So the Xperia S doesn't have an SD Card slot, but the storage is still classed as the SD Card, this being the biggest space on the device (the 28GBish space)
Now my question is: is there going to be any difference between this and the 2GB internal storage for apps?
Apps can still be stored on both, but obviously as only MTP is allowed, from my testing it doesn't seem like there are any differences with having them on the so called "SD Card" storage area.
The only benefit I can think of is that you could fill the phone up with phone only apps in the 2GB space and have all your "app 2 sd" apps in the SD space
Could there be performance issues or other issues I'm just overlooking?
I think internal storage is like hard drive in your PC. 1 harddrive, which is splitted into 4 partitions, usually C:/ for windows (here android), D:/ for swap file (here dalvik), E:/ media files (here internal storage).
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I did do a search for this but the only thread I found was for the original Galaxy S and I wanted to check that the answer was the same for the S II.
I currently have no SD card installed in my phone, but obviously have GBs of free space in the internal 'USB storage' partition. If I try and move any installed apps to SD I just get an error about 'not enough memory'. This makes sense because presumably the OS is looking for an actual proper external SD card to be installed and there isn't one, hence the 'not enough memory' error. What I'd like to do though is use the internal 'USB storage' partition instead of an external SD card, is it possible to get the OS to use that partitition instead? I've done a bit of Googling and the answer seems to be no but I thought I'd check with the experts here before I give up entirely. If the answer is no then that's pretty disappointing because it means that the 11.5 GB in the internal USB storage is near useless to me.
I've noticed that some applications will use the internal storage exactly as they used the proper SD storage on my old Desire. For example, Kindle, Airport Mania, Gameloft games and others will install their data files on the internal storage by default; so it seems odd that you can't force other apps to do the same, thereby meaning you'd need the 11.5GB internal storage and a physical SD card to get the most out of the phone.
Hi i currently have the 16gb sgs3, and ive installed a few hd games aswell as other stuff and my internal storange is almost full, i cant seem to find any option that will allow me to get extra space back on the internal storage. all my personal files pictures etc are on the external 16gb sd card i have, is there a way around do make external sd the default storage location for all data?
Check out Directory Bind (search XDA, not the play store). It let's you mount folders meaning that you can show the contents of your sd card in a sub folder of the internal memory. That way you can move your game folders to the external sdcard card and they are still shown as if they are still where they used to be. The game won't notice the difference and you safe some internal storage space.
More information here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27493839
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Hello everyone,
Whats is the difference between device memory and USB storage?
As far as i see all the apps installed on the Device memory and all the photos and other files are located on the USB storage.
I had "insufficient storage available" problem which I fixed by uninstalling apps and that cleared some space on "Device memory" which has only p1.97GB of space, and on the other hand "USB storage" has 11.50GB of sace.
Is there a way to install apps on the USB storage?
I tried apps2SD but i see its only for external SD card.
Thanks in advance.
Device memory is for your apps and system etc. Usb memory is the mass storage for all your pics and music and for whatever else your apps might need space for.
They are basically partitions and as far as I know, there is no (safe) way to change them.
Btw apps2sd is for moving apply data to an external memory card.
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Device Memory is referring to the ~2GB system storage partition on the device, which is part of the total 16GB of internal storage. Another ~12GB is taken up by what's being referred to as USB Storage, and refers to another partition of the 16GB of internal storage. If you have an SD card, that'll be referred to as the External SD Card.
Your system storage ("Device Memory") is located at root /
USB Storage is located at /sdcard
If you have an SD card in your device, it'll be located at /emmc/
Please do note though that these locations may/probably do change between ROMs, and I only know for certain that these correct within CyanogenMod 9.
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screamworks said:
Device Memory is referring to the ~2GB system storage partition on the device, which is part of the total 16GB of internal storage. Another ~12GB is taken up by what's being referred to as USB Storage, and refers to another partition of the 16GB of internal storage. If you have an SD card, that'll be referred to as the External SD Card.
Your system storage ("Device Memory") is located at root /
USB Storage is located at /sdcard
If you have an SD card in your device, it'll be located at /emmc/
Please do note though that these locations may/probably do change between ROMs, and I only know for certain that these correct within CyanogenMod 9.
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Just FYI, external SD at /emmc is for AOSP/AOKP ROMs.
For Sammy stock ROMs, external SD will be at /mnt/sdcard/external_sd. (This is Samsung's brilliance. Not sure why they did this...)
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Just FYI, external SD at /emmc is for AOSP/AOKP ROMs.
For Sammy stock ROMs, external SD will be at /mnt/sdcard/external_sd. (This is Samsung's brilliance. Not sure why they did this...)
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Ah, thanks for that! If I'd given it more thought, I probably would have figured that out. But alas, brain is obviously not functioning. Cheers.
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Rizur said:
Device memory is for your apps and system etc. Usb memory is the mass storage for all your pics and music and for whatever else your apps might need space for.
They are basically partitions and as far as I know, there is no (safe) way to change them.
Btw apps2sd is for moving apply data to an external memory card.
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Why is it that when I take the option to move some apps that can be moved from device storage to USB storage I don't see the used space going any higher? please check out this image for an example. the figures don't seem to add up with the used figure against the apps with the ticks that have been moved to USB storage.
I still can't find an answer to issue raised here. How can I use USB storage instead of device memory?
Hi all!
I have recently brought an 16GB External SD card for my SGSII, to store my Titanium Backups. I found the external_sd folder in the internal sd card, and thought that it was the External SD card, so i placed all my backups there. But just recently it seems like i have run out of space on the phone, so i can't update some of my apps. I started deleting a lot of photos and videos from my phone and cleared 2.5GB, but i still can't update some of my apps. I began looking through my folders, and noticed that i also have an External SD card partition on my phone. The same one i see when the phone is connected to the pc. In it i can see a Clockwork Recovery folder containing my ROM backups. So i began wondering if the external_sd folder is actually located on the phone and not in the External SD card. Can anyone confirm this?
Also, when i open the Storage (i think that's what it's called) section in the settings on CM10, and noticed that i have 2 Internal Storage sections, one of them has only App data, and the other has photos, apps, music etc. and a SD Card section, with 6.64GB storage left. Does anyone know why is there is 2 Internal Storage sections?
Thank you in advance!
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As far as I know the "external_sd" is your removable external SD card. For some inexplicable reason it mounts as a sub-directory from the internal SD card, but it is definitely your removable external SD card.
I have a feeling that Jellybean brings a change and the external SD card mounts in a different way to ICS. I had only a brief experience of this when I played with the leaked ROM but I have reverted to ICS because of battery drain problems.
Your internal memory is partitioned with about 500MB for the system ROM, and 2GB reserved for app installations. Once this fills to around 85-90% you'll begin hitting problems with insufficient storage space errors. If you move apps to SD then this will make use of the data partition of your internal memory (about 12GB available to user on a 16GB device).
I'm running JB (Rootbox 3.2). I set the target path as /extSdCard/Titanium Backup in Preferences for it to work.
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As far as I know the "external_sd" is your removable external SD card. For some inexplicable reason it mounts as a sub-directory from the internal SD card, but it is definitely your removable external SD card.
I have a feeling that Jellybean brings a change and the external SD card mounts in a different way to ICS. I had only a brief experience of this when I played with the leaked ROM but I have reverted to ICS because of battery drain problems.
Your internal memory is partitioned with about 500MB for the system ROM, and 2GB reserved for app installations. Once this fills to around 85-90% you'll begin hitting problems with insufficient storage space errors. If you move apps to SD then this will make use of the data partition of your internal memory (about 12GB available to user on a 16GB device).
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So i should move my apps from the App reserved partition to the main storage partition? Or the external SD card? And how do i do that? Sorry for noob questions, i am not too much into how Android works
I don't think you can move apps to external SD card.
Go to settings -> applications and you'll see your apps listed with information about their size. Select one, and you should see a button "Move to SD card". If this is greyed out then the app doesn't support operation from the SD card, but for many you can press the button and it will move the app for you.
The interface in settings isn't the best - I use ZDBox which is a free utility tool available from the Play Store with several useful functions, including an improved "App to SD" UI which makes it easier to see what is going on.
Be careful with widget apps and others that interact with OS functionality as these often don't play happy if moved to SD card.
in your internal memory there is a folder call externel_sd ok leave it coz you still in your internal memory and go search your external sd card memory it named extSdCard or emmc
Also, when i open the Storage (i think that's what it's called) section in the settings on CM10, and noticed that i have 2 Internal Storage sections, one of them has only App data, and the other has photos, apps, music etc. and a SD Card section, with 6.64GB storage left. Does anyone know why is there is 2 Internal Storage sections?
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1st internal is /data, 2nd internal is /storage/sdcard0 (your internal 11GB memory).
My phone with Android O has an unfortunate partition table atm - large internal storage, small internal "sd" storage.
To my surprise, many apps insist to put their data on the sd parition like offline maps or email storage. So atm, half my internal storage is empty, and my sd is full :-\
All tools I have found move data/apps from the internal storage to the (external) sd card (apps2sd, link2sd, appmgr), and anything I have tried (Directory Bind, Folder Mount) aren't successful move-linking the "Android" folder on the sd to the internal storage. Moving and symlinking with the shell doesn't work either.
Question: Is there any app/way to make apps use the internal storage instread of the internal sd card (if they offer no config option)? Thanks!
.. Answering my own question:
After another day of fooling around I discovered that apps2sd "Folder Mount" tool can be mis-used to link external to internal with the "bind" option, even though it insists with a warning screen that this very thing shouldn't be done