After 12+ years of being with Tmobile I am ready to move to AT&T and upgrade my iphone 3g. Long story short, I'm sick of the run around BS they have been giving me. On top of that using a jailbroken iphone 3g is practically unusable ever since I installed iOS 4.2.1 It would get stuck/lagg for like up to 5minutes. Not even being able to hard reboot. Being stuck on edge speed was excruciating while all my friends are speeding around in 3g/4g speed smartphones.
Anyways, the Samsung Note blew me away at the store yesterday and I'll be buying one tomorrow.
Any words of advice, tips, coupon codes, discounts I should now about before making my purchase? I'll be buying 2 lines but only 1 phone. The other line will be for my mother who to this day doesn't even know how to txt. So she'll be getting one of those .1 cent flip phones lol.
I'm a noob to the android community and I'm looking forward learning as much as I can about android/rooting.
BLASTphemus said:
Any words of advice, tips, coupon codes, discounts I should now about before making my purchase? I'll be buying 2 lines but only 1 phone. The other line will be for my mother who to this day doesn't even know how to txt. So she'll be getting one of those .1 cent flip phones lol.
I'm a noob to the android community and I'm looking forward learning as much as I can about android/rooting.
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Skip at&t and contract all together by getting StraightTalk with GNote. Saves a TON of money
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Skip at&t and contract all together by getting StraightTalk with GNote. Saves a TON of money
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Someone on here actually did the math before, and the price of an unsubsidized device isn't worth it (you save something like $95 a year) unless you only have 1 line on contract.
In response to the OP, I would definitely recommend using the second lines upgrade to get a 2nd Galaxy Note. You would have to pay for data for the first month, but after that you can shut it off.
The reason I say get a 2nd one is pretty obvious.. Throw it on craigslist the day you get it for $500, then spend $30 and get a cheap-o flip phone.
We commend you for making the transition from Apple.. you'll be much happier on this side of the fence. Open source owns.
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Someone on here actually did the math before, and the price of an unsubsidized device isn't worth it (you save something like $95 a year) unless you only have 1 line on contract.
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This is true, depending on how many people you have on contract. Typically though on a 1-2 person contract for unlimited plan, you save alot of money.
Truaim said:
Someone on here actually did the math before, and the price of an unsubsidized device isn't worth it (you save something like $95 a year) unless you only have 1 line on contract.
In response to the OP, I would definitely recommend using the second lines upgrade to get a 2nd Galaxy Note. You would have to pay for data for the first month, but after that you can shut it off.
The reason I say get a 2nd one is pretty obvious.. Throw it on craigslist the day you get it for $500, then spend $30 and get a cheap-o flip phone.
We commend you for making the transition from Apple.. you'll be much happier on this side of the fence. Open source owns.
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I was thinking of that but I'd rather wait out and see what the GS3 is all about.
Welcome.
Sent from the TermiNOTEr! ;-)
I came from tmo too. Its very hard to give up my $50 unlimited everything to pay twice as much for unlimed nothing. But tmo has been pissing me off a little at a time for a out 6 months now.
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Welcome to android!!! I jumped the apple ship also went from a slowing down 3gs,
this last os5 really slowed it down, its almost like they do it on purpose to
make you upgrade!!! Get Go launcher your able to change any icon to what
you want, you can slip in a few ios png's to make you feel more at home
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also get go sms it gives you familar pop up txt so you can answer where ever
your at without having to exit the app, nice on full screen apps where you cant
get to the notifications bar.
also foxfi is a cool wifi hotspot app that you can use without a root!!! works well
Thanks for the info! Man I can't wait for tomorrow!
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I came from tmo too. Its very hard to give up my $50 unlimited everything to pay twice as much for unlimed nothing. But tmo has been pissing me off a little at a time for a out 6 months now.
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I was in the same boat as you. Made the switch Friday and haven't looked back.
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Look for the half price deal on AT&T website.... The only catch is that you must order it online and must get two year service agreement....
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In response to the OP, I would definitely recommend using the second lines upgrade to get a 2nd Galaxy Note. You would have to pay for data for the first month, but after that you can shut it off.
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So If I add a 3rd line I can cxl the data plan after 30 days and only pay 9.99 a month on that line?
Thanks
CT
CrazyTomato76 said:
So If I add a 3rd line I can cxl the data plan after 30 days and only pay 9.99 a month on that line?
Thanks
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As long as the sim card is residing in a 'non-smartphone' or non-at&t device, you don't have to pay for data. Keep in mind this means you'll have to have another phone, you can't just pull the sim card out and stick it in a drawer.
Welcome to Android and AT&T if you decide to go that route!
I bought my Note at Sams's Club for $267.00
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Look for the half price deal on AT&T website.... The only catch is that you must order it online and must get two year service agreement....
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I take it you're referring to this:
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/de...are&siteId=dZCX6Je2w8Q-sBG3oO9zQ5oOdYyuLQ44IA
I've been trying this for the last three days. It used to include the Note, not anymore.
I want to switch from T-Mobile too but only until I can get this deal again.
It's been 4 days since I got my beloved Gnote. I couldn't be happier. I was worried about its size but I instantly got hooked on the screen size and it's rich/bright colors. For me the best part is the 4G LTE speeds. I had been on edge speed (jailbroken iphone) the past 4 years. I can't believe how fast I browse now. I'm disgusted with myself for settling on an edge only capable iphone 3g for such a long time.
Switching from the edge/iphone 3g to this device reminded me last year when I finally got around to get a new bed. I had been sleeping on a cheap queen size bed that was uncomfortable (often waking up to back aches) to a king size hybrid latex/foam mattress. I felt like I had been missing out on a good nights sleep all my life. lol
I can't wait to root this baby!
Straight Talk on the Note
shaolinx said:
Skip at&t and contract all together by getting StraightTalk with GNote. Saves a TON of money
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I use a Note on Straight Talk. Got the Note from Craigslist. The math I saw someone do was flawed. But to each their own. I really enjoy the service and the price. I feel richer!
I was at the AT&T store today. A kid was convincing his mom to get herself an iPhone 4S, his reasoning to her was "you can talk to it". I stood there and used Voice Search, opened browser, GMaps, and Navigation. I moved to the iPhone Display and put my phone next to one, then walked away.
Everything the mom was saying she wanted a smartphone phone was what I had just done/showed.
She walked to the iPhone display, picked one up and said, it's smaller, a lot smaller..
My job was done, saved someone today.
Related
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprin...vices-come-june-16-could-be-day-lte-goes-live
well $8 to $11 TEP for the new Sprint 4G LTE phones is pretty high for me. Now its has me thinking if i want a LTE phone now.
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Wow $150-$200 to replace a phone, better get a good case and stay the hell away from water.
Jfree3000 said:
Wow $150-$200 to replace a phone, better get a good case and stay the hell away from water.
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Yeah, pretty soon they will be charging us more for a replacement than the phones retail for.
Another awesome move by Sprint to show how much they appreciate their customers...oh wait, I mean another move by a failing company trying to squeeze every last penny from it's customers in hopes of staying afloat. Just file for bankruptcy already.
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It's cause of people that come in to have their phone replaced for stupid reasons (like light bleeding from around the bottom of the screen). It's whatever. It'll cost an extra 6 a month for me to cover my two phones. It's not like I'm going to up and leave my SERO plan.
I don't think its that bad honestly
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I don't think its that bad honestly
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I don't either. People need to realize that these phones are not cheap. Some reach the $600-$700 dollar mark. If I have to pay $11.00 a month for piece of mind that if I drop my $650.00 phone in the toilet, that I only have to pay $150.00 to $200.00 to get it replaced instead of $650.00.
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I don't either. People need to realize that these phones are not cheap. Some reach the $600-$700 dollar mark. If I have to pay $11.00 a month for piece of mind that if I drop my $650.00 phone in the toilet, that I only have to pay $150.00 to $200.00 to get it replaced instead of $650.00.
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Yeah I mean let's say you break ur phone once in 20 months that's 220+ the 150-200 total not all that bad IMO.n sometimes you get to upgrade cause they don't have it lol
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Well, I have had Sprint FOREVER. I have 4 of the old SERO accounts. And I've had TEP all along. It truly has paid for itself over the years. They gave me free upgrades to newer phones over and over. Samsung i-300 to i-330 to i-500 to Treo 600 to 650 to 700p to 755. Can't complain about that. I basically got a new phone once per year as my old phone would have something go wrong with it. Then I started back to buying new phones because I just could not wait for the latest and greatest.
All that being said, 4 lines at $11 each. Hmmm. That's $44 per month. Historically, I don't have to replace 1 out of the 4 phones any more often than once per year. So $528 per year to get a $150-$200 replacement. Starting to look like I could just buy a replacement phone off craigslist for a lot less. Heck, even a month after the Galaxy SII released, I could find them all day long on CL for $250-ish.
I guess a TEP decision is in my near future.
Maybe I should insure through Geek Squad, LOL!
Isn't this the same thing as the fee on 4G devices that started with the OG EVO? I'm assuming so.
Good thing I already have tep since 2004.
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Isn't this the same thing as the fee on 4G devices that started with the OG EVO? I'm assuming so.
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Nope. That is a high-speed data charge. This is an increased fee for the TEP (Total Equipment Protection) insurance policy that you can purchase from Sprint on a monthly basis.
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Good thing I already have tep since 2004.
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But if you get a new LTE phone, the new charges will still apply to you.
I dropped TEP years ago. Bought my last 2 phones(Epic, and Epic Touch) on craigslist for $200 each. Haven't had any problems with either.
eXplicit815 said:
It's cause of people that come in to have their phone replaced for stupid reasons (like light bleeding from around the bottom of the screen). It's whatever. It'll cost an extra 6 a month for me to cover my two phones. It's not like I'm going to up and leave my SERO plan.
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I stopped these stupid plans once they raised it to $100.00 deductable.
They are covered under warranty for 1 year any way and I tend to replace the phone every year anyway.
I don't use a case and have never needed a claim.
I could have 2 phones lost or dunked in the next 6 months and I'd still be ahead.
After a year you can usually find the phone for $200.00 new on ebay which is what you would have spent on TEP for 1 year plus the $100.00 deductable.
And they send you a refurb to boot.
Just not worth it any more.
Agreed. That is if you have to go through Asurion. You can just get phones off craigslist for cheaper. I didnt use TEP at all for my Evo 4g. Once for my Evo 3d but it was done free by sprint so there was no deductible on my part. Which brings me to this question. Are they still technically split in under 2 types of warranty? Certain $ amount for standard Sprint and the rest for Asurion? If this is the case I may still want to keep Sprint extended warranty and just get rid of Asurion. Atleast if it fails under Sprint warranty theres no deductible.
"if you don't like sprint (and or price changes that are stated to change at anytime in the contract THAT YOU SIGNED!!!!) then you can giiiit oouuutt"
Dropped TEP on our 3 lines a couple months ago. Daughter dropped her OG Evo and cracked the screen. Went to store and they said to call insurance for $100 replacement. They won't even deal with cracked screens any longer in store. USed to be they would change it out for no charge or even $30 or so. Decided to change out the screen myself and saved $50. Now I save $24 per month.
Does this mean if I upgrade from my evo 3d to a galaxy nexus they'll forcibly increase my TEP cost to $11 a month? (I pay $4 right now)
I Cancelled that crap like 6 months ago when i realized how much money I was giving them over 6 years and the one time I actually tried to use insurance(capacitive light staying lit) and they wouldn't fix it but wanted me to pay $100 to replace it with a used phone..
If I break my phone,im an idiot for being so careless and if I want to replace it I will pay the money to replace it.So needless to say,good for them,get that money but it wont me mine.
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But if you get a new LTE phone, the new charges will still apply to you.
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Yeah I didn't realize that until I read the Sprint ad again. Ah well. I think TEP is worth it.... Every phone I had with Sprint had some sort of issue and when I take it into Sprint, they usually replace it for free.
Why is my phone insurance getting to be as expensive as my motorcycle insurance? I can't do wheelies on my phone at 80 on busy highways
Just going through some ebay listings of the phone.
Looking at those that have closed in the last 2 weeks, I see prices from upper 400's to mid 700's.
This listing here really takes the cake though.
$740!!! At least the buyer got free shipping. I thought $200 alot to pay, but [email protected]!#, $740!!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE-16GB-Black-Sprint-Smartphone-NEW-Clean-ESN-/230798472902
I see a few others have closed at ~$700 too.
gpz1100 said:
Just going through some ebay listings of the phone.
Looking at those that have closed in the last 2 weeks, I see prices from upper 400's to mid 700's.
This listing here really takes the cake though.
$740!!! At least the buyer got free shipping. I thought $200 alot to pay, but [email protected]!#, $740!!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE-16GB-Black-Sprint-Smartphone-NEW-Clean-ESN-/230798472902
I see a few others have closed at ~$700 too.
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*Raises Hand*
Well I was the Winner of that $740 dollar Evo and I find it to be worth every penny lol. I was off contract with an amazon preorder and canceled it in desperation when we had no date. Believe it or not I actually got it faster and cheaper than off contract at BestBuy which would have come ~$760. My OG Evo crapped out and I was completely phone-less so time was of the essence and I was shooting in the dark.
Tl;DR You know exactly how much I was willing to pay . Winning bidder: Crowordove
Also I think it's the funniest thing ever to be called out for my Evo desperation especially since I'm on XDA and got to be a part of it lol.
Is it really that worthwhile to remain off contract? You're still paying monthly service charges equal to what someone on-contract is paying. Your only benefit is the ability to cancel service at any time. Now if they gave you a year's worth of free service for paying the whole lot up front, that might be worth it.
Thanks for chiming in.
Edit: Not calling you out personally, just trying to get a grasp on how folks justify such purchases. I've heard of people paying exorbitant amounts on other devices - iphones, ipads, etc.
gpz1100 said:
Is it really that worthwhile to remain off contract? You're still paying monthly service charges equal to what someone on-contract is paying. Your only benefit is the ability to cancel service at any time. Now if they gave you a year's worth of free service for paying the whole lot up front, that might be worth it.
Thanks for chiming in.
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Actually I'm in my 2 year contract coming up on year one here shortly. I'm paying off contract for a phone to use on my current contract. I was an Og Evo buyer a little over a month before the Evo 3d and decided to wait it out and chalk it up to bad luck. So this time I jumped for the new phone instead of a referbed Evo that I would have had to buy out of pocket anyway. The best part about it is I get an upgrade next year if I choose to use it
I think knowing that you can up and leave without penalty is a certain sense of security, in which I also enjoy being locked into a contract. i've been eligible to upgrade both phone lines for over 4 years, and just never had because i never found a phone I liked enough. My main phone was a Sanyo MM9000 (I have lots of them collected) due to it's ability to make calls in other countries without being charged and the data usage not being able to be monitored, etc. I was tethering on that phone for years with no fees, lol. My 2nd line was a Touch Pro which was basically the perfect phone, just too slow. Had they put this proc in it, it would be great!
Anyways, I upgraded both lines at the same time with pre-orders, one came in, they f'd up my order and only had 1 phone ready because they thought it was supposed to be one, then my other came later. The 2nd I already had buyers lined up wanting to pay $650+, but due to the idiots at BB's error, by the time I got my 2nd phone, they were released so now I just have my 2nd phone sitting on craigslist for $500.00 until it sells. And my 2nd line is back on the Touch Pro it was on previously.
First EVO = $200 - $50 pre-order GC with BB - $75 in gift certificates I had, so I paid $75.00 for my HTC EVO 4G LTE
Second EVO = $200 - $50 pre-order GC with BB on my 2nd line. I paid $150 for that one, but once it sells for $500, I will have basically been paid to get one.
This is definitely the best phone out right now. I'm still amazed at how much you can do with it, and I have been experimenting with WEP cracking, lol. Going to see if I can get the right adapters to use my external WiFi antenna with it, then load up BackTrak3 on it. ;-p
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O_O
how much do they cost full price?
I just bought one brand new off craigslist for 400 last night....wow
Out of contract list at sprint is 550.00 + tax....any one got a better no contract price for a new EVO LTE?...I'm all ears because I'm out of contract
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Uh, $549 direct from sprint or walmart no contract
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redhatter said:
Out of contract list at sprint is 550.00 + tax....any one got a better no contract price for a new EVO LTE?...I'm all ears because I'm out of contract
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I saw 2 craigslist listing in Boston for $500.
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O_O
how much do they cost full price?
I just bought one brand new off craigslist for 400 last night....wow
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~$700 Bestbuy has them listed for that off contract as well as Amazon without the discounts they apply. After Amazons discount they are $550.
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I love forum picture fights.
Seriously though it was cost effective for me and I don't expect anyone else to agree with me. My Evo LTE has been and will continue to be worth every penny to me.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-...vember-13-stay-tuned-for-our-coverage_id36513
HTC DROID DNA for Verizon lands on November 13, stay tuned for our coverage
November 20 is quoted as a potential launch date
Agreed, each year I become more and more frustrated with them. Planned on leaving and getting the Note 2 on another carrier but it's cheaper for me to stay with VZW
My contract ends March 2013 so I'm thinking of moving onto my friends T-Mobile line instead of adding a ghost line on my family's just to get the Note 2.
Effing ridiculous.
Dear Verizon,
Due to the poor PR on this phone, my poor fingers will have arthritis for scouring the internet for a simple little date. As an apology for your negligence, I will accept an apology in the form of a Fedex package on my office desk.
Hmm. Maybe I'll buy this, just to pass the time waiting for the Note2. Then, return it once it comes out.
We have 14 days to return a phone, right?
wooties said:
Hmm. Maybe I'll buy this, just to pass the time waiting for the Note2. Then, return it once it comes out.
We have 14 days to return a phone, right?
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lol I thought about doing the same thing. Yes they do have a 14 day return window, but you have to pay a restocking fee.
Sucks big time. Its even cheaper than the note 2. Am just waiting for other carriers to ramp up their Late coverage
Vzw does suck.
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lol I thought about doing the same thing. Yes they do have a 14 day return window, but you have to pay a restocking fee.
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$35 restocking fee.. to have a sweet phone to play with for ~14 days then get my even more sweet phone... I'm seriously tempted.
It makes sense though if this phone is indeed released on the 20th that they would not want the Note II in-stores on the 23rd as well. It would obviously take away from their DNA sales... but seems so BS to me that this could possibly be a major factor in why we are getting the phone so late, maybe the only factor.
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Wait...so we could get this the 20th and play with it then return it for the Note 2? Oh I'm doing that...
computingwarren said:
Wait...so we could get this the 20th and play with it then return it for the Note 2? Oh I'm doing that...
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Re-stocking fee. Not worth it IMO, buy some accessories instead.
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Re-stocking fee. Not worth it IMO, buy some accessories instead.
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I already got plenty for it with the 50% off Samsung code.
Battery and dock for $25, 2 flip case for $40 and 1 tpu for $15
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I already got plenty for it with the 50% off Samsung code.
Battery and dock for $25, 2 flip case for $40 and 1 tpu for $15
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Then save up for your new phone, IDK. Getting a phone just to play with it for a few days seems pointless, what happens if you drop it and break it? Scuff it beyond repair, etc... Just isn't worth it IMO.
Well guys, looks like the phone is up on VZW site for preorder 11/19 ship date.
and lol
Battery
2020mAh Standard Li–Ion; non–removable
Usage Time – up to 12.8hrs OR
Standby Time – up to 14.7 days
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Then save up for your new phone, IDK. Getting a phone just to play with it for a few days seems pointless, what happens if you drop it and break it? Scuff it beyond repair, etc... Just isn't worth it IMO.
Well guys, looks like the phone is up on VZW site for preorder 11/19 ship date.
and lol
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12 hours has to be a joke. Lol that battery is super small.
Talked to a rep and obviously BS'd a bit.
Shawn M.: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
You: Yeah, I wanted to order the note II
You: I just had a question about why is this phone being released so much later than the other carriers?
Shawn M.: Fantastic I am happy to help you.
You: Is it because of the DNA? I can't decide between the two
Shawn M.: No it is because they are selling out very quickly and they are on backorder.
Shawn M.: What do you like about them?
You: I like the stylus one one, but then again since I can get the DNA so much faster I might prefer that
You: But here is my question, so if the stock is filled before the 27th, can we expect the Note II before that date?
Shawn M.: It could happen yes but It will most likely not come before then.
You: A lot of people have said online that the 15th is a possibility, so i'm guessing those are just rumors? I myself was told by a VZW employee at a store near me that this was also true
Shawn M.: It can happen but i don't want to get your hopes up and then it not come early.
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Then save up for your new phone, IDK. Getting a phone just to play with it for a few days seems pointless, what happens if you drop it and break it? Scuff it beyond repair, etc... Just isn't worth it IMO.
Well guys, looks like the phone is up on VZW site for preorder 11/19 ship date.
and lol
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The battery is pretty bad, but what about 16GB storage with no SD card? That right there makes this phone a no for me. All of my apps/games alone cant fit on my Nexus 7 16GB version, and thats with no photos or movies. The screen is apparently one of the primary selling points for this phone. What good is it without the ability to have several HD movies and photos available on the device, in addition to all of your apps/games? I'd rather wait impatiently for Verizon to release the Note II.
Release isn't until the 21st, pre-order starts today.
Going to chat and see if I can get the DNA when it's released and play with it and return for Note 2. Restock isn't a problem. I just got a new job.
Quoting someone from AC because their assessment is correct.
"I dont see how people on a 2gb shared data plan can use this phone without upping their data plan. Which is exactly why Verizon ordered the phone without an microSD slot."
Lol, she didn't seem to enthusiastic.
Khyiera: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
Austin: I was looking at adding a new line and getting the Note 2. I see the DNA is out before then. My question is, can I add a line, get the DNA, play with it and see if i like it and if i don't, return it for the Note 2 when it releases?
Austin: I know it will be within the 14 day return policy.
Khyiera: Yes you can.
Austin: My main problem was the battery. I see the DNA has a 2000mah battery and Note 2 has a 3100 mah battery and that's a big thing for me.
Austin: But, okay. Just wanted to make sure I could do that. I understand there is a restock fee, how much is it?
Khyiera: $35
Austin: Okay, I appreciate your help today.
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Instead of the DNA, I may switch to a different phone that's cheaper. $200, then $35 and another $100 is expensive.
My GNEX has terrible signal now a days and batter. Gonna have to look and see what's good to use for 2 weeks.
This is not specific to the Verizon Galaxy S4, but it is indeed the only reason I will preorder the Verizon version tomorrow (as opposed to switching to another carrier).
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I imagine that's the only scenario in which I would go with Verizon's GS4. Right now their most attractive offer is $70/month for 3G speed, 2GB of data, and unlimited talk/text. Pretty much worthless in my eyes.
Too bad we have to wait 30+ damn days longer than everyone else because they're morons.
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I imagine that's the only scenario in which I would go with Verizon's GS4. Right now their most attractive offer is $70/month for 3G speed, 2GB of data, and unlimited talk/text. Pretty much worthless in my eyes.
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Agreed, especially when T-Mobile offers unlimited everything for the same cost (technically cheaper because I know T-Mobile has smaller fees and taxes).
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Too bad we have to wait 30+ damn days longer than everyone else because they're morons.
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They're not morons. They know exactly what they're doing with those dates.
On a serious note though: Nevertheless, somehow still worth the wait just to have the number 1 wireless network in the country. Come on, is our impatience really worth getting mad at them?
I agree. Paying the extra $450 to get it off contract will MORE than pay itself back bay keeping the unlimited plan. I use my Vulkano Box to placeshift to my phone or tether to my tablet and watch on that. I'm using close to 8 GB a month. Nothing close to you, but enough to pay off contract and keep my plan is well worth it.
I have grandfathered unlimited for $63/month. But youre saying that Verizon gets the S4 a month later than everyone else? Don't know if I can wait that long.
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I have grandfathered unlimited for $63/month. But youre saying that Verizon gets the S4 a month later than everyone else? Don't know if I can wait that long.
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You're really willing to give up a carrier (especially arguably the best carrier service available at this time that you won't be able to get back ever again after losing it) all because you can't wait one more month for a phone?
If you're going to go down that route you should consider not wasting away that service of yours and selling your line to someone else to take over. Grandfathered Unlimited Data plans on Verizon are as good as gold right now.
These eBay results speak for themselves: Link Here
And these are all the completed sale to give you an idea how much you can make on it: Link Here
I have two unlimited data lines that I took over for free last year right before they took away the upgrades. I bought an iPhone 4s and managed to preorder the galaxy s3 because both lines were eligible for upgrdes at the time. I consider myself lucky. I tether and share with my ATT friends at work I burn like 30gb a month verizon has never bothered me. I'm thinking Bout going to t mobile though to cut down on my bill and get gsm nexus phones
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Wow, I didn't even know it was possible to purchase Grandfather plans from other people. Kind of tempting actually, but I'd hold off until I had more scratch. As it is, I'm buying the GS4 for full retail+accessories+new monthly data plan. Good to know it's an open option though.
Wow, Assuming that is mostly streaming video? I don't think I watch that much video on my HTPC a month at 8 to 12 GB per movie, lol. Must be nice having that kind of free time on your hands.
I tether to my gaming laptop to play online games I think it burns a lot of data. Also I use xbmc to stream movies and do some Torrenting. I might skip out on gs4 and wait to see a phone with that snapdragon 800 chip I'm very interested in the quickcharge 2.0 it has that they decided to leave out on the 600 sadly
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My friend has a grandfathered unlimited data plan but to upgrade to LTE he has to sacrifice it. What's up with that?
Verizon is trying to kill off unlimited data users and forcing them to pay $50 for 1gb
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My friend has a grandfathered unlimited data plan but to upgrade to LTE he has to sacrifice it. What's up with that?
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Specific rule Verizon enforced. 3G to 4G basically means new contract to them even if you buy the phone full price they have to "upgrade" your plan as well to allow you to connect to LTE: Details Here
Details on how to keep unlimited: Link Here
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Specific rule Verizon enforced. 3G to 4G basically means new contract to them even if you buy the phone full price they have to "upgrade" your plan as well to allow you to connect to LTE: Details Here
Details on how to keep unlimited: Link Here
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So the link above is good info, but is there any more detail missing? I've got unlimited LTE on my Galaxy Nexus and plan on pre-ordering the S4 tomorrow at full retail 649.99. Is there anything to be cautious of when placing the order?
I shouldn't have to change plans or anything, but is there anyway I could screw this up?
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open1your1eyes0 said:
Specific rule Verizon enforced. 3G to 4G basically means new contract to them even if you buy the phone full price they have to "upgrade" your plan as well to allow you to connect to LTE: Details Here
Details on how to keep unlimited: Link Here
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Does that mean I lose my unlimited either way since I only have 3g right now, even if I buy without a new contract?
My sister in law went from the droid x to the Verizon galaxy nexus last month and did NOT lose unlimited. She just went and picked up a Sims card and popped the ***** in. Took maybe 2 minutes for the phone to be fully functional. Her plan wasn't changed at all. If you take upgrade price you will lose it
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So the link above is good info, but is there any more detail missing? I've got unlimited LTE on my Galaxy Nexus and plan on pre-ordering the S4 tomorrow at full retail 649.99. Is there anything to be cautious of when placing the order?
I shouldn't have to change plans or anything, but is there anyway I could screw this up?
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Pretty much it's simple. To avoid losing your unlimited data you have to meet the below requirements:
Be already on an LTE device with an unlimited data plan
Purchase your new device all full retail or on the new device payment plan (dividing full price into 12 monthly payments)
Avoid using an "upgrade" on the line you have unlimited data on at all costs!!
Try to avoid making any little other unrelated changes in your service (you never want to give them a excuse to force you over to tiered)
If you have other lines that can upgrade (like family plans) you can use their upgrade to get the device at the cheaper price and then just swap your microSIM card into it
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Does that mean I lose my unlimited either way since I only have 3g right now, even if I buy without a new contract?
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Unfortunately it appears to be the case. But who knows, maybe if you yell loudly enough and threaten to leave Verizon unless they can confirm they will keep your unlimited data, maybe someone will be able to do some "behind-the-scenes magic" and transition over for you. But in all reality, without a serious fight for it I wouldn't count on keeping it if you upgrade even at full price.
Well if I spend $650 on the phone, I damn well will scream at them if they tell me I still lose unlimited. I'm going to have to try to find out before I do anything I guess, not like I have anything else to do for 36 damn days.
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I tether to my gaming laptop to play online games I think it burns a lot of data. Also I use xbmc to stream movies and do some Torrenting. I might skip out on gs4 and wait to see a phone with that snapdragon 800 chip I'm very interested in the quickcharge 2.0 it has that they decided to leave out on the 600 sadly
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See I guess there it is. I am never really in a situation anymore where I would tether my laptop. Our laptop is four years old and basically sits at the end of our kitchen table. We are pretty much 100% tablets for mobile computing now. I don't have time for in depth games much anymore. Work/gym/kids eats all my time. And if I am going to sit and "do computer", I am going to do it in the study in a proper chair with a proper keyboard, a big monitor, a mouse, and fast tower pc. Laptops have been squeezed out of my personal life by the superior overall experience of a real desktop set up and the superior portability of a tablet. Don't get me wrong...my work computer is a laptop, but I don't see much need for one for personal stuff the way my life is set up now.
I guess if I were a single twenty-something it would be different, but really, I don't have much of a need for big data mobile computing.
So, this is just a write up of my switch from Verizon to Straight Talk and (Probably) everything in between.
So basically, this starts out with me being on Verizon for 9 years, ever since I owned my first flip phone. Although, every year it became harder and harder to stay on Verizon, especially with Nexus's devices coming out and basically all the "Cool" phones on the other carriers and Verizon being more and more money hungry and caring less and less about the customer. Sadly, Verizon just had the best coverage and moderate prices (Grandfathered onto Unlimited data). No one could match what I had.
I stuck it out with Verizon, although I hated everything about the company, there was no easy or cheap alternative that could match Verizon's data coverage (Or so I thought), but finally I got my break. Well not that easily, I spent all of the weekend thinking about different options to take with my plan since it will be ending in December (I'm also bundled my parents plan and need to get off of it so it's either try my luck with Verizon or find an alternative and finally get away from this hell hole of a company). I even took a drive to T-Mobile to test out a Nexus 4, and ended at Best Buy seeing what they would give me for my phone ($250 for anyone who is wandering, which isn't bad since the best I could find on Swappa/Craigslist was around $300) to see if I could buy one straight up. Although this sounded like a great idea, I could never go to T-Mobile with their spotty coverage, and AT&T is just as bad as Verizon with the same prices, I had no other options in terms of a GSM carrier.
Although the Nexus 4 is one hell of a device, I just couldn't force myself to get it with the Nexus 5 coming out so soon. So I did some looking and finally found out that it's actually pretty simple to get a Verizon phone onto another network (Since the Verizon Note 2 has LTE/CDMA/GSM bands). So I pulled the trigger and bought a Straight Talk SIM card and an unlimited everything plan for $55. This was a small price to pay to test if there was a cheap and unlimited alternative to Verizon that was able to somewhat rival their coverage. Again, this was more of a test than anything for me to see if I am going to stick it out with Verizon or move to a prepaid carrier.
I ended up going with the AT&T SIM as T-Mobile get's almost no reception in my area (As proven by my friends who have them and never have service) and got my SIM card in the mail yesterday. I was on CM10.2 for the Verizon Note 2 and was ready to just stick this card in and go, of course it wouldn't be as simple as just putting the card in and going right? Well yea, it did take a little messing around. First thing first, I put the card in, activated it per usual, and was actually able to get data, calling and I could receive texts. I couldn't on the other hand, send texts and didn't have signal bars in the status bar. So I played around with APN's for a while and couldn't get it to work. So I tried moving to a Touchwiz ROM. Of course the first I tried was just a stock rooted and low and behold Verizon blocks you from using SIM cards that aren't from Verizon (Did I mention how much I hate Verizon?).
I then went on to try Beans ROM and low and behold, no setup required, turned it on and it was good to go. Everything working, I had a smile from ear to ear just having this actually work. I never knew from the beginning if Straight Talk or even another SIM would work in my phone so everything was a crap shoot until it would finally work, but was lucky enough to have it work! Although, I could have stopped there, I just can't stand Touchwiz so I decided today I would give CM another shot. Still didn't work even when messing with APN's so I thought what the hell, let's try something crazy. Backed up my current ROM and tried flashing the toLTE CM10.2 ROM and of course it failed since my phone isn't the N7105. So I dug a little deeper, and copied the updater-script from the Verizon version to the toLTE version and it installed! So, I reboot it and think, man, I'm going to get stuck in a boot loop, but maybe I was just lucky today as I made it straight to my home screen, even better, I had full data, signal bars working, and was able to send texts. I thought this was amazing. I literally had my cake and was able to eat it too, until I tried GPS. Which of course didn't work. Another hour of trying crap and finally tried just copying the GPS.conf from the Verizon CM ROM over and low and behold, I had GPS! So I now have a perfectly working phone, on CM10.2 using a Straight Talk SIM/contract, using AT&T's network, all for $45 a month.
I'm sure a lot of you will read this and want your 5/10/15 minutes back, but this is just for the few that want to break away but don't have the hundreds of dollars to switch to different carriers, different phones, different plans just to find one that works. I was in this boat, and know how it feels. I have been using this phone for roughly a day and am going to make sure I have service everywhere I need it before making my final decision (So far work and home have full H+), but if all goes well will be finally ditching Verizon at the end of the year and getting myself a Nexus that I won't have to worry about having slow updates because my carrier is lazy. At this point, I couldn't be happier and hopefully get some of you guys to at least give it a shot like I did.
Please post a reply or DM me if you have any questions on my process, I will be more than happy to help out as much as I can!
So for anyone who doesn't believe me or those of you "Pics or it didn't happen!". This is from my phone, using the Straight Talk SIM. Data speeds are no where near Verizon's nor is the ping but I am on WiFi 90% of the time anyways so just having a data correction is my main priority.
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Love it, I've been thinking about escape for some time so I appreciate the write up. The Note 2 is the best phone I've ever used, but I've debated whether to sign my life away with Verizon again for the 3.
I tried the T-Mobile route and the coverage was so abysmal I scurried back. This gives me hope for another option. What sort of data speeds do you get when needed?
Thank you for taking the time to write that up. I was thinking about doing the same thing last year but was worried about the decrease in data. I've read in numerous threads that data just plain sucks with Straight Talk.
Could you give us an update periodically on this? Thnx!!!
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...art-sued-over-unlimited-data-claim/2013-08-08
No thanks. Been doing 30gb a month with Verizon. Looks like I'd be SOL with straight talk.
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nosympathy said:
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...art-sued-over-unlimited-data-claim/2013-08-08
No thanks. Been doing 30gb a month with Verizon. Looks like I'd be SOL with straight talk.
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This was more just for a general prepaid plan. I just so happened to pick Straight Talk. So far up to 6.7 GB of usage with no issue.
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This was more just for a general prepaid plan. I just so happened to pick Straight Talk. So far up to 6.7 GB of usage with no issue.
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Good lord you guys are data hogs!
How's the voice coverage? my 4 person family plan with only 6GB between the 4 of us is $237 a month. 4 * $45 would be a big improvement and of course, I could stop yelling at the kids for watching youtube all the time.
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Good lord you guys are data hogs!
How's the voice coverage? my 4 person family plan with only 6GB between the 4 of us is $237 a month. 4 * $45 would be a big improvement and of course, I could stop yelling at the kids for watching youtube all the time.
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As I said, for me I was able to get data/voice everywhere that I went, but remember I was using AT&T's towers so it may change depending on the carrier you go with. My month is coming to an end and I have about 2 more months before I have to finally decide, but it is looking like a go as of right now.
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As I said, for me I was able to get data/voice everywhere that I went, but remember I was using AT&T's towers so it may change depending on the carrier you go with. My month is coming to an end and I have about 2 more months before I have to finally decide, but it is looking like a go as of right now.
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Mike,
Thnx for the continued updates. Come back when it's go time and let us know if you permanently made the shift.
I've been considering doing exactly this, its great to know that our handsets will work with these SIMs. Did you port your number over or chose a new one? I'm curious as to how hard it would be to do so.
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I've been considering doing exactly this, its great to know that our handsets will work with these SIMs. Did you port your number over or chose a new one? I'm curious as to how hard it would be to do so.
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I personally had to get a new number as I didn't make the full switch yet but I know that Straight Talk does give you the option to port a number over.
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I've been considering doing exactly this, its great to know that our handsets will work with these SIMs. Did you port your number over or chose a new one? I'm curious as to how hard it would be to do so.
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Porting my number to T-Mobile was incredibly easy. I'm sure it's just as easy as Straight Talk. During the setup you're asked whether you want to get a new number or port your current number. That's it. Took only a few hours for everything to fully switch over to my Nexus 4 and I was on my way. I have one bill left for Verizon with my ETF and then I'll be completely free from them.
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This is really great to see. I was thinking about doing the same thing but I am worried about coverage issues.
I was in a similar situation, I have had Verizon for years on my family unlimited plan and I needed to get off of my parents' plan, so I gave Sprint a shot because I have a friend that has it. What he didn't tell me was that he has always had abysmal service everywhere, a point I discovered when I lost service repeatedly just walking across the house. Calls would drop out and I'd be lucky to even be able to send a text message in most places at work.
I abandoned ship pretty quickly and went crying back to Verizon. Unfortunately there was no way to recover unlimited data, but I checked and I only used an average of ~1.5GB a month anyway. Went in on the 4GB plan with my brother.
Verizon really doesn't care about their customers, and that goes all the way from corporate to the stores. Their customer service is pitiful. I missed one payment and they put my account on cash only for SIX MONTHS. That means I literally have to go into the store and feed a machine cash for 6 months or I can't pay my bill. Not online, not over the mobile app, not even over the phone. If you call and ask them about it they treat you like you're some second class citizen that isn't worth their time, or they just spout off how they have no control over anything.
I've also noticed over the years that the employees in the store have less and less power over anything. They can do almost nothing for your account aside from activate your new phone. You have to call customer service to do anything. If they didn't have the best coverage around by leaps and bounds, I'd never use them again.