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I made a USB dongle that plugs into the USB port on the touchpad and provides a powered female USB-A port. It is basically a portable USB charger/battery with an OTG cable soldered to the USB port. Attached is a quick pdf showing the process. It's much smaller and more portable than using a y-cable and powered hub or battery pack.
The charger is $13 on Amazon with free prime shipping and OTG cables around $2 on ebay.
It's nice because it's small and I can secure it to the my case with a rubber band, providing a quick connection to a keyboard/mouse or usb flash drive. The particular charger charges via any powered USB port with a provided cable.
This is the battery pack I ordered, note the picture on the amazon page is not 100% accurate:
http://www.amazon.com/T-Mobile-Port..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1325984238&sr=1-1
This is the cable I purchased, there are cheaper ones, but they ship from China:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...ccessories&hash=item1e69fbb3c5#ht_1336wt_1398
Would that be powerful enough to power external portable hard drive like WD Passport?
gedas5 said:
Would that be powerful enough to power external portable hard drive like WD Passport?
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Unfortunately, I don't have the power specs on the battery pack. If I come across a USB-powered hard drive, I'll test it.
scarletwahoo said:
I made a USB dongle that plugs into the USB port on the touchpad and provides a powered female USB-A port. It is basically a portable USB charger/battery with an OTG cable soldered to the USB port. Attached is a quick pdf showing the process. It's much smaller and more portable than using a y-cable and powered hub or battery pack.
The charger is $13 on Amazon with free prime shipping and OTG cables around $2 on ebay.
It's nice because it's small and I can secure it to the my case with a rubber band, providing a quick connection to a keyboard/mouse or usb flash drive. The particular charger charges via any powered USB port with a provided cable.
This is the battery pack I ordered, note the picture on the amazon page is not 100% accurate:
http://www.amazon.com/T-Mobile-Port..._1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1325984238&sr=1-1
This is the cable I purchased, there are cheaper ones, but they ship from China:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-O...ccessories&hash=item1e69fbb3c5#ht_1336wt_1398
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that looks nice.. but you re saying that its plug and play?..
you dont have to mount/unmount?
why didnt you get one w/ more usb ports?
your pics are clear.
i wonder how easy it is to do the battery hub like yours but w/ 4 usb ports
Nicely done, very good solution and tutorial. again excellent!!!!
amkaos said:
that looks nice.. but you re saying that its plug and play?..
you dont have to mount/unmount?
why didnt you get one w/ more usb ports?
your pics are clear.
i wonder how easy it is to do the battery hub like yours but w/ 4 usb ports
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http://www.amazon.com/Solar-Powered-Battery-Charger-Adapter/dp/B006DVMW92
This hub has 4 ports, a battery plus solar charging. That said, if I buy it I'll probably just plug it directly into the OTG cable rather than solder them together. Then again my soldering can be a little rough.
- Sent from a Prime terminal using a friends account
So can we only use the Micro Usb OTG host to connect to a USB drive/keyboard?
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So can we only use the Micro Usb OTG host to connect to a USB drive/keyboard?
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yes plus 10char
Deserves sticky, love mods like this even if not always practical.
Cant believe they didnt give the touchpad a powered usb host. I guess they figured people would have issues with not enough power or drain the battery too quick with it.
So I think when I have some spare time I may mod your mod and show how to make a powered usb host that plugs into the wall charger so when your "docking" somewhere to charge you can hook up a keyboard and use it without restriction and even be charging the touchpad at the same time.
Probably don't even need to be too creative a proper Y cable may do the trick out the gate. Just to track one down.
Probably a stupid question, but it wouldn't be my first one...
Could you simply use a USB male-to-male cable to go between the battery pack and the OTG cable? Eliminate the soldering that way?
Or am I missing something?
I found a cable that I think will work perfectly for my idea of doing this from the charger instead of from battery: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/usb-fe...gb-tf-card-card-reader-kit-for-xtc-clip-82289
You can do it much cheaper with adapters and a regular y adapter though, and you may want to do so, so that you can have a longer cable from the charger to the y split, but yeah I will try this out sometime soon and let you know how it works.
The charger probably gives enough power to easily run things like a external HDD and such while the battery pack may not.
@Vicious ... couldn't that possibly put too much power to a USB device? Just saying since it is probably meant to be hooked up to a regular USB 5v port and (I don't know the specifics but) the touchpad USB power adapter has a high AMP output (might be talking sht here).
Nothing to worry about a device only "pulls" the amperage it needs so you can have extra with no harm to the device. It is the voltage that needs to match and usb is standard 5v.
Having too little amperage can actually cause a device harm due to malfunction, like a head crashing on a 2.5" hdd during use or a thumb drive failing to flash properly corrupting a sector.
I feel anybody that uses the touchpad in a docked setting that wants to use a keyboard may very well make use of my idea, that I of course got from the OP's idea.
I'll part it out for the cheapest way to make it without any cutting/soldering and test it soon enough.
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@Vicious ... couldn't that possibly put too much power to a USB device? Just saying since it is probably meant to be hooked up to a regular USB 5v port and (I don't know the specifics but) the touchpad USB power adapter has a high AMP output (might be talking sht here).
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That cable will work fine. I wasn't doing anything special, only eliminating the y-cable. I mainly wanted a small form factor way of adding a USB port to my case for portability. Now I can put a movie on a usb drive and watch it on the go.
You generally don't have to worry about using a supply that is to powerful. As long as the voltage output is 5 V, the device will only draw a certain current and consume the corresponding amount of power. The rating on a constant voltage supply is simply the maximum current it can provide, the amount it provides depends on the properties of the device.
Say you have a device, it states it operates at 5 V and draws 100 mA of current. That means the impedance of the device is R = V / I = 50 ohms. So if you use a 5 V supply rated to at least 100 mA, the device will only draw 100 mA. The supply can be rated for 100 mA or 1000 amps, it does not matter. (Although you wouldn't want to use 1000 A source as if something breaks or shorts it can draw a higher current)
Wikipedia "ohms law" if you are not familiar.
I tried to do this but can't get it to work, the touchpad shows the charging battery icon only it's not charging, and running dmesg it say source=charger mA=100 and usb otg exited low power mode and then right after says it entered low power mode... Not sure what the issue is...
edit: I'm thinking it may be my soldering work, gonna give it another pass...
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I tried to do this but can't get it to work, the touchpad shows the charging battery icon only it's not charging, and running dmesg it say source=charger mA=100 and usb otg exited low power mode and then right after says it entered low power mode... Not sure what the issue is...
edit: I'm thinking it may be my soldering work, gonna give it another pass...
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You may have the two data pins shorted together. To the best of my knowledge, this tells the touchpad to go into charging mode. The touchpad charger does this, because in order to charge, it must draw more power than USB ports are designed to provide.
You need to remove the two resistors circled in the PDF. These keep the data pins shorted together as well.
This is a really great idea I think I might try it and your tut is very well explained thanks for taking the time out to put it all together
Thanks
Mouse works fine, keyboard hasn't been tried yet. How do you access a flash drive through this? What are the steps?
If you just cut out the resistors in the battery hub, could you just use the TP's regular cable to plug into one of the ports on the hub?
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Mouse works fine, keyboard hasn't been tried yet. How do you access a flash drive through this? What are the steps?
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Stick mount works great
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NOTE: If you have an OFF BRAND Controller ALL BETS ARE OFF. THIS WORKS, BUT ONLY WITH THE SONY BRANDED CONTROLLER
Is this weird, or has support for it crept in in the last few ICS Builds and I missed it? I am not much of a gamer, not by any standard, but I was impressed when I saw video of Games like Riptide and Shadowgun with a PS3 controller.
Only limitation was, they had it cabled and not wireless, but then everything I read while researching said I would need to be rooted and use Sixaxis from the Market if I wanted to pair it wirelessly. I took that at face value and moved on. THEN...
Tried my sones wired Xbox 360 controller, and it worked, mostly... Wanted a better experience and my own controller so tried 3 different off branded controllers, one was a Madcatz (Xbox360) and that worked a little, but not great, then tried 2 others one was a Power A or something like that, forget what the other was. Neither worked at all, Nothing...
So I gave in and got a nice, Bluer, Sony Branded DualShock 3 controller. Used a USB to Mini-USB cable I had laying around, and hooked 'er up. Played Riptide. Wee. Tried Shadowgun.. cool for about 90 seconds... Then I got frustrated when it wasn't easy enough for a 5 year old to play... like I said, not much for gaming. I like racing games quite a bit, and tried Need For Speed Hot Pursuit.. WHEE EE EE!!! kay, enough of that... Then I grabbed an N64 Emulator (actually a few, N64oid, SNESDroid and SuperGNES. Loaded up some old favorites. DiddyKong Racing. Super Smash Bros. etc.
Then I saw it, I was on the .13 build for the last few weeks, no major issues, just generally crappy battery life. But when I was testing some router settings for better throughput, when I went to turn on Bluetooth... whoa... Why does it show PLAYSTATION(R) 3 Controller among my BT devices? Figured it was a tease, no way I had a wireless connection without root.
But no, I went an got the controller, and as soon as I pressed the center button, like a SPLIT SECOND later, that entry went straight to the top of the list, and showed... CONNECTED. ???
Go to a game, and it was soon obvious. It just works. And works amazingly well. I suggest ANYONE that has a Sony Branded PS3 controller, and has not tried it repeat my steps... Just so we can prove this is not a fluke... Oh, and I flashed .14 today, and it still works... I don't care what changed, I am thrilled.
I may even become a serious Gamer! anyone for a real Gamers Hard Core game.. like, uh... what Angry Birds or somethin'?
Thanks. I can't wait to try this when I get home.
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Thanks. I can't wait to try this when I get home.
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Yep. I hope it works as well for yo as it did for me.. Just cable it and play for a while first... The weirdest part? I never attempted to attch it via Bluetooth. Never even tried!
Heres another guy saying it works, but claims it works even with Bluetooth off (It doesn't - I HAD to try that, knhowing it was BS, but flipped BT back on an all good )
You can use a wireless Xbox controller with almost anything if you have the USB wireless microsoft receiver. I tried it today with SNESoid & N64oid. I am also not rooted and it works without any special app.
I thought it was common knowledge that you could connect a PS3 controller wirelessly without root if you had the dock, I'm pretty sure you can do it with the original TF too.
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I thought it was common knowledge that you could connect a PS3 controller wirelessly without root if you had the dock, I'm pretty sure you can do it with the original TF too.
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News to me. I had the TF101. And you needed it cabled to use a controller - Also, why on earth would you need the DOCK to connect WIRELESSLY? The only thing it ADDS is a USB port (And SD card which is meaningless) For that matter you can get the USB adapter that goes in the charging port to cable the controller to the Prime, if you can find one - I have one from my TF101 - Here is THE video used to demonstrate the PS3 Controller in use with Prime:
You sir are a genius...awesome!
@smarta$sphone. i may be wrong and sorry off i am but how did you have a USB to mini USB on the prime? where would the USB go? and the mini end would not fit either only micro but still confused because ps3 controller does not take USB takes that odd shaped crimped port... please advice?
And whoever said the controller will work wirelessly with dock? don't that defeat the purpose of wireless or is it to connect dock first to device to be able to use the controller wirelessly? sorry don't understand thanks
or you talking about plugging USB into the dock to begin with?
I know it works wireless (the controller) with the Sony Tablet S.
iletone2 said:
@smarta$sphone. i may be wrong and sorry off i am but how did you have a USB to mini USB on the prime? where would the USB go? and the mini end would not fit either only micro but still confused because ps3 controller does not take USB takes that odd shaped crimped port... please advice?
And whoever said the controller will work wirelessly with dock? don't that defeat the purpose of wireless or is it to connect dock first to device to be able to use the controller wirelessly? sorry don't understand thanks
or you talking about plugging USB into the dock to begin with?
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That "crimped port" is one of the most common smaller charge/data ports for older mobile tech and other things...
It's miniUSB. Just uses any ol' miniUSB to USB cable, and the dock has a USB port which is needed to sync the controller to the Prime...
I don't understand your mini/micro USB comment there, so no real comment on it...
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Right! I should have said it more clearly. Like the next poster says, you have to have the dock (or that adapter) to have a USB port on the Prime; all the tablet has is its proprietary charge/data port.
thanks
gotcha, lol didn't know that the crimped style was USB... so if i got that connection to a mini USB it will plug directly into the tablet or would i need mini to micro USB? worth four all the questions thanks btw
does the tablet have a mini or micro USB port?
You need either Asus Adapter or dock for USB
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@smarta$sphone. i may be wrong and sorry off i am but how did you have a USB to mini USB on the prime? where would the USB go? and the mini end would not fit either only micro but still confused because ps3 controller does not take USB takes that odd shaped crimped port... please advice?
And whoever said the controller will work wirelessly with dock? don't that defeat the purpose of wireless or is it to connect dock first to device to be able to use the controller wirelessly? sorry don't understand thanks
or you talking about plugging USB into the dock to begin with?
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Yes, sorry for any confusion. I initially plugged the Dualshock 3 into the dock via a standard USB to Mini-USB cable. I also have the USB adapter that fits in the Tablets charging port, but I rarely use it - Once as an experiment I plugged the adapter into the charging port on the dock, hoping it would provide a second USB port. Logically it could have worked, but that was not the case.
You asked who said the controller would work wirelessly with the dock? Uhmmm Post #5 in THIS THREAD, the one directly before my comment, that I QUOTED in the comment?
And what ARE YOU talking about? No offense, but that "Odd shaped Crimped Port" is a MINI USB... Very common, and was used on more devices, phones, cheap cameras tablets etc, for a while until Micro USB took it's place for thinness. Look up "Mini-USB" in Google, then hit "Images" Very common...
iletone2 said:
gotcha, lol didn't know that the crimped style was USB... so if i got that connection to a mini USB it will plug directly into the tablet or would i need mini to micro USB? worth four all the questions thanks btw
does the tablet have a mini or micro USB port?
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The Tablet has NEITHER... The tablet ONLY has a proprietary charging port, but you can add THIS ADAPTER if you do not have the Dock. The adapter and the dock provide full sized USB, so you cable wood be USB (Full sized) to Mini (For the controller) Obviously you do not have a Prime, so why ask all of this?
Adapter here:
http://www.excaliberpc.com/607966/asus-external-usb-adapter-for.html
huh
don't have a prime because i don't understand the ports? lol so anyways what is the port under the volume? i bought mine at office depot February 11 i got it in the mail
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don't have a prime because i don't understand the ports? lol so anyways what is the port under the volume? i bought mine at office depot February 11 i got it in the mail
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Doesn't it ship with a booklet? Bought it and haven't checked out the official site or any specs?
It's your microHDMI port to have audio/video out to HDTV's and receivers.
sorry that was a typo..i meant micro HDMI not micro USB my bad... sorry for confusion and when i said something about post 5 i know who wrote it but was just talking about it in same thread was not directed directly at you but in general..
so aside from my confusing posts what i wanted to know is if they make mini usb to micro hdmi.. but i will Google it since i seem to be bothering folks.
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sorry that was a typo..i meant micro HDMI not micro USB my bad... sorry for confusion and when i said something about post 5 i know who wrote it but was just talking about it in same thread was not directed directly at you but in general..
so aside from my confusing posts what i wanted to know is if they make mini usb to micro hdmi.. but i will Google it since i seem to be bothering folks.
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Even if they did make that cable it would be quite useless with the prime. The tablet itself has no USB controller onboard. The adapter and the dock both have a USB host controller which allows the tablet to communicate with USB devices. HDMI is High Definition Media Interface, its not for hooking up I/O peripherals other than a monitor of some type.
iletone2 said:
sorry that was a typo..i meant micro HDMI not micro USB my bad... sorry for confusion and when i said something about post 5 i know who wrote it but was just talking about it in same thread was not directed directly at you but in general..
so aside from my confusing posts what i wanted to know is if they make mini usb to micro hdmi.. but i will Google it since i seem to be bothering folks.
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You're not bothering me lol It's hard to convey certain tones over the web I suppose.
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Even if they did make that cable it would be quite useless with the prime. The tablet itself has no USB controller onboard. The adapter and the dock both have a USB host controller which allows the tablet to communicate with USB devices. HDMI is High Definition Media Interface, its not for hooking up I/O peripherals other than a monitor of some type.
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Right!
Your (micro)HDMI is just audio/video, like more compact (and digital) old RCA cables.
The only way to transfer data over a hard line with the Prime (just the tablet, no keyboard dock) is through it's 40-pin proprietary port: be that through it's charging cable to a computer, or the linked adapter to some other USB device.
Keyboard dock needed?
Sorry I'm an idiot, but do you have to have a keyboard dock to user PS3 wireless controller?
Have someone tried connecting two PS3 controllers at the same time? One with bluetooth and the other one trough the USB connector. Would have been nice if you can play co-op games on the SNES. (Contra!)
Anyone tried to fit the Amaze 4G on a lapdock? Can't find any posts via search
Those Lapdocks (eg Atrix Lapdock) go on sale for ~$50, basically a display, keyboard, battery and trackpad.
Below is someone's hack for raspberry pi on the lapdock.... since amaze 4G has HDMI out, only thing to do is to see if we can get the cables to fit properly, and the USB functionality(keyboard+trackpad) to work, and the software
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/21/3105822/motorola-lapdock-hacked-raspberry-pi-rikomagic
So I did a bit of digging...
The Amaze uses a MHL connector (see wiki) which allows for access to HDMI and USB over one connector. The lapdocks seem to have two connectors to plug into the Motorola phones. It doesn't seem like a big issue to replace the cable from the lapdock with a MHL one that you could probably buy off ebay.
Double check which pin corresponds to which wires on the MHL and also on the USB and HDMI cable from the lapdock, cut the wires, re solder, heat shrink, close the lapdock back up....profit???
That's as far as I can tell regarding connecting the hardware the phone. I'm willing to bet that the HDMI will output directly to the screen fine without any software adjustment. But I'm unsure about the keyboard and trackpad.
Thoughts?
I'd be willing to give this a try if there's interest.
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So I did a bit of digging...
The Amaze uses a MHL connector (see wiki) which allows for access to HDMI and USB over one connector. The lapdocks seem to have two connectors to plug into the Motorola phones. It doesn't seem like a big issue to replace the cable from the lapdock with a MHL one that you could probably buy off ebay.
Double check which pin corresponds to which wires on the MHL and also on the USB and HDMI cable from the lapdock, cut the wires, re solder, heat shrink, close the lapdock back up....profit???
That's as far as I can tell regarding connecting the hardware the phone. I'm willing to bet that the HDMI will output directly to the screen fine without any software adjustment. But I'm unsure about the keyboard and trackpad.
Thoughts?
I'd be willing to give this a try if there's interest.
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from looking at the raspberry pi and other stuff(laptop/wii connected to the hdmi port), you'll get a "mirrored" display... the keyboard/trackpad depends on the usb connection/driver/OTG Kernel, dunno about that
Youll need
Lapdock: $20-$60 (i'd suggest getting the atrix/bionic versions, not the motorola 500 one)
http://www.all4cellular.com/product/motorola-atrix-4g-laptop-dock-hdmi-upgrade-kit.html
http://slickdeals.net/f/5035746-Lapdock-ATRIX-4G-60-and-Droid-Bionic-90
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29994146&postcount=16
MHL connector for HDMI: $10-$35
Official http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Adaptor-Jetstream-Tablets-Package/dp/B005LSOPN4
Unofficial, may need USB cable for power http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
->I can't get any clear indication that the USB data from phone passes through to the USB connector on the MHL adapter
maybe some HDMI cables/connector (HDMI male from MHL connector to miniHDMI female on the lapdock)
I have a tablet and a netbook too, so don't think I'll be attempting this for now
the 35Whr battery(from googling), people say it can charge your phone a couple of times over(your phone's battery is 4Volts*2AmpHr = 8Whr)
I'll see if I can find a cheap one here in Canada.
It's a rather interesting concept.
It kinda reminds me of this.http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
Definitely interested in this, would be cool to have this setup.
Live and Die on this day....
went to a radioshack nearby, they didn't have it..
bascially, i would only get one if its around $20 (since you can charge phone with it, $20 for a large battery is worth it, though not for the laptop form factor)
The only docks I can get my hands on are $50+ from ebay. This idea is such a niche product...I'm trying to think of a time where this could be useful.
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The only docks I can get my hands on are $50+ from ebay. This idea is such a niche product...I'm trying to think of a time where this could be useful.
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commute on a train/bus, could watch video on a larger screen while charging your battery
if we had the software to support it as well (like the ubuntu-phone posted earlier or webtop options), could compose email or edit code on the go...
Isn't that why we have laptops?
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Isn't that why we have laptops?
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if you want to spend more than $200, a laptop
if you want just one device that has everything loaded, and customizable(via the lapdock), maybe a netbook or this lapdock
i guess that's why the Atrix Lapdocks are selling at a discount... the manufacturers couldn't find a good way to advertise this expensive device (MSRP is $300 or so)
it's available for $40 on bensoutlet
http://slickdeals.net/f/5501414-AT-T-Motorola-11-6-Lapdock-40-FS
http://bensoutlet.com/products/lapdock-atrix
1% in stock left...
I got one, will play with it
We don't have hdmi
I took the dock section apart n tried to plug in my amaze to the built in hdmi but no go with netflix. I'll try something else and report back.
Living life in reverse....
chozyn said:
I took the dock section apart n tried to plug in my amaze to the built in hdmi but no go with netflix. I'll try something else and report back.
Living life in reverse....
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amandez said:
We don't have hdmi
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yes we do, via the ExtMicro / MHL port
http://androidforums.com/htc-amaze-4g/500285-clearing-air-mhl-hdmi-adapters-amaze.html
I heard that the Amaze 4G is picky about which MHL cable it accepts, and the kernel/android build on it must support HDMI out
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I was under the impression that Note 3 supported MHL 2.0 but when I plug in the official HDTV adapter from Samsung (model number ET-H10FAUWEGWW) I still need to also use a USB charger to get it to show through the HDMI input on my TV?
If I don't I get a continual on-screen message on the phone "HDMI cable connected/disconnected" flashing/cycling until I plug-in the Micro USB charger cable on the side of the HDTV adapter.
Any thoughts appreciated
Your TV would have to have the MHL adapter which would mean you would have had to buy it most likely this year. If you are just plugging it into a regular HDMI slot there is not power available this is why you need to hook up the adapter.
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Your TV would have to have the MHL adapter which would mean you would have had to buy it most likely this year. If you are just plugging it into a regular HDMI slot there is not power available this is why you need to hook up the adapter.
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Thanks, didn't see that anywhere in the small print or YouTube reviews. Looks like I need a new tv, lol.
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optical10 said:
I was under the impression that Note 3 supported MHL 2.0 but when I plug in the official HDTV adapter from Samsung (model number ET-H10FAUWEGWW) I still need to also use a USB charger to get it to show through the HDMI input on my TV?
If I don't I get a continual on-screen message on the phone "HDMI cable connected/disconnected" flashing/cycling until I plug-in the Micro USB charger cable on the side of the HDTV adapter.
Any thoughts appreciated
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
optical10 said:
Thanks, didn't see that anywhere in the small print or YouTube reviews. Looks like I need a new tv, lol.
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You definitely do not need an MHL input when using this adapter. The whole point of the adapter is to go from MHL (the Note 3 output) to HDMI (the TV input). If you have an MHL input on your TV or receiver all you need is a cable (basically what's in the white box is built into your TV already).
I second the opinion that you got a knock-off. I have both adapters from Samsung and neither of them need external power to operate with a Note 3.
The only restriction with the MHL 2.0 adapter is that it requires that you plug it into a TV and not a receiver, and it will tell you in no uncertain terms if you don't plug it in correctly.
The only reason to plug in power is that it stops your battery draining so fast, the charger provides about 700mA charging current to the N3.
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I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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Could you post a link to the seller you got yours from, or PM me with the info if XDA doesn't allow that? I'd like to get one myself, and like that you have already tried and had good results with yours.
toddnbrown said:
Could you post a link to the seller you got yours from, or PM me with the info if XDA doesn't allow that? I'd like to get one myself, and like that you have already tried and had good results with yours.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-H10FAUWESTA
toddnbrown said:
Could you post a link to the seller you got yours from, or PM me with the info if XDA doesn't allow that? I'd like to get one myself, and like that you have already tried and had good results with yours.
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Here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/VicTsing-Micr...e=UTF8&qid=1384305065&sr=8-4&keywords=mhl+2.0
Fair warning though; this adapter is not perfect by any means, you can read my review on amazon (the one that tested it out on the note 3). As noted in my review, I am still waiting on a replacement one (since the original one I got functioned but didn't charge when I hooked up my power adapter), and I'll let you guys know if it's better once I receive it. Even though it doesn't function perfectly, for $10 dollars it does the trick.
Edit: They are sending me an extra without having to return the original, so even if the second one doesn't charge, at $5 a pop I'm happy.
babyshanks said:
I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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Thanks for alerting me to the counterfeit reasoning that shows this part must be a copycat, I contacted the supplier of this part to us for a partial refund as I will use this as a backup and try and buy an original and prices drop from the £39 or take advice of the other replies in this thread and find a genuine 2.0 MHL non-Samsung version. I'll report back if I have any trouble with the supplier claiming that it is a genuine part and see how far eBay support me.
babyshanks said:
I believe you may have ended up getting a copycat adapter (A 1.0 instead of a 2.0), not official. I recently purchased a MHL 2.0 off amazon for $10 and it works just plugging in the tv hdmi without power. The one I got isn't a samsung one, but it is compatible with samsungs (11-pin I believe). The tv I'm plugging into is an OLD tv (got it when hdmi was just coming out) and it works without using an external source- also working fine on my newer tvs. I believe the power for MHL 2.0 is suppose to come from your phone so the tv shouldn't be the problem.
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CraigAmey said:
You definitely do not need an MHL input when using this adapter. The whole point of the adapter is to go from MHL (the Note 3 output) to HDMI (the TV input). If you have an MHL input on your TV or receiver all you need is a cable (basically what's in the white box is built into your TV already).
I second the opinion that you got a knock-off. I have both adapters from Samsung and neither of them need external power to operate with a Note 3.
The only restriction with the MHL 2.0 adapter is that it requires that you plug it into a TV and not a receiver, and it will tell you in no uncertain terms if you don't plug it in correctly.
The only reason to plug in power is that it stops your battery draining so fast, the charger provides about 700mA charging current to the N3.
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Thanks babyshanks and CraigAmey for clarifying and also confirming that I don't need it new TV to take advantage of MHL 2.0's not requirement for external USB power. As I said in my previous reply and with this information and going back to the supplier on eBay to us for a partial refund as I will keep this version of the adapter until prices come down from the genuine parts for fine art genuine MHL 2.0 adapter non-Samsung version.
CraigAmey said:
You definitely do not need an MHL input when using this adapter. The whole point of the adapter is to go from MHL (the Note 3 output) to HDMI (the TV input). If you have an MHL input on your TV or receiver all you need is a cable (basically what's in the white box is built into your TV already).
I second the opinion that you got a knock-off. I have both adapters from Samsung and neither of them need external power to operate with a Note 3.
The only restriction with the MHL 2.0 adapter is that it requires that you plug it into a TV and not a receiver, and it will tell you in no uncertain terms if you don't plug it in correctly.
The only reason to plug in power is that it stops your battery draining so fast, the charger provides about 700mA charging current to the N3.
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I've read that you need to plug into a TV but haven't had problems. But I am using a samsung mhl 1.0 with 11pin adapter. Didn't need power also. Waiting for Samsung to get on the ball so I can buy a genuine mhl 2 from them.
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I bought the Samsung one before it went out of stock and it works in any HDMI input also without the need to plug it to the power outlet, but I'm sure a full HD movie will drain the battery fast..
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I think for the price of the official one your better off just getting a wireless dongle, unless you plan to game with it.
Hi guys, here's the response from the eBay seller, "These items were purchased From Kondor Ltd who are one of the major UK Distributors of Samsung Accessories. I would be extremely surprised if they sold fake stock and risked losing there multi-million contract with Samsung over some cheap fake stock. I can only assume the item received has a manufacturing fault of some sort as this is the first problem we have encountered for this product sorry.", so as you can imagine I'm beginning to think there my be a fault with my phone if this message is to be believed, what do you guys think?
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@rbiter said:
I've read that you need to plug into a TV but haven't had problems. But I am using a samsung mhl 1.0 with 11pin adapter. Didn't need power also. Waiting for Samsung to get on the ball so I can buy a genuine mhl 2 from them.
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The MHL 1.0 adapter doesn't care what it's plugged into, only the MHL 2.0 adapter has that issue.
I just bought a mhl cable through amazon. It has the USB connector for the phone on one side, and a HDMI connector on the other. Directly attached to the HDMI connector is a regular USB plug which I plugged into my power source for my phone (as this is how I understood it should work).
I don't get any messages on my phone that indicate that it is connected to my TV/Monitor and my phone also doesn't indicate that it's charging.
What I read from the product description was, that connecting this cable to my power source would also charge the phone. So could it be my phone is charging, even if the battery indicator doesn't say so? Like it would be charging just so much as that my phone doesn't drain? Or should it clearly indicate that the battery gets charged. Befor knowing this, I'm hestitant to send the cable back as defective.
Can any one advise?
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I just bought a mhl cable through amazon. It has the USB connector for the phone on one side, and a HDMI connector on the other. Directly attached to the HDMI connector is a regular USB plug which I plugged into my power source for my phone (as this is how I understood it should work).
I don't get any messages on my phone that indicate that it is connected to my TV/Monitor and my phone also doesn't indicate that it's charging.
What I read from the product description was, that connecting this cable to my power source would also charge the phone. So could it be my phone is charging, even if the battery indicator doesn't say so? Like it would be charging just so much as that my phone doesn't drain? Or should it clearly indicate that the battery gets charged. Befor knowing this, I'm hestitant to send the cable back as defective.
Can any one advise?
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The phone should indicate it is charging as it normally would.
NZtechfreak said:
The phone should indicate it is charging as it normally would.
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Thanks. I really appreciate your straight answer
I'll be sending the cable back. I wouldn't bother too much if it wouldn't supply the full resolution and such, but I'd at least would expect some output on my TV.
Mikegrmn said:
Thanks. I really appreciate your straight answer
I'll be sending the cable back. I wouldn't bother too much if it wouldn't supply the full resolution and such, but I'd at least would expect some output on my TV.
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You're welcome.
I love using MHL, but I really wish there weren't several varieties of MHL cables (5-pin, 11-pin, 1.0 and 2.0) and also such a large number of fakes and very low quality ones out there. Makes buying difficult, as all these threads about MHL demonstrate.
Does anyone know if you can physical see whether you have a 5 pin or 11 pin MHL 2.0?
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Looked around but I can't find anything definite. Is there a usb-c dock that works with the Razer phone 2 that will mirror the screen via HDMI and supports USB for a keyboard and mouse? I want to use the Sentio desktop app and have this optional setup for short trips. I have been reading that the Lumina dock may work or the HP Elite X3 dock. Any thoughts or experience with this?
Dell WD15 docks work. I'm in IT and we have these at work. Plugged up a projector with the dock and it worked. I also tried a usb c da200 Dell adapter. It works too, just doesn't provide power.
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Dell WD15 docks work. I'm in IT and we have these at work. Plugged up a projector with the dock and it worked. I also tried a usb c da200 Dell adapter. It works too, just doesn't provide power.
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Awesome!! Thank you!!
This got me wondering, so I took the same set up I have for my Nintendo Switch. Much to my surprise, it worked.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DYHJYDW/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_CllWDbAWEPC3F
That's the adapter I used. Charging and the USB worked.
I tested this device with the Microsoft Display Dock and it does work and even provides power.
Louis P said:
I tested this device with the Microsoft Display Dock and it does work and even provides power.
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Which Microsoft Display Dock did you mean? I searched Amazon and got a bunch of results. Just wanted to make sure I order the right one. And thank you for your response!!
this YCCTEAM USB-C multiport adaptor works
https://www.amazon.ca/Adapter-Ninte...child=1&keywords=YAEYE&qid=1594149954&sr=8-11
Someone posted the US equivalent, I'm from Canada. I saw it said YCCTEAM on the product so why not give it a shot. Tested it out with a BlackBerry Key2 and the Razer Phone 2, charging, USB and HDMI work for this unit.
Tried it with Sentio Desktop and it works great.