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Hello guys.
I just see it on a french Archos Forum, there's a new Firmware released for Gen8 Devices.
Download it from Archos Website
What's new :
Version 2.0.71 - December 16th, 2010
* Wi-Fi: fix Wi-Fi stuck after a while when using WPA2/AES encryption mode
* Wi-Fi: fix cannot connect on channels above 11 due to wrong default regulation domain
* Power management: for A43/A70/A101 add a setting in about device to allow 3 levels of power management. Overdrive that allows CPU max frequency to be 1GHz with ondemand governor, optimal that brings CPU max frequency to 800MHz with ondemand governor and powersave that set CPU max frequency to 800MHz with conservative governor
* Indexing: faster rescan is now achieved at USB disconnect
* Storage: SDCard now supports NTFS (read only) and EXT3
* Storage: fix sdcard not recognized sometimes when swapping different cards brands
* Video: fix subtitles on A101
* Network shares: enhance scanning speed
* Network shares: handle the case where a server shares are not visible if not authenticated
* Network shares: allow in wireless settings to define manually a server authentication details
* Network shares: reload samba and UPnP services when switching between access points without disconnecting
* Audio: a silent mode (Global Mute) has been enabled in the power button menu. It will impact all streams except alarms in case one select alarms sound always on in alarm settings
* Application: appslib is now reinstalled after an Android device reset
* Application: fix quadrant CPU benchmark
* Power: fix shutdown sometimes happening on short power button press
* Internationalization: support for Korean codepage tags and subtitles
* Multimedia: use smaller memory footprint for decoding H264 SD
* Memory management: achieve more progressive kill in low memory situation
* Boot: fix deadlock happening sometimes preventing device to complete boot
As I see on some forums, there's a good feedback about this update
Have a good flash
Nice. Faster rescan, memory management, wifi fixes, power fix, 1000MHz back, and other fixes. That'll fix quite a lot of issues.
I have to raise my eyebrow on the 'fix quadrant CPU benchmark' though... That sounds like optimizing for a benchmark app, which ruin the entire purpose of benchmarking... @[email protected]
edit: Oh hey, it's posted already at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875393
Oh sorry for the double post...
Archie defanitly got the update right. The course and memory settings make it much better.
Makes a bunch of apps in the market disappear again. I'm pulling my hair out.
I did a complete format and installed the market and everything is working fine. Same number of apps as before the update. Try a full reformat by shutting down and booting up by pressing volume down and power.
Edit: love the new update. Feels much faster. Good job archos.
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I did a complete format and installed the market and everything is working fine. Same number of apps as before the update. Try a full reformat by shutting down and booting up by pressing volume down and power.
Edit: love the new update. Feels much faster. Good job archos.
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Just flashed it and no apps have been gone missing. I'm not able to use the market enabler anymore, though, since temp root isn't possible anymore. Without it I'm stuck with the german market and there are several interesting apps not showing up, for whatever reason.
Bei mir geht der Market.
Market working here
It's better with this update, but it's still not enough by a long shot. This Archos desperately needs a lagfix solution like on the Samsung Galaxy, this way its no contender for the iPad.
the gen8 archos doesn't have etf or do i miss something?
so a lag fix (at least like that on sgs wouldn't help or do i miss smth) i am very happy with the performance it's not as fast as the sgs newest software + lagfix but it's quite fast but i haven't installed a lot of software perhaps it will get worser
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pwhooftman said:
It's better with this update, but it's still not enough by a long shot. This Archos desperately needs a lagfix solution like on the Samsung Galaxy, this way its no contender for the iPad.
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It would never be a contender. I have never understood comparing everything to Apple. They make good items for there system. This is Android and not the same system. Let this stand on it own merits. Just a thought these days.
Now lets compare it to the SGT. That is a over priced tablet but has Market access and root access. I hope we can get to the point with this software.
So on that note I have not changed to the new software since we lose all root. So i have not seen the grand changes that people are happy about.
Faldiin
When they're of similar function, there's no reason not to compare them. That's the only way we can decide what to buy in the list of available tablets.
That said, I'm not fond of apple products. They're 'locked down tight' (ignoring jailbreaking) and highly priced.
And same I've not switched to the new software since I do not want to lose root. It works well enough as it is as long as I have root.
MoonPhantasm said:
When they're of similar function, there's no reason not to compare them. That's the only way we can decide what to buy in the list of available tablets.
That said, I'm not fond of apple products. They're 'locked down tight' (ignoring jailbreaking) and highly priced.
And same I've not switched to the new software since I do not want to lose root. It works well enough as it is as long as I have root.
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As I see the point to your thought, I may not agree since there is to much going on about IPad killer and IPhone Killer. This is why I find this part getting annoying. So there is plenty of merit to what you say. As far as the apple I completely agree. I was trying to talk my sister out of an IPad. Worst of it she has a droid Incredible and she is still opting for the IPad. Some people are just paying for the software and have no idea.
Faldiin
WIFI error & USB FLASHDISK cannot detected after update firmware
Hi There,
a day before firmware update launch, I've problem when replace 4GB MicroSD to 16GB MicroSD.
The 16GB MicroSD cannot detected by archos 101.
after update firmware,.. another issue appears..
1. WIFI often get Wifi Error
2. Cannot detect any USB FlashDisk.
How to downgrade back to previous firmware?
thank you
saftari said:
How to downgrade back to previous firmware?
thank you
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At this time you cant go back. You will have to wait for Root Access or and update from Archos. Please let them know your issue so they can fix it.
Have you installed the new Market App? There is an issue with WIFI.
Faldiin
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/30/hp-touchpad-will-receive-ota-udpate-for-added-functionality/
HP may have abandoned the TouchPad, but that apparently won't stop the company from issuing a post-mortem OTA update for its webOS tablet. Yesterday, an HP spokesperson confirmed to CNET that "HP TouchPad owners can look forward to an over-the-air update that will enhance the platform and add functionality and a growing applications catalog." The rep didn't offer any specifics, but reaffirmed that HP remains "fully committed to the ongoing support and service of customers who purchased webOS devices." The news comes on the heels of a Quickoffice HD update that dropped yesterday, and at a time when TouchPads are selling like hotcakes -- which probably explains HP's decision to issue a tweak. Indeed, the company went on to say that it's seen "huge spikes in activations and between 3-5X downloads of apps," since the TouchPad fire sale first launched.
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[Q] New Touchpad OTA update safe?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20099049-64/hp-update-to-boost-touchpad-functionality/
Doesn't say exactly when this update will be available. Is it safe to assume that we shouldn't accept the update, if given the option, if we're planning on eventually flashing Android port?
Good question.
I was also wondering if the folks who actually wanted to stay with web os, will the homebrew patches and kernel have to be re-written to work on the updated firmware?
Given that it just says "a future update" with not even a vague indication of *when* that might be, I don't think it's something that we should fret over for now
PiZauL said:
Good question.
I was also wondering if the folks who actually wanted to stay with web os, will the homebrew patches and kernel have to be re-written to work on the updated firmware?
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it depends how drastic the changes are.. i have a feeling the update won't be anything major...
This isn't iOS. The updates don't ever do anything in theory to close down the OS, other than required security hole fixes. Anything you could do prior to the update, you can do after. The webOS doctor is what is probably going to become hijacked for allowing Android installations, and this in theory, will never stop working. Remember, we have always been able to recover a "bricked" device through the webOS Doctor; unlike the many other platforms available. Also, it has been close to 2 years since we had to remove all patches prior to updating. I'd suggest waiting 24 hours, if you can, to verify. Patches and homebrew should not be broken in the update.
One thing they should fix is the browser. Upgrade their libraries up to the level Honeycomb 3.2 or iOS 5 (all of which is open source) to improve the performance (especially JavaScript) and support more HTML5 standards (like SVG). They should also allow users to modify their user agent string to the iPad UA via a hack, so all tablet-oriented websites display as they are meant to.
Although the Touchpad browser is not horrible, it could do a lot better compared to the Android and iOS browsers which are based on WebKit as well. Having an awesome browser could give this tablet much more life while just running webOS with web apps!
DCKing said:
One thing they should fix is the browser. Upgrade their libraries up to the level Honeycomb 3.2 or iOS 5 (all of which is open source) to improve the performance (especially JavaScript) and support more HTML5 standards (like SVG). They should also allow users to modify their user agent string to the iPad UA via a hack, so all tablet-oriented websites display as they are meant to.
Although the Touchpad browser is not horrible, it could do a lot better compared to the Android and iOS browsers which are based on WebKit as well. Having an awesome browser could give this tablet much more life while just running webOS with web apps!
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I feel this brower is just as good if not better than the android browser. I had issues with some links and pages on my android tablet but they work perfect on my touchpad
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i imagine the update will bring things like a native ebook reader or an updated marketplace, nothing radical like a fully skinned version of honeycomb
I too hope for some improvements to the browser, there are a few issues with it, nothing tragic but irritating enough at times.
OTA Update = Android Honeycomb?
Maybe????
It could happen.
(I'm such a troll today)
maybe we will get more than a ota, maybe actual support for webos.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/30/hp-may-resurrect-touchpad-head-of-pc-business-says/
Basic first.
Sound loss and Wifi problems.
Now if we want to go Fancy.
Rotation while playing phone apps is always portrait.
Youtube full screen is up side down (if using a case)
speed up calendar.
speed up photo "fine" loading.
browser minor issues.
Cursor issues.
Do not accept. If they are designing the Android for 3.0.2 then leave it. It's only a matter of a Week before an Alpha is available from Cyanogen.
Android, that way they can collect the $1600. Hell, they have to make back the stock money they lost somehow
I'm thinking the OTA will just be Homebrew/Preware kind of stuff and maybe some new apps.
However, a tabbed browser and a VNC client that works would make me really happy.
Don't Know why people knock the browser. I feel that the WebOS browser is honestly the best mobile browser I have EVER used functionality wise... Never before on a tablet or tablet-like device have I not had to fiddle with user-agent settings and such to get where I need to go... So far only one site has failed on the Touchpad... Hulu, And we all know why that doesn't work...
Other Note: I would laugh if the OTA was just to pre-install preware and homebrew ability... (although it would be a BIG smack in the face of apple, Who leaves their old products to rot instead of supporting them like HP has so far.)
Then again, I find WebOS in general to be the best Mobile OS ever made, And also the best Mobile OS killed before its time...
c01e said:
Don't Know why people knock the browser. I feel that the WebOS browser is honestly the best mobile browser I have EVER used functionality wise... Never before on a tablet or tablet-like device have I not had to fiddle with user-agent settings and such to get where I need to go... So far only one site has failed on the Touchpad... Hulu, And we all know why that doesn't work...
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The caching issues make browsing forums a nightmare.
Also, Gmail doesn't work in the browser.
c01e said:
Don't Know why people knock the browser. I feel that the WebOS browser is honestly the best mobile browser I have EVER used functionality wise... Never before on a tablet or tablet-like device have I not had to fiddle with user-agent settings and such to get where I need to go... So far only one site has failed on the Touchpad... Hulu, And we all know why that doesn't work...
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I have to agree that functionally, it's an excellent browser. It's just that internally (performance en compatibility with technologies) it's not quite as great as Safari in iOS 4 or the Honeycomb browser. Check this link to see what I mean.
The reason why it's important is that by the end of the year all webOS support for native apps will have definitely dried up, which means that webOS users will have to rely on web apps. Web apps can be freaking amazing if the browser supports the latest technology and has good JavaScript performance. Although the Touchpad is not bad there, it should be doable for HP to update its performance and compatibility to the level of iOS 5.
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The caching issues make browsing forums a nightmare.
Also, Gmail doesn't work in the browser.
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+ 1 trying to browse forums can be terrible. Constantly have to use the refresh button.
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I want to make a (more recent) comparison of web browsers available to us on the ASUS TF101 and TF201 tablets, something that is useful. In my experience we don't have all that many threads that are Really Good on this subject, that don't get bogged down with noise and opinion drowning out the signal after a while.
The browsers, web sites, and procedures I will use for testing are being collected HERE as they are written.
I am open to suggestions of things to test as long as they don't cost me $$$, are legit, and hopefully widely used by communities of people in general. If it has issues with the stock browser in HC/ICS/GB/Froyo in fast/simple usage, like crashy crashy! Then I am more likely to test a suggestion.
Note for mods: this is cross posted in the forum for both tablets.
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On my free time, I downloaded:
- Opera Mobile
- Maxthon
- Dolphin
- Firefox
- Firefox Aurora
I used the PeaceKeeper browser benchmark by FutureMark and tested each one.
The top scoring ones were all very similar: Maxthon, Dolphin, and Stock.
The middle ground browser was Opera.
The really low scores were Firefox and Firefox Aurora.
Maxthon, Dolphin, support more codecs and look pretty Chrome-like.
Is miren browser working for the prime?
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Nevermind I see it.
Interesting thread..liking forward to the results. Pretty extensive list you have of browsers. I have 5 of them out the list. MAXTHALON, OPERA MOBILE, ICS+, BOAT BROWSER, DOLPHin HD, and stock. The best performing for me are opera mobile, stock, n boat browser. SOMETHING happened after ICS update that drastically improved stock browser performance. It use to be my worst performer. BOAT browser is great also n runs flash very well. Just have to get used to its setup. OPERA mobile of course is always fast n only drawback is flash not working right on Prime version of Opera Mobile.
I've settled on Boat Browser. I've not experienced the lockups or pages not loading that all the other browsers that I've tried. It does take a while to get used to the format but if means no lockups I'll keep using it.
OK, I just ran almost all of the ones you listed through the peacekeeper browser test. The results are below. Each browser was only run 1 time and if its not listed it means the browser was not capable of giving me a score
Xscope - 378
Stock Browser - 361
Maxthon - 343
Boat - 369
ICS browser+ - 369
Opera Mobile - 274
Ninesky - 361
Angel - 375
Sleipner - 376
Dolphin Pad - 376
Firefox - 273
These are not in any particular order and I also only tested one opera and one dolphin, not all of them. Hope this gets the thread started.
Was also going to bench all with browsermark but the stock browser wouldn't get through it without crashing.
Higher score is better?
I've been using BOAT since I heard about it here.
Also, does everyone set their agent preference to desktop?
yes higher is better. Give xscope a try and you will see. I like setting my agent to iPad for some reason things just look good and flash still works unlike on iPad
Maybe we can merge these two together, and keep one good resourceful browser thread. Also, does this forum support multiple people being able to edit a post?
Not that I know of but I've been using the gdocs document for test procedures and a spreadsheet on gdocs for results, and those do support that. I planned ahead, else it'd all be a plain text file I could feed into perl lol.
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OPERA MOBILE just had a huge update today, finally. Supposedly fixes flash in Hc and ICS and compatibility issues with ICS. Going to test it out.
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Checked it out, seems they completely removed flash from opera mobile. Now there is no option for flash. Go to websites n it'll tell you flash or Java not installed or something similar.
Took another look at changelog and it says its known Flash has issues on latest version of ICS 4.0.3. Seems like we took a step backwards on opera now..lmao. hopefully next update will add 4.0.3 support SMH
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yes higher is better. Give xscope a try and you will see. I like setting my agent to iPad for some reason things just look good and flash still works unlike on iPad
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I never do this, because im sick of companies thinking ipad is the only tablet. I set mine to Android, and happily deal with anything that comes with doing that.
I grabbed X-Scope Pro free on Amazon a few months ago waiting for the chance to use on a tablet and so far I love it. I have been having issues with the stock browser closing randomly while surfing and that hasn't happened once in X-Scope. So far, so good.
They removed the plugins setting from OM as well. Maybe b/c it's really just flash in practice, and adobe isn't making a plugin for Android 9 someday. Or maybe it only applies to Android 4.0.3 devices --- looking at the what's new.
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A good site to test, and I didn't see on your chart, is www.espn3.com. That is their streaming video site and plays live and recorded sporting events. It is super heavy on Flash Video.
I watch it all the time, but it will not load and play in Opera (which we all know has problems with Flash).
I got an alert that Firefox has released a big update. I havent tested the old FF, but i might give it a shot, i liked the screeny they showed in the news article!
By the way guys, it would probably help to distinguish between browsers that are essentially just overlays on the stock browser, using the same HTML rendering engine, versus browsers that use their own HTML renderer.
Browsers like Dolphin, Boat Browser, and ICS Browser have roughly the same performance as the stock browser because they are all using a variation of the Webkit rendering enginer, whereas Opera and Firefox are using their own.
My spreadsheet always notes the rendering engine as possible, and assumes stock when no detail otherwise is found.
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So I got bored today and decided to review browsers by benchmarking them and giving a general description of each with their pros and cons... So here goes.
FYI:
- Browsermark is a somewhat popular benchmarking service I found.
- My setup I am using: Ineffabilis Deus unlocked/s-off nothing else
- I am using my home wifi. To eliminate any possible 3g/4g issues
- I tested each browser 3 times and chose the middle score of the 3.
- I had previously unistalled the stock browser so no HTC contestant here.
1. Boat Browser
Score: 69580
Review: Very clean browser using relatively little space. Quick at loading most everything. Has flash. The only con I've really noticed is that the search bar can be counter intuitive some times. Basic features with themeing capability.
2. Boat Browser Mini
Score: 72946
Review: Half the size of boat browser with less interface customization. Still includes minor theme support and is suprisingly quick. Flash supported.
3. Chrome (stable)
Score: 84518
Review: Now stable release. Suprised its the highest? Me neither. Best when it comes to its ability to extend your desktop's chrome with its bookmarks and tab syncing. Does not support flash and has a somewhat buttonless interface. Lack of customization currently. And boy does this thing suck up memory. 55mb for me.
4. Dolphin HD
Score: 78076
Review: A solid second place but this comes with some bulk. The gesture system built in is nice but it can be a hassle. Now it has included a S-Voice knock off. Basically this is what firefox is but on you phone... and good.
5. Dolphin Mini
Score: 64019
Review: Probably the best interface in the bunch. Still has gesture for those who like it. Ugly green themeing. Unfotunately has lost favor from dev and has only seen 2 updates over the last year. Has some redraw issues occasionaly.
6. Opera Mobile
Score: 23012
Review: Really? That bad? Some people swear by it and I think it is nice but wow. Has good dev support and has a clean interface similar to boat. Doesn't seem to like some websites that are graphic intensive.
7. Firefox ("NEW")
Score: 40651
Review: WAAAYYY better interface. runs a little smoother. Benchmark dropped a ton from 54k to 41k... they are getting closer and farther away at the same time.
Additional:
Opera Mini and Opera Mini Next both failed the rendering tests. Most likely due to data compression systems that have been built in to the browsers.
Ninesky failed the specifically the 4th rendering test. Not sure why.
Maxthon failed the DOM test on browsermark. I have no clue why.
nice, thanks. I mainly use stock browser but I have chrome beta installed.
If anyone is willing to take a couple of minutes to run the HTC stock browser through this test and to anyone using the Stock ICS browser like on slimrom.
shoot me the results and I'll post them. Remember use wifi.
updated to reflect new firefox and stable chrome.
After looking at the Index thread, it seems as if Lollipop 5.1 is the latest version of Android that is safe for an HP Touchpad. Am I understanding this correctly?
Also, if I install that one, does it wipe out WebOS? I guess it doesn't matter if so because from what I'm reading, it's completely outdated and no longer supported. Also, I'm locked out and cannot remember the passcode anyway.
No version of Android is supported on the TouchPad, therefore there isn't a 'safe' version. You'd have most success updating to current (7.1.2+) firmwares. As a TouchPad modder, these versions are the fastest and most supported by Play Store. The initial process of installing 'moboot' for the first time can be daunting, so look into using which ever version of Android is used in jcullins' Toolbox tutorial. Once moboot and TWRP are installed, you can pretty much try whichever rom you want, as this device is near impossible to brick.
Good luck!
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No version of Android is supported on the TouchPad, therefore there isn't a 'safe' version. You'd have most success updating to current (7.1.2+) firmwares. As a TouchPad modder, these versions are the fastest and most supported by Play Store. The initial process of installing 'moboot' for the first time can be daunting, so look into using which ever version of Android is used in jcullins' Toolbox tutorial. Once moboot and TWRP are installed, you can pretty much try whichever rom you want, as this device is near impossible to brick.
Good luck!
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Can you please link me to a/the tutorial for the version you suggested?
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Can you please link me to a/the tutorial for the version you suggested?
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Try the below link which points to the updated guide on how to install Android on the HP Touchpad.
If you are a newbie on this stuff, you would be a good test on how well this guide is written and if it needs any tweaks to help people follow it with accuracy.
I mean I tested it myself, but I am a "seasoned veteran" LOL, I installed KitKat from this guide and also Nougat the version that was recommend to you. Its all there.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp...-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
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Try the below link which points to the updated guide on how to install Android on the HP Touchpad.
If you are a newbie on this stuff, you would be a good test on how well this guide is written and if it needs any tweaks to help people follow it with accuracy.
I mean I tested it myself, but I am a "seasoned veteran" LOL, I installed KitKat from this guide and also Nougat the version that was recommend to you. Its all there.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp...-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
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1) So I got it to install (Evervolv Nougat) and my feedback on the tutorial is that it's a bit of information overload. Not sure how easy it would be to simply it though.
2) I could not find a link for Boost (what is that?) or the Keyboard fix. Can you assist (assuming they can be installed retroactively)? The keyboard, for instance, works in Chrome but does not appear on the home screen when tapping the Google Search Bar.
3) And maybe this should be #1...but this Nougat seems to slow things down considerably. I tried installing the game Run Race 3D for instance and it was unplayable. Would an older Android version speed things up or am I just dealing with old hardware that can't keep up?
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1) So I got it to install (Evervolv Nougat) and my feedback on the tutorial is that it's a bit of information overload. Not sure how easy it would be to simply it though.
2) I could not find a link for Boost (what is that?) or the Keyboard fix. Can you assist (assuming they can be installed retroactively)? The keyboard, for instance, works in Chrome but does not appear on the home screen when tapping the Google Search Bar.
3) And maybe this should be #1...but this Nougat seems to slow things down considerably. I tried installing the game Run Race 3D for instance and it was unplayable. Would an older Android version speed things up or am I just dealing with old hardware that can't keep up?
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Hello AshleyQ,
Well along with the step by step, I added a bit of instruction. For example you said, "I could not find a link for Boost (what is that?) or the Keyboard fix." So I will add a little more "overload" of instruction for what Boost Optimized settings are, in my OP at a later date.
But as per your performance. The reason its slow is because you did not load the following ZIP's in the exact sequence the instructions say. I realize its because you could not find the links for boost and keyboard. If you go to HP_TOUCHPAD's "Master List of ZIPs" in the OP of the guide, or I put it below for convenience, you will see the green list below for Nougat 7.1.2, and find the links you were missing earlier.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-optimize-android-swap-t3901773
and once you click link, hit "page down" 3 times and it will get you to the "Master List of Zips"
Evervolv 7.1.2 Android Nougat
1.Click Here to Download the ROM
2.Click Here to Download the Boost Optimized settings with preset CPU Frequency
3.Click here to download Google Open Apps
Select Platform ARM, Android 7.1 and the Variant you want, Pico is recommended
4.Click Here to Download the Keyboard Fix
As per the Boost Settings always start with 1728, and after that is working good, you can try to flash a higher frequency for speed, and you don't have to re-flash everything just the Boost Zip ( like 1782, or 1836 ) file from TWRP recovery. If it freezes screen just go back and flash lower frequency.
So click each link in the OP, and download the said 4 ZIP files, and follow the Original Post again, with these 4 ZIP's ready to go!!! Do not do this retroactively, but start again from scratch.
And you will be able to play the "Run Race 3D" game!!
Look at this link below, a non-gamer like user HP_TOUCHPAD from Florida, played the game Hearthstone!!! I believe you will be able to play "Run Race 3D", but we would love to hear how your results go, and we will be here to help you get a smooth running touchpad that is 100% Android, with SWAP!!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/how-to-play-hearthstone-blizzard-t3924170
@HP_TOUCHPAD
Using these downloads from your Master List of Zips, and running my install method.
AshleyQ the OP'er wants to play Run Race 3D game. Now I am not a gamer at all, but you tried with Hearthstone so I will try now, when I download Run Race 3D game I get the attached errors. But I can run YouTube fine, everything seems fine until I run that game ( Run Race 3D ). What are these errors telling you? I waited till SWAP was over 400 Mb, and I used various boost files, first 1782, 1836 and 1728, but with no luck.
I should point out that I had about 10 minutes where I was running the game with smoothness and doing the jumps and winning the races, but then HP Touchpad started to get sluggish with little mini freezes and it threw my timing of the jumps off and I started to lose, then the error came.
Evervolv 7.1.2 Android Nougat
1.Click Here to Download the ROM
2.Click Here to Download the Boost Optimized settings with preset CPU Frequency
3.Click here to download Google Open Apps
Select Platform ARM, Android 7.1 and the Variant you want, Pico is recommended
4.Click Here to Download the Keyboard Fix
p.s. the 2nd pic is kind of hard to read, I just wanted to show that I ran "running services" and it shows 558 MB of SWAP.
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Using these downloads from your Master List of Zips, and running my install method.
AshleyQ the OP'er wants to play Run Race 3D game. Now I am not a gamer at all, but you tried with Hearthstone so I will try now, when I download Run Race 3D game I get the attached errors. But I can run YouTube fine, everything seems fine until I run that game ( Run Race 3D ). What are these errors telling you? I waited till SWAP was over 400 Mb, and I used various boost files, first 1782, 1836 and 1728, but with no luck.
In the Developers options --.>> Running Services shows Device Memory been use but does not show the swap.
The FREE in gray color shows the available free RAM, but is not the size of the swap file, for example the system can report 485 MB Free RAM and only use 60 MB of swap.
The best way to see how much swap is been use is by connecting the Tablet to PC using usb, open a terminal window and using adb shell then type
free -h
I should point out that I had about 10 minutes where I was running the game with smoothness and doing the jumps and winning the races, but then HP Touchpad started to get sluggish with little mini freezes and it threw my timing of the jumps off and I started to lose, then the error came.
Keep in mind that the free version of this game have Ads, that is a service that is running in the background and when is time to display the ads is another process getting activated. Android is constantly launching background process it does not seem to care if the device is been use, it will take priority.
Evervolv 7.1.2 Android Nougat
1.Click Here to Download the ROM
2.Click Here to Download the Boost Optimized settings with preset CPU Frequency
3.Click here to download Google Open Apps
Select Platform ARM, Android 7.1 and the Variant you want, Pico is recommended
4.Click Here to Download the Keyboard Fix
p.s. the 2nd pic is kind of hard to read, I just wanted to show that I ran "running services" and it shows 558 MB of SWAP.
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The reason that I mentioned to wait until it shows 400 MB of free RAM (is not swap) is that Android finishes launching all process and the system is finally "IDLE", it takes that long for Android to finally settle and the Tablet ready to be use..
I just installed the Game, it only took about 73 MB of swap space, but I am testing on DU 9 using completely different settings. I am not a gamer, but it looks very simple, graphics are minimal, it does shows a lot of ads and even launching the Play store to install more games. The issues that I am having is that there is no minimal specification for any App, it only shows the Android version and it will depend on the Device. It will help if an App shows the minimal RAM requirement to run, then the settings can be apply to provide that amount, but is all about guessing. I am not done testing my next settings, I will use this game as a tester.
I applied some settings and tried the game and I won! is very easy to play on the Tablet with a bigger screen but it could be a real challenge on smartphone.
Attached is the screenshot of my victory.
Is work in progress, but the game should play with no issues once I finish the settings.
So what do you guys recommend that I do? I just used Run Race 3d as an example of the sluggishness and really just want an Android version and setup that will give me the best overall (meaning fastest) performance...with games/browsing/etc.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
I applied some settings and tried the game and I won! is very easy to play on the Tablet with a bigger screen but it could be a real challenge on smartphone.
Attached is the screenshot of my victory.
Is work in progress, but the game should play with no issues once I finish the settings.
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Congratulations on the RR3D win! I won a few times myself and the man did a little dance on the screen, but then my HPTP got sluggish and I kept crashing into the walls because when I pressed the screen the man would not jump like I told it too. In fact my setup got to the point I could not even take a screenshot it was too sluggish.
But if @ashleyquicik is reading this, please be patient it seems like HP_TOUCHPAD is working on some Universal performance settings that will work for all ROMs, past present and future. In the meantime you could load JC Sullins KitKat 4.4 ROM you will find that link in the 2nd Master List of zips ( RolandD's ) on below install method. I find for YouTube and Podcast apps this current version of Nougat is fine, but once I start playing "Run Race 3D" it gets sluggish. Be sure to follow directions in flashing the ZIP's in order.
HP_TOUCHPAD is now using the Run Race 3D game as a testing app, so you can be sure sooner or later this game will be working, not to win at the game, but to win and beat the sluggishness!!
This is the classic case of MAN vs. MACHINE!!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp...-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
DoubleStuff said:
Congratulations on the RR3D win! I won a few times myself and the man did a little dance on the screen, but then my HPTP got sluggish and I kept crashing into the walls because when I pressed the screen the man would not jump like I told it too. In fact my setup got to the point I could not even take a screenshot it was too sluggish.
After the first stage of the game was over and I selected to play again, then what seems to be an Advertisement came up, but it was only a black screen, then the image show trying to trick me on touching to install another game, there was no way of getting out of it, then the Play store got launch by itself and then I had to close both. There is a difference when you the user open many apps and place them on the background and when two apps are running at same time, is too much to ask for a 1GB RAM device.
But if @ashleyquicik is reading this, please be patient it seems like HP_TOUCHPAD is working on some Universal performance settings that will work for all ROMs, past present and future. In the meantime you could load JC Sullins KitKat 4.4 ROM you will find that link in the 2nd Master List of zips ( RolandD's ) on below install method. I find for YouTube and Podcast apps this current version of Nougat is fine, but once I start playing "Run Race 3D" it gets sluggish. Be sure to follow directions in flashing the ZIP's in order.
I will provide the settings but I do not want to send the wrong signal as it will allow for any apps, specially games to play. Android's apps are extremely buggy even on the stock devices, just search for an issue and you will find how many users are experiencing the problem and none are related to the HP TP, just regular devices.
HP_TOUCHPAD is now using the Run Race 3D game as a testing app, so you can be sure sooner or later this game will be working, not to win at the game, but to win and beat the sluggishness!!
As you have tested yourself the game will play, you won. It is a very basic game with low graphics., but it provides HUGE Ads and also any other apps that you have installed on the Tablet will impact performance. The sluggishness comes as background services that becomes active, that is why as soon as you connect the Tablet to WiFi, it will slow down, just check Running Services and you see them all, opening and closing plus the google apps updates, it will happen even if the CPU is at full capacity and low ram available, is the way Android works.
This is the classic case of MAN vs. MACHINE!!!
I will call it MAN vs Google!
Here is the explanation for that, I will try to keep it short.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp...-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861
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Android Apps are written in Java, Google does not want to pay license feeds as is offering the OS for free and making revenue on the data it collect from the devices for Ads placement, each device is a Digital Billboard that Google charge for displaying time to companies promoting their services or products.
If you have experience running a Virtual Machine on the Desktop, then it should be easy to understand the concept. Android apps are running inside an open source virtual machine " Dalvik" to run the java code and be display on the screen. To virtualize an OS on the desktop if the PC has 6 GB of RAM, and the guess OS requires a minimum of 4 GB to run, then it must be configure and there will only be 2GB left on the Host OS. Then the speed will degrade for low RAM resources and the HOST can not be use for nothing else. Once the Guess OS has done its job, it can be close down and the Host OS will function normally. But if the correct amount of RAM is not allocated to the Guess it will not boot, or shutdown. That is the same that happen in HP TP with Android, and those settings are apply manually in the build.prop by the manufacture. Everything in Android must be configure manually as the OS is too basic and primitive all settings are device specific according to screen resolution, size and amount of RAM ( Memory ).
Hopefully I explained it or compare it, easy to understand.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
Android Apps are written in Java, Google does not want to pay license feeds as is offering the OS for free and making revenue on the data it collect from the devices for Ads placement, each device is a Digital Billboard that Google charge for displaying time to companies promoting their services or products.
If you have experience running a Virtual Machine on the Desktop, then it should be easy to understand the concept. Android apps are running inside an open source virtual machine " Dalvik" to run the java code and be display on the screen. To virtualize an OS on the desktop if the PC has 6 GB of RAM, and the guess OS requires a minimum of 4 GB to run, then it must be configure and there will only be 2GB left on the Host OS. Then the speed will degrade for low RAM resources and the HOST can not be use for nothing else. Once the Guess OS has done its job, it can be close down and the Host OS will function normally. But if the correct amount of RAM is not allocated to the Guess it will not boot, or shutdown. That is the same that happen in HP TP with Android, and those settings are apply manually in the build.prop by the manufacture. Everything in Android must be configure manually as the OS is too basic and primitive all settings are device specific according to screen resolution, size and amount of RAM ( Memory ).
Hopefully I explained it or compare it, easy to understand.
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So having said that...and to sort of reiterate some of what I wrote in my last post, what is arguably the best ROM/procedure to have the best overall performance?
ashleyquicik said:
So having said that...and to sort of reiterate some of what I wrote in my last post, what is arguably the best ROM/procedure to have the best overall performance?
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It all depends of the intended use from the user.
Does it needs to have a working:
Bluetooth ?
Reliable WiFi ?
Camera ?
Android compatibility with a special App ?
Android Versions are different and that sets the ROM apart, it will not be comparing Apples to Apples from different versions.
If you check my guide I have optimized 7.1.2, 8.1 and 9 to use swap and all those three versions works very similar.
One of the reason that I will be doing an Universal Setting and retro-fit older ROM, is to show that the Tablet will work similar with different ROMs.
I should probably make a version that is completely optimized only for games, that will required to delete unnecessary Android system process and RAM could be about 600 MB Free.
Does it needs to have a working:
Bluetooth ? Yes
Reliable WiFi ? YES
Camera ? Yes
Games really aren't necessary because I'm giving this tablet to someone that won't be gaming.
ashleyquicik said:
Does it needs to have a working:
Bluetooth ? Yes
Reliable WiFi ? YES
Camera ? Yes
Games really aren't necessary because I'm giving this tablet to someone that won't be gaming.
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I started reading your thread from the beginning as I though that it was all about the 3d racer game.
You have a Tablet that would like to give to someone that has WebOS installed and also another Android version on it, which is 7.1.2 and you found it to be slow.
My recommendations for a newest ROM is the same as everyone on here recommended Evervolv 7.1.2 Android Nougat. You could use older ROMs but some basic apps may not work.
Previously @DoubleStuff provided the information on how to installed Evervolv 7.1.2 and also provided the link to my guide that with instructions.
If you flashed the Automatic_Wipe_All, then the Tablet is 100 % Android with swap and WebOS is gone, which will provide more storage space on the Tablet.
As per my guide the proper way to flash all the zip files provided is as follow:
Evervolv 7.1.2 Android Nougat
1.Click Here to Download the ROM
2.Click Here to Download the Boost Optimized settings with preset CPU Frequency
3.Click here to download Google Open Apps
Select Platform ARM, Android 7.1 and the Variant you want, Pico is recommended
4.Click Here to Download the Keyboard Fix​
The Boost optimized settings link (2) will give you the option to download 5 different CPU frequency, start with 1728 after you set up the tablet then try a higher speed, the fastest is 1836, if the Tablet boot into Android after flashing 1836 and use some apps and does not freeze then keep using it, if it reboots or freeze then flash 1782 if still not stable keep flashing lower frequencies.
To have a properly working camera, install this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=en_US
If you have any issues just ask.
ashleyquicik said:
Does it needs to have a working:
Bluetooth ? Yes
Reliable WiFi ? YES
Camera ? Yes
Games really aren't necessary because I'm giving this tablet to someone that won't be gaming.
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Well as I talked about in another thread where HP_TOUCHPAD wants to start retrofitting old ROM's with SWAP and Universal boost settings, there is a ROM that most agree is the "greatest ROM of all time", but its an old version of Android called KitKat 4.4.4 by JC Sullins and you can find the link here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712680
Now one version later Lollipop 5.1 ( or 12.1 CM ) this same developer JC Sullins created a Lollipop ROM, that HP_TOUCHPAD is working on retrofitting: As @HP_TOUCHPAD said in a previous thread about this retrofit.
"...I Applied all optimization to CM 12.1, but testing. The only problem that I am experiencing is if I open about 8 to 9 apps and then press the square, next to home, it will reboot. I do not know if is the ROM or my settings.
But overall works great with swap. Will be posting new optimized settings, soon...." -HP_TOUCHPAD
And if I am not mistaken he may have finished it, but its not posted yet in his MASTER ZIP's list
What I recommend you do AshelyQ because its so easy and quick to install ROMs with our install methods, I would install KitKat above and test it for a day or two, then install another one maybe 7.1.2 and again test it, and maybe even another. And then you can pick the one you think meets you or your friends needs the best and stick with that ROM.
I am going to install HP_TOUCHPAD's retrofitted Lollipop ROM ( when HP_TOUCHPAD posts the settings ) and try to run "Run Race 3D" on it....I will report back with my findings.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
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To have a properly working camera, install this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=en_US
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Hmm ... I still get critical camera errors, even with the Open Camera app, even after a couple of reboots.
Do Not Touch said:
Hmm ... I still get critical camera errors, even with the Open Camera app, even after a couple of reboots.
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The stock camera App of 7.1.2 works, but colors and orientation shows incorrectly, but it works on Open Camera.
DoubleStuff said:
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I am going to install HP_TOUCHPAD's retrofitted Lollipop ROM ( when HP_TOUCHPAD posts the settings ) and try to run "Run Race 3D" on it....I will report back with my findings.
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Well I have not tested JC Sullins Lollipop ROM with Universal settings yet, but I just installed JC Sullins 4.4 without swap or any special settings, just the ROM and the GApps, and I am happy to report the "Run Race 3d" game went well, I made it to the BONUS Level and earned 146 coins with lots pomp and circumstance, and was getting adds everytime I completed a race, but I waited 5 seconds then pressed the "X" and things went well. So now I am very curious how these old "great" Android versions will work with HP TOUCHPAD'S Universal settings.
3 days ago I was not a gamer, but I guess I am now!!! LOL The HP Touchpad even had enough memory to take a screen shot.