Hello!
From what I've read, the 1st-gen Windows Phones (Trophy, Mozart, HD7, etc) have a SD-CARD memory instead of a NAND. By using this, a lot of people expanded their memory by swapping the SD-CARD.
Does the Radar have an internal SD-CARD or a NAND storage?
Thanks,
Andrei.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAwJu8b0dXs
You'll see a SD card at 1:35.
I didn't see one.
Me neither... Are you sure?
Under the SIM card slot. Or I misunderstood?
nhoc_maruko9x said:
Under the SIM card slot. Or I misunderstood?
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It's not. It does kind of look like one though.
might it be this thing?
(As i'm a new user that never replied before, I still can't hotlink images, you will have to copy&paste, sorry >_<)
http :// img339.imageshack.us/img339/6641/esede.jpg
wimpbattousai said:
might it be this thing?
(As i'm a new user that never replied before, I still can't hotlink images, you will have to copy&paste, sorry >_<)
http :// img339.imageshack.us/img339/6641/esede.jpg
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Nope... Actually you can see that between 3:30 and 3:34 (need to watch in slow motion) that there is one block-chip that is orange dotted. It seems to be a NAND of the phone. What is more, it sizes reminds me the iPhone NAND storage produced by Samsung and while hTC loves to cooperate with its South Korean friend (i've got hTC Desire which is made in 50% out of components that come from Samsung's factories ) I can speculate that it is similar chip. And that unfortunately means that Radar's storage is unexpendable .
P.S. Sorry for any mistakes English is not my native language.
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is there in new HTC's wm7 devices no microSDHC slots???
No,i think...
for ****'s sake
Of all the ones that were announced I think there's only one with an sd slot, from LG.
Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...
Most of the phones are equipped with SD cards/slots but as Microsoft dictates: non-user-accesible. If you replace the card the phone will be hard-reset (as all user data, etc. is stored on the card u just removed).
U won't be able to do so without disassembling the phone though.
StevieBallz said:
Most of the phones are equipped with SD cards/slots but as Microsoft dictates: non-user-accesible. If you replace the card the phone will be hard-reset (as all user data, etc. is stored on the card u just removed).
U won't be able to do so without disassembling the phone though.
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so it is possible to put 32GB HCSD in to it if u disasemble it, and it will still work ? will that void the waranty ?
vladimir2989 said:
will that void the waranty ?
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99.9% it would, yes. Looking at my Mozart, it's not entirely obvious how you could disassemble it if you wanted to!
I wouldn't recomend it to be honest, although I agree it totally sucks that none of the HTC devices include slots.
well on HD7 its possible...
"new microSD card was fully accepted by the device (after the initial trouble)."
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http://www.theunwired.net/?item=dis...ne-7-memory-management-and-microsd-cards&5674
It is possible
I upgraded my Mozart today to a 16GB card I had lying around. Not too complicated but involves a fair bit of dismantling and going through a void sticker.
I posted an "how to" article here on my blog. Email me at [email protected] for a link as I cannot post it here without getting an error.
Cheers
Andy
Here are the links you need:
h ttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831579
h ttp://lifeinthefastlaneok.wordpress.com/2010/11/07/new-htc-7-mozart-sd-card-memory-upgrade/
(just remove the spaces after 1st h to get the propper links)
would 32GB Class 6 work fine ? and also will this effect Updates from MS, is there any serials on SD card that have to match up or something like that ? (hope not)
vladimir2989 said:
would 32GB Class 6 work fine ? and also will this effect Updates from MS, is there any serials on SD card that have to match up or something like that ? (hope not)
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I know the HD7 seems to have shipped with legacy card, so a Class 6 should be fine and in fact increase performance.
Considering AT&T is promoting the Focus for its more accessible SD slot, serials are not necessary and updates will be uninterrupted.
Your warranty does go down the drain though.
Why is the total storage space only showing 19.61GB and not anywhere nearer the 32GB space? Where is almost 11GB?
Anybody noticed this?
YOSEFE said:
Why is the total storage space only showing 19.61GB and not anywhere nearer the 32GB space? Where is almost 11GB?
Anybody noticed this?
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I noticed this. The "internal storage" where apps go is something like 7Gb! Why is that and can we change it? Even then, it doesnt quite add up. There must be some reserved space we cannot access I assume.
YOSEFE said:
Why is the total storage space only showing 19.61GB and not anywhere nearer the 32GB space? Where is almost 11GB?
Anybody noticed this?
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say whuuut!! :-O
That's quite a loss of space!
32gb as formatted will be around 28gbs available to the file system. Then you have OS rom taking up 9gb it sounds like.
My droid x 2.2 rom takes up about 3.8gb.
9gb does sound like alot but not unreasonable.
shadohh said:
32gb as formatted will be around 28gbs available to the file system. Then you have OS rom taking up 9gb it sounds like.
My droid x 2.2 rom takes up about 3.8gb.
9gb does sound like alot but not unreasonable.
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Is it just me or is it just strange to say that you get 32 gig but 9 of it goes to rom?
jeroenpico said:
Is it just me or is it just strange to say that you get 32 gig but 9 of it goes to rom?
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It is strange. 7Gb goes to the ROM and stores all your data. Personally, I cant see a need for more than 1.5Gb at the moment. Either way, some ability to change it would be nice.
So I asked HTC about this and whether we can link more than one device to HTC SENSE, this is what I got!
Dear Ira,
Congratulations on your new HTC Flyer!
You are correct, a portion of the internal storage is devoted to the device management itself. As you have probably already noticed, the device does also support removable SD Card capability. In regards to the HTCSense account, you are also correct. At this time, only one device can be linked at a time. We currently do not have any information pertaining to any potential updates to the device; however, any announcements will be posted on our www.htc.com website.
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So I asked HTC about this and whether we can link more than one device to HTC SENSE, this is what I got!
Dear Ira,
Congratulations on your new HTC Flyer!
You are correct, a portion of the internal storage is devoted to the device management itself. As you have probably already noticed, the device does also support removable SD Card capability. In regards to the HTCSense account, you are also correct. At this time, only one device can be linked at a time. We currently do not have any information pertaining to any potential updates to the device; however, any announcements will be posted on our www.htc.com website.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P512 using XDA Premium App
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Yes, we are fixed, HTC said the following to me also:
'HTC Flyer shows 19.61GB because of many reasons. 32GB is raw memory size and after formatting it is always less than 32gb, it is same like when you formatt your SDcard. Another reason is Android system and all applications are already installed in memory. Your Flyer is not faulty.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11GBCW21ENA001983.
Sincerely,
Tomas
HTC'
32GB wouldn't decrease to 19GB after being formatted.
another CS "inaccuracy" (to remain polite )
I agree with you.
We wish we could get better for the money we pay for these over-priced gadgets.
you have 19.61 for movies and such from watch,( maybe able to use as SD card as well) and then you have 7.24 (+/- a little bit) for applications and ROM so that is pretty close to the 28GB that you get once fromated
My Wifi-only 16 GB model has 8.69 GB total storage space. A little disappointing...
System + data + sdcard (+ some others boot etc) partitions = internal storage...
And yes you did see right... Sdcard partition is infact the internal memory ... The actual SD card is called SDcard2 (from memory)
Kris
I think storage size is as it is.. just partitioned the way not many hope to have..
7+gb for main + 19+gb for secondary memory (aka SDCARD) = 28+gb
Comes up to the same a 32gb SD card would show when formatted.
As to why they have 7+gb, its a personal preference.. if they allow only 1.5gb, some other dud will complain that its too small. They probably ask why didn't htc allow more since they dun need so much secondary storage because of the additional SD option.
i00 said:
System + data + sdcard (+ some others boot etc) partitions = internal storage...
And yes you did see right... Sdcard partition is infact the internal memory ... The actual SD card is called SDcard2 (from memory)
Kris
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Sd card on mine is called ext_sd
I wonder if anyone's looked in to this? Could be huge - most of us have a dead simcard slot - I wonder if there's a way to hack in an sdcard reader to the hardware?
What dead MicroSD card slot?
Do you mean the slot that has the serial # info and has nothing to do with ab SD card?
RojasTKD said:
What dead MicroSD card slot?
Do you mean the slot that has the serial # info and has nothing to do with ab SD card?
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He said dead sim card slot, not dead MicroSD card slot. The OP clearly realises the slot has nothing to do with an SD card. Seems you have misunderstood or not bothered to read it properly but nevertheless im sure the pretty much redundant piece of plastic with the serial info is something that I'm sure a lot of TP users would be prepared to sacrifice if they could mod in a card reader.
If you're going to hack anything then hack the USB port to work as a host and read away!
coolhand83 said:
He said dead sim card slot, not dead MicroSD card slot. The OP clearly realises the slot has nothing to do with an SD card. Seems you have misunderstood or not bothered to read it properly but nevertheless im sure the pretty much redundant piece of plastic with the serial info is something that I'm sure a lot of TP users would be prepared to sacrifice if they could mod in a card reader.
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Yes, I misunderstood... my apologies.
I've wondered if it would be possible to solder in a wire from a +5v somewhere to the USB. (I'm sure someone will quickly point out if this is a "bad" idea...)
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tekowalsky said:
I've wondered if it would be possible to solder in a wire from a +5v somewhere to the USB. (I'm sure someone will quickly point out if this is a "bad" idea...)
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you would probably need to create 5v first. the touchpad I think runs off something like 3v. while I seems like a good idea to hack in a card reader,my feeling is not to.worry until you in out of memory. a better idea might be a device stuck to the back containing a extra battery and a card.reader. It would make the tablet thicker but increase battery life and provide plenty of storageas well as providing the power needed for the reader.
PA49 said:
If you're going to hack anything then hack the USB port to work as a host and read away!
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This would also be awesome. I think it would take a bit more for this though than an sdcard since the sdcard can operate up to 3.7v.
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LateralOctober said:
This would also be awesome. I think it would take a bit more for this though than an sdcard since the sdcard can operate up to 3.7v.
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Sorry I wasn't clear enough, you can do this for real right now!
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Sorry I wasn't clear enough, you can do this for real right now!
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Do you have a link?
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Do you have a link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316174
And there is another fuller in depth post on another forum which I will not post here as the last time I tried to be helpful I was accused of spamming and threatened with a ban so you will have to try a google.
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Oh what the heck
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3724-functional-usb-host-on-touchpad/
pa49 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316174
And there is another fuller in depth post on another forum which I will not post here as the last time I tried to be helpful I was accused of spamming and threatened with a ban so you will have to try a google.
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Oh what the heck
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3724-functional-usb-host-on-touchpad/
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Well that's not near what the OP was talking about. An SD card that give you build in storage, even on the go, is much more practical than this option.
Still could be useful, but for me it not very practical.
RojasTKD said:
Well that's not near what the OP was talking about. An SD card that give you build in storage, even on the go, is much more practical than this option.
Still could be useful, but for me it not very practical.
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Of course it isn't, but it is what I was talking about and the OP asked for the link.
So what's your problem?
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Of course it isn't, but it is what I was talking about and the OP asked for the link.
So what's your problem?
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I don't have a problem...
1. I didn't see where he asked about it... my apologies there.
2. Just pointing out the limited usefulness compared to the SD card solution.
I wasn't trying to be a jerk.
Personally I think the best solution would have been if HP would of just included an SD or MicroSD card. It drive me nuts when manufacturers mimic the apple model and give you less option and features as if that will equal success (looking at you Touchpad and GalaxyTab 10.1).
Um... Looks like the subject is just about buried in the amount of crap everyone has been piling on so far.
So back to constructive discussion... What are the advantages of having SD card in your mobile device (be it a phone or a tablet)?
I have a 16GB microSD card in my Nexus One, and I have never taken it out. I almost wish all of the flash was just integrated.
With quality of USB and network file transfer protocols I think SD is just about useless.
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Um... Looks like the subject is just about buried in the amount of crap everyone has been piling on so far.
So back to constructive discussion... What are the advantages of having SD card in your mobile device (be it a phone or a tablet)?
I have a 16GB microSD card in my Nexus One, and I have never taken it out. I almost wish all of the flash was just integrated.
With quality of USB and network file transfer protocols I think SD is just about useless.
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Very simple, I can put all my photos, videos, documents, downloads, Maps for my GPS apps on my SD card. It leaves more space on my device for apps and if and when I wipe my device I don't lose any of it. I've had time when I was having an issue with a device and had to wipe everything. Having certain files on my SDcard kept me from loosing anything. with my phone I've stored different ROM on my SDcard so I could test them out and switch between various ROM with ease.
I don't take my SDcard out either, the purpose of the SDcard isn't to move files from you computer to you phone but rather as storage.
But, I'll give you $10 for that useless 16GB microSD card.
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Very simple, I can put all my photos, videos, documents, downloads, Maps for my GPS apps on my SD card. It leaves more space on my device for apps and if and when I wipe my device I don't lose any of it. I've had time when I was having an issue with a device and had to wipe everything. Having certain files on my SDcard kept me from loosing anything. with my phone I've stored different ROM on my SDcard so I could test them out and switch between various ROM with ease.
I don't take my SDcard out either, the purpose of the SDcard isn't to move files from you computer to you phone but rather as storage.
But, I'll give you $10 for that useless 16GB microSD card.
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Technically a TouchPad without hardware damage is unbrickable, USB is connected to CPU so you could always push a boot image to RAM.
You do bring up a valid issue, but some of the ways you can stop relying on local storage are cloud storage and cloud backups. These Palm accounts that we get with WebOS on the TouchPads do just that.
Which brings us to the next question, can we have an application to access our Palm accounts from Android?
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You do bring up a valid issue, but some of the ways you can stop relying on local storage are cloud storage and cloud backups. These Palm accounts that we get with WebOS on the TouchPads do just that.
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But I like local storage. I rather have my music on my SD card. There are some picture I'd also like to have on my device locally. Same with documents and a variety of other thing. I don't have to have everything on there, but there are something I would like to have. Not to mention that being a WiFi device I can't always have access to cloud storage.
There is room for both in my opinion.
OK, I'm done... back to you regularly scheduled thread.
ive been curious about this since i got mine, but i have a 32gb, so its never really been a project in the front of my mind...imma take a look at the whitesheets and teardowns (cuz i dont wanna open mine if SD isnt possible ) and see if there are even pins for data available, but im pretty sure there isnt, which would also explain why devs are working on getting OTG running
Hi guys,
first thanks for your help with my previous problem.
Unfortunately another problem came up.
My SD card deleted one folder with videos. It was
pretty strange because I was watching one of them
and then I just went to homescreen and when I turned
the screen on again this folder with videos which was
on my sd card just disappeared. And even when I
connected the tablet with pc it wasnt there.
And also some spotify songs which were on it just
deleted themselves. I dont know if it is problem with
the sd card or with my device or it just can happen.
The format of those videos was mp4 and I was using
the MX player.
Do you know what it might be?
Could it be a virus?
Probably not a virus. I'd suspect a bad quality SD card causing file table corruption since it sounds too random to be a controlled deletion. Was the deleted files perhaps the newest ones?
Try connecting the card to a PC and run a filesystem check.
Djhg2000 said:
Probably not a virus. I'd suspect a bad quality SD card causing file table corruption since it sounds too random to be a controlled deletion. Was the deleted files perhaps the newest ones?
Try connecting the card to a PC and run a filesystem check.
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I havent tried it yet but I will, thanks for the tip. And yes it suits your description
and also the files were deleted when I was not connected to the internet.
So it is probably a bad SD card even when it is a class 10 card...
Charll13 said:
I havent tried it yet but I will, thanks for the tip. And yes it suits your description
and also the files were deleted when I was not connected to the internet.
So it is probably a bad SD card even when it is a class 10 card...
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Bad cards can come from anywhere, in most cases the bad ones are discarded in QA testing but in sometimes they pass the initial tests. You could also have some physical flaw on your card which would still make it pass the electrical tests. Compare it to another card and see if it's thinner (particularly SanDisk had huge issues with fake cards showing this specific issue) and use the manufacturers authenticity testing utility if they have one. The problem with fake cards is mainly how to reach the ones affected by them since they usually have no idea the card is fake until it's too late.
Just out of curiosity, what brand is it?
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Bad cards can come from anywhere, in most cases the bad ones are discarded in QA testing but in sometimes they pass the initial tests. You could also have some physical flaw on your card which would still make it pass the electrical tests. Compare it to another card and see if it's thinner (particularly SanDisk had huge issues with fake cards showing this specific issue) and use the manufacturers authenticity testing utility if they have one. The problem with fake cards is mainly how to reach the ones affected by them since they usually have no idea the card is fake until it's too late.
Just out of curiosity, what brand is it?
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Its an SD card from a shop in Australia but I really cant remember its name. All I know is the shop
is pretty good and the price for the card was similar compared to for example SanDisc.
So technically it should be a good card.
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Its an SD card from a shop in Australia but I really cant remember its name. All I know is the shop
is pretty good and the price for the card was similar compared to for example SanDisc.
So technically it should be a good card.
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No it really won't technically be a good quality card unless its one of the big OEMs and even then there are bad quality cards from them.
If its a no name card then it doesn't matter what they said the specs are, it is most likely a cheaply made card that is going to run into significant issues. The upside of Sandisc or PNY is they have a replacement guarantee as long as its a manufacturers defect, most no name or off brand cards don't have any kind of warranty
And not trying to burst your bubble but just because you paid a certain price doesn't mean that it will make the card better, I have learned my lesson the hard way with such things.
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hello.
something for people who lack the internal memory is limited I only external card capacity
http://forum.android.com.pl/f1016/external_sd-sdcard0-zamiana-lokalizacji-396079/#post3396684
lioko27 said:
hello.
something for people who lack the internal memory is limited I only external card capacity
http://forum.android.com.pl/f1016/external_sd-sdcard0-zamiana-lokalizacji-396079/#post3396684
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Hi, I'd like to know more about this but what language its? I understand nothing.
Thanks
It's polski... I couldn't understand either... You can try Google translator... It is not the best, but may help.