Hello there,
I want to root my phone (for the very first time) to make a backup and then install the ressurection remix 1.0 rom.
But i keep hitting walls.
The first method i tried was the zergling method, but it seems that is not possible because i got 2.3.6. I didnt get the superuser app anyway.
Then i started doing the other method described here http://galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-s2/#comment-3262
But it asks you to write down your kernelnumber and then download that kernel + insecure kernel. And my kernel is not among the list?
http://hotfile.com/list/1967350/4304d29
Can I use another kernel from this download list? Or is there a place where i can download the correct files?
Nevermind I kinda failed there
Anyway you can check out CF-Root which is a kernel you can flash through Odin for instant root.
Kernel is 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKK2 (gingerbread)
There is a kernel called XWKK5 also in that list, can i use that? What's the worste thing that can happen if i pick the wrong one?
The best way to root your phone is with a CF-Root kernel using Odin.The kernel you want is here,
http://download.chainfire.eu/53/CF-Root/SGS2/CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_KK2-v5.0-CWM5.zip
To find out why just read this page,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Unzip it and put it in PDA in Odin and hit START without selecting anything else.It will take about 3 seconds.
EDIT:about your last post.Choosing the wrong kernel will/could brick your phone.
To be honest I've flashed about 30 different kernels through rooting, there's not much large consequences except maybe a bootloop but a restore through Odin can fix that
True.If its one thats close to the one your on then your pretty much o.k. and if you ask on the forum you can always find a close fitting kernel anyway.
Yay guys I did it, I used the CF root method posted here so thanks for the tip! And it all works out great, i got ressurection 1.0 installed now and runs as a dream so far!
Thanks im so happy i did this it seemed so daunting and complex at first but once it was all over it was much easier then it seemed.
DarkOmnius said:
Yay guys I did it, I used the CF root method posted here so thanks for the tip! And it all works out great, i got ressurection 1.0 installed now and runs as a dream so far!
Thanks im so happy i did this it seemed so daunting and complex at first but once it was all over it was much easier then it seemed.
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No worries mate.True that at first its a bit to much to take in and your also scared of BRICKING...your phone but its not that hard in the end
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Although I've flashed non-phone devices in the past (routers, PAP2, Ipod classic, etc.) This is the first time I'm going to be flashing a SmartPhone that I've ordered which I should be getting very soon.
I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S II and have been crawling the forum trying to learn all I can before I try rooting and unlocking my phone when I get it. But I'm having trouble deciding on a few things.
Hopefully my question can become a guide for other new people who are just starting off like me.
Rooting:
To begin, I'm trying to figure out what's best for rooting.
I've looked at a few different methods..
Chainfire's direct method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
lyriquidperfection's one-click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125414
CLShortFuse's one-click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
LitePro's ROM and Root method all-in-one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095274
All of these have their own merits. But I'm trying to figure out the best approach for myself.
Although Lightn'ing (LitePro's) looks interesting and I may try that ROM later, for now I want to avoid changing the ROM till I know I like the phone. So I'm looking at the first three choices.
The one that I think I would be able to do easiest is either lyriquidperfection's or CLShortFuse's methods as they both are one-click solutions and I just need to grab the right kernels.
I don't know if there's any reason I would want to go with Chainfire's instead of the two previously mentioned. If there is please let me know.
I asked this question on the respective threads but as of posting haven't gotten an answer of if there's any reason to flash the original kernel back after rooting and if I keep root if I flash it back.
I also don't know much about the use of Jigs to avoid the flash counter going up. Is there any reason I need to worry about the flash counter going up? Is there a limit on number of flashes on a phone?
Unlocking:
For unlocking I looked at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092451
However it seems for my specific phone (Virgin/Bell) we use this method as posted in the same thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16482293#post16482293
This seems pretty much straight-forward. I just got to root the phone then get and run the app mentioned. Phone will crash/reboot and then no SIM lock.
If there's anything that seems wrong with this let me know please.
Other stuff:
At some stage here I want to be able to back up the stuff on the phone and get other typical tools.
I keep hearing about ClockWorkMod constantly and it seems to be a tool for backing up the phone data and making it easier to flash stuff in without use of ODIN.
I haven't found clear documentation on how I would do this on the SGII specifically.
I also here Titanium backup (sp?) is also a good idea to install at some point.
Is there other apps or otherwise I should be looking into before I start this journey into the wonderful world of hacked smartphones?
-This is a place marker for me making amendments so that later this may be more or less a guide for other beginners-
Dav_Edward said:
Although I've flashed non-phone devices in the past (routers, PAP2, Ipod classic, etc.) This is the first time I'm going to be flashing a SmartPhone that I've ordered which I should be getting very soon.
I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S II and have been crawling the forum trying to learn all I can before I try rooting and unlocking my phone when I get it. But I'm having trouble deciding on a few things.
Hopefully my question can become a guide for other new people who are just starting off like me.
Rooting:
To begin, I'm trying to figure out what's best for rooting.
I've looked at a few different methods..
Chainfire's direct method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
lyriquidperfection's one-click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125414
CLShortFuse's one-click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
LitePro's ROM and Root method all-in-one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095274
All of these have their own merits. But I'm trying to figure out the best approach for myself.
Chainfires simplest method less problems for most .
Root + CWM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
I also don't know much about the use of Jigs to avoid the flash counter going up. Is there any reason I need to worry about the flash counter going up? Is there a limit on number of flashes on a phone?
Zero as Samsung will invalidate warranty for custom roms or rooted phones .
Other stuff:
At some stage here I want to be able to back up the stuff on the phone and get other typical tools.
I keep hearing about ClockWorkMod constantly and it seems to be a tool for backing up the phone data and making it easier to flash stuff in without use of ODIN.
I haven't found clear documentation on how I would do this on the SGII specifically.
Their is no documentation its probably written up in the FAQ or Wip but is a relativity simple tool anyway .Backup restore phones rom install custom rom wipe data factory reset reset battery stats to zero .
FAQ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065995
Wip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
I also here Titanium backup (sp?) is also a good idea to install at some point.
On a rooted phone Titanium pro allows you to back up your apps and also to freeze apps .
jje
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Thorough stuff, props to you sir - you know search so you'll get your first thanks...
I would advice you to go with Chainfire's method. It's the easiest and most versatile method IMO. Definitely the best for beginners because you keep your stock ROM yet still are rooted and get Clockwork Mod.
The installed CWM (Clockwork Mod) Manager app with Chainfire's work is an easy way to see what it does - basically you can backup and restore your whole system/device, plus flash custom ROM/kernels/themes etc. Look into the flashing part later - baby steps are good here!
Titanium Backup is an excellent backup app for backing up/restoring apps and data, as opposed to the whole system. Buy the Pro version, definitely worth it.
I also like My Backup (also on Market), excellent for backing up contacts/SMS/MMS. The free version is a 30 day trial.
Can't help with unlocking, never needed to - sure others can help.
Good luck
Edit - JJ beat me too it, hadn't seen his post. Must type faster...
@JJEgan & @B3311, thanks for the useful information.
I was going to try those one-click methods because I thought those were the more newbie friendly methods. Thanks for the information to try using Chainfire's instead.
I will try using Chainfire's method instead with your advice when I get the phone. Having the tools like his CWM hopefully will make things easier.
I am a bit concerned though about his mention that Rom Loader won't work with his version of the build. I'd still like the ability to use custom roms down the road once I learn how to properly back up the phone so I can experiment with various roms till I find the one I like most.
Any advice about using rom loader or other possible difficulties using Chainfire's kernel?
Dav_Edward said:
@JJEgan & @B3311, thanks for the useful information.
I was going to try those one-click methods because I thought those were the more newbie friendly methods. Thanks for the information to try using Chainfire's instead.
I will try using Chainfire's method instead with your advice when I get the phone. Having the tools like his CWM hopefully will make things easier.
I am a bit concerned though about his mention that Rom Loader won't work with his version of the build. I'd still like the ability to use custom roms down the road once I learn how to properly back up the phone so I can experiment with various roms till I find the one I like most.
Any advice about using rom loader or other possible difficulties using Chainfire's kernel?
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Most just put custom rom on sd card and flash via CWM .
Sorry no nothing about Rom Loader .
jje
I would also advice using CF-Root. I was scared of rooting my phone, but after using CF-Root, I don’t know why I was so scared. The process took a little over 30 seconds (I need practice). To me at lease I think it’s the easiest method, you just need to make sure to download the right kernel.
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Get a UBS jig, After rooting, I had the "yellow triangle" I turned off phone, removed battery, inserted jig, put back battery, entered download mode, restarted phone and no more "yellow triangle"
so i have the i777 and i rooted using a guide on the android central forum
basically i downloaded kies, odin, cwm, and superoneclick
i put the cwm.tar file through odin, and than ran superoneclick, and i was rooted pretty easily
i than downloaded rom manager and through there i flashed CWM. I tried to make a back up using rom manager but that failed, no biggie i hear other people have the same problem. I boot up into CWM using rom manager and it says stuff like "failed to verify whole file signature"
im not sure if this means i rooted incorrectly?
i made a back up just fine using CWM. However i found out this stuff about flash increments and how i flashed a custom CWM kernal or something (sorry my definitions in this subject are still noob)
i decided i want to get rid of the yellow triangle + i9100 message every boot, no biggie but i am here to learn and i figure might as well if i can. I read a couple threads here and im not sure if this is my answer but i think it is please advise
my plan is to go back completely as if i never rooted and than root by using a stock rom/kernal so i dont get the error triangle message as well as the incorrect international i9100 display
i think this is my solution
"2b.) How to root by flashing Entropy512's Return/Unbrick to Stock, Kernel + Rooted System Package from the command line using Heimdall (Linux and Mac OS)
* Tested on Linux, should work on Mac OS
* Download and install the latest version of Heimdall Command Line for your operating system from here. (Latest version 1.3.1 at this writing.)
* Download Entropy512's Return/Unbrick to Stock, Kernel + Rooted System Package from here. Extract the PDA.tar file from this package to a directory on your hard disk drive, then extract the two component files from the tar - zImage and factoryfs.img.
* Place zImage and factoryfs.img both in the directory where you have the Heimdall command line executable, and enter the following at the command prompt:
Code:
heimdall flash --kernel zImage --factoryfs factoryfs.img
* Reboot the phone. Success. You're Rooted.
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i am under the impression that if i flash the .tar file that is 200+mb (why so big) that i will be RE ROOTED and COMPLETELY stock, therefore no error message and no international thing popping up
also, no more flash counter increments ? << this one is also important as this is one major reason i want to re root
im not really sure but i think that by flashing this new .tar it will over ride my custom.tar file that i do not want any more, i dont know how to get rid of it so this is the only thing i can think of
im worried because i dont know if i have to UNROOT before i install entropys thing or if it will just over ride
thanks so much to any one who can give me advice
Really the best instructions are in creepncrawly's write up on how to return to stock. It covers any question you could have:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313659
And for doing it right:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
Plus new tools:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367319
The write ups he does are top notch and should be mandatory reading for first time visitors.
The file is so big because it contains the entire android os.
The issues you're having in cwm sound like clockworkmod needs to be reflashed.
The triangle will be removed simply by the stock kernel being replaced. The flash counter as of now can only be reset by a usb jig ~ less than $10.
Though a few have reported returning the phone for warranty issues and they did not check the flash counter.
The only way the flash counter is tripped is by using pc Odin to flash a non stock kernel.
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ok thanks for the help, tomorow im gona read the links you posted thoroughly but i was wondering
if i flash a stock kernal, than how am i rooted
i am not even really sure what "roots" my phone but i thought that it was installing CWM because its a recovery tool which allows more options "superuser"
thanks again! cant wait to waste all day tom reading more about rooting
DroidBehavior said:
ok thanks for the help, tomorow im gona read the links you posted thoroughly but i was wondering
if i flash a stock kernal, than how am i rooted
i am not even really sure what "roots" my phone but i thought that it was installing CWM because its a recovery tool which allows more options "superuser"
thanks again! cant wait to waste all day tom reading more about rooting
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There's a stock plus root package. One of the best ways to root in my opinion.
Root means installing SuperUser.apk, su, and busybox. That's it. The stock + root package has those already included, but also gives you the bone stock kernel.
You install a custom kernel to, among other things, get ClockworkMod Recovery.
DroidBehavior said:
ok thanks for the help, tomorow im gona read the links you posted thoroughly but i was wondering
if i flash a stock kernal, than how am i rooted
i am not even really sure what "roots" my phone but i thought that it was installing CWM because its a recovery tool which allows more options "superuser"
thanks again! cant wait to waste all day tom reading more about rooting
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in reality, 'rooting' your phone is nothing more than placing 2 files on the /system (only one is really needed, since you can download Superuser from the market)
what happens is this:
android version release (say 2.3.5)
extremely smart people find way to exploit a memory hole in the OS, and create a 'rooting' method. what this method does is exploit that hole, which allows for a 'temp root' while it injects the needed files for root
needed files for root:
/system/bin/su <- this is the binary that allows you to retain root access
/system/app/Superuser.apk
without root access, /system is a read-only partition. utilizing the exploit, it will create temp root, then remount the /system partition as read/write, allowing your rooting tool to inject the required files into /system
rooting actually has nothing to do with the device at a true hardware level. it is all within the OS itself. anything outside the OS (recovery, boot, bootloaders, etc) dont get 'rooted' because root is only access to the /system within the OS
samsungs have this awesome ability to be easily rooted via CWM. its extremely easy with ODIN or heimdall to flash recovery/new kernel with recovery built in, and use a cwm zip file to inject the needed files into /system rather than relying on an exploit to do it for you.
its a common misconception that i hate to see when people associate rooting with access to anything outside the OS itself.
'i am having problems flashing this rom/kernel/mod in cwm'
'are you sure you are rooted? try re-rooting'
asinine logic...to say the least
^^
That needs to be stickied in every android forum on xda.
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ok im back, i read a lot of the guides n a lot of pages and i successfully rooted using entropys 2a method return to stock + root
now i have a 2-3 second delay in my home button, and an additional 1 second delay when i turn my phone ion with the power button to show my display
i also added CWM by using the android terminal and that worked
but im regretting all this because of the delay, my error message is gone so thats good but now i have a delay
what could be the problem? i dont remember any one mentioning this issue and if im the only one than i dont know what to do, also i noticed the flash counter is still at 1 so i know i did everything right
DroidBehavior said:
ok im back, i read a lot of the guides n a lot of pages and i successfully rooted using entropys 2a method return to stock + root
now i have a 2-3 second delay in my home button, and an additional 1 second delay when i turn my phone ion with the power button to show my display
i also added CWM by using the android terminal and that worked
but im regretting all this because of the delay, my error message is gone so thats good but now i have a delay
what could be the problem? i dont remember any one mentioning this issue and if im the only one than i dont know what to do, also i noticed the flash counter is still at 1 so i know i did everything right
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Sounds like you still have reading to do. And kudos to you for taking what they said as constructive criticism.
The flash counter can only be reset by a usb jig. Mobile Tech videos make some very good quality ones.
The delay from the home button is due to the vlingo app shortcut being tied to the home button (double tap home button) so it's waiting to see if you hit it twice before it takes you to the home screen. Cusom roms remove the vlingo app from being there which helps cut down on the delay.
But you may notice it more since what you did. And you should. By adding cwm you likely flashed Entropy512's kernel. Which is an awesome kernel. One of the ways that kernel helps battery life is by setting the cpu govener to conservative. It slows the cpu from jumping too high too quick. That explains why you may have not noticed the delay before you did anything. As well as the delay from unlocking the phone.
For me the extra battery life is worth it. If you don't like the delay one of the easier ways to set it back to ondemand (stock) is to use the app SetCpu:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mhuang.overclocking&hl=en
Hope that explains everything.
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yeah that makes perfect sense thanks for the explanation
right now i installed miui and i ****ing love it! the interface is so smooth and sexy its like iphone spliced with android
minimalistic ftw
the interface was so much smoother i ran quadrant but the score was the same heh, but still its impressively smooth
Hi Guys
I am using a UK/Europe T-mobile s2 and rooted to install a ICS rom which didnt work too great so through this forum flashed to a stock 2.3.6 rom. I am still getting the yellow warning triangle on boot and have tried flashing other kernals found on these forums. Cant get anything to work i have heard if you flash to a stock kernal it solves the issue but cant find any with working download links please help!?
You can either use this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193091 or buy a USB Jig on Ebay, it should only cost a few $ or €.
Do note, that after 2.3.4 Samsung disabled the reset of the counter through the Jig, so circumvent this you'll need to install an older bootloader.
Also, a method that might be easier: (credit to Anarchy66)
This is so complicated for entry level users....
If you have rooted and installed a unsecure kernel and you have the yellow triangle just do the following to remove it.
1. Make sure you have clockworkmod installed!
2. Go to market and download the "DarkyOTA"
3. Get the secure kernel the same as the unsecure you flashed with and put it on the root of your sd card.
4. Open "DarkyOTA" and select Flash/Install file from SDCARD then select your secure kernel and it will do the rest and reboot when its done.
Also you can have the kernel in .tar or .zip format both work with "DarkyOTA"
Much easier and a lot less hassle if you still learning ODIN, Rooting, ext
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Thanks you very much for the reply.
I am very new to all this but have managed to root. Anyone know a good ICS rom for S2? i tried one but was very slow and crashed a lot. Also with the kernal thing is there any real advantage to going back to secure? i will try the advise given but just curious?
Many thanks
MDV10 said:
Thanks you very much for the reply.
I am very new to all this but have managed to root. Anyone know a good ICS rom for S2? i tried one but was very slow and crashed a lot.
None as its a buggy leaked beta test rom .
jje
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as far as i know the "insecure" kernels are only used to obtain root, and shouldnt be used as a daily driver
Hello.
I have stock unrooted Galaxy S2 and I want root and put custom ROM (Turkbey ROM probably).
Android 2.3.5
Baseband version
I9100BUKI1
Kernel version
2.6.35.7-I9100BUKJ3-CL647431
[email protected] #2
Bulid number
GINGERBREAD.BUKJ3
So, wich metod I must use for rooting?
CF-Root?
I don't wanna stay on stock ROM, so it will everything works fine if I root with CF Root, make backup and then flash custom ROM? I'm asking because CF Root is a kernel, so I don't know what happens if I change ROM and kernel.
Cheers
Yep that all sounds good. Great to see you've got it all planned out
So yeah, firstly root the phone with the CFRoot kernel that matches your baseband. And then, as you said, do a Nandroid backup in CWRecovery before you flash a custom rom so you will have a copy of your setup as close to stock as possible if something doesn't go right/you don't like the custom rom you flash.
From there, you can flash whatever custom rom you want. The rom you flash will have its own kernel & will overwrite the CFRoot kernel. You can also use kernels other than the one supplied with many roms. There are quite a few kernels in the development sections you can read up on & use. You're not stuck with just using the kernel that is supplied with the rom you flash
I did mine with SuperOneClick.
Took all of 5 minutes and required no effort or input from me which = less chance for human error.
Was quite easy so I recommend that.
Thanks guys for reply!
@MistahBungle you said:
So yeah, firstly root the phone with the CFRoot kernel that matches your baseband.
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In CF Root thread says:
Go to Settings -> About phone -> Kernel Version. Note the string present there:
2.6.35.7-I9100XXKG1-CL349526
What matters most (KG1) in this case, is in bold. Try to find the matching file under downloads:
CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KG1-v4.1-CWM4.zip
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My kernel is KJ3, so I must use KJ3 kernel from this post, right?
I just want to know one more thing.. why people remove yellow triangle (it's shows on startup)? Just because it annoying or it's something else?
Maybe one day I will must go back on stock unrooted software and reset counter.
Will it work USB Jig if I restore nandroid backup with these 2.3.5 Gingerbread, and then unroot?
You can root and unroot with superoneclick with the click of a button. Removing the fear of doing it wrong manually.
I cant post the link but if you google it you will find it easily.
But yes that is the right cfroot you picked out in your last post.
Yep that's exactly right. You can match your kernel. I've also seen people match the baseband as well. Actually, now that I remember, I matched my kernel too and it worked, so yeah definitely use KJ3.
Yes people remove the triangle because it's annoying. Makes no difference to the operation of the phone whatsoever. You can use the method in the CFRoot thread to remove it (fiddly) or use a jig.
Yep if you ever need to send the phone in for warranty purposes, go back to stock & reset the counter with a jig. You might find the jig won't work immediately with 2.3.6 in particular (not sure about 2.3.5), in that case you can flash the old bootloader (available in this thread) & then the jig will work.
I've used the jig successfully with Miui which is 2.3.7 but obviously I have the old bootloader. As above, if the jig doesn't work, flash the old bootloader. Yes, I think the jig will more than likely work if you reflash the Nandroid backup you make of your current setup before you flash a stock rom.
GTRSkyR34 said:
Thanks guys for reply!
@MistahBungle you said:
In CF Root thread says:
My kernel is KJ3, so I must use KJ3 kernel from this post, right?
I just want to know one more thing.. why people remove yellow triangle (it's shows on startup)? Just because it annoying or it's something else?
Maybe one day I will must go back on stock unrooted software and reset counter.
Will it work USB Jig if I restore nandroid backup with these 2.3.5 Gingerbread, and then unroot?
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OK, you are helped me a lot, thank you very much!
I hope someone will help me like you one day when I maybe have to back on original to get my warranty back.
Cheers!
No probs man
Yeah, if you have any dramas if you ever go back to stock, whether you do a restore of your current setup or flash a stock rom via Odin, I'm sure there will be plenty of people around to help. You did your research with the rooting/doing a backup immediately after you root which is really good on your part, so I don't think you'd have any problems going back to stock at all
GTRSkyR34 said:
OK, you are helped me a lot, thank you very much!
I hope someone will help me like you one day when I maybe have to back on original to get my warranty back.
Cheers!
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I'm rooted now!
via CF-Root, everything was fine, except this:
When I put my mobile into download mode, custom binary mode was 4!
So guy who sell me galaxy s2 was on custom ROM, but he didn't reset counter.
It's not big deal now, but I didn't know that and I could be suprised if I was on Samsung service.
Cool. Glad the root went smoothly
Really ? Yeah he's obviously had a go at flashing the phone before he sold it to you. Maybe he flashed a custom rom or two, didn't like it/then & then went back to stock ? No biggie tho, you'll be able to reset the flash counter when you get your jig.
GTRSkyR34 said:
I'm rooted now!
via CF-Root, everything was fine, except this:
When I put my mobile into download mode, custom binary mode was 4!
So guy who sell me galaxy s2 was on custom ROM, but he didn't reset counter.
It's not big deal now, but I didn't know that and I could be suprised if I was on Samsung service.
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I don't know, he nothning told me.. But it's okey now
I put Turkbey ROM, I will play some time on Gingerbread and later ICS.
I order from Ebay USB Jig, it should be for 2-3 weeks in my hands.
Now I will follow xda and help others users if I can, like you do.
Many thanks, you helped a lot.
hey every1 call me hatcher, soo many pages of info didnt know where to start also, most of you will think im an idiot probably asking simple questions! here goes:
bought my sgs2 and love it to death only had it a week and its on orange , i went ahead and rooted my phone using odin 3 and s2 root. i decided to install an original secure kernel again. all seems good, but i didnt know what kernal was is the best? and is it the whole firmware thing? my current android version is 2.3.4 is this the newest and best because i saw something on the web about ics 4 or something. went onto kies and no update was found so maybe that is the latest official, but then i was confused about it saying u have to root again after ics. so yea if anyone could give me a heads up it will be great.
basically i want my phone rooted but running the latest OFFICIAL version with updates available thanks.
did download the newest kernel on this site but phone didnt boot so reverted and thinking there is more to this, dont want to break my phone!! thanks
also another really random question if any1 can answer does powervr plugin meant to take soo long for loading on shadow guardian for example thanks very much, soory for bad punctuation and grammer my english is not perfect yet
just realised that kernel 4.03 i downloaded is 8 mb and another ics 4.03 was 300 mb! really getting confused about os, firmware kernel etc and dont want to miss anything!
hatchermagic said:
hey every1 call me hatcher, soo many pages of info didnt know where to start also, most of you will think im an idiot probably asking simple questions! here goes:
bought my sgs2 and love it to death only had it a week and its on orange , i went ahead and rooted my phone using odin 3 and s2 root. i decided to install an original secure kernel again. all seems good, but i didnt know what kernal was is the best? and is it the whole firmware thing? my current android version is 2.3.4 is this the newest and best because i saw something on the web about ics 4 or something. went onto kies and no update was found so maybe that is the latest official, but then i was confused about it saying u have to root again after ics. so yea if anyone could give me a heads up it will be great.
basically i want my phone rooted but running the latest OFFICIAL version with updates available thanks.
did download the newest kernel on this site but phone didnt boot so reverted and thinking there is more to this, dont want to break my phone!! thanks
also another really random question if any1 can answer does powervr plugin meant to take soo long for loading on shadow guardian for example thanks very much, soory for bad punctuation and grammer my english is not perfect yet
just realised that kernel 4.03 i downloaded is 8 mb and another ics 4.03 was 300 mb! really getting confused about os, firmware kernel etc and dont want to miss anything!
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Your latest firmware should be ICS 4.0.3, (you can flash ICS 4.0.4 official/custom rom!) not gingerbread 2.3.4! You can download (after registering!) your "OFFICIAL" firmware/rom from here: http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&t=1&o=1&m=GT-I9100&r=1#regiona Just choose your region/network/firmware, & then flash with odin 3 again! This will unroot you because you'll be flashing original stock firmware, so you will have to root again with your rooting method of choice! I personally prefer to root using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719 to just keep the latest OFFICIAL stock rom on my device but still have root! Also, using this method wont give you the yellow triangle on each reboot because you're not flashing a kernel to root your device! If you ever need to put your phone in for repair under warranty & your flash counter in download mode doesn't say "No" (0), then they'll possibly charge you for it, as you've flashed your device ! Use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22463153#post22463153 to reset it (ONLY FOR USE ON ICS ROMS!!), but make "SURE" the app gives the "EXACT" same count that it says in download mode, or you could potentially HARD BRICK your expensive toy! The warnings are there to be read, good luck!
thamkyou for your swift and informative reply.
so did kies not update when u have rooted your device?
if so i take it you have to manually flash to the newest firmware everytime a new release comes out?
is this the only thing i need to worry about with updating the firmware no other donloads or auto updates im missing, because like i said i saw a firmware update that was 300mb and i cldnt find anywhere online official kernely/firmware builds, and it seems that a simple flash of 8mb or so updates everything? i saw people talking about connecting via kies to update firmware and it was a big 300 meg file!
thanks for your links also mate.
hatchermagic said:
thamkyou for your swift and informative reply.
so did kies not update when u have rooted your device?
if so i take it you have to manually flash to the newest firmware everytime a new release comes out?
is this the only thing i need to worry about with updating the firmware no other donloads or auto updates im missing, because like i said i saw a firmware update that was 300mb and i cldnt find anywhere online official kernely/firmware builds, and it seems that a simple flash of 8mb or so updates everything? i saw people talking about connecting via kies to update firmware and it was a big 300 meg file!
thanks for your links also mate.
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Whenever you root, kies gives you the "wrong firmware to update" error! No worries though, because YES, you can always flash the latest firmware or custom roms manually! This is usually done through Odin 3 or CWM (clockworkmod recovery!) If done through Odin 3, your flash counter in download mode escalates/goes up, & the only way you can reset it for warranty purposes is using Triangle Away (link in my previous post!) which can be DANGEROUS!! Or if you flash roms through CWM then your counter's not affected also! The majority of people however, prefer to use Mobile Odin on the Galaxy Sll, as flashing with this app also does not give you the boot up triangle warning, or affect your download mode counter! Here's the link to Chainfires lates free version here on XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899 Or if you appreciate the work the devs (for this particular app, Chainfire!) do for us in this forum, you can obtain the "PRO" (paid/donate!) version here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.mobileodin.pro&hl=en
thanks for the reply again crock daddy! mobile odin sounds awesome,
i see i was getting confused because whenever i have ran kies, it has never asked/said anything about updating firmware, guess ive installed an older firmware version than what my phone came with oops lol. i guess im all good to go, cant believe what this handset can do! and yes i will be donating to the clever gits, chainfire is insane, thanks to that i have shadowguardian dead space and backstab working
thanks for your time again peace out.
right flashed to ics, love it, u sir are a legend....
BUT i tried rooting and it said my kernel was secure thus no temp root access. so closed s2 root down. (would this of done any damage or corrupted data btw?)
tried the cwm zip in sd card method, but cldnt find su zip, also read that it doesnt give full root access or sumin. (again would going into clockwork recovery have done any damage because i didnt complete the rooting process-cldnt find su file so just shut it down)
and im guessing there are no insecure kernels for ics yet?
sorry to be so pedantic and worrying about silly things lol.
also have had a couple of jitters and games completley freezing since ics is this common and or should i reinstall games?
this is the kernel version im using for an orange sgs2 19100p
I9100PBVLP6
just doule checking this is the most up to date and stable build.. cheers
hatchermagic said:
right flashed to ics, love it, u sir are a legend....
BUT i tried rooting and it said my kernel was secure thus no temp root access. so closed s2 root down. (would this of done any damage or corrupted data btw?)
tried the cwm zip in sd card method, but cldnt find su zip, also read that it doesnt give full root access or sumin. (again would going into clockwork recovery have done any damage because i didnt complete the rooting process-cldnt find su file so just shut it down)
and im guessing there are no insecure kernels for ics yet?
sorry to be so pedantic and worrying about silly things lol.
also have had a couple of jitters and games completley freezing since ics is this common and or should i reinstall games?
this is the kernel version im using for an orange sgs2 19100p
I9100PBVLP6
just doule checking this is the most up to date and stable build.. cheers
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When you root using the cwm & superuser.zip you won't see the su.zip in recovery mode! You have to put an sd-card in your device (external sd-card!) & put su.zip on that rather than your internal sd-card! that way recovery sees it! & YES you do gain full root! (read the whole thread! : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719)
If Superuser shows up in your app's, then that's the indication you need to tell you that you have root!
Either this method, CF root method or any other method will allow you to install custom ROMS, but there is an advantage and a disadvantage for both.
:;This method: Doesn't affect custom rom counter or triangle, but CWM recovery is not permanent. (but once you flash a custom ROM that has a different kernel with CWM recovery included then your rom counter will still be unaffected and whatever CWM recovery is included in the custom ROM will become your new permanent recovery)
You can still use CWM recovery to flash stuff with this method, by using clockworkmod (Rom manager!) & booting straight into CWM recovery & doing everything you need to do from there!
This method keeps the stock recovery, so that if you have to send your phone in for a repair, the repairer doesen't see that you have a custom recovery (CWM recovery!) which tells them you have rooted your device & void your warrenty!
:-CF-Root Method: Flashing the CF-root kernel (or ANY insecure kernel!) with Odin will increase your custom ROM counter, which can be cleared with TriangleAway.apk (only on ICS). But Chainfire has warned that it is dangerous and can permanently brick the device (i've used it on XWLP7 ICS 4.0.3 and it works perfect.)
I've used both methods, but I found this method easier and generally safer.
As for some of your games freezing on ICS, try going to settings/developer options & try checking "Force GPU rendering" to see if that makes a difference!
The latest official Samsung firmware for Orange here in the UK is: I9100PBVLP6 (ICS 4.0.3!) so you do have the correct one, but I don't think there's an insecure ICS kernel available for that version as of yet!