I tried to watch a movie on the Prime the other day while on an airplane. I could not get the volume loud enough to hear the movie over the engine noise. What do y'all use to overcome this - noise cancelling headphones, headphone amplifier, or ?? I saw this amplifier on Amazon, would it do the job?
http://www.amazon.com/Fiio-E6-Headp...WWW8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332447629&sr=8-1
I had the same issue a couple of weeks ago. I could not hear on the plane even with my noise cancelling headphones. The volume simply was not loud enough to hear movies or play games. So I downloaded a volume booster off the market and it worked much better.
Were you using a pair of headphones? It can be hard for me to hear people talking at all when sitting that close to a running jet engine. I use a pair of etymotic ear buds (great noise isolation) when I want to watch a movie in a noisy environment.
I was using the ear buds that came with my Samsung android phone. They seal pretty well and have been fine for every other environment.
Just recently went flying with my prime for the first time. Using my Sennheiser over the ear headphones, which has excellent passive noise cancellation, max volume was just 'ok' for watching movies. Next time I fly I may try an app such as Volume+ to increase the volume further. For a reference, I normally have trouble listening to music/watching movies (while on a plane) with typical ear buds.
I had a similar issue when I flew with my Prime. There was just too much engine drone that it was difficult to hear the Prime. I has a couple of pairs of noise blocking earphones with me and my Apple in-ear earbuds (don't hit me) were the only ones that allowed me to hear my movies well.
I don't think this is a flaw with the Prime though.
I mean they wouldn't want to manufacture a device that output sound to known dangerous noise levels. Apple got into some trouble with that issue with their earlier model iPods which is why they now come with a built-in sound limiter.
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I tried to watch a movie on the Prime the other day while on an airplane. I could not get the volume loud enough to hear the movie over the engine noise. What do y'all use to overcome this - noise cancelling headphones, headphone amplifier, or ?? I saw this amplifier on Amazon, would it do the job?
http://www.amazon.com/Fiio-E6-Headp...WWW8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332447629&sr=8-1
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I'm not sure this post is necessarily even Prime specific vs. listening to audio sources in general on an airplane, but the best for me is to use smaller earbud type active noise cancelling headphones (because I don't want to lug around massive Bose headphones while on a plane with a tiny carry-on). My Sennheiser CX300 earbuds, while they blocked some of the engine noise, were not good enough compared to the Audio Technica noise canceling ones I got.
Active noise canceling is ideal in environments where you have consistent ambient noise, like jet engine noise. It will actually analyze the background noise, and emit an inverse of the noise which cancels it out. It's not 100%, but based on my experience, it works better than any other headphones I've tried that are portable enough for airplane use.
Getting an amplifier is seriously going to annoy the passengers around you
Volume+ works great my friend. My speakers BLAST!
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hceuterpe said:
I'm not sure this post is necessarily even Prime specific vs. listening to audio sources in general on an airplane, but the best for me is to use smaller earbud type active noise cancelling headphones (because I don't want to lug around massive Bose headphones while on a plane with a tiny carry-on).
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It is Prime specific in as much as I can hear fine with headphones plugged into my Samsung Epic phone and my buddy said he could hear his Motorola Xoom OK on his flight.
I will give volume+ a try, and failing that maybe try an amplifier.
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It is Prime specific in as much as I can hear fine with headphones plugged into my Samsung Epic phone and my buddy said he could hear his Motorola Xoom OK on his flight.
I will give volume+ a try, and failing that maybe try an amplifier.
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I had a similar problem travelling. Tried new ear buds - still bad. A friend suggested a FiiO amplifier. It is rechargeable, volume, equaliser. Unfortunately I had not tried Volume + so I'm not sure if I was just buying an expensive (~$30) solution.
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I had a similar problem travelling. Tried new ear buds - still bad. A friend suggested a FiiO amplifier. It is rechargeable, volume, equaliser. Unfortunately I had not tried Volume + so I'm not sure if I was just buying an expensive (~$30) solution.
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Is it the same one I linked to in the OP? Did it work?
Instead of noise cancellation, look into noise isolation earbuds like Etymotics ER6i's. Been using these on various devices for over 5 years now, with fantastic success. I commute daily via train, thus enduring similar noise issues, and I actually turn my volume DOWN.
volume+ is the way to go. check the thread out in themes and apps section. its a true volume booster/amplifier. not some gloried equalizer like most on the market. just make sure to follow the apps built in instructions and follow tips from the thread. it allows you to boost external speaker, headphones, and BT headphones or speakers. I've been using for a couple months now. now my prime is so loud, I have to be asked to then it down. louder than the t.v. lmfao. plus clarity is excellent. not all muffled and you can increase the bass also.
I should have read the other thread more carefully first. After buying the app in the market, I saw you can get the full app free off the developers website.
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I use an amp on planes with my prime and a500. I mainly use it I use a splitter so me and my girl can hear it. But it also serves as a good volume booster.
But if you use one get ready to have cords everywhere. Lol
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I would like a decent bluetooth stereo headset that I can listen to music with and make and recieve calls on with this device. I've already tried the Motorla S10's and jaybird freedoms.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...38355&skuId=1326039&st=motorola s10&cp=1&lp=1
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/JayBird...8316933151&skuId=2264036&st=jaybird&cp=1&lp=4
Moto has a decent mic, but poor audio and bad signal range. However call's were serviceable.
The jaybirds have sensational audio clarity and quality (better on the iPhone though. Just sounds cleaner. dunno why?) and the bass is rich and crisp. Some of the best bud audio I've heard well...ever. Even rivals my klipsch S4i's *Only works on apple :-(*
Now for the bad. Calls are the worst I've ever expirenced! audio is muddy, the other end always complains I sound distant and traped in a far away restroom, audio cuts in and out and the volume in call is too low. Just horrid experience altogether that mares the device of its exceptional BT headphone feature.
And I would like ideally a headset with good range ~12-20ft from device. a decent battery cycle *8-12Hrs.* and has a good noise canceling mic and good audio quality for music and calls.
Does such a device exist? My budget is $80-150
Thanks in advanced.
I use the Sony mw600. Pretty decent has FM radio and connects 3 different bt devices easily.
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I use the Sony mw600. Pretty decent has FM radio and connects 3 different bt devices easily.
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Thanks for your input, I'll look into it.
I'm thinking of getting these instead.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson...W21Y/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1319387500&sr=8-9
Anyone can comment on them?
Jaybirds has been fantastic for me.
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Jaybirds has been fantastic for me.
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I just think the sound quality and the mic suck for phone calls. :-/ which is disappointing. but the sound quality for music and such is nearly on par with my beats studios, although not as clear or loud. and they almost replicate the same timber/clarity of the klipsch S4i's they replaced. (best buds I've ever owned/used/seen) though there's a little distortion at higher volume levels. and I don't feel like they get as loud as I'd like.
i'm using my Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 from 2007, great headset, no problems at all, even battery ok after 4 years of use.
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Sony Ericsson Bluetooth devices are awesome. I have been using the hbh ds205 for years this is my second one my wife put the first one through the wash it still worked but the battery didn't hold a charge after that.
Anyways the great thing about it is you can use it for anything and use any headphones you want with it. I use my sennheiser ie7's.
It has all the controls...play pause volume up down skip track answer calls. Battery last like 8-10 hours of continuous playback.
I clip it on my shirt and work all day long with it. Clip it on my jacket and listen to tunes while I'm riding my motorcycle. Get in my car plug it in to the auxiliary cable, samething at home. Just got a portable speaker for cell phones so I can plug it into that and listen wirelessly. That's why its so great it makes everything wireless.
I don't think they make this model anymore but there is new versions. I'm gonna upgrade sometime because this little device is so awesome.
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Thanks for the feedback. funny thing is my jay birds worked flawlessly today, no distortion and no call issues... only thing I did different was calibrate my battery on the phone and flash the updated matted blues theme for serendipity.... strange.
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I use the Sony mw600. Pretty decent has FM radio and connects 3 different bt devices easily.
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I just ordered these I will let you know how they are when I get them.
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I just ordered these I will let you know how they are when I get them.
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I appreciate that and await your feedback. I'm planning to rock the jaybirds for a bit before I switch to something else. Hope to hear back from you soon.
I'm heavily leaning toward...
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson...W21Y/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1319387500&sr=8-9
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I just ordered these I will let you know how they are when I get them.
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Will also vouch for the MW600
Work great with my NUFORCE earphones!
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I appreciate that and await your feedback. I'm planning to rock the jaybirds for a bit before I switch to something else. Hope to hear back from you soon.
I'm heavily leaning toward...
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson...W21Y/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1319387500&sr=8-9
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it's on sale today for $60 if you go straight through J&R.
http://www.jr.com/sony-ericsson/pe/...are&SiteID=lw9MynSeamY-89XmBak/az52Ew9Taw0m0A
In terms of Voice Call Quality, the Plantronics 903+ are top notch. I also have the Jaybird Freedoms (best sound quality IMHO) as well as the Sony Ericsson MW600 which I like for the ability to plug in any Headphones I wish. I haven't heard many issues with the MW600 for the audio quality though.
I was told that the Jaybirds has a bit of a tinny sound when I talk on the phone though, bit of a downside (granted after my workout at the gym, I can't seem to find them, not too happy about that.) The Jaybirds battery life will not be the best in any way shape or form, you do pull off about 5 hours, which isn't bad, but nothing like the MW600 which get up to 11 hours.
The MW600 is not the best for working out in my opinion, no sealed ports and not water resistant/sweat resistant. The Plantronics 903+ isn't sweat resistant either contrary to what you read online, but it is durable. I have shorted out 6 pairs with the amount of sweat I have when working out. I even have shorted out a Motorola S9 which is supposed to be sweat resistant as well. Just my $0.02 take them as you wish.
Alucardis666 said:
I would like a decent bluetooth stereo headset that I can listen to music with and make and recieve calls on with this device. I've already tried the Motorla S10's and jaybird freedoms.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...38355&skuId=1326039&st=motorola s10&cp=1&lp=1
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/JayBird...8316933151&skuId=2264036&st=jaybird&cp=1&lp=4
Moto has a decent mic, but poor audio and bad signal range. However call's were serviceable.
The jaybirds have sensational audio clarity and quality (better on the iPhone though. Just sounds cleaner. dunno why?) and the bass is rich and crisp. Some of the best bud audio I've heard well...ever. Even rivals my klipsch S4i's *Only works on apple :-(*
Now for the bad. Calls are the worst I've ever expirenced! audio is muddy, the other end always complains I sound distant and traped in a far away restroom, audio cuts in and out and the volume in call is too low. Just horrid experience altogether that mares the device of its exceptional BT headphone feature.
And I would like ideally a headset with good range ~12-20ft from device. a decent battery cycle *8-12Hrs.* and has a good noise canceling mic and good audio quality for music and calls.
Does such a device exist? My budget is $80-150
Thanks in advanced.
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naturefreak85 said:
In terms of Voice Call Quality, the Plantronics 903+ are top notch. I also have the Jaybird Freedoms (best sound quality IMHO) as well as the Sony Ericsson MW600 which I like for the ability to plug in any Headphones I wish. I haven't heard many issues with the MW600 for the audio quality though.
I was told that the Jaybirds has a bit of a tinny sound when I talk on the phone though, bit of a downside (granted after my workout at the gym, I can't seem to find them, not too happy about that.) The Jaybirds battery life will not be the best in any way shape or form, you do pull off about 5 hours, which isn't bad, but nothing like the MW600 which get up to 11 hours.
The MW600 is not the best for working out in my opinion, no sealed ports and not water resistant/sweat resistant. The Plantronics 903+ isn't sweat resistant either contrary to what you read online, but it is durable. I have shorted out 6 pairs with the amount of sweat I have when working out. I even have shorted out a Motorola S9 which is supposed to be sweat resistant as well. Just my $0.02 take them as you wish.
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Thanks for the feedback!
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Jaybirds has been fantastic for me.
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I have had the same experience with the JayBirds as the OP. Good bluetooth speakers... horrible call quality. People couldn't understand me, complaining that I was muffled. I took them back after 2 days.
I am also looking for a good set of stereo bluetooth headphones, to use both in the car and the gym, and will be following this thread closely.
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Anytime. I have been playing more with the MW600. In the end, there is no "perfect" bluetooth headphones for everything. When I'm at work I use my MW600, and when I am biking/working out I use my Jaybirds.
My MW600's came today and I was able to get a quick 20 mile ride in with them. So here is a quick review.
My first impression was wow is this thing small. With out headphones the unit is about 2.5 inches long and about .5 wide. The clip is not the greatest but seemed to hold on tight enough.
The headphones that came with it just looking at them I would say they are not the greatest design. The are not the "Standard" Y design with the plug on the bottom and the L & R ear buds at the top. Instead the plug and L ear bud are on the top and the R ear bud the bottom. This makes the L ear bud rather short. Tossed them right away.
Pairing could not have been easier. Pretty much standard Turn the unit on, Turn on BT on the phone tell it to look for devices and then pair it up. After pairing I turned the headset off for a hour and then turned it back on and it did pair right up again so no problems there.
The Unit
The controls will take a bit of getting use to. Pretty much anywhere you touch it you are going to be touching a control surface. Looking at the headset with the LED screen facing you and headphones on top the volume is on the left, ff, play/pause, and rw are on the left. On the top of the front face is the call button with a mic right above it and at the bottom above the Micro USB port is the power.
The volume will take a bit to get use to as well. it is not a physical button but a touch surface that is not all that sensitive (in the end I think this is a good thing.) you turn it up or down by running your finger over the surface in the direction that you want it to go. To go to full volume or min volume it takes a couple of swipes of your finger or you can press and hold at the top or bottom to up and down.
FF, Play/Pause, and RW seem to work fine and it is not a problem to use them.
I have not had a chance to place or get a call yet so can not speak to how well the call button works or the sound quality. I will post as soon as I get a chance to use the headset for a call.
Sound Quality.
I did not test the headphones that came with it so I can not speak to them. I used a pair of headphones that came with my Captivate (could not find my better Skulls at the time.) I would not say that the sound was out of this world but it was pretty good for using a pair of headphones that came with a phone. Did not get any distortion at the level that I had it, no popping not hissing. Would not say that the sound was deep and rich but it was good.
The Extra's
One of the nice things about this unit is that you can use use a high end set of headphones with out a mic because the unit has a mic built in. So if you have a really good set of headphone I would use them.
FM Radio worked good. was able to pull in the radio station that I listen to all the time and it came in very clear. To the FM radio you hold down the play/pause button until 2 little icons display on the LED then use the play/pause button again to select what you want. I did not try it but I do not think that you can listen to the radio and the use the headset for calls at the same time.
Over all I like the headset it has good sound and with a good set of headphones I think it will be even better. Pairing could not be any easier and once paired held the pairing very well. I did not get any interruptions when I went over bumps that I did get with other BT headsets. I do not think that working out with the headset will be a issue seeing that it is clipped to the outside of my shirt I would have to get a REALLY good sweat going to for it to affect the unit but seeing as it is 45 degrees here right now the proof will have to wait until I get in the gym.
At this point the only con I have is the controls. Like I said it is really hard to handle the unit with out touching one of the controls (Most often volume) but again I think that it is pretty much a matter of time before I "learn" how to handle it with out touching something.
On a scale of 1-10 I would give the headset a solid 8
If you can still find them, Homer HHS1220 I believe was the BEST bang for the buck a few years ago. Legitimate 12 hour battery and pretty comfy to wear.
Alucardis666 said:
I would like a decent bluetooth stereo headset that I can listen to music with and make and recieve calls on with this device. I've already tried the Motorla S10's and jaybird freedoms.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...38355&skuId=1326039&st=motorola s10&cp=1&lp=1
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/JayBird...8316933151&skuId=2264036&st=jaybird&cp=1&lp=4
Moto has a decent mic, but poor audio and bad signal range. However call's were serviceable.
The jaybirds have sensational audio clarity and quality (better on the iPhone though. Just sounds cleaner. dunno why?) and the bass is rich and crisp. Some of the best bud audio I've heard well...ever. Even rivals my klipsch S4i's *Only works on apple :-(*
Now for the bad. Calls are the worst I've ever expirenced! audio is muddy, the other end always complains I sound distant and traped in a far away restroom, audio cuts in and out and the volume in call is too low. Just horrid experience altogether that mares the device of its exceptional BT headphone feature.
And I would like ideally a headset with good range ~12-20ft from device. a decent battery cycle *8-12Hrs.* and has a good noise canceling mic and good audio quality for music and calls.
Does such a device exist? My budget is $80-150
Thanks in advanced.
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I bought the Phiaton PS 20 BT stereo headset ($125 at Newegg) about a month ago. The sound quality is great, on both music and calls. Distance, to me, is impressive. Built-in battery charges via USB, and battery life has been good for me.
The microphone is the only thing that's a bit finicky. Some people tell me that it sounds like I'm on a wired headset. Others tell me it sounds like I'm in a tunnel. The problem boils down to what shirt I'm wearing! If I have button-down shirt or a breast pocket, then it's easy to dial the mic in for great sound. But if I'm wearing a t-shirt ... forget it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875969002
I should receive my prime this week but I'm wondering about sound quality.
My music library is in lossless and i have a damn good pair of headphones (monster turbine copper. Not the shady beasts by monster) I'm also using Poweramp.
Should i expect excellent sound or you guys experienced disappointing result with your tablet
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I don't know how many audiophiles we have here on the Prime forums, I haven't seen a lot of discussion over sound quality aside from people mentioning that the Prime's speaker sounds pretty good for videos, and discussion around the fact that both of the Prime's speakers are on the same side.
I have never had an issue with sound quality, but take that with a grain of salt since iPod ear buds also sound fine to me
Yes, the speakers are great. As for the headphone port, its pretty much just a headphone port. If you like your ear buds, you'll be fine. I've got Klipsch earbuds and Bose headphones. Absolutely no problems and there shouldn't be. Also, your app should have equalizers for adjusting.
Headphones seem cheaply made.
Why no volume buttons?
Why not use standard 3.5mm?
Did Sony assigned only one part time intern to design the headphones?
Are they not standard 3.5mm phones? Anyway, they seem at least as good to me as the phone Apple bundles with their products.
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They are standard 3.5mm unless you don't have a Z Ultra.
Sony produce some of the best ear buds out there and these are no exception. Crystal clear and pumps out the bass.
If the standard length of cord supplied with the headphones is too long for you to reach your phone volume control, cut it.
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Headphones seem cheaply made.
Why no volume buttons?
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Why no volume buttons? Those aren't standard. The only thing that truly is standard in a stereo headphone jack is the top/ring/sleeve design with 3 contacts and the 3.5mm size. The headphones that have volume buttons and/or action buttons use a non-standard additional contact, and devices which aren't designed with the non-standard headphones in mind can't even make use of the extra buttons, even if they may support other functionality with extra contacts. For example, my Galaxy Nexus can understand the action button on Apple earbuds, because it was made to expect that sort of functionality on the jack's extra contact, but it cannot understand the other volume buttons on the headphones as they are non-standard.
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Why no volume buttons? Those aren't standard. The only thing that truly is standard in a stereo headphone jack is the top/ring/sleeve design with 3 contacts and the 3.5mm size. The headphones that have volume buttons and/or action buttons use a non-standard additional contact, and devices which aren't designed with the non-standard headphones in mind can't even make use of the extra buttons, even if they may support other functionality with extra contacts. For example, my Galaxy Nexus can understand the action button on Apple earbuds, because it was made to expect that sort of functionality on the jack's extra contact, but it cannot understand the other volume buttons on the headphones as they are non-standard.
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Actually using urbeats earpieces designed for HTC phone and it recognize the forward/backward buttons for volume up/down as well as the play and stop button that with a double push go to next track. Sony only put basic earpieces as all manufacturer, having volume on it or not does nothing to the quality. Never found basic earpieces giving a good quality, so nothing to cry about it.
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knite75 said:
Headphones seem cheaply made.
Why no volume buttons?
Why not use standard 3.5mm?
Did Sony assigned only one part time intern to design the headphones?
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I have just purchased the Samsung galaxy Note 3. I mention that to illustrate I am not biased to one brand.
In terms of sound reproduction, Sony are class leaders, they invented the 'Portable sound' technology. No standard headphones due justice to any of the branded phones they are sold with.
Sony head phones are the best available as an 'in the box' headphone BUT can be vastly improved on. Apple are amazingly among the worst?
I have a preference for Sennheiser and you can make a choice that suits your own ears.
If you don't like Sony sound reproduction I have no idea what to advise you? Oh and no in the box phones come with volume controls uless its a special offer.
Tell you what. I will exchange your Sony headphones for an unused pair of Samsung galaxy note headphones.:good:
What have you been using 'till this point? What brand of phone and have you tried other brands of headphone such as Sennheiser?
Regards.
I'm no audiophile (at all!), but i wouldn't say they're bad. I've noticed that thay aren't exactly pumping the bass like other more expensive ear plugs, but i personally think that the audio alone is fairly good. It's clean and it hits most tones, but again.. the bass is just not there. An EQ will quickly fix this though (yeah, i've tested it). If you're listening a lot to dance, trance, techno, dubstep, hip hop etc. then these won't cut it. If you listen to music with a lot of different instruments, then they'll be more suitable.
Again, i'm not an audiophile so these are just my personal thoughts.
The sony ones sound better than anything that I have that were "free". for free head phones they are good.
Ryland Johnson said:
I have just purchased the Samsung galaxy Note 3. I mention that to illustrate I am not biased to one brand.
In terms of sound reproduction, Sony are class leaders, they invented the 'Portable sound' technology. No standard headphones due justice to any of the branded phones they are sold with.
Sony head phones are the best available as an 'in the box' headphone BUT can be vastly improved on. Apple are amazingly among the worst?
I have a preference for Sennheiser and you can make a choice that suits your own ears.
If you don't like Sony sound reproduction I have no idea what to advise you? Oh and no in the box phones come with volume controls uless its a special offer.
Tell you what. I will exchange your Sony headphones for an unused pair of Samsung galaxy note headphones.:good:
What have you been using 'till this point? What brand of phone and have you tried other brands of headphone such as Sennheiser?
Regards.
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OP seems to complain the things that comes with the bundle without comparing what other phones have to offer.
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The sony ones sound better than anything that I have that were "free". for free head phones they are good.
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"sounding better" is personal preference anyway. no point to clarify with OP on the matter but yes, as for the headphone that don't look like a cheap earbuds, it's one of the good one in quality for it's range
LordManhattan said:
I'm no audiophile (at all!), but i wouldn't say they're bad. I've noticed that thay aren't exactly pumping the bass like other more expensive ear plugs, but i personally think that the audio alone is fairly good. It's clean and it hits most tones, but again.. the bass is just not there. An EQ will quickly fix this though (yeah, i've tested it). If you're listening a lot to dance, trance, techno, dubstep, hip hop etc. then these won't cut it. If you listen to music with a lot of different instruments, then they'll be more suitable.
Again, i'm not an audiophile so these are just my personal thoughts.
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Really? I remember thinking they were too bass-heavy. Granted, I only used them while I was watching a movie, not actually listening to music, so maybe I need to give them another shot. However, I remember thinking they definitely sounded heavier in the bass than my XBA BT75 earbuds I normally use for music listening, which sound flatter and clearer to my ears.
EDIT: Yes, these stock Sony earbuds are definitely more bottom-heavy than my other ones. If anything, these need a bass cut, because they're bordering on being muddy. On the whole, they have a pretty obvious "smiley face" response, unsurprisingly. Lots of bass, and the high frequencies have been boosted as well--cymbals, for instance, are a little too "sizzly" for me.
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Really? I remember thinking they were too bass-heavy. Granted, I only used them while I was watching a movie, not actually listening to music, so maybe I need to give them another shot. However, I remember thinking they definitely sounded heavier in the bass than my XBA BT75 earbuds I normally use for music listening, which sound flatter and clearer to my ears.
EDIT: Yes, these stock Sony earbuds are definitely more bottom-heavy than my other ones. If anything, these need a bass cut, because they're bordering on being muddy. On the whole, they have a pretty obvious "smiley face" response, unsurprisingly. Lots of bass, and the high frequencies have been boosted as well--cymbals, for instance, are a little too "sizzly" for me.
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Mine are the opposite. There are barely any bass. I'll do some research.
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seems like more incentive to invest in some good headphones or buy the SBH52
Head phones-ear buds. A quick explanation.
I will try and make this brief and simple. Head phones-ear buds can only produce or reproduce the sound that they are connected to, the source. Headphones come in various types, in ear, (the type that come with the mobile), open head phones (the sound they reproduce can be heard by others in the room) and closed back (in theory only the wearer can hear the sound.
Next, The source, in terms of Sony devices, is class leading especially at this price point. Standard in the box ear buds are there as part of the package, they do not faithfully reproduce what the source produces. Non of them.
Frequency response. This is the level of bass to the level of treble each head phone is rated. Examples Sennheiser CX300-11 in ear. Frequency response;19-2100Hz. Sennheiser CX400-11, 17-22,000Hz. Translated this means the CX400 will be able to reproduce deeper bass tones and higher treble tones thus the midrange should be as clear as a bell.
Please remember what in ear buds use as a bass chamber is part our outer and part inner in, as far as the timpani goes, the 'eardrum', If we use a very high volume ,especially with in ear buds, damage can and is done to our ear drum and hearing. With this in mind such an ear bud MUST be used with caution. As soon as we connect an ear phone to a Sony device the volume is automatically reduced to ensure we don't damage the ear.
Now, we have the source, in our case the mobile phone, and the reproduction, the ear bud. What will also count to the overall quality of reproduction are the connections. The plug the cable also the quality of the components used in the manufacture of the ear bud or head phone.
It is false economy and rather unwise to use the in box freebies. Spend between 40.00€ and 50.00€ and one can purchase an ear bud or on ear open or closed head phone that will knock your socks of. Is it worth it? This is a question of how you use your device. I use it first as a mobile phone, secondly as a way to send and receive SMS and thirdly to listen to music, with this in mind I purchase branded head phones and branded ear buds.
A brilliant starter for in ear buds is the Sennheiser CX300-11. For a portable open ear head phone I use the Sennheiser PX100-11. Both are industry leaders.
let me quickly add there is no such thing as 'the best', its choice, its what type of sound each of us prefers. I use Sennheiser as I enjoy the type of sound they produce and for the price involved I find them exceptional, there are numerous other brands to chose from.
DO NOT go and purchase any sort of ear bud or head phone costing hundreds of euros as the source will not provide the FR for the head phones to reproduce. One has to evaluate with care how to match ones device between source and speaker.
I hope this small missive may help some members who enjoy music.
Kind regards.
Thank you for a quality post, Johnson (yes, I'll keep calling you that). Say, what would you recommend to a person who listens a lot to bass filled music?
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LordManhattan said:
Thank you for a quality post, Johnson (yes, I'll keep calling you that). Say, what would you recommend to a person who listens a lot to bass filled music?
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Sennheiser CX400-11. FR: 17-22000Hz for ear buds, and the Sennheiser PX100-11. FR: 15-27000Hz for open back on head ear phones (they are portable as they fold up).
I am not to fond of in ear buds even though I always carry a pair, I use the CX300-11.
For general use and a simply stunning sound with bass to rattle your teeth, I use the PX100-11. They come in white or black.
Remember its the source that will count and with the Sony Walkman being utilised NOT the Google play, the sound is clear, well balanced, deep and very well controlled. Mid range is simply spectacular. I enjoy a very wide cross section of music from classical to pop to what ever.
Again I must add that there is nothing 'wrong' with using a graphic equaliser. I don't as I enjoy the music as it was recorded BUT if you enjoy that extra bass then go for it. Do remember when you deepen the bass using a graphic equaliser you alter the stage sound as a whole. No problem if you enjoy a bass heavy sound.
The good point is you have a very high quality source with the Sony. As such I sincerely believe the device deserves a fitting head phone or ear bud.
let us know what you purchase.
Oh and don't forget top allow the ear bud or head phone to 'run in' for 48 hours before you make an assessment. That is very important.
Regards.
AntiLazarus said:
Are they not standard 3.5mm phones? Anyway, they seem at least as good to me as the phone Apple bundles with their products.
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Same here
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How would you rate the Z2 active noise cancelling?
Would be my ONE buying argument.
Thx
G.
gue22 said:
How would you rate the Z2 active noise cancelling?
Would be my ONE buying argument.
Thx
G.
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10 points on a scale of 10.At work a loud machine is producing a monotonous noise,this is reduced to approx. 10 % of its original level by the active noise cancelling without music on,only insert the earbuds and switching on the phone kills 90 % of this noise.After you switch on the music you can barely hear the monotonous noise.Only one of many reasons to buy this fantastic device.
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10 points on a scale of 10.At work a loud machine is producing a monotonous noise,this is reduced to approx. 10 % of its original level by the active noise cancelling without music on,only insert the earbuds and switching on the phone kills 90 % of this noise.After you switch on the music you can barely hear the monotonous noise.Only one of many reasons to buy this fantastic device.
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Thanks a ton!
Does anyone have comparative experience with the Bose Quiet Comfort 3 (on ear) or 20i (in ear)?
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Thanks a ton!
Does anyone have comparative experience with the Bose Quiet Comfort 3 (on ear) or 20i (in ear)?
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Noise cancelling works with supplied earbuds MDR-NC31EM,two microphones in the earbuds feed the noise cancelling software in the Z2,
I don't know if there are more headphones available working with this system,the 3.5 mm jack should have 5 instead of the standard 3 rings.
With my Sennheiser MM100 bluetooth on-ear headset the Z2 sounds great,only without the noise cancelling.
I've tested it on my office with AC and at home with centrifuge in the other room (washing machine).
Unfortunately, I can't say I'm impressed with the results. Need more testing tomorrow...
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I'd give the active noise cancelling a 9 out of 10 when paired with the Sony MDR-NC31EM headphones. With the volume turned up to a normal level I can't hear myself typing on my keyboard, or doing the dishes, or my cat meowing for treats, or my wife talking, or pretty much anything other than my music unless I reeeally listen for it. The sound quality of the NC31EM isn't the best, but it's far from the worst. It's definitely better than any headphones that came with previous cell phones. Before I got my Z2 I refused to use noise cancelling because I thought it unnecessarily tampered with the sound quality and would only wear my Grado 325, Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10, or Shure SE530 headphones. The Z2 & NC31EM is a very good combo for most listening occasions.
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Does anyone have comparative experience with the Bose Quiet Comfort 3 (on ear) or 20i (in ear)?
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I have QC15, which is similar to QC3. I haven't had a chance to test them side by side on a plane after purchasing of this phone.
However, in day-to-day life, z2 and QC15 produce similar results as far as I can tell. To be honest this is the only reason why I thought about buying Z2 and switching to android from an iPhone.
I first thought tgis thread is about the microphone noise cancelling when I call someone
For me both work just fine.
The headphones are small and cant perform like a bose but for those small earbuds I give them a 9 of 10.
They cant cancel (completely) the noise of train or a loud street but for music it works fine
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Noise cancelling works with supplied earbuds MDR-NC31EM,two microphones in the earbuds feed the noise cancelling software in the Z2,
I don't know if there are more headphones available working with this system,the 3.5 mm jack should have 5 instead of the standard 3 rings.
With my Sennheiser MM100 bluetooth on-ear headset the Z2 sounds great,only without the noise cancelling.
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Before release I read that one would have to buy the MDR-NC31EM (a fourth contact on the 3.5 mm jack for the second mic) as an extra, but I guess competitive pressure made them appear out of the box! <g>
Don´t know of any other special headset like that.
Think Sony spilled the marketing beans on this feature. Almost no reviews mentioned this unique feature, and when they did, then practically only in passing.
Anyone who has a commute on public transport should check out active noise cancelling headphones! I love ´em. Filter out ambient noise and loud people with idiotic conversations. <yippih!>
jeremy.shi said:
I have QC15, which is similar to QC3. I haven't had a chance to test them side by side on a plane after purchasing of this phone.
However, in day-to-day life, z2 and QC15 produce similar results as far as I can tell. To be honest this is the only reason why I thought about buying Z2 and switching to android from an iPhone.
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I´ve been owning the QC3 for almost two years and they are great.
I was a bit p*ssed when the cable developed a problem after a little more than half a year, but when I hit the right guy at the local Saturn / Mediamarkt here they swapped it without a tone. (The incompetent one before told me we´d need to return the whole gadget set and my answer was: "No, you will have to pry the QC3 from my cold, dead fingers. I rather buy a cable at whatever Bose price!" And you know that´s quite a statement! <rofl>)
For this summer I bought QC20i and was awed that the in-ears cancel out more than the on-ears!!!!! I only hope the cabling lasts longer than that of the IE2 I owned before!
So Sony lost out for now, but I may "need" another Android gadget soon. Who knows... <g>
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I first thought tgis thread is about the microphone noise cancelling when I call someone
For me both work just fine.
The headphones are small and cant perform like a bose but for those small earbuds I give them a 9 of 10.
They cant cancel (completely) the noise of train or a loud street but for music it works fine
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Actually - as said above - the Bose QC20i in-ears cancel out a lot more than the QC3 on-ear ones with the passive dampening advantage. And the QC3 sound a bit murky while the QC20i got brilliant heights even WITH active noise cancelling -- which is said to hamper quality.
And they QC20i work w/o NC with a dead battery. Well, they oughta, cuz you can´t swap the battery. The teeny tiny spare battery for the QC20 was 50 bucks!
So the jury is out again who will be the next winner.
Guess the QC20 will earn their keep as double-duty ear warmers for winter.
The QC20i for the rest of the time for ALL mobile gadgets.
The Z2 waiting in the wings as a possible replacement for the iPhone. (Watch out, Apple!)
Or the next gen with Bluetooth AND active noise cancelling.
Having fun
G.
Problem is I don't get any noise cancellation. For example, now I hear crickets. Putting earphones in my ears and having phone detect and use NC, nothing has really changed. I've tried both NC modes (one with music sign and one without)... turned on youtube video, still nothing. The only benefit is from earphones actually being in my ears, but the same effect I get with regular $40 earbuds like QuadBeat 2.
I wish if I could somehow test if there is maybe a problem with my earbuds, but so far - effect is nonexistent.
I never owned any noise cancelling headphones before the Sony MDR-NC31EM so i can't compare.
They don't cancel out every small noise. So if i am home and there it is relatively quiet i don't notice much difference when enabling the noise cancellation on the z2.
However if the TV is running, driving by train etc. the difference is huge. It can still be heard but it is not annoying anymore when hearing music.
at work with some normal monotone cooling sound from PCs the noise is also nearly completely reduced.
I am not sure but i think the noise cancellation does not work very good for a higher pitch noise. So maybe your crickets do make a too high pitch.
Also one thing i once noticed was when the train door closed with a very loud bang i got a loud crack sound on my headphones which was not really great and really frightened me in that moment. I guess that was just too loud and suddenly to cancel out.
I would say for the price it is a definitive 10/10 if you own the Z2. But i am not sure if more expensive headphones can cancel more.
Using it with my notebook however does not work as it seems it cancels the played sound out again.
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Problem is I don't get any noise cancellation. For example, now I hear crickets. Putting earphones in my ears and having phone detect and use NC, nothing has really changed. I've tried both NC modes (one with music sign and one without)... turned on youtube video, still nothing. The only benefit is from earphones actually being in my ears, but the same effect I get with regular $40 earbuds like QuadBeat 2.
I wish if I could somehow test if there is maybe a problem with my earbuds, but so far - effect is nonexistent.
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If you don´t immediately hear the difference on a plane or train or tram there is something wrong.
Crickets are not exactly the best example. Low frequency continuous street noise is it, not the single car.
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However if the TV is running, driving by train etc. the difference is huge. It can still be heard but it is not annoying anymore when hearing music.
at work with some normal monotone cooling sound from PCs the noise is also nearly completely reduced.
I am not sure but i think the noise cancellation does not work very good for a higher pitch noise. So maybe your crickets do make a too high pitch.
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I would say for the price it is a definitive 10/10 if you own the Z2. But i am not sure if more expensive headphones can cancel more.
Using it with my notebook however does not work as it seems it cancels the played sound out again.
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TV is a still better use case than anything else. If I don´t want to be distracted by some series my girl friend watches I put on the Bose, turn on music and turn away from the TV -- and I got my island.
Guess it would take a lot more processing power to catch the higher frequencies and the higher I guess they are harder to match and cancel out.
Interestingly the in-ear QC20i dampen most, but I don´t think they dampen (much) more than what I heard from a very brief test with the Sonys.
What goes for the Bose QC20i is the above use case: Hook ´em up to anything / the notebook and cancel out the anything else / TV. You can´t do that with the Z2 buds.
But the QC20 are almost half the price of a Z2.
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But the QC20 are almost half the price of a Z2.
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Thats not true.
At least here in Germany if i look up the QC20 they cost 279 € !!! compared to 38 € of the Sony headphones.
Ohh i see you meant the Z2 itself. Sorry. I was talking only about the headphones supported for the Z2. Of course the phone itself is more expensive.
So far I had no result with:
- air conditioner
- crickets
- street noise (typical city noise coming from the outside, I don't expect it to cancel police/ambulance, but noise certainly)
- friend's PC cooling (my PC is silent under 30dB)
- blue switch mechanical keyboard typing
- coffee shop
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what else to test?
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So far I had no result with:
- air conditioner
- crickets
- street noise (typical city noise coming from the outside, I don't expect it to cancel police/ambulance, but noise certainly)
- friend's PC cooling (my PC is silent under 30dB)
- blue switch mechanical keyboard typing
- coffee shop
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Are you sure you have the noise cancelling headphones with the Model-Name "MDR-NC31E" ?
Because there where headphones in my package. But they didn't supported noise cancellation and had a different model name.
beowulf6 said:
Are you sure you have the noise cancelling headphones with the Model-Name "MDR-NC31E" ?
Because there where headphones in my package. But they didn't supported noise cancellation and had a different model name.
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I hope I don't look that dumb... :cyclops: - yes, of course, MDR-NC31E. Even the phone auto puts those in "noise cancelling headset" mode. There are two icons then (3). ON, ON with ♪ next to it and OFF.
Check this, not even this is reduced. Not a tiny bit. http://www.coffitivity.com/
Strange? Disappointing...
Using N6P for the last few days, N6P sound output from the headphone jack is poor, it gets loud but quality is lacking, N6P doesn’t even have the power to drive high efficiency headphones (high sensitivity (dbl/mW or dbl/W) and low impedance (ohms)), I listen on my Triple Fi 10 headphones (Input Sensitivity - 117dB/mW; Impedance - 32 ohms) and the sound quality is disappointing.
I am coming from N6, N6 has very good sound quality from the headphone jack, N6 has the power to drive my Triple Fi 10 and doesn’t need an Amp.
PhoneArena measured the N6 at .98 volts and the 6P is .34 volts, for comparison IP6+ is 1.014 volts
See below comments from Head-fi forum about the poor sound quality:
“The 6P's sound is extremely forward and punchy, but has a real digital grittiness to it. Almost like running through a preamp with the gain wound up too far, with a weird high mid resonance that eventually becomes fatiguing. The weird grit sort of reminds me of my motherboard's onboard Realtek sound, from circa mid-2000s. It feels like the frequency response is not flat at all, I'm expecting tests to show a big peak around high mids to low treble. It's kind of like listening on cheap earbuds.”
http://www.head-fi.org/t/785067/nexus-5x-and-6p-sound-quality/30
I hate to return N6P as I love the phone otherwise, but sound quality is very important to me as I listen to music a lot.
The 6p has so many strong points, wouldn't it be worth using a headphone amp instead of returning the entire thing? Obviously that won't solve audio quality, but investing in an iPod or a walkman isn't too bad when your then able to use IMO the best android phone of 2015...
Get high quality Bluetooth headset. I have jaybird x2 and sounds beautiful connected.
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The 6p has so many strong points, wouldn't it be worth using a headphone amp instead of returning the entire thing? Obviously that won't solve audio quality, but investing in an iPod or a walkman isn't too bad when your then able to use IMO the best android phone of 2015...
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Must listen to this guy.
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I couldn't tell you the last time I plugged in headphones... No to wires!
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Only use them on airplanes!
im very happy with my Nexus 6P and headphone jack sound quality with my vmoda headphones. I use poweramp to listen to music and used one of the apps preset equalizers, sound quality is great to me, I've also used it during phones calls and it sounds just fine.
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Get high quality Bluetooth headset. I have jaybird x2 and sounds beautiful connected.
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I couldn't tell you the last time I plugged in headphones... No to wires!
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Bluetooth is not there yet in terms of music quality, I have tried and returned 10 -12 bluetooth headphones in the last year including Jay bird x, they are no match to the good quality wired headsets like my Triple Fi 10, you won’t get any sound stage on Bluetooth headphones.
Sony’s new high resolution Bluetooth headphones are promising but it needs LDAC codec support on the phone, also these headphones are expensive at $399.
I wonder if someday we will see a pair of cans sporting USB-C with an inline Digital to Analog converter. There would be many benefits to this really. I could see a trackpad that supports gestures or scrobbling, etc.
I understand that as for high end audiophile one can spend thousands in the pursuit of audio bliss. But as for my common daily use my 6P with Viper and my JayBird X and Bose sounds is just fine:good::good::good:
Get poweramp and apply these settings.
People still use those headphone jacks? Hmmm... Interesting
anglerstock said:
Get poweramp and apply these settings.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but software enhancements mostly ruins music experience, I prefer to listen the music the way musician intended to..
I used poweramp but prefer Neutron - the best music player on Android..
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People still use those headphone jacks? Hmmm... Interesting
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yes...only if you listen to real music..and have a discerning ears..
droidguy22 said:
yes...only if you listen to real music..and have a discerning ears..
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Real music you say? Lol so those with discerning ears don't use Bluetooth? #snobbery
If you wish to listen to music "as musicians intended" then you can only get inside their collective heads to hear it. Everything else is influenced and changed by acoustics, recording, engineering and production.
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The 6p has so many strong points, wouldn't it be worth using a headphone amp instead of returning the entire thing? Obviously that won't solve audio quality, but investing in an iPod or a walkman isn't too bad when your then able to use IMO the best android phone of 2015...
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agree that 6p has many strong points, but amp defeats the portability, a premium phone ($700 - 128gb with tax) in 2015 should give a decent sound quality, what's the point of 128gb storage if it can't output decent sound.
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If you wish to listen to music "as musicians intended" then you can only get inside their collective heads to hear it. Everything else is influenced and changed by acoustics, recording, engineering and production.
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the way you described is not possible, that's why you want to buy a device with better DAC and use good quality headphones and you can be as close as possible to the musicians intent..
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Real music you say? Lol so those with discerning ears don't use Bluetooth? #snobbery
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you are not so bright, are you?
Why Bluetooth Audio Used To (and Still Largely) Sucks:
The problem with Bluetooth audio has always been digital compression: in order to send your audio to your headphones, you were forced to sacrifice quality. Traditionally, especially on older devices and with older Bluetooth versions, this meant the sound was so badly compressed that the result sounded robotic, buzzy, noisy, and all around awful. Listening to podcasts and spoken word through them wasn't a big deal, but when it came to music, they were just the worst. You got none of the richness or warmth of sound that a pair of wired headphones offers.
if you're the type who really enjoys listening—and I mean actively listening—to music on high-quality headphones, and you use terms like "soundstage" and "frequency response" to judge one pair of headphones over another, you may be disappointed, especially when you compare your wireless listening experience to a wired one.
http://lifehacker.com/does-bluetooth-audio-still-suck-1505063323
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the way you described is not possible, that's why you want to buy a device with better DAC and use good quality headphones and you can be as close as possible to the musicians intent..
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My comment was not a flame. The difference is that I see all this as impossible for the very reasons I gave. Perhaps Steve Albini can make this clearer: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep05/articles/albini.htm