FYI... in most AT&T stores the Jetstream is now $399.99 with a 2 year agreement or $549.99 outright without contract.... They are discontinuing the tablet but it is a great tablet for this price. So get'em while there still left.
- Dan
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FYI... in most AT&T stores the Jetstream is now $399.99 with a 2 year agreement or $549.99 outright without contract.... They are discontinuing the tablet but it is a great tablet for this price. So get'em while there still left.
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That is a some good news. Seems that now at least we will have more people picking up this monster and may be larger community will help push things along for this deserving device.
Just grabbed one. Love it !
Does seem to lag from time to time but I'm sure once I hack it ill solve that problem.
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short lived device.
Dead community.
RIP.
It would've served HTC better to release the jetstream in the mid of the EVOs life.
what? i dont see it at att.com! lies and slander!
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No u just got here late. Its been off their website for a while now...
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if anyone is upset with jetstream ill trade my white 4g lnib galaxy tab 10.1
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eBay - New Jetstream only $420. incl shipping !
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Brand-Ne...20921088545?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item1c27756221
Brand new, 420.00 including shipping. No contract obviously, by locked to AT&T. But then again there is always the $25.00 unlock process online.
Shipped from China, though.
But if it is protected by eBay, & they seem to have a good track record...maybe worth considering. I am.
However, with the Samsung Note 10.1 just around the corner, hmmm maybe I'll wait a little longer, as we don't have a price on this model yet.
But, good price for HTC Jetstream - Brand New !
Edit. Actually, your protected if you pay with PayPal, not eBay.
Thanks man thats sweet. I like the look of the jetstream better but the note 10.1 is sweet
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Thanks man thats sweet. I like the look of the jetstream better but the note 10.1 is sweet
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Yeah, at $420.00 its very tempting.
I think the closer we get to release date of the 10.1" Samsung Galaxy Note, the more the prices on the HTC Jetstream will drop.
But the updated news on Samsung redesigned and hardware upspec, it may be worth the wait. The new chip speed is the fastest on the tablet market. They are really taking on iPad 3 and I believe like many others, they will have the greatest impact on the market with this new device, with stylus to boot !
Check this site with some benchmarks.
http://www.androidauthority.com/rumor-galaxy-note-10-1-mali-t-604-gpu-benchmark-85727/
...."Based on that and on the amazing scores obtained by the device, we can speculate that Samsung will replace the Mali 400 MP with the new Mali T-604 GPU, a graphics chip that has never been used in a device before. ARM, the designer of both the Mali 400 MP and the Mali T-604 GPUs, claims that the new graphics circuit is 5 times as powerful as the old one, which itself was pretty snappy."
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on ebay theres a store all4cellular, they have them refurbished for $299 i picked one up along with a pantech element for $199 for my son. they both are in excelent shape and came with everything the new ones come with. and save a lot of money and no contract
I saw that, but being overseas I didn't want to risk it, in case it was a DOA or had other issues. So I just ordered a brand new one for 420.
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all4cellular has an ebay listing for 249$; refurb units that is....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Jetstre...20916490942?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item1c272f3abe
u guys have any issues with the pen u think its smooth enough to keep up with fast math lectures
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using lecturenotes app it does.
i've been doing it for about six months now.
can lectureapps be done viably with adonit stylus and galaxy tab 10.1?
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No idea
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can lectureapps be done viably with adonit stylus and galaxy tab 10.1?
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I have not used the galaxy tab 10.1, but have used an adonit on a tablet PC. The most challenging part is that with a normal capacitive touch screen, it will not reject you palm touches as you write. When writing on a notepad, you normally rest part of your hand on the actual notepad.
When using an adonit (or even one of the lesser capacitive pens) on a normal capacitive screen, you will need to hold your hand up, off of the screen -- otherwise, when you touch the screen with your hand, it can conflict with the writing. Having said this, there are some note taking ap's that can restrict the writing area, such that they ignore input on parts of the screen, usually where one's wrist would lie.
My wife has an ipad and uses a capacitive touch pen to take notes -- I forget which note taking application she uses, but she spent some time looking at the different options until she found one she likes for taking notes in meetings that we attend. She cannot take notes as fast I can on my tablet (a Samsung Slate 7), which has an active digitizer that rejects the 'noise' from my palm, once the pen is actively writing. I have used the adonit on the slate as well--while it does better than a normal stubby capacitive pen, it does not keep up with the pen that works with the digitizer.
I picked one up on eBay too for $265.
It was a nice upgrade from the EVO View. I like the larger 10.1 inch screen. But man is this thing heavy and awkward to read in bed.
At least it will hold me over till my next tablet which should hopefully be a 10.1 inch running ICS or Jelly Bean and it should be much much much lighter. The Asus Transformer Infinity looks like it is going to be nice but probably very pricey. And I'm going to miss HTC pen input. I really wish that HTC returns to making a followup tablet.
ill trade u my new galaxy 10.1 4g tab for it. its really light lol
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Good day all. I'm a Best Buy Silver member and have 45 day returns on merchandise. Anyways I picked up the Flyer a week ago and compared to the other tabs I have owned or own (Asus, Acer A500 and A100, HP Touchpad) this is the best in terms of overall functions. Another reason why I say that is because 10 inch tabs are over-the-top; especially if they don't have any ports (that's why I kept the Acer A500). I find 7-9 inchers are more usable. This Flyer is smooth and functions properly unlike most of the Honeycomb tabs. My only concern is will HTC update this beautiful beast? So I'm posing the question to the community of whether to ditch the Flyer or wait it out. Also any input or thoughts about the Samsung 7.0 Plus and if its worth the extra $100 are appreciated
I wish HTC would say something offical and it will make my decision clear.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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Yea this tablet game is crazy. Sometimes I wish I would have been simple and gotten an iPad. Android is getting ridiculous. Anyways the inferred remote, updates, and Samsung usually has a decent amount of accessories is what's keeping me interested. I just have a bad feeling that the flyer is dead.
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its maddening. HTC built an almost perfect tablet in the FLyer and then overpriced it at introduction and has failed to support it properly now. Makes me wonder if they are exiting the tablet market.
I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I think the Xoom 2 is a 8.2. I perfer the 7 inch, because I played with the Samsung 8 inch but it is tad big. I'm looking for something I can whip out in public and not look ridiculous. I think the Xoom will cost $545 though, didn't they learn anything?
http://androidcommunity.com/8-inch-...101/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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chimp
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Thank you, but the Nexus S is a phone, isn't it? And, yeah the 10" tab is going to be too large.
I'll have to get to Best Buy and see if they at least have an HTC Flyer on display that I can fiddle with.
I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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You are right. I looked at some benchmark test it test better then every HC tab except te Samsung 10.1
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Black Friday will probably yield some good deals, so I'm at least hanging tight for that pricing to come out before jumping on anything - and I think I'm going to sell my Ipod Touch, latest gen, NEVER use it.
Ahhh, eBay (or friends on FB, lol)
I have the flyer and I love it! It's built super solid, its very fast, and I love how it scales apps in contrast to how to Galaxy tab did. On a 7" device I would end up using more phone apps then tablet apps anyway, so I don't care about honeycomb. I love my Flyer! The only thing that may replace it is the Galaxy Note...but then again I may still keep it since its really not worth it to only get $200 used for it. Hell, I'd keep it for that just to lend out or use it as a dedicated clock!
I used to be a active user here on XDA when Wondows mobile was the "cool" Mobile OS. Then I bought a iPod Touch when my father bought into the iPhone 3G. I got sucked into Apple with the 3GS, then the 4. I bought a 64gb 3g iPad when it came out, as well...but then I bought a ATT 3g Galaxy Tab refurbished just to try out android....and fell in love.(it made me feel like I used to with windows mobile...the customization) I kept the TAB for a few months then decided to sell both my iPad and my Tab and buy a iPad wifi for cheap, and a Flyer. I canceled my contract and used my unlimited ipad SIM in my Jailbroken iPhone 4....Loving life($30 a month is my only phone bill!)! That iPhone may be downgraded to a mp3 player though....since I am eye balling the Galaxy Note now.
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I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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The WiFi version is $300 on Amazon. But yes, the GSM one that I want is still pretty pricey. If I got the original Tab, though, I'd just pick it up from eBay or the forums or something. Or, maybe it will be on sale during Black Friday, since any retailers that still have them need to clear their inventory to make room for the Plus.
This is a hard decision, to be honest. After doing some more research on the Flyer, it seems that the easiest one to acquire in the States (the WiFi one from Best Buy), is also the one that throws up hurdles for modders, such as the inability to go back to stock from a custom ROM.
Now I'm kind of back at square one, debating between the original Tab, the Tab Plus, the Flyer, the IdeaPad A1, and pending more details and reviews, the Huawei MediaPad.
Looking for a tablet. 10.1 been out for 11 months now. Is it outdated? I'm looking at this tablet because I trust Samsung to deliver quality products and 10.1 has been the most popular tablet I've read about.
Screen size, and android version are the most important to me.
What do u guys think. Is there another tablet I should be looking at? And no, I'm not paying $800 for a iPad, etc lol
Thanks
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Looking for a tablet. 10.1 been out for 11 months now. Is it outdated? I'm looking at this tablet because I trust Samsung to deliver quality products and 10.1 has been the most popular tablet I've read about.
Screen size, and android version are the most important to me.
What do u guys think. Is there another tablet I should be looking at? And no, I'm not paying $800 for a iPad, etc lol
Thanks
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Depends on what price your getting it for. I got a 32gb wifi one for £270 which is about $350 I think. If ics is really important and you need it NOW without rooting then it isn't for you, depending on how much you have to spend the tf201 might be better, the tf300 I heard is good but it's not available in the UK so I can't vouch for it. You could consider the tab 2 as well but in reality it probably slightly worse than the og tab sans ics!
Since your on xda I take it you care about the development aspect which probably means that the only real manufacturers you should consider would be Samsung, Asus, Archos and Motorola. Development on the acer, Toshiba, htc tabs etc are not nearly as active as others.
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I think it all depends on what your real need/expectation. I had an ASUS Transformer Prime that was far superior in most ways to the Gtab, but did not hold onto the WiFi signal well and the promised GPS, as designed, did not function. Those were two very important factors for me and I replaced the Prime with the Galaxy Tab.
The tab is slower, no ICS (yet), poorer screen touch sensitivity, fingerprints pile up in a hurry, and the cameras are not nearly as nice. BUT, for the need I have, the Prime didn't cut it and I'm much happier with the Samsung.
Just wish ICS would get here. I'm on the AOKP releases but it sure would be nice to have a working camera. (I know, I have a smart phone for that)
Not sure where you live but, in the states the galaxy tab 2 10.1 is out and retails at $400 for the 16gb wifi only version. I am sure that deals can be found for a first generation gtab, but the 16gb wifi version starts at $450.
The new one adds an SD card slot and a universal ir remote. I think the screen is close to the same if the same and the processor is pretty close too. The speakers face forward on the new one. That does seem to make a difference. Of course, the gtab2 comes with ics. The gtab1 will eventually get ics but who knows when.
Asus does have the tf-300 out at $400. Specs on paper are better than the gtab2. Personally, I'd go with a gtab2 but that is because I watch movies on my tab. I believe the Asus does have stereo speakers but they are right next to one another. The Asus does blow away the gtab2 in benchmarks but for my uses I don't see a noticeable difference. IMHO the screens on the gtab's are nicer too.
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Not sure where you live but, in the states the galaxy tab 2 10.1 is out and retails at $400 for the 16gb wifi only version. I am sure that deals can be found for a first generation gtab, but the 16gb wifi version starts at $450.
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When I was considering buying my gtab my shortlisted tabs for my pricepoint were:
Archos G9 101
Moto Xoom
Asus TF101
Samsung Gtab
Toshiba Thrive
I ignored the Archos because it looked crap, I ignored the xoom & transformer because they were too heavy, thick & bulky and I ignored the thrive because it was stuck in the legacy boards. That was my reasoning!
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I just picked up a mint condition 16GB for $250 on Craigslist locally. I think, at that price point, it's still a very valid option if you're in the market.
Go for the tf300. Its a generation ahead.
Oh and it is out in the UK.
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Looking for a tablet. 10.1 been out for 11 months now. Is it outdated? I'm looking at this tablet because I trust Samsung to deliver quality products and 10.1 has been the most popular tablet I've read about.
Screen size, and android version are the most important to me.
What do u guys think. Is there another tablet I should be looking at? And no, I'm not paying $800 for a iPad, etc lol
Thanks
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Popular? Yes.
Why? Cause samsung.
Has a good hardware? Hell no.
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I would not buy again, because of the unbelievable slowness of delivering updates by Samsung.
A new HTC tablet is comming to the UK. I hope it is gonna be a 7 inch with stylus. That is the size I need.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-vertex-hd-tablet-uncovered-with-quad-core-tegra-3-12238285/
they should fix honeycomb before moving on
I would not buy it until HTC proves they are committed to it
Flyer
Actually, a new device hopefully not too different from Flyer with a new ROM would be a nice port base. Why complain?
EDIT: http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/12/htc-vertex-pops-up-in-benchmarks/
Because some like official rom
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I would not buy it until HTC proves they are committed to it
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I came here to pretty much say the same thing. HTC's lack of decent support for tablets has turned me off to their future offerings until they get their act together. They also dropped the ball on my Evo 3D which is another sore subject. lol.
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the support for one was very bad and as only tablet we do not get ICS, thei can forget me as customer
HTC can go suck a fat one. I'm sorry. But this is their second foray into the tablet market, & again they're (planning to) release their product with an outdated OS. Why a crappy 2MP rear camera? HTC have seen the last of my money. Anybody interested in their products, I wish them good luck.
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After miserable failures on the Flyer and Jet Stream (I own a Flyer) which were good hardware but failed due to extreme high price and lack of software updates, I doubt HTC can make any headway. I expect this new tablet will be priced at about $600 if HTC history has any bearing
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Honeycomb works fine for me.
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HTC can go suck a fat one. I'm sorry. But this is their second foray into the tablet market, & again they're (planning to) release their product with an outdated OS. Why a crappy 2MP rear camera? HTC have seen the last of my money. Anybody interested in their products, I wish them good luck.
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Huh the page I read said it was running ICS...how is that "outdated"?
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After miserable failures on the Flyer and Jet Stream (I own a Flyer) which were good hardware but failed due to extreme high price and lack of software updates, I doubt HTC can make any headway. I expect this new tablet will be priced at about $600 if HTC history has any bearing
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2 MP camera sounds more like in a budget tablet. $600 will be too high for a budget tablet. Tablet market is very competitive. Very nice wifi only tablets are coming for $ 100 nowadays with ics on them. So $ 350 approx seems to be a good price for competition.
Edit: didn't read the op link. Seems tegra 3 quad core with 10 inch display and other features may spoil its pricing.
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I was excited till I read it was 10 inch I really think 7 is the idea size. At 10 inches you might as well grab a laptop because portability has gone to hell at that point.
I tend to think HTC will do a better job with this tablet though. I think it'll be priced modestly between $300 to $350, and marketed very well too. All and all for what its worth, they made an excellent tabs with the Flyer, View, and Jetstream, but poor marketing and high tags killed all 3, and I got no hard feelings. The Flyer is a failed product, *****ing about no more updates is like buying a Sega Dreamcast and *****ing about no new games coming out for it.
Here's my vision for the perfect HTC tab, same shape and design as the flyer, but with a one x type paint job, and poly carbonate shell instead of aluminum for a better grip, less weight, and reduced cost. Hardware keys just like the Flyer, but updated with the new layout, which would work wonders with the new tablet ui on Jellybean. A Sense 4 launcher that can rotate to landscape, and of course tegra 3 internals, and maybe the same front and rear cameras that are on the flyer, but they could do away with the 2 "grips" on the sides of the flyer, and just have a solid back, and a straight port for the SD slot.
I'd definitely be ineterested in a 7" Tegra 3 Flyer running Jellybean. If it came with an sdCard slot and I could reuse my ntrig pen, I'd even spend $50.00 to $100.00 more than an equivalent Nexus 7.
I've had my Flyer for nearly a year and it's been great that whole time. I'll keep using it for some time to come, too. But at some point I'm going to want something faster.
I agree, stupid move for HTC, if it will be 10".
In 10" segment they will compete with Transformer and Transformer Prime with the same or better specs. If they add pen input, they will compete with Lenovo Tablet (dual core), which already fallen in price and will go down even more. And all compete with iPad and upcoming Microsoft Surface.
7" is a lot more forgiving market for HTC. Sure, Nexus is here, but add pen input, mini hdmi, SD slot and people will pay $350 for it (even if pen is separate) and it will be in a different niche.
I think all Android tablets should probably be focused on 7 inch size and $300 price tag because the ipad is an unstoppable force and starts at $400. Apple supposedly is making ipad minis but I'll believe it when I see it. Steve Jobs openly ripped on the 7 inch size calling it a "tweener" size that's too small to be useful for a tablet and too large for a phone. So in other words 7 inch tabs offer something apple doesn't provide. Asus has had moderate success at competing against the ipad in the 10 inch category but I'm certain it's very little and hell a judge in Europe just threw out an injuction from apple against Samsung over the galaxy Tab 10.1 stating no one would confuse the product's because they tab simply isn't as cool as an ipad. At this point in time the 10 inch tablet market is lost to apple.
However starting with supercharged pseudo e reader tablets such as the Nook Color and Kindle Fire, the 7 inch wallet friendly android tablet has taken off like a rocket. Pre sales for the Nexus 7 are going fast and the hype machine is unstoppable. HTC should totally get in on this and ignore the 10 inch tablet market.
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Droff said:
I agree, stupid move for HTC, if it will be 10".
In 10" segment they will compete with Transformer and Transformer Prime with the same or better specs. If they add pen input, they will compete with Lenovo Tablet (dual core), which already fallen in price and will go down even more. And all compete with iPad and upcoming Microsoft Surface.
7" is a lot more forgiving market for HTC. Sure, Nexus is here, but add pen input, mini hdmi, SD slot and people will pay $350 for it (even if pen is separate) and it will be in a different niche.
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You know how to market
I'm with you guys. Give me an HTC 7 inch jelly bean tablet with pen and sd and ill pay a 100 more than a nexus for it
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Too little too late for HTC. They don;t have a niche to go for with Samsung going after the stylus tabs and Google leading the fold in 7 inch pricing and the Ipad mini coming in Oct. HTC is look like RIM these days. And HTC is never going to approach the $250 range for a tablet because there is no profit in it at that price and no Google subsidy to offset the cost like the Asus Nexus 7.
Actually, manufacturing tablets is not as profitable as manufacturing phones for any company. 4.1-4.5 inches Phones like HTC one x, galaxy s2 and s3 etc. are selling for about 600$. While 7 inches HTC flyer with phone functionality and 7 inches Samsung galaxy tab 2 etc are selling for $350-400. Even 10 inches apple ipad sells for much less than much smaller iPhone. ( I know some money goes in certification, but still a lot of profit in phones)
Phones are there cash cows and tablets are just to be present there in that segment.
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thewadegeek said:
Huh the page I read said it was running ICS...how is that "outdated"?
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I don't know if you have heard of an OS called Jelly Bean? It is Android's latest OS. It's it's updated from last year's ICS OS. Maybe I'm confused, but logic dictates that an OS released after a previous OS would make the previous OS outdated.
The same way HTC shipped the Flyer with GB when tablets were already running Honeycomb.
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Hey all,
I don't have a Flyer, but I thought it'd be better to post here than the Jetstream forum, since there's like, 3 active users there.
My Jetstream was stolen on the weekend, and I need to get a new tablet. However, I want one with an active (aka pressure-sensitive) stylus, as I had grown quite attached to that feature on the Jetstream.
My initial reaction was to get a Flyer or another Jetstream, but I started wondering if there's a more popular tablet (aka one that has/will get ICS and/or JB) that has the same functionality.
Thoughts anyone?
Not quite a tablet, but look into the Galaxy Note. I want one personally.
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Not quite a tablet, but look into the Galaxy Note. I want one personally.
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It's too small. Ideally I want a 10-inch screen, as I've been using my Jetstream for things like designing the odd tattoo and drawing the occasional guest comic strip for my friend's website. A 5.5" (or whatever) screen wouldn't be enough, but I could make due with a Flyer. (Found one on kijiji for $150, just waiting for the seller to respond.)
I've also realized that the Galaxy Note 10.1 will be out in a few weeks, and has an active digitizer, so if I can't get the $150 Flyer, I think I'll hold out for that.
craig0r said:
I've also realized that the Galaxy Note 10.1 will be out in a few weeks, and has an active digitizer, so if I can't get the $150 Flyer, I think I'll hold out for that.
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Although I prefer the 7 inch size, this is what I’ll buy to replace my 4 flyers
Got any older tabs u guys want to get rid of?
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I have had my prime since early January with the dock, and while I do love it (have it unlocked with CM10 preview on it), after I got my new laptop, I haven't used it nearly at all. After seeing the new promo video for the Note 10.1, i have to say that I'm impressed, even though it is sped up. As a college student with a laptop already, I'm thinking that the Note 10.1 would be more useful/productive. My question is, would you think anyone would trade a brand new Note 10.1 for a 6-month old, unlocked prime with dock? And would that be a good trade? Thanks.
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dragonforce11 said:
I have had my prime since early January with the dock, and while I do love it (have it unlocked with CM10 preview on it), after I got my new laptop, I haven't used it nearly at all. After seeing the new promo video for the Note 10.1, i have to say that I'm impressed, even though it is sped up. As a college student with a laptop already, I'm thinking that the Note 10.1 would be more useful/productive. My question is, would you think anyone would trade a brand new Note 10.1 for a 6-month old, unlocked prime with dock? And would that be a good trade? Thanks.
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I don't think anyone would do that trade unless they themselves got the note & wasn't happy with it. Your best bet would be to sell the prime & use that money toward a note...IMO.
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I have had my prime since early January with the dock, and while I do love it (have it unlocked with CM10 preview on it), after I got my new laptop, I haven't used it nearly at all. After seeing the new promo video for the Note 10.1, i have to say that I'm impressed, even though it is sped up. As a college student with a laptop already, I'm thinking that the Note 10.1 would be more useful/productive. My question is, would you think anyone would trade a brand new Note 10.1 for a 6-month old, unlocked prime with dock? And would that be a good trade? Thanks.
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The Note isn't even out yet. Why would someone buy it, just to trade it.
Also the Prime is plagued with issues.
What a question..
Trade a new tablet for an eight-month old tablet riddled with hardware issues?
You've got quite the sense of humor.
I was thinking more along the lines of the dock coming with it making it a sweeter deal.
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dragonforce11 said:
I was thinking more along the lines of the dock coming with it making it a sweeter deal.
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Not a sweet deal to begin with. How would it make it sweeter?
Well, because the tab and dock were originally $650 and, even with the depreciated value of the tab, it is still quad core, unlocked, and has (most likely) double the memory, in addition to the dock coming with it, in exchange for a tab that is most likely going to be $500 or, if Samsung wants to compete with the cheaper tablets, maybe $450. That's why.
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ungraph said:
Trade a new tablet for an eight-month old tablet riddled with hardware issues?
You've got quite the sense of humor.
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Lol I agree
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Ya might get a Note phone for that but Id go with the suggestion above and sell it and put the money towards the Note. I've got a LTE note with a tablet ROM on it and its great. I can do just about everything I can on my prime just ultra portable. Ya drop the DPI to 160 on the Note and its essentially a 5.3 inch tablet PC. just my opinion though
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Well, because the tab and dock were originally $650 and, even with the depreciated value of the tab, it is still quad core, unlocked, and has (most likely) double the memory, in addition to the dock coming with it, in exchange for a tab that is most likely going to be $500 or, if Samsung wants to compete with the cheaper tablets, maybe $450. That's why.
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The Note 10.1 will probably be more then that. It is also a quad-core, and has double the RAM that the Prime has. Note 10.1 has higher specs that the Prime.
Most people who want a tablet don't care about the dock.
Also the Prime has issues with it, which is almost basic knowledge. Hell, try to even sell it on Kijiji and you'll get a million questions asking about wifi etc issues with the Prime.
I guess it would be a good deal, but the question is...
Who is the one getting the good deal?
You or the person you are trading with?
Definitely not a sweet deal. I've had a hard time trying to sell my locked factory spec prime with 1 dead pixel for $300-ish (no dock).
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-gt-n8000-galaxy-note-10-1-16gb-unlocked-white.html#.UCFgJMIjbXs
Their price tag is $749.50 for the note 10.1 -- which may or may not be a good representation of the price when the rest of the retailers start selling it.
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Definitely not a sweet deal. I've had a hard time trying to sell my locked factory spec prime with 1 dead pixel for $300-ish (no dock).
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-gt-n8000-galaxy-note-10-1-16gb-unlocked-white.html#.UCFgJMIjbXs
Their price tag is $749.50 for the note 10.1 -- which may or may not be a good representation of the price when the rest of the retailers start selling it.
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The real price should be announced at the Samsung conference on Aug 15th in NY.
Did you get it at Best Buy? If so, take it back under the manufacturer's warranty due to the wifi/gps issues and get a gift card towards the Note 10.1 when it comes out.
Otherwise, yeah....sell it and use the money towards the Note. I don't think anybody's gonna make that trade.