after the review I saw after taking the picture. It's also usually less sharp.
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btw, the problem can also be shown by just panning the phone and taking a picture during the pan. If you end up with something recognizable in the review image you may find that the final image doesn't match.
Hmmm.. all seems well in ICZenwich
Hmm. Wish I had the luxury of installing ICZ just to find out if that camera doesn't have the problem or if this is a problem with my phone somehow, or how I'm restoring apps badly. I'm otherwise happy with Slim so I'm reluctant to install a new ROM since I just put this one on a couple of days ago.
If nobody else chimes in I'll try ICZ this weekend.
btw, the problem can also be shown by just panning the phone and taking a picture during the pan. If you end up with something recognizable in the review image you may find that the final image doesn't match.
Here some sample of picture I took with ICZenwich, Just basic setting.
mostdef, I think you've misunderstood the problem. None of those images show motion. With the subject standing still you'd never see the problem I'm describing. It's when the subjects are in motion or the camera is in motion (panning) that you may see the issue.
I've also seen it on Slim and Zen.
Looks like the actual picture is taken a sec after the camera display actually clicks and show you the preview. The trick is to remain still after the camera says its taken the picture. You get a picture that is a sec after the phone assume you take it. However, if you move the phone right after the camera clicks, then the picture is ruined. Same thing as if you take a picture as your arm is moving.
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I've also seen it on Slim and Zen.
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I'm glad it's not just me or my phone but that's messed up.
The biggest issue is that the review picture the camera shows is not what you end up with. There's no point in having the review image show up after a picture is taken if it's going to be wrong.
It doesn't matter how still you hold the camera if what you're taking the picture of is in motion.
I can't believe more people aren't talking about this
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I'm glad it's not just me or my phone but that's messed up.
The biggest issue is that the review picture the camera shows is not what you end up with. There's no point in having the review image show up after a picture is taken if it's going to be wrong.
It doesn't matter how still you hold the camera if what you're taking the picture of is in motion.
I can't believe more people aren't talking about this
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Are you talking about moving the camera around that look like it jerky on motion or are you talking about moving object?
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I recently posted that my friend and I have the same phone with the same carrier, the same firmware (2.3.4) etc. I asked why his camera was better, and never got a answer which solved it. I now think this was my folley as it appears that it is actually his screen which is better.
We bluetoothed some pictures we both had aken ourselves to see if it was in fact the camera and although it is not as big a difference when we take pictures on each device his pictures (the same pictures) look slightly beter.
Any ideas why this may be, if i got a botched phone or something? there is a couple of slight scrathes over my camera if tht could make the difference but i doubt it since it's more the fact my pictures are blurry.
Thanks in advance, Harry
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I recently posted that my friend and I have the same phone with the same carrier, the same firmware (2.3.4) etc. I asked why his camera was better, and never got a answer which solved it. I now think this was my folley as it appears that it is actually his screen which is better.
We bluetoothed some pictures we both had aken ourselves to see if it was in fact the camera and although it is not as big a difference when we take pictures on each device his pictures (the same pictures) look slightly beter.
Any ideas why this may be, if i got a botched phone or something? there is a couple of slight scrathes over my camera if tht could make the difference but i doubt it since it's more the fact my pictures are blurry.
Thanks in advance, Harry
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Did you check the screen settings? There's one besides 'Brightness'. The screen can be set to something, Dynamic, or something else. This could be it... have a look around and make sure you're on the same settings.
FWIW I read your first post a week or 2 ago, and didn't answer cause it sounds like a really strange problem...and without both phones in my hand I couldn't begin to speculate. I doubt that you got a sub-par phone. Try making photos without holding the device, set it on a level surface. The blur could be from your hand shaking very very slightly, and maybe your buddy has steadier hands than you do. Really, no way to tell without having the phones in front of me. Sorry if this doesn't help. Keep us posted on your findings and good luck!
I saw that some i9100 got a different Camara Firmware possibly he got a better Firmware...
if thats not right someone can still blame me
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Did you check the screen settings? There's one besides 'Brightness'. The screen can be set to something, Dynamic, or something else. This could be it... have a look around and make sure you're on the same settings.
FWIW I read your first post a week or 2 ago, and didn't answer cause it sounds like a really strange problem...and without both phones in my hand I couldn't begin to speculate. I doubt that you got a sub-par phone. Try making photos without holding the device, set it on a level surface. The blur could be from your hand shaking very very slightly, and maybe your buddy has steadier hands than you do. Really, no way to tell without having the phones in front of me. Sorry if this doesn't help. Keep us posted on your findings and good luck!
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I know it's hard without seeing both, we're struggling with both. I have a more recent camera firmware i think as i updated through samsung apps not long ago. I'm not entirely sure about the shake but we have done a lot of photos and we almost always had him take both pictues. Also we both use 'standard' screen mode (we checked).
check to make sure that the camera lense is clean as well, often a smudgy/dirty lense will make bad photos.
I'm actually having the same problem (and have been having it for months). I only noticed it when I was a concert late last year and I was recording on my phone and watching other people's SGS2s record. Theirs was obviously much clearer and did not distort like my camera/footage did (when lights would flash, mines would blur, 'blob' together lights that were close to one another etc. while theirs captured it with clarity). Then I started to notice that when I zoom in, my camera gets extremely blurry, too. I started comparing to a few other people and, yes, on the same settings my camera is much worse. I've tried resetting the camera settings which has proved to do nothing for it.
I was starting to think I was crazy but I've finally found someone else with the same/a similar problem (was extremely hard to Google).
I also updated my firmware via Samsung Apps. It seems to be great in natural light but otherwise, it's really quite poor.
Camera firmware is TBEF04.
Any ideas?
guys it would be better if we can attach our sample pictures. i had similar problem. this is mine.
I installed the BoA mobile banking app. It came with a check deposit feature. That said, you need to take two pictures, one of the front another of the back. I had no issue to take the image of the front of the check, but had trouble to take the back side.
The back side of the check is relatively white/blank, so it's hard for the camera to focus, and I cannot just tap the check to change the focus point.
Any one experienced this and had a solution?
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I installed the BoA mobile banking app. It came with a check deposit feature. That said, you need to take two pictures, one of the front another of the back. I had no issue to take the image of the front of the check, but had trouble to take the back side.
The back side of the check is relatively white/blank, so it's hard for the camera to focus, and I cannot just tap the check to change the focus point.
Any one experienced this and had a solution?
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Have you tried taking a photo while it still appears blurry (maybe in camera app so as not to send a blurry pic to the bank) ?
I often take photos of things up close and while they may appear blurry, even after I tap to focus, they come out quite sharp... Anyway, probably worth a try!
Have you tried any camera apps from Google Play?
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I installed the BoA mobile banking app. It came with a check deposit feature. That said, you need to take two pictures, one of the front another of the back. I had no issue to take the image of the front of the check, but had trouble to take the back side.
The back side of the check is relatively white/blank, so it's hard for the camera to focus, and I cannot just tap the check to change the focus point.
Any one experienced this and had a solution?
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A long shot from my photography book ...
But the auto focus in the camera needs a contrast color as a reference point ...
As you know ...the camera ignores the white color as empty space ...and looks for solid base colors to focus against ...
If your bank will allow it ...you can set the check on top of a dark piece of paper ...as this may assist the lens with focus distance.
Or ..if you are allowed to sign your name on the back in black ink ...that would help also ..
And of course ....distance from the image is important too ...
Stay out at least 12 inches or more and zoom manually if needed to capture .
That's my .02 on the camera ....g
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A long shot from my photography book ...
But the auto focus in the camera needs a contrast color as a reference point ...
As you know ...the camera ignores the white color as empty space ...and looks for solid base colors to focus against ...
If your bank will allow it ...you can set the check on top of a dark piece of paper ...as this may assist the lens with focus distance.
Or ..if you are allowed to sign your name on the back in black ink ...that would help also ..
And of course ....distance from the image is important too ...
Stay out at least 12 inches or more and zoom manually if needed to capture .
That's my .02 on the camera ....g
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Thanks for your tips!
I actually have signed the check with black ink, but it's on top of the check, which means, when I tried to focus on the check, the camera by default always used the central point to focus. I cannot write anything below the line, which may void the check.
Currently the only effective way that I can take a sharp image was under bright light. That said, a normal 40w ceiling light won't work.
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Thanks for your tips!
I actually have signed the check with black ink, but it's on top of the check, which means, when I tried to focus on the check, the camera by default always used the central point to focus. I cannot write anything below the line, which may void the check.
Currently the only effective way that I can take a sharp image was under bright light. That said, a normal 40w ceiling light won't work.
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Also put the check on a black background and then take the front and back pictures. I had the same trouble until I put the check on my black keyboard and took the pictures and it works the first time.
Now that feature is crashing the app on version 4.2.55 of the BofA app.
I use B of A app to deposit my checks. My app has little corner guides. When u get them lined up around the corners of the check push the button. I dont even look at the focus or anything else. Photo comes out fine and bank accepts it..
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I can say that the Chase App check deposit works just fine
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Sorry if I'm reviving an old thread, but I had the same problem and got it to work at least for me. At first I was trying to line up the check's corners with the guide corners in the app when taking the picture. It kept having a problem until I finally zoomed out a little bit. I guess having the camera that close to the check wasn't allowing it to focus correctly. Hopefully that helps someone else.
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Sorry if I'm reviving an old thread, but I had the same problem and got it to work at least for me. At first I was trying to line up the check's corners with the guide corners in the app when taking the picture. It kept having a problem until I finally zoomed out a little bit. I guess having the camera that close to the check wasn't allowing it to focus correctly. Hopefully that helps someone else.
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Actually the root cause is that the camera always wants to focus on the central point. That's why it can focus the front side of the check - there are a lot of contents, but not the back side - it's all white and blank.
BoA seems to accept a pen on top of the check image and I successfully did it multiple times.
Zoom out seems to be an other solution, too.
Thanks!
Hello everyone, I may be missing something but i was playing around with the camera on this great phone and realized that the normal press and hold of the shutter button to have the camera focus in a dark room does not work. If you press and hold the camera takes shots in burst mode. If you press it once the flash lights up dimly but does not focus properly and then flashes full blast but takes a blurry photo. This is very annoying because im used to my samsung s3 and note 2 that would focus by holding the shutter button in a dark room and then release to take a clear focused picture.
Am I missing something? for a camera that is good in low light and have 5 levels of flash intensity it seems to make no sense to not be able to focus in a dark room. whats the point of having a camera with a flash that cant take a picture in the dark or semi dark room right?
let me know if you are having this issue, if you think i'm doing something wrong or maybe if ill just have to deal with it until HTC comes out with an update. if it happens to you we can all call 8664498358 and press 0 and let HTC know this is very annoying I have gotten through to a live person instantly by calling this number to ask why in the world the power saver feature is persistent in the notification drop down....there reason....dummy instructions and to many service returns for "bad batteries"
UPDATE: I have spoke with HTC on a separate issue and mentioned this to the guy i spoke with and he has not had any other feedback on this issue, how ever he advised me to have anyone who is having this issue please contact them, he was not able to duplicate it yet because he in not in a dark room but he said he will try it when he can (Thanks Fred). the more people who report the issue and provide feedback the better chances they can get it resolved, I am having this issue on my wifes phone and my phone. you may need to focus on a far object and then try to focus on a near object in a dark room, like a room with less then low light. In my case it was in a room only lit by an old crt tv (bedroom) how ever he advised me the more feedback the better, they are very interesting in hearing from us and he is very aware of the xda forums as well as other android forums out there.
so no one cares. nice
So much for the community. No one seems to care even though plenty of you guys have looked and all own this phone. Pretty disgraceful.
EDIT: Sorry if I sound rude or condescending, Just surprised no one has commented yet or has said they are having this issue, personally I use my phone for taking photos in less then low light situations often and if this issue cant get resolved its going to really suck. HTC can fix it but needs the feedback to know that its widespread and not just a fluke, although they do know that its happening on my wifes phone and my phone.
I've tried it, and it doesn't auto-focus either. Manually focusing before taking the picture works though.
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I've tried it, and it doesn't auto-focus either. Manually focusing before taking the picture works though.
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Thank you very much for the reply, I have tried to manual focus and it doesnt work for me in very dark situations. sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't though. I have noticed if I focus on something distant in a low light area and then back on something near in a very dark area it will not focus. Every other camera I have used on a phone has lit up the flash long enough and bright enough to focus and turn the focus indicator green how ever this camera seems to focus on speed and seems to not care about weather the picture is focused, it doesn't turn red or beep or anything it just takes a blurry photo. it takes more blurry photos then clear it seems to me in low light or less then low light conditions.
If you could please contact HTC and let them know I would be very happy and hopefully they get this issue fixed, I have called HTC a few times for other issues. yesterday my lock screen kept saying today was cinco de mayo and for the life of me I couldnt figure out how to turn that off and I also am not happy about the Gallery app showing every single friend photo including horribly low resolution ones not to mention the persistant power saver notification in the drop down thats so stupid! but when I talked to them they mentioned the camera issue and wanted me to explain to them cause they saw the notes based on my phone number and previous calls, they would like all the feedback they can get.
This isn't just a T-Mobile HTC One issue, my international is doing this too.
I'd be interested to know from someone that doesn't have this problem, in a dark room, if you tap on the screen to focus, does the light come on?
All other phones I've had would light the area to focus, as you've said above this just tries to focus in the dark. How can that be right?
I've tried different ROM's and firmware, always tries to focus in the dark. Why on earth would it do this!?!?!
Yeah I noticed that problem too when trying to take a picture of a person in a life like Iron Man costume in a theater Friday night.
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lets get this fixed!
Boy I'm glad I'm not the only one. I know we are about fixing stock and nodding and what not but please start a ticket on the issue. HTC has a place on there website for this or you can call them.
Coming from the Note 2, when I hit the button, it snapped right away. The S4 has a slight delay when you hit the button. Also I noticed the images look amazingly clear on the screen, yet comes out a bit blurry when you go to look at it. Anyone else have this issue....mainly the button delay.??
That's do to I believe the higher tech Auto-Focus
I notice the delay and also the worse image quality and yes I come from a note 2 as well. I notice if you get really close to something like a paper dollar and try and focus it can't. Where it could on the note 2.
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This camera is said to be far better than the Note 2. Grrrr!!
It takes good pics though....check this.!
I saw this too
This is an annoyance of mine as well. But coming from a photography background, I know why the pic is coming out blurry after the delayed shutter... Most times when people hit the button (and the phone is supposed to snap right away...) they have a tendency to move the phone or because of how hard they hit the screen to snap a pic, you are getting camera shake. Trust me, take a pic with the phone on the table and be as still as possible... You will get a crisp shot. And the camera is nice. Although I think the S3 is still tops. Has better noise cancellation in low light than this phone, because at ISO2000 its going to get pretty noisy!
It blows... I completely agree... and hope to god there is an update that fixes this, but after toying with it a bit, I've gotten used to the half sec delay and I am more conscious of being still when taking shots. Even when you have the phone sitting on a table or object, its still important to be as still as possible. Unfortunately the developers are tailoring after the burst shot as everyone's goto "mode" because they want you to use their features thinking "meh just take 10 shots and pic the best" which is STUPID. But unfortunately for any of us who just want to snap 1 good shot, you have to make the adjustment and deal with it until or if they release a fix. Maybe there is something in the source code that a dev can hack through and change the delay to 0. Until then, I feel your pain.
Not sure if anyone has the same issue like me.
The phone did very well when shooting regular pic, but when it comes to taking the picture of a check in banking apps, it failed to focus everytime, no matter what banking app I use (BofA, CapitalOne, Discover, etc) and what light condition I have.
It is really frustrating.:crying:
Please help.
TIA!
bbandzz said:
Not sure if anyone has the same issue like me.
The phone did very well when shooting regular pic, but when it comes to taking the picture of a check in banking apps, it failed to focus everytime, no matter what banking app I use (BofA, CapitalOne, Discover, etc) and what light condition I have.
It is really frustrating.:crying:
Please help.
TIA!
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I use BofA, so I know exactly what you mean. The good news, at least with my experience, is that it will take a sharp picture of the front and back of the check, but display an out of focus image. I have deposited many checks without issue. If you look at the thumbnail that displays for the front and back, the image is sharp.
Keith
Thanks a lot KeithE!
I did not expect to get an answer so fast, considering I googled the answer for half an hour and found nothing before I tried my luck here.
You are right! :good: BofA does take the seemly blury pic of the check and the thumbnail does look pretty sharp. However, CapitalOne does not take the blury pic and told me that it can not read the numbers on the check.
Thanks again for your help! I really start to like this forum... :victory:
KeithE said:
I use BofA, so I know exactly what you mean. The good news, at least with my experience, is that it will take a sharp picture of the front and back of the check, but display an out of focus image. I have deposited many checks without issue. If you look at the thumbnail that displays for the front and back, the image is sharp.
Keith
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