ROMS for N7000 on I7I7?? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

Do the roms that are built for the N7000 work for the SAMSUNG-SGH-I717?? I only ask because...
1.) The I7I7 has only one ROM available and its not ICS where as the N7000 has several ROMs available.
2.) I know its possible because I run Desire HD roms on my HTC Inspire.
Thanks for all the help guys.
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why dont you give it a try and see if they work?

Sorry no the n7000 has a different SoC than the i717 trying to put one of those roms on this phone = brick.
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1tontomato said:
Sorry no the n7000 has a different SoC than the i717 trying to put one of those roms on this phone = brick.
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Is there any other ROM that is available for the I7I7 than Saurom? Or is development still really early?
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saurom is a great rom. I've had no issues with it. and my phones super quick and looks sexy. but its still too early right now. I'm sure in the coming months well see some new ones though

Development is just starting
CHILL!!!!!!!!!
I am so tired of these threads asking why only one rom or where are all the developers.
They have jobs and lives outside of xda and do mods in their spare time. Plus this phone is only a month old
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kevinjgray88 said:
Development is just starting
CHILL!!!!!!!!!
I am so tired of these threads asking why only one rom or where are all the developers.
They have jobs and lives outside of xda and do mods in their spare time. Plus this phone is only a month old
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I'm not demanding ROMs dude, I'm simply asking. I didn't seen any threads asking my specific question so I figure I'd ask. I understand they have lives, I'm just curious as to what's going on. No need for an abnormal use of exclamation points.
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imromulus said:
Do the roms that are built for the N7000 work for the SAMSUNG-SGH-I717?? I only ask because...
1.) The I7I7 has only one ROM available and its not ICS where as the N7000 has several ROMs available.
2.) I know its possible because I run Desire HD roms on my HTC Inspire.
Thanks for all the help guys.
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Apples and oranges. The Desire HD and Inspire 4G are basically the same phone. The hardware is the same except for some minor differences with the sound hardware. The international Note and ATT Note are completely different phones. The only thing they have in common is the size, screen, pen and they have similar cases. That's it. Everything else is different.

kevinjgray88 said:
Development is just starting
CHILL!!!!!!!!!
I am so tired of these threads asking why only one rom or where are all the developers.
They have jobs and lives outside of xda and do mods in their spare time. Plus this phone is only a month old
Sent from the only smartphone designed by Chuck Norris
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sounds like you need to chill it was an honest question...
Don't flash unless you want to brick your phone.
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You guys are right I'm sorry just having a bad day.
I actually did try to flash a rom for an international note and it would not flash just kept getting an error
Again to the op sorry, here is my piece offering :beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:
A 12 pack
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Best advice is found in post #3
Underground_XI said:
why dont you give it a try and see if they work?
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Absolutely questionable response and uncalled for...even suggesting that isnt humorous and maybe you should be concerned as to what people will perceive about you. Im just about sick and tired of all the rudeness and blatant self rightgeousness on these forums, members need to show some self-respect by not being rude. This forum has some NEW RULES as the base subscriber is no longer DEVELOPMENT ONLY the majority of us are not developers...they have their own section for each device to which noobs are restricted and should be, so giving people and noobs a hard time for something posted in the GENERAL and Q&A sections is ridiculous, so maybe show a little restraint if you choose not to help and just move on without posting anything!
Listen, I know a lot of noobs and others make mistakes and dont follow the rules but why jump on them outside of the DEV's threads? If you do as a senior or junior member then you also are breaking the rules!
NEW Forum & Marketplace Rules;
2.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
2.5 Courtesy towards other Members: Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can and always with respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.

erad1 said:
Best advice is found in post #3
Absolutely questionable response and uncalled for...even suggesting that isnt humorous and maybe you should be concerned as to what people will perceive about you. Im just about sick and tired of all the rudeness and blatant self rightgeousness on these forums, members need to show some self-respect by not being rude. This forum has some NEW RULES as the base subscriber is no longer DEVELOPMENT ONLY the majority of us are not developers...they have their own section for each device to which noobs are restricted and should be, so giving people and noobs a hard time for something posted in the GENERAL and Q&A sections is ridiculous, so maybe show a little restraint if you choose not to help and just move on without posting anything!
Listen, I know a lot of noobs and others make mistakes and dont follow the rules but why jump on them outside of the DEV's threads? If you do as a senior or junior member then you also are breaking the rules!
NEW Forum & Marketplace Rules;
2.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
2.5 Courtesy towards other Members: Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can and always with respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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Very well said. Everyone here should read your post and then read it again.
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im using a rom by one of my favorite devs... its coming.... and development on this device is young... took my previous phone the skyrocket a good 3 months to pump development out
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I keep meaning to make a cwm flash version of his rom...has anyone done that yet...
kornklown69 said:
im using a rom by one of my favorite devs... its coming.... and development on this device is young... took my previous phone the skyrocket a good 3 months to pump development out
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00mred00 said:
I keep meaning to make a cwm flash version of his rom...has anyone done that yet...
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whose lol pm me
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erad1 said:
Best advice is found in post #3
Absolutely questionable response and uncalled for...even suggesting that isnt humorous and maybe you should be concerned as to what people will perceive about you. Im just about sick and tired of all the rudeness and blatant self rightgeousness on these forums, members need to show some self-respect by not being rude. This forum has some NEW RULES as the base subscriber is no longer DEVELOPMENT ONLY the majority of us are not developers...they have their own section for each device to which noobs are restricted and should be, so giving people and noobs a hard time for something posted in the GENERAL and Q&A sections is ridiculous, so maybe show a little restraint if you choose not to help and just move on without posting anything!
Listen, I know a lot of noobs and others make mistakes and dont follow the rules but why jump on them outside of the DEV's threads? If you do as a senior or junior member then you also are breaking the rules!
NEW Forum & Marketplace Rules;
2.3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
2.5 Courtesy towards other Members: Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can and always with respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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It also says USE THE SEARCH BUTTON because what you are asking might have been mentioned 100 times + the fact that there are two different forums for these 2 phones should tell one that these phones ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT!

Underground_XI said:
It also says USE THE SEARCH BUTTON because what you are asking might have been mentioned 100 times + the fact that there are two different forums for these 2 phones should tell one that these phones ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT!
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I did search but was unlucky upon finding something. There are 2 forums for the Desire HD and for the HTC Inspire but the Inspire can ROM Desire HD ROMS so I wasn't sure. Better to ask than ruin a brand new 300 dollar phone....
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Tpc...i dunno i assumed you were talking about him.
How you liking the note!
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samsung galaxy note i717 is not turning off after installing saurom rom
Hi all....my samsung galaxy note i717 is not turning off after i installed saurom rom but it is quite stable....anybody else experiencing the same problem

^^^
Think you have to uncheck "confirm shutdown" in deluxe settings... I believe I've read that somewhere.
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[FAQ]Moderator needs to reconsider.

Hi Moderator,
Don't take me otherwise. While I am surfing this forum, I can see hell lots of stupid things floating around. Some Rom threads are filing with stupid personal arguments. Lots of threads need to be close as thread's purpose has resolved. If you want I can point it out for you. we know you are doing your job and believe me you are good at it. What I request you is do some initiative to avoid these silly stuffs.
Senior Members,
it's kinda hard to maintain a forum for anyone. As our device a budget phone yet powerful, so we are having hell lots of user and their queries. So
Urge you please give some suggestions so that we can avoid spaming, can also be beneficial for new and senior members.
Aside to new users,
Guys keep your queries thread specific.
Thank you
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+1 man. There should be an all in one frequent asked question sticky thread. Most users of the O1 are first time rooters so I don't blame them as much because I had my share of questions.
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If the devs could moderate at least their own threads, it would be a different story altogether. Those ROM/kernel threads could be shrinked 80% in size and only useful stuff left.
(Still would not solve the useless junk elsewhere but one could ignore it.)
Dear moderator, could you kindly go through the major development threads (current ROMs, franco kernel) and wipe all the bloody noise outta there.
I will not use a report post function because about every second post is off-topic n00b crap that plain does not belong there, so your PM inbox would get full soon. Not to mention that apparently noone cares about the crippled "report post" function that was discussed in xda-general.
This forum is becoming seriously harmed by useless noise. Some action, please!!!
doktornotor said:
Dear moderator, could you kindly go through the major development threads (current ROMs, franco kernel) and wipe all the bloody noise outta there.
I will not use a report post function because about every second post is off-topic n00b crap that plain does not belong there, so your PM inbox would get full soon. Not to mention that apparently noone cares about the crippled "report post" function that was discussed in xda-general.
This forum is becoming seriously harmed by useless noise. Some action, please!!!
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I will vote for this..it's true that new members are so curious to know new things. But they should understand what to ask and at-least where to ask.
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I have created a FAQ thread here. Please give your inputs
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sweetbinodray said:
Hi Moderator,
Don't take me otherwise. While I am surfing this forum, I can see hell lots of stupid things floating around. Some Rom threads are filing with stupid personal arguments. Lots of threads need to be close as thread's purpose has resolved. If you want I can point it out for you. we know you are doing your job and believe me you are good at it. What I request you is do some initiative to avoid these silly stuffs.
Senior Members,
it's kinda hard to maintain a forum for anyone. As our device a budget phone yet powerful, so we are having hell lots of user and their queries. So
Urge you please give some suggestions so that we can avoid spaming, can also be beneficial for new and senior members.
Aside to new users,
Guys keep your queries thread specific.
Thank you
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA Premium App
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+1 dude... the forum needs a nice and gud cleaning....
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Hey Sad Panda and flamers

Just wanted to say thank you for the support in my threads. It seems my thread stalker has serious issues. Unfortunately my thread was deleted before I got to read what you said, but I appreciate the backup. I hate to say it but the childish ones have turned this forum into flame heaven. A few developers have already left as well as several members. I swear the average owner of this phone must be 12 years old or just have no friends.
This being the general section people can pretty much post what they want as there are posts about tablets and other things that have nothing to do with the 3d. That is the point of having a general section.
Anyway, I hate the fact my thread was closed as I wanted you guys to see the new note. It is truly an awesome device and although not everyone is interested in it, there were several people who were and sent me pm's.
Although I spend most of my time in the Note forums now I do check in here to see what is happening as I have gotten to know several of you guys and many of you have helped me out over the months.
I wish everyone could get along and the internet wrestling would stop. There are friends to be made here and people out to help.
Lets see how long this thread stays open before the flaming begins...........
Derek
sprintuser1977 said:
Lets see how long this thread stays open before the flaming begins...........
Derek
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+ 1 I'll give it 6 hours before mods lock it down
But seriously on the rest I'm going to have to agree that trolls and flamers seem to clutter up threads and kill the XDA usefulness
sprintuser1977 said:
Just wanted to say thank you for the support in my threads. It seems my thread stalker has serious issues. Unfortunately my thread was deleted before I got to read what you said, but I appreciate the backup. I hate to say it but the childish ones have turned this forum into flame heaven. A few developers have already left as well as several members. I swear the average owner of this phone must be 12 years old or just have no friends.
This being the general section people can pretty much post what they want as there are posts about tablets and other things that have nothing to do with the 3d. That is the point of having a general section.
Anyway, I hate the fact my thread was closed as I wanted you guys to see the new note. It is truly an awesome device and although not everyone is interested in it, there were several people who were and sent me pm's.
Although I spend most of my time in the Note forums now I do check in here to see what is happening as I have gotten to know several of you guys and many of you have helped me out over the months.
I wish everyone could get along and the internet wrestling would stop. There are friends to be made here and people out to help.
Lets see how long this thread stays open before the flaming begins...........
Derek
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Not to be rude but I think if people wanted to see it they could easilly Google it. Or better yet go somewhere and see it in person. Just saying.
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swaze said:
Not to be rude but I think if people wanted to see it they could easilly Google it. Or better yet go somewhere and see it in person. Just saying.
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But, like me, some people want a real world opinion not some tech site review
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True and just like you said they pm'd you with questions u could easily pm them back instead of starting a thread. Just saying though. Less flaming that way I would think.
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I appreciate this thread and would like some pics..and I don't want to PM you to see em..
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My two cents:
You get flamed so much because you do stupid things like this that clog up the forums..
It's never 'everyone else's fault'.
Just sayin...
Can anyone please explain the significance of this thread..?
joehunni said:
Can anyone please explain the significance of this thread..?
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Within the last couple months, OP decided that the best way to fight flamers was to open
pointless threads complaining about them and asking them to attack.
What we have here, is yet another invitation.
Nothing else...
Am I late to the party?
Not thread stalking you, just trying to keep the EVO 3D section to relevant posts that help the community. Coming in and starting a thread pretty much bragging that you got a new phone does nothing for the community. And then starting a new thread complaining about it when it gets deleted, what else is there to say? I can't even count how many threads of yours got deleted or moved because of my statement above. I am sorry that you think that I thread stalk you, but man, you make it soooooooooo easy.
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tgruendler said:
Am I late to the party?
Not thread stalking you, just trying to keep the EVO 3D section to relevant posts that help the community. Coming in and starting a thread pretty much bragging that you got a new phone does nothing for the community. And then starting a new thread complaining about it when it gets deleted, what else is there to say? I can't even count how many threads of yours got deleted or moved because of my statement above. I am sorry that you think that I thread stalk you, but man, you make it soooooooooo easy.
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Well look who it is, the loser thread stalker asshat . And for the smart ones who talk about clogging up the forum I guess the threads about what tablets to get, what ROM is the best or the ones about other phones comparing to the 3d are ok, right? You morons make no sense nor do your arguments. like I told panda, the average age of owners of the 3d is like 12 especially since your points have no logic nor do they make sense. The best thing is you continue to prove my point with your ignorant posts
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BrianBaker said:
I appreciate this thread and would like some pics..and I don't want to PM you to see em..
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I would love to but apparently according to the "smart" people, that is considered bragging and pointless. They are the ones who contribute the most here. Just check out tgnumnuts profile and how much he has done. He's too busy jacking off to my threads
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Bamba1260 said:
My two cents:
You get flamed so much because you do stupid things like this that clog up the forums..
It's never 'everyone else's fault'.
Just sayin...
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Like this oh great one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20387309
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sprintuser1977 said:
I would love to but apparently according to the "smart" people, that is considered bragging and pointless. They are the ones who contribute the most here. Just check out tgnumnuts profile and how much he has done. He's too busy jacking off to my threads
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Or, look at my posts and see that helpful, productive members of the community also do not condone these types of threads. There is a standard that should be upheld here by all of XDA
members.
General section is for general threads ABOUT the evo 3D. That is why it is the Evo 3D general section.
This position that you have that "everyone should like what I have to say", or "what I say is better then <insert anything>" is childish.
You are why this place is going downhill, not because of the people who have gown impatient with your frivolous threads, posts, etc...
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sprintuser1977 said:
Like this oh great one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20387309
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As you have pointed out, you are not the only one doing it.
However, I am not going to get in to an argument over something on a forum on the internet.
Please, like you said you were doing in the thread we got closed, just go play with your Note and leave us alone.
Bamba1260 said:
Or, look at my posts and see that helpful, productive members of the community also do not condone these types of threads. There is a standard that should be upheld here by all of XDA
members.
General section is for general threads ABOUT the evo 3D. That is why it is the Evo 3D general section.
This position that you have that "everyone should like what I have to say", or "what I say is better then <insert anything>" is childish.
You are why this place is going downhill, not because of the people who have gown impatient with your frivolous threads, posts, etc...
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As you have pointed out, you are not the only one doing it.
However, I am not going to get in to an argument over something on a forum on the internet.
Please, like you said you were doing in the thread we got closed, just go play with your Note and leave us alone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16642092
What's that there? Oh yea a great thread you made that was locked and as the Scotsman said, not your first one. Foot in mouth?
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sprintuser1977 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16642092
What's that there? Oh yea a great thread you made that was locked and as the Scotsman said, not your first one. Foot in mouth?
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Lmao, ask around, I bet people loved that thread. It was quite great. Unfortunately, I didn't take the time to see if there was already a similar thread, hence it was closed.
So, good job, you cite a thread that was to help the members of the community....
Also, that just goes to show, that in fact, you Sir, are the 12 year old girl. Maybe 13, but meh, the exactness is moot.
What satisfaction do you get from the constant barrage of XDA? Does it make you feel special to 'win' arguments,
over the internet, with people you have never met, and likely never will?
Did you not get enough love as a child? Are you picking obnoxious fights with strangers to somehow fill that gap?
Or possibly, did you get too much love? Did someone make you feel too special, to the point where you thought you mattered?
Either way, it is old, it is annoying, and everyone would appreciate if you handed daddy back his computer
Oh for goodness sake. Can we stop with the childish petty arguing.
Is it really a surprise to you that these threads keep getting closed?
Take it to PM and sort out the issue. Don't start yet another crappy thread.

a better app than TapaTalk?

I know there are a lot of talented and knowledgeable people in this forum. Won't somebody please make a better app than TapaTalk? The search function in this app is awful. Search a subject and the every post where the subject is somewhere hidden, comes up. Why did I pay for an app that I have to resort to Google's search engine to do a better job than the app for it's supported forums?
Surely some talented dev, wants to make some serious money?? How often do they update this app anyway?? How many of you guys and gals, do this for free and are constantly working on improving and updating your work?
This app is prime for a take down! The best thing about this app is that makes the forum easier to read on mobile devices. Heck, small businesses get local developers to make a site that will work on smaller screens?
How many thousands of people use this app? I personally don't know anything about the technical side. I do have a good ear for business and I'm hearing ching, ching.
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I agree. I don't like the way handles photo attachments.
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Thread moved to Q&A due to it being a question. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
orb3000 said:
Thread moved to Q&A due to it being a question. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
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You guys are so tough. I thought I was posting in the right section. I was not asking a question, expecting an answer. My intention was to get the attention of people who are experienced app developers. This was directed for someone who is scratching their head wondering, how can I make some serious money, Koush style!
I was sure, I wouldn't be the only one who felt the same about TapaTalk. That app practically has a monopoly of these forums. Having other people either support or disagree, might give developers an idea, if it's worth their time. I thought the Q & A, was for helping out or asking questions.
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities. Quite frankly, I think the your threat of banning is harsh. (Sigh!) You might ban me yet!
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justifi said:
You guys are so tough. I thought I was posting in the right section. I was not asking a question, expecting an answer. My intention was to get the attention of people who are experienced app developers. This was directed for someone who is scratching their head wondering, how can I make some serious money, Koush style!
I was sure, I wouldn't be the only one who felt the same about TapaTalk. That app practically has a monopoly of these forums. Having other people either support or disagree, might give developers an idea, if it's worth their time. I thought the Q & A, was for helping out or asking questions.
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities. Quite frankly, I think the your threat of banning is harsh. (Sigh!) You might ban me yet!
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OMG, the first rule is search before posting. That's the whole point of trying to get a developer to create a forum tool with a more effective search function! That's it you got me! I'll ban myself from posting here. You all are just too important!
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justifi said:
You guys are so tough. I thought I was posting in the right section. I was not asking a question, expecting an answer. My intention was to get the attention of people who are experienced app developers. This was directed for someone who is scratching their head wondering, how can I make some serious money, Koush style!
I was sure, I wouldn't be the only one who felt the same about TapaTalk. That app practically has a monopoly of these forums. Having other people either support or disagree, might give developers an idea, if it's worth their time. I thought the Q & A, was for helping out or asking questions.
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities. Quite frankly, I think the your threat of banning is harsh. (Sigh!) You might ban me yet!
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You are in the wrong place. Developers here are not here to make money. They are here because they love what they do. Second tapatalk is not a bad app. I use forum runner myself. An app doest need to keep being updated. If it works then why update it?
Yes we are tough. This is the worlds leading DEVELOPMENT forum. Not the user forum alot of people think it is.
Awww...Justifi, you are only allowed to break the rules if you are regular or a mod. You should read the fine print on the back of the 3rd page on the rules. Everyone knows that developers that do all they can to break code and contact rules abide by the rules they make with a 2 strike your out mentality.
It's ok...next time you waiver they will fluff themselves up and give you an infraction, he might even explain why in a non robotic voice.
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zelendel said:
You are in the wrong place. Developers here are not here to make money. They are here because they love what they do. Second tapatalk is not a bad app. I use forum runner myself. An app doest need to keep being updated. If it works then why update it?
Yes we are tough. This is the worlds leading DEVELOPMENT forum. Not the user forum alot of people think it is.
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And...not so much any more.
back on topic..
he is right..
Tapatalk search function sucks..
we give newies a hard time for posting the same question time and time again
in a rom yet..tapatalk is one of the prime tools used to access these same forums..
the XDA app has been crap for ages.. so I havent looked back at it.. maybe I need to..
But Search and Tapatalk before you post a question.. null and void..
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I agree D...and if there are other threads with the same topic the mods should close it and not flame it.
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You are in the wrong place. Developers here are not here to make money.
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I prob get a kick for this..
But how wrong is this quote..
There numerous developers of apps spamming across threads to
get their apps used so people will pay for them..
Try going in and bagging them for it and see how quick they flame you..
True most of the rom developers, themers do it for love..
But jezz to step up to the mark with this one has go it to take the cake..
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dgcruzing said:
I prob get a kick for this..
But how wrong is this quote..
There numerous developers of apps spamming across threads to
get their apps used so people will pay for them..
Try going in and bagging them for it and see how quick they flame you..
True most of the rom developers, themers do it for love..
But jezz to step up to the mark with this one has go it to take the cake..
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Ever notice the apps here are for free.
We have stated over and over again. If you are here to make.money then you are in the wrong place.
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Ever notice the apps here are for free.
We have stated over and over again. If you are here to make.money then you are in the wrong place.
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Zelendel, you have been around for a while..so we both know there are a lot of great minds at work on here ..
not driven by any dallor value..Not debateable..
But the facts of this thread is to open debate that maybe' just maybe...
the main mobile forum readers used at present are not as good as they are cracked to be.
tapatalk and even the xda website search functions are not well designed..
They both lead to complancy by posters both mobile and online..
And there is room for improvement..
If this comes from a $$$ driven developer then so be it.. if he had restated it as a bounty..(monetary incentive) I am sure you wouldn't take offence to this
Back to topic, As an example of a good search function on a forum site is on
Hotcopper.com.au,
its a stock site but the accuracy and narrow searches allowed make it a breeze to find current and past posts on topic, stocks, or posters
This should be compared to what is available on xda to see if there could be improvements made..
Also xda could ask the tapatalk developers ever so nicely to look into beefing up their search function..
As you have suggested one to use, I should have a look at it..
I like the mikmik forum reader but as its just linked into theirs at the moment I don't know if they bigger plans for it..
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justifi said:
I was doing neither. I was stating a need in a question format to engage a developer to think of the possibilities.
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It could have been a nice discussion, Justifi.
zelendel said:
Yes we are tough. This is the worlds leading DEVELOPMENT forum. Not the user forum alot of people think it is.
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And yet....without users...where would you be?!
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Awww...Justifi, you are only allowed to break the rules if you are regular or a mod. You should read the fine print on the back of the 3rd page on the rules.
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Thanks Buddy for your they-probably-won't -admit-it-but-its-true comment. This is why I don't post here.
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It could have been a nice discussion, Justifi.
And yet....without users...where would you be?!
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The same place we were when it was mostly developers on this site. Remember that XDA has been around long before most users even knew what a smartphone was.
As for the bounty. XDA doesnt like bounty threads.
Check my Sig "noobs best friend" for a search plug in for FF or IE browsers.
As for my comment about being here for the money. This is one of the biggest problems as of late. XDA was made to share info and to help others to learn to do things on their own. As of late too many people are trying to make money using XDA. This is not what we are here for nor is it allowed.
There are plenty of how tos floating around and if the current Forum apps dont do what you want then by all means dig in and learn and make one up. Not only will it be a great learning tool. But you may find that it is fun and become a famous developer. This is what we are here for.
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The same place we were when it was mostly developers on this site. Remember that XDA has been around long before most users even knew what a smartphone was.
As for the bounty. XDA doesnt like bounty threads.
Check my Sig "noobs best friend" for a search plug in for FF or IE browsers.
As for my comment about being here for the money. This is one of the biggest problems as of late. XDA was made to share info and to help others to learn to do things on their own. As of late too many people are trying to make money using XDA. This is not what we are here for nor is it allowed.
There are plenty of how tos floating around and if the current Forum apps dont do what you want then by all means dig in and learn and make one up. Not only will it be a great learning tool. But you may find that it is fun and become a famous developer. This is what we are here for.
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I don't think there is anything wrong with making money from what you love to do. Most people strive for that. I wasn't suggesting that someone open up shop in XDA. We all have to learn from somewhere.
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There are plenty of how tos floating around and if the current Forum apps dont do what you want then by all means dig in and learn and make one up. Not only will it be a great learning tool. But you may find that it is fun and become a famous developer. This is what we are here for.
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I gotta admit z, if I only read up to your first post, I would have had a whole different take on your comments then from this last post.
I have been trying make my own themes, mods and even write some apps. As a n00b to those areas, it is hard to find information at times, and this site *does* help with that. However, I would consider myself not a developer - far from it, but rather just a user. So this site *is* for users too, as they use what others have posted to possibly become devs/themers themselves someday. This site can really be a sort of school for those interested.
So I'm glad you clarified the earlier remark.
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I gotta admit z, if I only read up to your first post, I would have had a whole different take on your comments then from this last post.
I have been trying make my own themes, mods and even write some apps. As a n00b to those areas, it is hard to find information at times, and this site *does* help with that. However, I would consider myself not a developer - far from it, but rather just a user. So this site *is* for users too, as they use what others have posted to possibly become devs/themers themselves someday. This site can really be a sort of school for those interested.
So I'm glad you clarified the earlier remark.
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Yeah I can seem to come across a bit harsh at times. I dont mean to be. IT is just soo many people come to XDA wanting to be spoon fed and that is not what we are here for. We are here to help people learn and to become developers themselfs. That is what a developers site is. A great place to learn.
So again sorry if I seem a bit harsh at times.
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Yeah I can seem to come across a bit harsh at times. I dont mean to be. IT is just soo many people come to XDA wanting to be spoon fed and that is not what we are here for. We are here to help people learn and to become developers themselfs. That is what a developers site is. A great place to learn.
So again sorry if I seem a bit harsh at times.
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For those that go deeper and deeper into things...XDA is great..
This age of computing so far has allowed a break away from the locked in
Software systems that we were forced into since really MS took over DOS with windows front ends
I won't even go into apple o/s speak..
Openware/shareware as the apps market now could be termed allows for us the end users direct input
With the developers to push for better products..thus XDA is the medium that brings the two together..
Like it or not at the moment its the worlds premier focal point for this..
So I understand how the purists must be shaking their heads..
Sad but true a lot of talented developers are going back underground, to less known parts of the web to cook
So then it leaves XDA holding the front so to speak..
Its all good and a big thanks to the mods for keeping it semi under control..
Its a jungle out there...
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Fish, "Z", and "Dg",
I agree with all of your most recent post. Now that, I've cooled off a bit :thumbup:. It's also known that techies as whole are not famous for great people skills. This forum is and should be a great place to learn. For the sake of encouraging more people to try to become developers or better developers, XDA could practice a "firm" tolerance. The default attitude should be to guide people to where they need to be, without flaming or threats of banishment right out the gate. IMO, it doesn't feel like that. To make mistakes is part of the learning process.
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orb3000 said:
Thread moved to Q&A due to it being a question. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
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Fish, "Z", and "Dg",
It's also known that techies as whole are not famous for great people skills. This forum is and should be a great place to learn. For the sake of encouraging more people to try to become developers or better developers, XDA could practice a "firm" tolerance. The default attitude should be to guide people to where they need to be, without flaming or threats of banishment right out the gate. IMO, it doesn't feel like that. To make mistakes is part of the learning process.
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+1 Justifi

Should there be a Noob Q&A?

Being a bit of a newb myself. I wondered if anyone agrees that there should be at separate Q&A for noob (novice) questions only.
Therefore more experienced users can filter out stupid questions that even I think is ridiculous. Leaving the Q&A for real problems, rather than simple and stupid questions like "how do I flash a new modem" etc. I propose this idea in all platforms and models.
I felt as a true noob, some time ago that people are very quick to snap at noobs. Leaving them feeling like quitting and giving up. As a community member I feel this is an issue. Having a Q&A for noobs I hope would not leave noob questions unanswered.. just only given advice from willing and helpful members. Leaving experienced or dare I say selfish user the freedom they desire, and the noobs that extra bit of support.
After all, this is a community and we are "supposed" to be helpful. And we all started without any knowledge atall. I am eager to hear your responses.. both noobs and pro devs.
What are your thoughts on this?
Thank me if you agree or better still, post your thoughts. Thanks for your patience in reading my rant
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Or an FAQ thread?
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I don't think it's in the intrests of XDA to segregate people, and brand them as "noobs" just because they are new. I've seen alot of new users learn very quickly and become very respected developers
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AndroHero said:
I don't think it's in the intrests of XDA to segregate people, and brand them as "noobs" just because they are new. I've seen alot of new users learn very quickly and become very respected developers
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To be honest most ppl brand themselves as noobs. I feel I am learning very quickly, currently learning java. Some people just don't have the patience. Can't be bothered to search. As I have learnt in my experiences that you have to be very patient and start all over again often. As for people who don't search.. that's just pure laziness. Ah well the strong will prevail..
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instead we can create a thread to educate people...like in the title they can include a tag like [noob question]
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instead we can create a thread to educate people...like in the title they can include a tag like [noob question]
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Not a bad idea. But would they follow? Being noob i guess not. Seeing as mosst dont look at the stickies for rules etc
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There's a difference between being "noob friendly" and catering to the minority of what is already a minority. Let's not forget XDA's origins as a DEVELOPER site. The directions provided by devs are almost always complete enough that anyone willing to put in 5 minutes worth of effort to use the search button is able to figure it out.
063_XOBX said:
There's a difference between being "noob friendly" and catering to the minority of what is already a minority. Let's not forget XDA's origins as a DEVELOPER site. The directions provided by devs are almost always complete enough that anyone willing to put in 5 minutes worth of effort to use the search button is able to figure it out.
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I agree that we shouldnt be spoon feeding people. I have gathered knowledge in android and developing massivly over the past few weeks. And i have xda to thanks. Already a senior member and learnt so much more than what i could have ever imagined.
Android is the future! And xda is playing a big part in molding its future. So a massive thumbs up!
I did however encounter some very rude members how could have easily directed me to the rules sticky. We do not need noob Q&A. We jus need to give polite gentle nudges in the right direction, if they are just plain lazy...
Throw em in with the pack of bitter xda "originals" for all i care. as they are branding xda as a "fix my fone" forum. Not as what i hear it was back in the day..
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Flex360?

So anyone know what happened to flex? his thread is closed, and he had a great rom just wish someone knew what happened
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I done know... There is always something going on... I wish it would stop because his roms are the shiznit.
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Yeah.. I feel lately that xda has banned or scared off more developers than it has actually gained...
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waste of space
childish
Seems a bit childish when they decide to ban a dev they just close their threads. His stock w goodies had 899 posts so there must me plenty of members using that Rom. Members that visit this site. Without members and visitors they wouldn't be generating all the ad revenue.
Without the devs and development does xda have "anything" to attract visitors?
On the comment "xda has scared off more developement than it has gained",+1 couldnt agree more. seems to be alot of the bro deal buddie buddie s#!t going on and it kinda makes things suck. Especially for devs like flex360. I seen in a post title "if your a user just looking for a cool rom go away" well as a user ill remember that crap. And wont use it even when it is released, or any of the other crap he puts out. XDA is supposed to be about shareing knowledge and helping others obtain it. And Shareing what you have developed with the community. Not for the "this is mine and you cant have it" frame of mind. Seems that things have gotten turned around somehow at xda, and the ones who deserve to be reprimanded are being rewarded, and the ones like flex360 and others i wont mention who deserve recognition or reward are being punished. Whos next, OMJ or bigdaddy for helping and contributing too much.(just a couple names off the top who have helped me greatly in the past along with many others) At any rate, we dont know what happend with flex and maybe never will, as long as he knows theres a great many of us who are bebind him 100% and will support him in any way we can for his contributions to us. We're here for ya flex. :endrant:
*Information IS the most dangerous weapon of all*
If u read the sense 5 thread, you can see what happened, (690ish post) flex ported something to sense 5, and shared it, and didn't give credit to original mod, until a little while later. Not really sure why they locked his rom post as people may still have discussions regarding the rom.
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If u read the sense 5 thread, you can see what happened, (690ish post) flex ported something to sense 5, and shared it, and didn't give credit to original mod, until a little while later. Not really sure why they locked his rom post as people may still have discussions regarding the rom.
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Also seemed like all was cool with everyone afterwards so that can't be the reason. They all made up and laughed it off.
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Flex just tweeted banned until may 29,
The thing I want to know why is he banned? How can they close a thread with 700k+ views? That's like lost ad revenue to them if those users say f it to xda, and if it was Over a little incident that got resolved that is unfair in all ways possible, but oh well we are user's and no one gives a @#$? About us.
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There's more to it then you or I or anyone can speculate. Its between flex and the mods, he more then likely understands it and hes not complaining...if you have questions, contact a mod, if you value flex privacy, then leave it alone, let this be handled by flex, the site admins and the mods.
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Firstly hi.
Secondly, I'm not the mod who banned flex however I can speak to why the thread was closed. It was closed due to him not being able to support it while he is banned. Same thing happened the last time he was banned.
To the scaring off developers, give me a break. I work the website as a whole and there isn't a mass exodus of great devs. If people don't abide by the rules dev or no dev they meet with consequences. Everything is taken into account before bans happen user history post history.
As for the dev thread mentioned with the title saying users don't come. I changed that thread title because users were getting upset at devs getting upset at users posting in it. The devs aren't keeping it to themselves, it's a development thread. Purely not meant for users. Like someone said this XDA developers. It's in the original dev section, yet users who have nothing to so with the project despite being told otherwise continued to post. It was stated that the sense 5 port wasn't ready for mass consumption when it is you will see a bunch of stuff about it.
Now everyone go on about your day and spend time with your family. Put your phone down for a while, step away from your keyboard.
Thanks.

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