microHDMI to VGA adapter to 4x3 screen - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

Hi, I'm interested in the microHDMI to VGA adapter, however I'm unsure whether android/tfp will handle screen ratio's different from the native ratio, like 4x3 on projectors and old monitors.
Does it depend on the support of the app?
For instance Splashtop HD supports 4x3 resolution while the THD version does not.
Would that mean that the HD version will be fullscreen and the THD version not or streched?
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I'm not sure how it works now, but I believe in the upcoming .19 update, you're supposed to be able to allow for output to different aspect ratios. For now, I imagine you'd be squished, unless your 4:3 TV had a widescreen mode.

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hdmi out for movie playback?

how will the prime handle audio if i want to play a movie/tv show from the transformer on my tv?
i'm probably going to get this cable
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10253&cs_id=1025301&p_id=7327&seq=1&format=2
but how does it do the audio? i know that hdmi can handle video and audio so will a single hdmi cable output the video and the sound from the transformer when i plug it into the tv? i think when i used my laptop i had to get a cable with a 3.5mm jack to go into the headphone jack on the laptop and on the other end were rca jacks to go into the tv but my plasma doesn't have rca jacks. i think that's where i'm getting confused.
Yes that cable will output both audio and video to your tv simultaneously.
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And now the big question, will the tablet be able to output higher resolutions than the screen res? Tf101 : only 1280x720: pretty worthless for hd movies or for using it as a desktop replacement connected to your 23" screen ...
Tegra3 can do it... but can the tf2 do it too?
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Tempie007 said:
And now the big question, will the tablet be able to output higher resolutions than the screen res? Tf101 : only 1280x720: pretty worthless for hd movies or for using it as a desktop replacement connected to your 23" screen ...
Tegra3 can do it... but can the tf2 do it too?
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If not the developers will do it! XD
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I have Xperia Neo with HDMI and the audio and video @ 720p couldn't be handled any better IMO
All I can say is more than likely 1080 will be released maybe as official update or as mentioned above devs will do it
HDMI support is an essential for any tablet in the current market
I am really considering this as my first tablet
1080p Video File Size
1080p hdmi out would be great. So we are talking 1280 x 1920 output, yes? I am getting old and I have a hard time seeing the difference between 720p and 1080p.
If I am worried about 1080p out, then I'd also be concerned with having 7.1 audio out also. Might as well experience the "full" movie experience.
What about file size this 1080p video is going to be? Even with the 64 GB Prime what's the biggest file size I can dump on the drive? Are sd cards used with Android not limited to 4GB (aka fat32 format)? Any word on ICS breaking this barrier?
I cannot see a 1080p movie being within the 4GB limit. It's a challenge to get a 720p movie within the current 4GB limit.
Tempie007 said:
And now the big question, will the tablet be able to output higher resolutions than the screen res?
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You should not worry about this part. Yes it will.
The HDMI out video playback power is a task of the CPU/SoC, regardless of the actual display on the device. The Nvidia Tegra 3 SoC is well capable of playing smooth 1080p video.
yhzhrm said:
What about file size this 1080p video is going to be? Even with the 64 GB Prime what's the biggest file size I can dump on the drive? Are sd cards used with Android not limited to 4GB (aka fat32 format)? Any word on ICS breaking this barrier?
I cannot see a 1080p movie being within the 4GB limit. It's a challenge to get a 720p movie within the current 4GB limit.
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This is the most concerning part with using the TF as your portable media watcher/tv-hookup-thingie.
From what i've read and seen today i think the Transformer Prime's hdmi output still sends out 720p, so no 1080p.
This is a real bugger since i want to use this thing as desktop replacement (hooked up to 23" 1080p+ monitor). 720p is way to low (big letters, small working area , blurry fonts when zoomed out)
Tegra3 as said can handle more than 720p.
Question is is there any hardware limitation?
Like the HDMI out, could that limit to 720p?
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DarsVaeda said:
Tegra3 as said can handle more than 720p.
Question is is there any hardware limitation?
Like the HDMI out, could that limit to 720p?
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tegra3 can output resolutions way higher than 1080p... however, the TF2 device clones its own screen when connected to hdmi, which means you'll stay at 1280x800 or 1280x720 actually (minus lower bar)
But that could rather be software and by this changable if it really is the case.
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it's like this. One's hdmi is connected its clones what show on Primes screen and that would be 720p when you are on homescreen,browsing, apps, games.
But when you start a movie and are connected to a screen with hdmi it will output the resolution that the video file have, if the movie is 1080p it will be 1080p if your screen will handle that resolution. The picture is only showed on the connected screen and on Primes screen you only have to media controls like play/paus seek and so on.
A video that show what I tried to explain with my poor english. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=khfMc77SkwI#!
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it's like this. One's hdmi is connected its clones what show on Primes screen and that would be 720p when you are on homescreen,browsing, apps, games.
But when you start a movie and are connected to a screen with hdmi it will output the resolution that the video file have, if the movie is 1080p it will be 1080p if your screen will handle that resolution. The picture is only showed on the connected screen and on Primes screen you only have to media controls like play/paus seek and so on.
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Is this true? I didn't find anything about hdmi.
It's supposed to work that way on normal Transformer too (since some update) but I never had time to test. Someone claimed that it works though - 1080p movies play by HDMI as 1080p not 720p.
I would like full 1080p desktop but I doubt it will be there. Not in HC for sure. Maybe ICS will add sth like that?
Per Anandtech, Prime supports ext NTFS volumes, and 4GB+ is allowed. This assumes you also buy the dock, since Prime has no USB.
"External NTFS volumes are supported and the sdcard file system supports files greater than 4GB in size, so I copied a 15GB 1080p Blu-ray rip of A Quantum of Solace from a USB stick to the Prime. I had to use DICE Player to get audio but otherwise the clip just worked."
Per TheVerge, reviewer reports HDMI output on 52" TV "felt like I was watching a Blu-ray movie." The implication is that it's 1080p output, although it wasn't explicitly stated.
Magnesus said:
It's supposed to work that way on normal Transformer too (since some update) but I never had time to test. Someone claimed that it works though - 1080p movies play by HDMI as 1080p not 720p.
I would like full 1080p desktop but I doubt it will be there. Not in HC for sure. Maybe ICS will add sth like that?
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Would like a 1080p desktop too! I can imagine that this could be a problem due to not being able to use the touchscreen in that case (can't touch a black screen) but at least i would like to have the choice when i connect the device to hdmi (popup?)
sontin said:
Is this true? I didn't find anything about hdmi.
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yes. and what didn't you find.
Magnesus said:
It's supposed to work that way on normal Transformer too (since some update) but I never had time to test. Someone claimed that it works though - 1080p movies play by HDMI as 1080p not 720p.
I would like full 1080p desktop but I doubt it will be there. Not in HC for sure. Maybe ICS will add sth like that?
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The day when tablets gets 1080p screens and a OS that is setup for that you will get 1080p on the external screen even when you just use the homescreen,browser,App.
movies played on transformer when hdmi is connected will be shown on external screen in their native (correct word?) resolution.
480p will be 480
720p video will be 720p
1080p video will be 1080p
Homescreen and all other places in the UI will be clone to the big screen in 720p because primes screen is 1280*800
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Tempie007 said:
Would like a 1080p desktop too! I can imagine that this could be a problem due to not being able to use the touchscreen in that case (can't touch a black screen) but at least i would like to have the choice when i connect the device to hdmi (popup?)
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would been a good option that you could choose to clone the screen in 1080p and when you plug in the hdmi primes screen turns off and prime start acting same way like a computer that out put the picture to a screen and u use a mouse/keyboard to navigate
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yes. and what didn't you find.
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I forgot a word. I mean i didn't find informations about hdmi playback. I never tried it with my Transformer.

hdmi connection upscales picture

i connected the tf201 to my television screen through hdmi, but noticed the resolution on my tv was not the same as the tablet. it seems to be up-scaled and the sides are cut off. is there a way to change the settings on the output or fix the resolution?
On my Sony TV I have to change it on the TV to full pixle .
Nvidia always!
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On my Sony TV I have to change it on the TV to full pixle .
Nvidia always!
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so you changed the settings on the tv not the tablet?
It was probably just an aspect ratio setting on the TV
the desktop of the prime is 1280x800, which isn't a 16:9 aspect, but rather 16:10, so TV's unless they are told to scale the image to fit, will cut off the edges of the desktop.

Mixing adapters MHL -> HDMI -> VGA

Hey guys,
I have been researching this for a week at least, and eventually decided I wanted to be able to output video from my Note II to my HDMI products and my VGA projector. Now I have run into a somewhat small problem.
The MHL -> HDMI Cable Matters Gold Plated Premium MHL to HDMI Cable for Samsung Galaxy SIII & Galaxy Note 2 in Black - 6ft works perfectly alone
and the HDMI -> VGA Cable Matters Gold Plated Premium HDMI to VGA M/F Active Adapter in Black - also works perfectly alone
But when I connect them together using Female HDMI coupler it only outputs 640x480 60hz . I tested it with my projector and my ASUS monitor. I even tested just the coupler and worked fine.
Anyone have suggestions? I am running CleanAce 4.6 Rom rooted.
Summary: from Note II output from MHL to HDMI to VGA only outputs 640x480 60hz resolution
(on a side note i just ordered a micro hdmi to hdmi cable for my old droid x to see how that fares with the hdmi-vga adapter.)
standard VGA resolutions are 4:3 i.e. 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, etc. The video card in your Note II is sending on 720p which is 1280x720, which is not a standard VGA resolution, so it downscales to lowest supported *standard* resolution because HDMI does not support analog at all. This is typical behavior with a passive adapter. With that said, 720p over VGA *is* possible, but I think I would try a different approach, such as a Monoprice MHL-to-VGA adapter.
Also, using premium cables i.e. "Gold" for digital signals such as HDMI have absolutely no benefit. These types of cables became popular in the analog days by audiophiles, and they do help to prevent the degradation of analog signals, but not by a huge factor. Of course these companies that sell "Gold" HDMI cables know they are selling snake oil, but consumer don't seem to notice.
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standard VGA resolutions are 4:3 i.e. 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, etc. The video card in your Note II is sending on 720p which is 1280x720, which is not a standard VGA resolution, so it downscales to lowest supported *standard* resolution because HDMI does not support analog at all. This is typical behavior with a passive adapter. With that said, 720p over VGA *is* possible, but I think I would try a different approach, such as a Monoprice MHL-to-VGA adapter.
Also, using premium cables i.e. "Gold" for digital signals such as HDMI have absolutely no benefit. These types of cables became popular in the analog days by audiophiles, and they do help to prevent the degradation of analog signals, but not by a huge factor. Of course these companies that sell "Gold" HDMI cables know they are selling snake oil, but consumer don't seem to notice.
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Thanks for the info, in my opinion I think combining the adapters is blocking some function that checks back for resolution info. Anyway I totally agree with you on the cable premium stuff, I wanted to slap my parents when I learned their home theater system was put together with monster cables T_T. I just got the cords that were prime eligible and decently priced. Went for same brands hoping they might be more compatible.

Full 1080p video output instead of only 720p mirroring from Fire HD 6? Any idea how?

I have a rooted Fire HD 6 running Android 5.0. The tablet is mounted bedside as home automation control panel. Furthermore I'd like to use it as Plex Player to drive the video projector above my bed
I've purchased a MicroUSB SlimPort-to-HDMI adapter and AV basically works. The problem is that I only can mirror the tablets screen, which means the video output is only 1,280 by 800 pixels with a huge black frame surrounding it.
The Fire HD 6 hardware is capable of decoding full 1080p @ 60fps and the Slimport adapter supports 1080p as well.
Does anyone know how to squeeze full 1080p, so 1,920 by 1,280 out the MicroUSB port? I wouldn’t mind if the internal display would be shut off to do so (actual I'd prefer it). Is there a hack or app to adjust the Video output types and resolutions?

Slimport to VGA

Has anyone got experience of this? I have a cheap one which is working well. However the output is only 640*480. It says 1080p, but I'm assuming that's the 'input' resolution. What I'd really like it's an output of 1280*760 or better.
Has anyone got a slimport to VGA that's running better than 640*480?
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Wow, I haven't seen or used VGA over a decade, but to my knowledge it is limited to a hard 640x480 pixels and 256 colors. I believe you'll only find it used on old security camera systems. If you are down-converting a digital 1920x1080 resolution to VGA, prepare yourself for a 4:3 horrific image.
Is the connector using a 15-pin D-Sub? If so, it may be possible to use a higher resolution than the VGA standard. Link me to the cable you bought and I'll try to help you out further.
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Wow, I haven't seen or used VGA over a decade, but to my knowledge it is limited to a hard 640x480 pixels and 256 colors. I believe you'll only find it used on old security camera systems. If you are down-converting a digital 1920x1080 resolution to VGA, prepare yourself for a 4:3 horrific image.
Is the connector using a 15-pin D-Sub? If so, it may be possible to use a higher resolution than the VGA standard. Link me to the cable you bought and I'll try to help you out further.
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By saying VGA I guess OP meant D-Sub (at least that's what we often call it in Poland) and it should easily work with FHD resolution.
Back to the topic - no idea
Yes, VGA is working with FullHD and 32bit colors.
Amniak said:
By saying VGA I guess OP meant D-Sub (at least that's what we often call it in Poland) and it should easily work with FHD resolution.
Back to the topic - no idea
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Ah, then the question makes more sense. My fault.
The VGA Connector (aka DE-15) is able to handle up to a 2048x1536 resolution. The G3 should default to 1920x1080 depending on the cable. Wanna link us to the cable you bought, OP?
Yes that's right I meant the 15 pin connector, not VGA resolution.
Here is what I bought http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=231790943312&alt=web
I cannot see another one anywhere that looks like (in description) that it would be any different.
My monitor information tells me the resolution that it's running at.
Thanks for thoughts so far
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Okay, I assume that either no one uses VGA connector or it only runs at VGA resolution. Shame.
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