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Hi,
Due to HTC's special touches, the recovery image doesnt stay flashed, and on normal boot its flashed over (meaning if i try to go to recovery after a normal boot, i get the red triangle stuff, and have to pull the battery). I was wondering if this would potentially cause troubles if i was trying to flash a custom ROM from recovery? in other notes, i do find sometimes i have to pull the battery 4 or 5 times to get it to normally boot (thats without holding the buttons >.>).
Thanks in advance.
HTC HERO recovery image flashing problems
I am having exactly the same problem!
I did a quite a bit of research on how to root, backup and flash my HERO and every guide I found describes the process using Universal AndRoot + Rom Manager and it seems there should be no problems. I already rooted my phone successfully, installed Rom Manager and flashed either ClockworkMod 2.5.0.1 or RA Recovery 1.7.0.1 which are able to boot but only once. The next time I reboot I get the red triangle warning and it loads into stock recovery (by pressing vol_up + powroff buttons), so the custom recovery lasts only one boot cycle. I was able to backup but I don't want to risk to wipe and flash since there is a chance it might stuck in the bootscreen loop afterwards and I won't be able to do anything.
There is a thing with s-off and SPrecovery which helps to resolve the problem but it doesn't look like there is anything for HERO.
Any help would be appreciated.
ps I tried to manually flash recovery from inside the phone and from windows command line with the same result.
forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/8182-how-to-root-your-hero
posted some similar comments over there, and the only init script that i can find when in recovery.
Yeah I posted my question there too.
I was able to find some information about the issue (he is talking about Villain ROM but I think it doesn't really matter):
pulser_g2:
Repeat the process again, as I think stock ROMs try and overwrite the recovery each time they boot. When you finish the process, immediately nandroid and flash VR12. That will then flash a new recovery, AmonRA 1.6.2a, and you will be sorted
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So it looks like we should just go ahead and flash a custom rom which, in theory, will eliminate the problem.
yeah was tempted to just flash, but sending duck my system img for him to dissect anyway.
yeah worked fine, running cm6.1 now
Yeah once you root you have to flash a custom rom before reboot or u loose the root
I learnt it after lots of reboots and re roots.
but now I wanted to know if I could save the original rom which i have as nand backup to make as an update.zip like custom rom for safe keepimg
I flashed CM6.1 -based TastyFroyo 1.2 and I can confirm custom recovery stays flashed now.
im on hboot 1.5 and i just bought BM (so boot manager noob) and had success (or so i thought) installing a slot 1 rom.. my phone rom is the latest MIUI, and i made the latest Joelz CM9 my slot 1. the rom installed (wiped all 3), and the gapps installed (wiped nothing) but but when i went to boot into the slot 1 (joelz CM9) my phone went into a boot loop and was pushed to CWM recovery. im restoring my nandroid as we speak. any ideas on what i did wrong or what could case this?
I did extensive research prior to buying and trying this app but Im obviously doing something wrong.. maybe its a kernel issue? but i was under the assumption that they both were using miui kernel.. lost plz help, or ill be forced to request a refund
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i am still in boot loop with restoring my nandroid!! wtf?!
Different ROMS require different procedures, with s-on, Meanrom, my personal favorite is easily flashable with .zip files, With other ROMS you will have to unzip the ROM and take the boot.img and place it in SDK tools and push ADB. from usb fastboot through the terminal. zedomax on youtube is super helpful with 3d rooting.
* Make sure to us CWM 4.0.1.4
Because you have 1.5, I think that you should flash the boot.img file via flash gui or fastboot before switching ROM's, that should take care of the situation.
For some reason I can only run stock rooted on my Rezound. I've tried both Clockwork and Amon Ra with no success. I know how to flash ROMs, this is my 6th or 7th Android phone and my 3rd HTC Android phone.
I just relocked my bootloader and flash the stock RUU to restart from scratch and start over. Still, I can't flash ROMs. I put my ROM on the sd card, boot into recovery and wipe data/cache. Then I go into the boot loader and flash the kernel. Then, I just get stuck at the HTC screen forever. It's extremely frustrating considering I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus where I was running an ICS ROM (not the stock one) and I thought the Rezound looked cool so I picked it up. But now I'm stuck on GB.
Am I doing something wrong or missing something? When I first unlocked the phone Saturday I tried to flash an ICS ROM but got stuck at the HTC screen. Then I flashed a different one successfully but it was buggy so I flashed a GB ROM and played with that for a little bit. After that I got stuck and couldn't flash anything without getting stuck at HTC, so I flashed a stock, rooted ROM and from then on that's all I've been able to use.
Edit: So I just tried manually flash the boot.img from the PH98IMG folder by doing fastboot flash boot boot.img and it successfully flashed yet I'm STILL stuck at the HTC screen.... The method ONLY works for the stock ROM for me.
skatingrocker17 said:
For some reason I can only run stock rooted on my Rezound. I've tried both Clockwork and Amon Ra with no success. I know how to flash ROMs, this is my 6th or 7th Android phone and my 3rd HTC Android phone.
I just relocked my bootloader and flash the stock RUU to restart from scratch and start over. Still, I can't flash ROMs. I put my ROM on the sd card, boot into recovery and wipe data/cache. Then I go into the boot loader and flash the kernel. Then, I just get stuck at the HTC screen forever. It's extremely frustrating considering I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus where I was running an ICS ROM (not the stock one) and I thought the Rezound looked cool so I picked it up. But now I'm stuck on GB.
Am I doing something wrong or missing something? When I first unlocked the phone Saturday I tried to flash an ICS ROM but got stuck at the HTC screen. Then I flashed a different one successfully but it was buggy so I flashed a GB ROM and played with that for a little bit. After that I got stuck and couldn't flash anything without getting stuck at HTC, so I flashed a stock, rooted ROM and from then on that's all I've been able to use.
Edit: So I just tried manually flash the boot.img from the PH98IMG folder by doing fastboot flash boot boot.img and it successfully flashed yet I'm STILL stuck at the HTC screen.... The method ONLY works for the stock ROM for me.
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What kernel's are you flashing and what roms ? I know I have ran into trouble with the anthrax kernel with having to flash a stock GB kernel first . It seems for me at least going from GB to ICS or vice versus I have the best luck using stock kernels first. Once, the rom is loaded it has been easy to switch to custom kernels.
So maybe make sure for the GB roms your flashing the stock , unsecured kernel and for ICS the " leaked kernel " that everyone is using for a base.
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What kernel's are you flashing and what roms ? I know I have ran into trouble with the anthrax kernel with having to flash a stock GB kernel first . It seems for me at least going from GB to ICS or vice versus I have the best luck using stock kernels first. Once, the rom is loaded it has been easy to switch to custom kernels.
So maybe make sure for the GB roms your flashing the stock , unsecured kernel and for ICS the " leaked kernel " that everyone is using for a base.
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I'm just flashing whatever kernel comes with the ROM. By that I mean the PH98IMG file that contains the boot.img. Or should I be actually flashing a kernel in recovery?
skatingrocker17 said:
I'm just flashing whatever kernel comes with the ROM. By that I mean the PH98IMG file that contains the boot.img. Or should I be actually flashing a kernel in recovery?
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So your taking the boot.img out and flashing it in fastboot ? that should be fine . Otherwise , put the PH98IMG on the root of the SD card and flash the rom in recovery then reboot to the bootloader (Amon Ra) and let the PH98IMG flash the kernel then reboot phone.
Try one of the ICS ROM's that have the kernel built into the install and follow the instructions which is basically flash ROM in recovery, let it boot to bootloader, press power, vol up when asked etc.
If they offer a separate ph*.zip then it is not automatic
NilsP said:
Try one of the ICS ROM's that have the kernel built into the install and follow the instructions which is basically flash ROM in recovery, let it boot to bootloader, press power, vol up when asked etc.
If they offer a separate ph*.zip then it is not automatic
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So I have been doing it right. I've done that many times and it hasn't worked. I'm messing around with other kernels now, I just flashed this kernel on my stock ROM and it's working, so maybe I can flash an ICS kernel on an ICS rom and everything will work. We'll see.
I installed CleanRom and the kernel it came with and it does one thing differently......... it boots to the HTC screen then after about 10 seconds it reboots back to recovery. This is driving me nuts, I can't flash ANY rom. CleanRom has never worked for me but I did manage to flash a few roms RIGHT after getting the phone on Friday.
I've only been able to successfully install BAMF Rezound Cubed 1.0.2 which is a GB ROM. I've tried to installed Ineffabilis v1.3 which is also a GB ROM but it remains stuck at the HTC screen.
I believe the only other ROM I've been able to flash successfully is Ineffabilis-Deus-v1.0.2-Odex-ICS 4.0.3 sense 3.6, which IS an ICS ROM.
skatingrocker17 said:
I installed CleanRom and the kernel it came with and it does one thing differently......... it boots to the HTC screen then after about 10 seconds it reboots back to recovery. This is driving me nuts, I can't flash ANY rom. CleanRom has never worked for me but I did manage to flash a few roms RIGHT after getting the phone on Friday.
I've only been able to successfully install BAMF Rezound Cubed 1.0.2 which is a GB ROM. I've tried to installed Ineffabilis v1.3 which is also a GB ROM but it remains stuck at the HTC screen.
I believe the only other ROM I've been able to flash successfully is Ineffabilis-Deus-v1.0.2-Odex-ICS 4.0.3 sense 3.6, which IS an ICS ROM.
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I think BAMF Cubed changes/upgrades your mainver. You should get a "mainver is older" error when flashing the ph98. IMG. Is it possible that you got the error but didn't see it-looking away at the time? If so, the easiest way around the mainver issue -imo- is scott's cleanflash tool.
There are many threads about mainver issues. It may be worth checking.
Edit- I re-read the thread, I may be wrong, dunno.
CleanRom will reboot to fastboot after flashing, press power and wait a second or two to install the kernel. This won't work if you DO have the newer mainver.
Hope this was helpful.
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skatingrocker17 said:
I installed CleanRom and the kernel it came with and it does one thing differently......... it boots to the HTC screen then after about 10 seconds it reboots back to recovery. This is driving me nuts, I can't flash ANY rom. CleanRom has never worked for me but I did manage to flash a few roms RIGHT after getting the phone on Friday.
I've only been able to successfully install BAMF Rezound Cubed 1.0.2 which is a GB ROM. I've tried to installed Ineffabilis v1.3 which is also a GB ROM but it remains stuck at the HTC screen.
I believe the only other ROM I've been able to flash successfully is Ineffabilis-Deus-v1.0.2-Odex-ICS 4.0.3 sense 3.6, which IS an ICS ROM.
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As far as Ineffabilis GB, I haven't updated to v1.3 but I can tell you for v1.0 it stays on the white HTC screen for quite a while before booting up. Maybe you didn't wait long enough?
feralicious said:
As far as Ineffabilis GB, I haven't updated to v1.3 but I can tell you for v1.0 it stays on the white HTC screen for quite a while before booting up. Maybe you didn't wait long enough?
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So does CleanROM. First boot is a lesson in patience.
I put my ROM on the sd card, boot into recovery and wipe data/cache. Then I go into the boot loader and flash the kernel. Then, I just get stuck at the HTC screen forever.
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It sounds like you're missing the part where you, you know, actually flash the ROM. The kernel zip and the ROM zip are separate; the kernel (normally found in PH98IMG.zip) is flashed in hboot/fastboot, the ROM (where the zip is called whatever) from recovery. It doesn't matter which order you flash them, but if you flash an ICS kernel and you try to boot before flashing the ICS ROM, for example, you'll get stuck on that white HTC screen when trying to boot.
Many ROMs have a script built in that when you flash the ROM in recovery it will create a PH98IMG.zip and automatically reboot you to the bootloader so you can flash the kernel. It is done this way because if you put the PH98IMG.zip on your sdcard and flash that first you'll have trouble getting back into recovery to flash the ROM after. The hboot won't let you select recovery with that file on the sdcard (obviously, reboot recovery from the OS/ADB still works, but if you reboot and flash the kernel first, you have no way into recovery without removing the sd card). I usually only copy the ROM to my sdcard (not the kernel) to prevent getting locked out of recovery. Go into recovery, wipe data/cache/dalvik, install zip from SD, select the ROM (not the PH98IMG.zip kernel), then reboot into the bootloader and manually fastboot flash boot boot.img. Obviously you don't have to do it that way, that's just my usual method.
Hope this helps somewhat.
feralicious said:
As far as Ineffabilis GB, I haven't updated to v1.3 but I can tell you for v1.0 it stays on the white HTC screen for quite a while before booting up. Maybe you didn't wait long enough?
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I waited like 5 minutes, I know the initial boot process usually takes longer but it usually doesn't sit at the HTC screen for a long period of time, it just seems to hang on the boot animation but I can't even make it that far.
MrSmith317 said:
So does CleanROM. First boot is a lesson in patience.
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All CleanRom does is sit at the HTC screen for about 5 or 6 seconds, then it restarts into recovery on it's own. Both the ICS and GB CleanRoms do this.
skourg3 said:
It sounds like you're missing the part where you, you know, actually flash the ROM. The kernel zip and the ROM zip are separate; the kernel (normally found in PH98IMG.zip) is flashed in hboot/fastboot, the ROM (where the zip is called whatever) from recovery. It doesn't matter which order you flash them, but if you flash an ICS kernel and you try to boot before flashing the ICS ROM, for example, you'll get stuck on that white HTC screen when trying to boot.
Many ROMs have a script built in that when you flash the ROM in recovery it will create a PH98IMG.zip and automatically reboot you to the bootloader so you can flash the kernel. It is done this way because if you put the PH98IMG.zip on your sdcard and flash that first you'll have trouble getting back into recovery to flash the ROM after. The hboot won't let you select recovery with that file on the sdcard (obviously, reboot recovery from the OS/ADB still works, but if you reboot and flash the kernel first, you have no way into recovery without removing the sd card). I usually only copy the ROM to my sdcard (not the kernel) to prevent getting locked out of recovery. Go into recovery, wipe data/cache/dalvik, install zip from SD, select the ROM (not the PH98IMG.zip kernel), then reboot into the bootloader and manually fastboot flash boot boot.img. Obviously you don't have to do it that way, that's just my usual method.
Hope this helps somewhat.
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I am flashing the ROM. Most roms just put the PH98IMG then automatically take you to the bootloader to flash the kernal. I've done that, probably 10 times. Then I manually flash the kernel when required too.
Like I said, this is my 7th Android phone, 3rd of which being HTC. I've been flashing ROMs since December of 2009 when the original Droid was rooted. I'm not new to this, that's why I don't understand why I'm having such a difficult time.
I am still stuck in bootloop. I have used 4ext, twrp, and clockwork. I have tried them all and tried to flash different roms. I am a sprint evo 3d user and i have rev s-off. I am running viper rom right now. But when i do a factory reset and clear the cache data and all do all that type of stuff. I try to install the roms and it says install complete so i reboot from and let it sit a while but it never boots up and it always keeps rebooting and rebooting. Anyone help me please
Are you installing ViperROM ICS? I just installed this myself and experience boot loops. My situation may be different because I have HBOOT 1.5 and HTC unlock.
I was able to resolve this by installing the Anthrax RLS1 kernel w/ ViperROM ICS Beta3. I'm not clear on way this kernel works while others don't though.
vrsj said:
Are you installing ViperROM ICS? I just installed this myself and experience boot loops. My situation may be different because I have HBOOT 1.5 and HTC unlock.
I was able to resolve this by installing the Anthrax RLS1 kernel w/ ViperROM ICS Beta3. I'm not clear on way this kernel works while others don't though.
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RSL1 isnt ment for 3.6 ROMS. Use this one ... htcleak-stockfirmwaretest ....... RSL1 cause random reboots and non working 4G
do you guys have s off if not then this is part of the problem you need to have 4ext custom recovery installed this will solve the problem and after its installed set it up and enable smart flash and this will allow you to flash your boot.img of your are missing thats why your getting boot loops however you cant do this now what you need to do now is go to your pc or laptop boot your device into bootloader and hit the power button you should now be fastboot next you need a copy of the zip file meaning the rom you have flashed to your device on your pc what you need to do is extract that zip file and once its done extracting it will create a folder you will open that folder and scroll down until you see your boot.img and this is what you need to boot up next you will copy the boot.img into the same folder that you have your adb and fastboot drivers in next open cmd and typ what ever commands that you use to get your fastboot driver working and once that is done next you will typ fastboot flash boot boot.img and this will flash your boot.img and after this it will boot up without any bootloops enjoy
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When you flash the ROM in recovery, does take a minute or two to install, or does it just fly right through the install process?? the ROM could have a bad updater.script in it which causes the ROM not to copy to the phone.
Try a different ROM, if a different flashes, and doesn't boot loop, you know the pproblem. May I suggest "CleanRom Reborn" found at
www.scottsroms.com his roms are awesome, and the one I mentioned has a cool option called LeeDroid Tweeks. Give that a go, your problems will be over.
I was having the same problem in my S-OFF GSM Evo, flashing a new kernel(has to be done via flashing the boot.img) works but its never quite stable. I'm not entirely sure why but KingCobra3D-ICS installed just fine, I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the aroma installer so maybe try a ROM that uses aroma installer.
im having major issues here with my device it all started with me trying to flash it to cynogenmod 10 which apparantly my device has the s-on so i was stuck in the cmod boot logo, luckily i backed up my device prior to that with the stock rom and everything so i restored successfully back to my stock rom. then i was reading along some forums to see what the problem was and i came accrosss this forum "http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-s-h-boot-1-15-a.html" which gave me a few options on how to flash kernels with the right one that will work with cynogen mod, i chose option 1 because it said it is recommended which the steps were to take the rom "boot.img" file and copy it over to the android sdk platform tools folder and open up a cmd and i flashed the rom "boot.img" which according to the forum that contains the kernel that belongs with that rom i did what it ask went to fastboot mode and typed in fastboot boot boot.img, which succeeded, when i rebooted the device it boots up acting like it is trying to open up recovery mode which is twrp recovery, after that it does nothing it blacks out and a little white bar flashes on top of the screen from time to time then it turns off and reboots and do same cyckle, i attempted to go back to twrp and restore my stock rom which said it succeeded but when i rebooted it did the same thing acted like it was tryning to boot up to recovery being inforemd with those red letter about developmental purposes only stuff, so i factory rested my device wiped dalvik cache and cache and even wiped the system rom and restored my back up with stock rom and nothing works still, please help i am stuck please!!
You probably need to pull the boot.img from a stock ROM and send it via fastboot since your trying to go back to your stock backup.
thanks, but now i got the cynogen mod 10 to boot up now for some reason the touch screen does not respond to the touch neither does the capacative touch buttons work either do you have any idea what it could be?
If you have the 3.16 OTA update then you're touchscreen firmware is incompatible. If this is the case your stuck with 3.16 based roms. Cm will not work for you.
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well the 3.16 ota update is that the latest one?
Yes. If you have the 3.16 update the only way your going to get cm to work is to s-off and downgrade you're tp firmware.
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do you know were i can find these recourses on how to do this? i know that it has something to do with dirtyracun or something like that but i didnt really didnt understand their website on how to s-off and how to i downgrade my tp firmware
droidman89 said:
do you know were i can find these recourses on how to do this? i know that it has something to do with dirtyracun or something like that but i didnt really didnt understand their website on how to s-off and how to i downgrade my tp firmware
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I'll try..
First and foremost you need to go here http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?13192-RADIOS-RECOVERY-FLASHABLE-Jewel-Radio-Collection&p=220556&viewfull=1#post220556 and download the boot.img only for whatever version of the stock rom your backup is.
Put it in your sdk tools and open a command prompt and fastboot flash boot boot.img
Go to twrp recovery and WIPE cache, dalvik, factory reset, and system.
Restore your stock backup.
Reboot.
If you can get back to your stock rom, then you should read up on dirty racun or possibly facepalm to gain s-off if you want to run cm.